Re: Non-responsive maintainer check for hguemar

2022-08-08 Thread Haïkel
Hi, send me your FAS account and I'll transfer ownership to you of pyperclip. You're welcome to contact me directly through email (I'm currently in sick leave but I'll browse email from time to time). Regards, H. ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Fwd: Orphaning some packages (C++/Gtkmm)

2021-02-10 Thread Haïkel
Le mer. 10 févr. 2021 à 18:10, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek a écrit : > > Hi, > > In case you didn't see bcotton's mail about pp status, please do. > > Zbyszek I did, it helped deciding to actively reduce the scope. Regards, H. ___ devel mailing list

Fwd: Orphaning some packages (C++/Gtkmm)

2021-02-10 Thread Haïkel
Hello, due to long-standing health issues, I'd like to focus on a smaller set of packages and continue mentoring new packagers which helped me to stay afloat during grim times. Here's a list of packages that have no co-maintainers and are required for other projects. - cairomm - gconfmm26 -

Re: 15 nonresponsive maintainers

2019-07-26 Thread Haïkel
I'm still around, I had a kidney failure recently hence not able to answer. Regards. H. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Possibly non-responsive maintainer: hguemar

2018-09-17 Thread Haïkel
Le lun. 17 sept. 2018 à 08:12, Mattia Verga a écrit : > > > Le dim. 16 sept. 2018 à 11:27, Fabio Valentini > a écrit : > > > > > > The policy mention that you have to try contacting the maintainer > > *first*, you never sent me an email or pinged me on irc. > > I don't like this kind of

Re: Possibly non-responsive maintainer: hguemar

2018-09-16 Thread Haïkel
.cgi?id=1605479 Needs a co-maintainer > gtksourceviewmm3: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1604292 This one has co-maintainers and was actively attended by the desktop team. > glom: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1604130 > Co-maintainers are welcome, otherwise, I'll

Re: broken package needs attention: libgda

2018-06-11 Thread Haïkel
2018-06-10 22:46 GMT+02:00 Sérgio Basto : > On Sun, 2018-06-10 at 18:27 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The "libgda" package is quite broken in fedora, which is impacting >> dependent programs. >> >> - The last successful build of libgda was for the fedora 24 (!) mass >> rebuild. No

New SIG: OpenStack

2017-10-09 Thread Haïkel
Hi, I'd like to announce the beginning of a new SIG: OpenStack. During these last years, I've been more or less maintaining OpenStack clients, and I'd like to pass over that (burden) to a SIG. OpenStack clients/libraries are quite tied to each other, so it is difficult to maintain them without

Re: Complicated problem: kiwi and kiwi-gtk conflict

2017-08-23 Thread Haïkel
2017-08-23 14:44 GMT+02:00 Miroslav Suchý : > Dne 23.8.2017 v 11:40 Neal Gompa napsal(a): >> >> However, there's a problem. It seems python-kiwi already exists in >> Fedora[4], and it's the kiwi-gtk framework[5]. >> >> I'm not sure what to do in this scenario. I've requested

Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

2017-06-23 Thread Haïkel
2017-06-23 12:39 GMT+02:00 James Hogarth : > Hi, > > Has anyone heard from kanarip or able to contact him? > > I've been attempting to contact for this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1223593 > > If there's no response in one week an issue will be

Re: Retiring Packages with Broken Dependencies in branched (2017-06-12)

2017-06-13 Thread Haïkel
2017-06-13 0:38 GMT+02:00 : > In preparation for the Final Freeze on 2017-06-27 Release > Engineering will retire all packages in Branched with broken dependencies and > all packages depending on these. If you get this e-mail directly this affects > at least one of your

Re: Self Introduction: Stephen Kitt

2017-02-27 Thread Haïkel
2017-02-23 18:48 GMT+01:00 Stephen Kitt : > Hi everyone, > > As part of the "join the package collection maintainers" process, I'd like to > introduce myself — I've just submitted my first review request > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1426333). > > I'm a

Re: MongoDB in EPEL7

2016-10-31 Thread Haïkel
2016-10-31 14:25 GMT+01:00 Marek Skalický : > Hi, > current situation: > EPEL6 - MongoDB 2.4.x > EPEL7 - MongoDB 2.6.x > > Upstream supports only upgrade to next major version. So from 2.4 it is > supported only to 2.6. > Therefore I kept MongoDB 2.6 in EPEL7 (even two next

Re: Update python-django EPEL7

2016-08-16 Thread Haïkel
2016-08-16 19:11 GMT+02:00 Igor Gnatenko : > It's against policies. Currently python-django has version 1.6. And > 1.8 is major release. > Wrong. Django 1.8 is an Long-Term Support version (supported until April, 2018) while 1.6 support ended in April, 2015 (so one year

Re: FESCo - July 2016 Elections - Result announcement

2016-07-26 Thread Haïkel
2016-07-26 4:58 GMT+02:00 Jan Kurik : > Greetings, all! > > The elections for FESCo - July 2016 have concluded, and the results > are shown below. > > FESCo is electing 4 seats this time. > A total of 196 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate > could accumulate up to 980 votes

Re: Self introduction: Zygmunt Krynicki

2016-07-23 Thread Haïkel
2016-07-23 10:03 GMT+02:00 Zygmunt Krynicki : > Hello > > My name is Zygmunt (zyga) Krynicki. I’ve been using various distributions of > Linux for the past 15 years. I helped create the Linaro’s LAVA test system, > Ubuntu’s Checkbox hardware testing toolkit. Most recently I’m

Re: Snaps and Fedora

2016-07-22 Thread Haïkel
http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/contributors 2016-07-23 2:46 GMT+02:00 Neal Gompa : > Hello all, > > Over the course of this week, I've been involved in the first Snap > sprint focused on making the Snap system broadly useful and workable > across a wide variety of Linux

Re: LBNL BSD licence

2016-07-05 Thread Haïkel
2016-07-05 11:45 GMT+02:00 Dave Love : > I've realized that the licence for a package I've recently had reviewed > is actually "LBNL BSD" > , not BSD3 with a DoE > disclaimer, as I thought. (Mea culpa, but licensecheck

Re: Anyone know how to contact maintainer Salimma?

2016-06-30 Thread Haïkel
2016-06-30 4:59 GMT+02:00 Avram Lubkin : > > I've been trying to contact Salimma, Michel Alexandre Salim, for the last > month. I've been trying to update python-sphinx which hasn't had an update > since last fall. Worked through all of the issues, but maintainer hasn't >

Re: Packages seeking new Point Of Contact

2016-06-28 Thread Haïkel
2016-06-28 18:49 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi : > Greetings. > > Per: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1589 > > I have orphaned bjohnson's packages. > > Please do take point of contact for any of these you wish to help > maintain for the Fedora Project. > > rpms/conduit -- A

"Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2016-06-24)"

2016-06-24 Thread Haïkel
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2016-06-24) === Meeting started by number80 at 16:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-06-24/fesco.2016-06-24-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary

"Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-06-24)"

2016-06-24 Thread Haïkel
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2016-06-24 16:00 UTC' Links to all tickets below

Re: Self Introduction: Oliver Haessler

2016-06-14 Thread Haïkel
2016-06-14 16:45 GMT+02:00 Oliver Haessler : > Hi everyone, > > my name is Oliver and I am working for Red Hat in the internal IT department. > I am responsible for the internal RHEL desktop build we use for our employees. > I maintain extra config packages that we add to the

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: asaf

2016-05-30 Thread Haïkel
2016-05-30 12:55 GMT+02:00 gil <punto...@libero.it>: > > > Il 30/05/2016 12:09, Haïkel ha scritto: >> >> 2016-05-30 10:18 GMT+02:00 Mikolaj Izdebski <mizde...@redhat.com>: >>> >>> On 05/30/2016 10:01 AM, gil wrote: >>>> >>&

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: asaf

2016-05-30 Thread Haïkel
2016-05-30 10:18 GMT+02:00 Mikolaj Izdebski : > On 05/30/2016 10:01 AM, gil wrote: >> But until now I have not had any response from the maintainer, asaf >> (Asaf Shakarchi a...@redhat.com ) . > > This email address seems to be inactive. > Asaf left Red Hat now six years ago,

Re: Reserved GID for MongoDB

2016-05-18 Thread Haïkel
2016-05-18 21:39 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : > > > it's simple: apache (httpd) has gid/uid 48 likely before you did knew about > Fedora nad you can rely on that on every Fdora/RHEL/CentOS system out there > > *that* is consistent UID/GID > That is irrelevant to the current

Re: Reserved GID for MongoDB

2016-05-18 Thread Haïkel
2016-05-18 20:28 GMT+02:00 Florian Weimer <fwei...@redhat.com>: > On 05/18/2016 08:08 PM, Haïkel wrote: >> >> If you need to reserve statically id/gid, you're likely solving the >> wrong problem. > > > Static UIDs and GIDs are required for reproducible install

Re: Reserved GID for MongoDB

2016-05-18 Thread Haïkel
If you need to reserve statically id/gid, you're likely solving the wrong problem. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Attempting to contact unresponsive maintainer - ndipanov

2016-04-25 Thread Haïkel
2016-04-25 18:00 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi : > Greetings, we've been told that the email addresses > for this package maintainer is no longer valid. I'm starting the > unresponsive maintainer policy to find out if they are still interested > in maintaining their packages (and if so,

Re: Call for help contacting contributors

2016-03-31 Thread Haïkel
2016-03-31 0:51 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi : > On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:55:54 +0100 > Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Packagers, members of the fedorabugs group and people having a >> 'watchbugzilla' ACL in pkgdb must have a bugzilla account attached

Re: HEADS UP: systemd package split

2016-03-05 Thread Haïkel
2016-03-04 23:36 GMT+01:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : > Hi, > > I finally pushed the split of the systemd package to Rawhide and F24 today > [https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes/systemd_package_split]. > If you upgrade with dnf you should see something like

Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2016-03-04)

2016-03-04 Thread Haïkel
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2016-03-04) === Meeting started by number80 at 17:00:11 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-04/fesco.2016-03-04-17.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2016-03-04)

2016-03-04 Thread Haïkel
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2016-03-04 17:00 UTC' Links to all tickets below

Re: Large number of packages to be orphaned on Feb 26

2016-02-27 Thread Haïkel
I took zsh-lovers. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: update mercurial to 3.7.1 in rawhide and F24

2016-02-25 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-25 16:58 GMT+01:00 Neal Becker : > I'd like to update to latest mercurial. I built 3.7.1 in rawhide, and > AFAICT there's no problem using it with tortoisehg-3.7.1-fc24. > > I'd like to update mercurial in F24 - AFAIK there should not be any > compatibility issues. >

Re: CVE-2015-7547 fix for Fedora 21

2016-02-19 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-19 3:35 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kofler : > Hi, > > I have built an updated glibc package for Fedora 21, with (alleged) fixes > for the following security issues: > * CVE-2015-7547 (CRITICAL) > * CVE-2015-1781 > * CVE-2015-8777 > * glibc PR17269 > * glibc PR18032 >

Re: Fedora AMI build process

2016-02-16 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-16 15:02 GMT+01:00 Jon Kent : > Hi, > > I've been trying to see how we build Fedora AMIs but am starting having not > luck with finding documents on the buiild process. If someone could throw me > a link it would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > Jon > I suggest that

[EPEL-devel] Re: Redis update to 3.0.x branch

2016-02-08 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-08 16:56 GMT+01:00 Peter Robinson : > > Is there client side soname bumps which will need associated rebuilds > for anything that depends on it? redis does not provide any library or public API, clients use the wire protocol which remains compatible. No rebuilds

[EPEL-devel] Redis update to 3.0.x branch

2016-02-08 Thread Haïkel
Hi, EPEL7 currently ship Redis 2.8.x branch, but it will be EOLed soon after the 3.2.x branch will be released. I plan to update EPEL7 branch to 3.0.x, there's no specific action required from users for the migration. Regards, H. ___ epel-devel mailing

Re: Python packages not compliant to Fedora guidelines

2016-02-06 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-06 9:44 GMT+01:00 Germano Massullo : > In past days I filled many review requests for various python libraries, in > order to submit python-netdiff [1] and python-django-netjsongraph [2]. > During this process, I noticed that a lot of python packages are not >

Re: On packager motivation

2016-02-04 Thread Haïkel
2016-02-03 17:04 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Wakely : > On 03/02/16 08:44 -0700, Jerry James wrote: > >> 1. Demotivating packagers >> >> I know a number of companies have experimented with "ownership-free" >> models of code development, but they are able to offer incentives that

Re: How to fix a package name with wrong capitalization?

2016-01-16 Thread Haïkel
2016-01-16 16:10 GMT+01:00 Kevin Kofler : > Hi, > > in the following review: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285042 > a package was reviewed and approved under the name "kpmcore", which matches > how upstream calls its tarballs. However, the subject line

[EPEL-devel] Re: LibRaw is in EPEL testing and also in Base

2016-01-12 Thread Haïkel
2016-01-12 16:28 GMT+01:00 Johnny Hughes : > 'LibRaw-0.17.1-3.el7.x86_64 (epel-testing)' and > 'LibRaw-0.14.8-5.el7.20120830git98d925.x86_64 (@base/$releasever)' are > conflicting > Maybe it needs to be synced but it's not on the list of packages that should be shipped by EPEL.

Unresponsive maintainer procedure for nsjae

2016-01-11 Thread Haïkel
Hi, I'd like to start the unresponsive maintainer procedure for nsaje. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/nsaje/ Nec is a former Red Hat intern and Alan tried to contact him more than one month ago. He also requested package ACLs for python-kazoo without any answer.

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Suds Jurko Fork

2016-01-04 Thread Haïkel
2016-01-04 15:15 GMT+01:00 Josh Boyer : > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:01 AM, Jan Kurik wrote: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: Suds Jurko Fork = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Suds_Jurko_Fork >> >> Change owner(s): >> * Scott Talbert >> >>

Re: no systemd in containers: Requires -> Recommends

2015-12-17 Thread Haïkel
2015-12-18 0:58 GMT+01:00 Jason L Tibbitts III : >> "RWMJ" == Richard W M Jones writes: > > RWMJ> Couldn't it use inotify (or whatever we're using these days to > RWMJ> detect filesystem changes)? So when you drop in the unit file, > RWMJ> systemd

[EPEL-devel]Re: diskimage-builder in epel7

2015-12-08 Thread Haïkel
2015-12-08 16:04 GMT-05:00 Kevin Fenzi : > > They were included there by mistake when I was trying to fix another > issue. ;( > > Should be cleared up now... can you check again? > > kevin > No worries, and I just verified that the list contains no foreign repositories thanks to

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2015-12-02)

2015-12-02 Thread Haïkel
Due to a business travel, I'll be missing this week meeting. I'll make sure to review all the tickets though. Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Dealing with the "my packages" problem

2015-11-18 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-18 1:08 GMT+01:00 Jason L Tibbitts III : > tl; dr: I have submitted the following RFE for pkgdb: > https://github.com/fedora-infra/pkgdb2/issues/274 > Please add comments there if you have any. > > I know I'm not the only provenpackager to have applied a bugfix to >

Re: Guidelines unclear for unretire of a branch

2015-11-17 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-17 15:02 GMT+01:00 Richard Shaw : > I would like to unretire the epel7 branch of LibRaw, per the guidelines[1] > this woudl require a re-review, but that would only make sense if the whole > package was retired, not an epel branch. > > Why would we re-review something

Re: Quick proposal for making packager sponsorship slightly easier

2015-11-17 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-17 2:42 GMT+01:00 Jason L Tibbitts III : > I recently filed https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1499 with the > goal of making the process just a bit simpler for new packagers. The text of > my proposal follows. Please make sure that substantial comments are > made

Re: What's the current status of mp3-licensing issues?

2015-11-15 Thread Haïkel
Hi, You should have contacted fedora-legal list on that topic. Besides, determining when a patent expires is not that easy and Fedora Legal is backed by skilled lawyers that said the contrary. Unless Fedora Legal confirms your theory (which I doubt), it's useless to discuss this on this list.

Re: bodhi should strip subjects

2015-11-06 Thread Haïkel
Again, what you're saying makes sense but if you don't file tickets, it won't get fixed. Here's bodhi bug tracker. https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of

Re: systemd package bloat

2015-11-06 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-06 16:35 GMT+01:00 Reindl Harald : > it's one thing that there is a common tarball containing everything, but 26 > MB, 821 files including /usr/bin/machinectl and > /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-machined useless on tiny virtual machines is too > much and the beast is

Re: Elections - November 2015

2015-11-05 Thread Haïkel
2015-11-05 11:29 GMT+01:00 Jan Kurik : > Hi, > > as Fedora 23 has been successfully released, we are starting with > preparations for Elections. You can find schedule for these Elections > at [1]. > > Currently I am aware of the following teams we are going to organize >

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-28)

2015-10-28 Thread Haïkel
Sorry for missing the meeting but as I said during the previous meeting, I'll be in Japan until 11/3 due to the OpenStack summit. It was quite late for me. I'll also miss next week meeting as I'll be flying back home. Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [EPEL-devel] EPEL package rebased upon RHEL update?

2015-10-20 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-20 9:35 GMT+02:00 Christopher Meng <i...@cicku.me>: > On 10/18/15, Haïkel <hgue...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> Considering EPEL update policy, there's no argument not to skip 2.8 >> and upgrade to 3.0. >> 2.8 will be dropped when 3.2 will be released

Re: Unresponsive maintainer: patches <tchollingswo...@gmail.com>

2015-10-19 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-19 13:00 GMT+02:00 Viktor Jancik : > Hi, > > As per the Policy for nonresponsive package maintainers: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers > > I am writing here to ask you, if any of you know how to get in contact with > T.C.

Re: [EPEL-devel] EPEL package rebased upon RHEL update?

2015-10-18 Thread Haïkel
Considering EPEL update policy, there's no argument not to skip 2.8 and upgrade to 3.0. 2.8 will be dropped when 3.2 will be released (WiP), and migrating from 2.4 to 2.8 is not easier than 2.4 to 3.0 Regards, H. ___ epel-devel mailing list

Re: Looking for co-maintainers: zookeeper, bookkeeper, curator

2015-10-15 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-14 17:53 GMT+02:00 Christopher : > I'm currently a co-maintainer on ZooKeeper. I know there's some bugs that > I've overlooked these last few months. I intend to try to address some of > them this week, but having another, esp. an upstream maintainer involved, >

Re: Looking for co-maintainers: zookeeper, bookkeeper, curator

2015-10-14 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-14 16:21 GMT+02:00 Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés : > > On Oct 14, 2015 7:14 AM, "Tim St. Clair" wrote: >> >> I intend to orphan, and I simply don't have the bandwidth to maintain >> these packages. >> > > I am a ZooKeeper committer so I'd be happy to

Re: Ansible 2.0 in Fedora: review request for python-shade (and a copr)

2015-10-14 Thread Haïkel
Under review, thanks for preparing ansible 2.0 landing :) Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [EPEL-devel] Version bump for erlang

2015-10-12 Thread Haïkel
You need to open a ticket and request that version bump. Note that this may conflict with EPEL updates policy, then the alternatives would be providing a parallel installable version of Erlang packages. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL_Updates_Policy Regards, H.

Re: Self Introduction: Nuno Dias

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 21:38 GMT+02:00 Nuno Dias : > Hi, > > Following the procedure from "Join the package collection > maintainers", let me introduce myself, > > I usually create rpms to my use, and after some years doing that, I > realised that maybe I should contribute, I use Linux

Re: Query: %cmake not doing out-of-tree builds?

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 22:25 GMT+02:00 Neal Gompa : > Hello all, > > Over the last few weeks, I've been working on a number of packages that use > CMake for the build system for various distros, and I've noticed something > rather peculiar. Of all the distros I've built packages for

Re: ipset unmaintained

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
Done, fails to build in rawhide due to an unrelated ARM builder failure. > DEBUG util.py:393: Config error: releasever not given and can not be > detected from the installroot. https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/3255/11403255/root.log F23 update submitted. -- devel mailing list

Re: Query: %cmake not doing out-of-tree builds?

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-11 2:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Gompa : > > I pretty much wound up doing that, but I wanted to know if there was a > reason for not having it built into the macro like Mageia and SUSE do. > > Fedora's %cmake macros came first many years ago before Suse's version. Again: 1. it

Re: ipset unmaintained

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 22:37 GMT+02:00 Xose Vazquez Perez : > Hi, > > Can anyone update it ? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1145913 > > -thanks- > Please start the unresponsive maintainer process. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers Meanwhile,

Re: "Unbundling SIG" was [Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)]

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 1:31 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kofler : > Matthew Miller wrote: >> When the packager has reasoned belief that debundling is actively bad >> in some way for this package, I think we should trust the packager. I >> know not everyone on this thread agrees, but in general,

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 1:12 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kofler : > Ian Malone wrote: >> I'm actually all for unbundling, but going it alone is not guaranteed >> to be simple. "Oh, hey, that deprecated function has been removed." > > Then you try to port the application to the new APIs, and if it's

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-10 12:17 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net>: > > > Am 10.10.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Haïkel: >> >> Engineering is not science > > > really? > >> as previously stated, it's about compromises > > > well, that can end in

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)

2015-10-09 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-09 1:17 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kofler <kevin.kof...@chello.at>: > Haïkel wrote: >> Not that I'm 100% happy with the way it happened but this has been a >> very long-lived topic. To some, it'll be a hasty decision, to others, >> it's already a late one. > > There's

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)

2015-10-09 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-09 16:20 GMT+02:00 Neal Gompa : > > A SIG dedicated to going through our packages and "systemizing" them (e.g. > unbundling them) would probably be a really good idea, especially with the > new rules. A group of packagers experienced in this could be solicited to > help

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)

2015-10-08 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-08 10:55 GMT+02:00 Tomas Mraz : > On Čt, 2015-10-08 at 00:06 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> > * #1483 Decision on bundling policy in the Fedora Package Collection >> > (sgallagh, 18:11:40) >> > * LINK:

Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2015-10-07)

2015-10-08 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-09 0:08 GMT+02:00 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski : > On Wednesday, 07 October 2015 at 21:17, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Meeting summary >> --- > [...] >> * #1483 Decision on bundling policy in the Fedora Package Collection >> (sgallagh, 18:11:40) >>

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-10-08 Thread Haïkel
2015-10-09 0:42 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kofler : > Neal Gompa wrote: >> Not that I don't agree that we should pursue unbundling whenever >> possible, but I don't remember any contract or terms that explicitly said >> *packagers* do the work of *developers* to re-architect >>

Re: [EPEL-devel] [Proposal] Converge EPEL and CBS

2015-09-25 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-24 18:58 GMT+02:00 Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com>: > On 24 September 2015 at 10:40, Haïkel <hgue...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> Looks like we do have some progress on that topic :) >> >> So plan B would be: >> 1. automate EPEL rebuilds

Re: [EPEL-devel] [Proposal] Converge EPEL and CBS

2015-09-24 Thread Haïkel
Looks like we do have some progress on that topic :) So plan B would be: 1. automate EPEL rebuilds in CBS 2. have CI run automated test suite over EPEL rebuilds Correct me if I'm wrong but we would be ok to enable CentOS folks to fix EPEL packaging. It would be easier if we do create an

Re: [EPEL-devel] [Proposal] Converge EPEL and CBS

2015-09-22 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-22 21:18 GMT+02:00 Dennis Gilmore <den...@ausil.us>: > On Monday, September 21, 2015 08:58:21 PM Haïkel wrote: >> 2015-09-21 19:46 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com>: >> > On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:12:07 +0200 >> > >> > Ha

[EPEL-devel] [Proposal] Converge EPEL and CBS

2015-09-21 Thread Haïkel
Hi, Since the CentOS acquihire, there was a lot of discussion about EPEL's future. Since the FOSDEM meetup between Fedora/CentOS folks, there was little progress on that topic After a discussion with a Smooge, I decided to come with a proposal, knowing that 1. Fedora wants to keep EPEL within it

Re: [EPEL-devel] [CentOS-devel] [Proposal] Converge EPEL and CBS

2015-09-21 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-21 16:38 GMT+02:00 Dave Johansen : > > > I'm a maintainer of several EPEL packages and a CentOS user. After reading > through this, I don't understand the value in this shift. Also, what are the > potential negatives of the change? > Thanks, > Dave > I don't see

Re: [EPEL-devel] [Proposal] Converge EPEL and CBS

2015-09-21 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-21 19:46 GMT+02:00 Kevin Fenzi <ke...@scrye.com>: > On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:12:07 +0200 > Haïkel <hgue...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Since the CentOS acquihire, there was a lot of discussion about >> EPEL's future. Since

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-18 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-15 13:02 GMT+02:00 Ralf Corsepius : > > a) We don't have any such tracking system. If maintainers followed FPC recommendations on that matter, it will be very easy to have one. I have in my TODO to implement one for CentOS Cloud SIG to track security issues for some

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-14 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-14 13:17 GMT+02:00 Andrew Haley <a...@redhat.com>: > On 09/13/2015 09:23 PM, Haïkel wrote: >> I'm not speaking about PHP, most of the upstream I deal with >> are python developers. Bad habits are rather spreading than >> regressing. > > We're not going to s

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-14 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-14 12:45 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : > > > > and much more important: > > if Fedora changes to more and more recommend "pip", "gem" and "cpan" like > installs instead RPM packages it is no longer a distribution over the long > because that would mean finally you have

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-14 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-14 14:38 GMT+02:00 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski : > > This case doesn't automatically mean that we should allow bundling. > Especially, if there are multiple consumers of the library in question. > A recent example is kwsys, which is bundled in every project

Re: Rpmbuild SPEC file - variable declaration

2015-09-13 Thread Haïkel
I might add that fedora-review could be run on local spec + srpm and will warn you about these kinds of things. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-13 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-13 10:16 GMT+02:00 Andrew Haley : > > The development model followed by much of the upstream world is > immature: it may not even be repeatable, let alone well-defined. > Shoehorning upstream's mess of bundled requirements is a very useful > service that we can provide to

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-13 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-13 20:40 GMT+02:00 Matěj Cepl <mc...@cepl.eu>: > On 2015-09-13, 13:13 GMT, Haïkel wrote: >> But, distros have lost the influence they used to have then, we're in the >> cloud/container era where people bundle everything ... > > And they won't retake it by giv

Re: No autocomplete for new package in bodhi 2.0?

2015-09-12 Thread Haïkel
There's autocompletion on package name, but looks like bodhi autocompletion database was not refreshed. H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-10 15:53 GMT+02:00 Stephen Gallagher : > I assume that subject line got your attention. > > I know this is a long-standing debate and that this thread is likely > to turn into an incomprehensible flamewar filled with the same tired > arguments, but I'm going to make a

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-11 21:09 GMT+02:00 Josh Stone : > On 09/11/2015 10:35 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Actually, the opposite is true. RHEL has fewer limitations in this >> space. Red Hat's layered projects ship a fair amount of bundled stuff. >> This problem is entirely Fedora's.

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-11 21:26 GMT+02:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson : > > > Right as well as most issues already have been found and fixed in Fedora > long before those components enter RHEL. > > JBG > Fair point, Fedora brings value to Red Hat and it is acknowledged. -- devel mailing list

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-11 20:24 GMT+02:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson : > > > The inclusion of what now 15k components in the distribution is a testimony > of success of un-bundling against your testimony of ( few ) failures of > bundling. > > JBG > Say that *after* you properly reviewed the

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-11 Thread Haïkel
2015-09-11 23:37 GMT+02:00 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski : > > It's not an improvement as such. We already require the Provides: > bundled(foo) thing, though we rely on the good will of maintainers > (both in Fedora and upstream) because we have practical means of >

macros.python2 requires update in F21+

2015-09-08 Thread Haïkel
Hi, Recently, we had a lot of issues with openstack packages due to python newer guidelines. To fix upgrade path for python2 modules, you had to obsolete previous python-xxx module. Orion committed a fix in rawhide in the macro %python_provides that fixes that issue.

Re: Sane ownCloud alternatives (was: Re: Looking for new maintainer: ownCloud (Fedora / EPEL))

2015-08-31 Thread Haïkel
There's also cozy cloud , though it's JavaScript much less insane than owncloud. https://cozy.io/ Regards, H. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: bodhi 2 now live

2015-08-22 Thread Haïkel
2015-08-22 4:46 GMT+02:00 Christopher Meng i...@cicku.me: Occupying the moral high ground doesn't help as well. -- Yours sincerely, Christopher Meng If you want your bugs to be fixed, posting them on a list and ignoring the bug tracker doesn't work. And for people who don't want to go

Re: bodhi 2 now live

2015-08-22 Thread Haïkel
2015-08-22 12:07 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: come on the bugtracker also don't work https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1226509#c5 Thanks for definitively killing this thread by posting something unrelated. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets

2015-08-21 Thread Haïkel
2015-08-21 0:58 GMT+02:00 Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com: On 08/20/2015 02:50 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: I was just watching the ongoing reports of want-to-be-contributors how hard is to get sponsored; reports how Fedora Repository stalled [1]; discussion that we actually do not know how

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