Re: Stop please

2016-01-08 Thread Mark Bidewell
; http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Unfortunately GMail's web interface does not seem to recognize those headers :(. So a fair number of uses will have issues. BTW thats a great tip on the headers, never know about them until today -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile Fedora.next (draft of my Flock talk)

2013-07-26 Thread Mark Bidewell
( user-installed software doesn't taint the system tree) and more rapid upgrades of apps (a Libreoffice update should have to wait on the Kernel). -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile Fedora.next (draft of my Flock talk)

2013-07-26 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:02 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Mark Bidewell mbide...@gmail.com wrote: No one said that stuff should change unexpectedly (and that's not what currently happens either). Actually its the opposite you want to consider

Fedup Performance

2013-07-02 Thread Mark Bidewell
I am doing an upgrade from F18 to F19 using fedup network and performance is very slow - 3+ hours on a 20 Mbit connection. There seems to be about a 10-15 second delay between package downloads. Is there a reason for this delay? -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell

Re: RFC: Fedora revamp proposal

2013-03-07 Thread Mark Bidewell
/listinfo/develhttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Are there any records of these FUDCon discussions? Creating defined core of functionality seems like it could solve several problems. I would be curious as to what ideas we proposed on that. -- Mark Bidewell http

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-04 Thread Mark Bidewell
(or as others have proposed a no default). In my opinion Fedora ships the best KDE around. Although early signs seem to point to Kubuntu 13.04 really improving under Blue Systems TLC. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant)

2012-12-08 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.itwrote: On 12/07/2012 08:26 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote: It underscores the need for the base OS or core to be absolutely as small as possible. FreeBSD provides a good model, small installed system customized with packages

Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?

2012-12-07 Thread Mark Bidewell
it down as it used to be but defining more strict rules for certain set of packages. R -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/develhttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel +1 -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com

Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?

2012-12-07 Thread Mark Bidewell
install. My biggest beef with Linux packaging has been that, by and large, all packages have to be upgraded in sync if you want to have a supported system. Battle for Wesnoth shouldn't be tied to kernel updates. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel

Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant)

2012-12-07 Thread Mark Bidewell
within a layer should be independent. I would propose change rates of: Level 1 - 12-18 mos Level 2 - 6-12 mos Level 3 - release as soon as stable packages are available. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: What would it take to make Software Collections work in Fedora?

2012-12-06 Thread Mark Bidewell
issues. SC would help decouple system and userland apps which would do wonders for usability. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Yum Package Remove Order

2012-12-01 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote: On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 17:24 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Ven 30 novembre 2012 15:11, Mark Bidewell a écrit : I have been working on packaging software into RPMs for my company. These RPMs create directories

Yum Package Remove Order

2012-11-30 Thread Mark Bidewell
for the dependent packages run, they may fail due to files and directories being missing that they expect from the main package leaving things in an inconsistent state. Is this a bug or known behavior we need to account for in some way? Thanks. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell

Re: Yum Package Remove Order

2012-11-30 Thread Mark Bidewell
on it, they will be properly removed when the last RPM that owns them go away. Regards, Fernando - Original Message - From: Mark Bidewell mbide...@gmail.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:11:54 AM Subject: Yum

Re: New release cycle proposal (was Rolling release model philosophy (was ...))

2012-11-06 Thread Mark Bidewell
-- @jasonbrooks -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/develhttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Proposal: changing development cycle

2012-11-05 Thread Mark Bidewell
|~|--|--| .. How do you think? Regards, Paolo Leoni ~ www.paololeoni.eu -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell

Re: Fedora 17 Beta Observations

2012-04-23 Thread Mark Bidewell
://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Given that installing GNOME desktop and Base X via yum yields a functioning desktop, I would assume that the driver is included with Fedora. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: Fedora 18 Release name voting and Poll for whether to continue naming releases

2012-04-23 Thread Mark Bidewell
connotation...). Also the Ubuntu pattern is clear and wellknown (Adjective and animal name). I am still not sure how we got from Superman's nemesis to hot dogs (at least I think that is where beefy miracle came from...). -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list

Re: Fedora 18 Release name voting and Poll for whether to continue naming releases

2012-04-23 Thread Mark Bidewell
://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/develhttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Verne wasn't Zod was. However, given that each name has a relationship to the one before, there is a linkage. But to your point Jules Verne - Hot dogs? Not exactly clear. -- Mark Bidewell http

Re: Fedora 17 Beta Observations

2012-04-23 Thread Mark Bidewell
: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel The bug is reported here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815467 -- Mark Bidewell http

Re: Fedora 17 Beta Observations

2012-04-19 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Mark Bidewell mbide...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Paul Wouters pwout...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Mark Bidewell wrote: However, no GUI for installation is less than userfriendly did you give the VM 768MB or more RAM

Re: Fedora 17 Beta Observations

2012-04-19 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.comwrote: On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 07:29 -0400, Mark Bidewell wrote: The VM I used had 1GB of memory. It's pretty much impossible for us to just guess why the installer drops to text mode. You should be able to get X logs from

Fedora 17 Beta Observations

2012-04-18 Thread Mark Bidewell
install (no 'less'). -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 17 Beta Observations

2012-04-18 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Paul Wouters pwout...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Mark Bidewell wrote: However, no GUI for installation is less than userfriendly did you give the VM 768MB or more RAM? It might not really need it anymore, but last I checked Anaconda checked

Re: F17 Alpha and VMWare Fusion

2012-03-07 Thread Mark Bidewell
: Try i686 iso, the x86_64 is broken. On 03/06/2012 03:43 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote: Last night I attempted an install of F17 Alpha on VMWare Fusion. 1) My first attempt was using the install DVD. I was redirected into a text installer, I was not prompted to select packages. The resulting

F17 Alpha and VMWare Fusion

2012-03-06 Thread Mark Bidewell
on what since the boot screen was up). Has anyone else seen this? -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F17 Alpha and VMWare Fusion

2012-03-06 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Martin Stransky stran...@redhat.com wrote: Try i686 iso, the x86_64 is broken. On 03/06/2012 03:43 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote: Last night I attempted an install of F17 Alpha on VMWare Fusion. 1) My first attempt was using the install DVD. I was redirected

Re: Torvalds:requiring root password for mundane things is moronic

2012-02-29 Thread Mark Bidewell
a program. Another situation where having a group based security would be nice is access to privileged ports. Try running JBoss as a non-root user on port 80. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Apple will use LLVM

2012-02-16 Thread Mark Bidewell
mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel In addition, FreeBSD is working to ensure that the base system can be compiled without gcc so that will add to the community. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing

Re: Linux Questions Desktop Environment of the Year - interesting result

2012-02-12 Thread Mark Bidewell
(with or win out compositing. Ubuntu's Unity run the best. I feel that a lot of effort is being put into bling for bling's sake. On my Mac most of the bling enhances usability. I wish KDE didn't use 5-10% of my CPU at idle. IMO, the DE should attempt to consume as few resources as possible. -- Mark

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Bidewell
). /usr/local and /opt would then be used to hold optional packages. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Bidewell
dependencies? However, if Linux is to succeed we need to be able to be able to work with cases like this one which OS X are fine with i.e. where only one or two packages out of an entire system need to be upgraded leaving the rest of the system alone. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/01/12 17:15, Mark Bidewell wrote: My coworker wants to use Ubuntu LTS for development on Heroku.  He wants the stability of an LTS, but he needs a later version of Ruby to run the Heroku tools.  He has found

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 26/01/12 17:43, Mark Bidewell wrote: Since he was using Ubuntu I will say distro-supported, but if he was using Fedora it would be Fedora supported.  Ruby does not maintain distro specific packages.  Ubuntu has PPAs

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:15:01 -0500 Mark Bidewell mbide...@gmail.com wrote: I just had a conversation which I believe sheds some light on the problem which a rolling release is trying to solve. The example is Ubuntu bu you

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-26 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:12 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Mark Bidewell mbide...@gmail.com wrote: I just had a conversation which I believe sheds some light on the problem which a rolling release is trying to solve. You didn't state how a rolling

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Bidewell
to operate these packages should move with utmost caution (Examples: kernel, gcc, glibc, shell). A somewhat stable kernel ABI would help, but that is not happening. Recommended Cycles for major upgrades for each group: 1) User - As soon as possible. 2) System - 6 months. 3) Core - 12-18 months. -- Mark

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-24 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/24/2012 08:21 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote: Recommended Cycles for major upgrades for each group: 1) User - As soon as possible. 2) System - 6 months. 3) Core - 12-18 months. Problem is that, it is often the case

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-27 Thread Mark Bidewell
the decision to merge Fedora Core and Extras? Creating separate repos with different goals might be wise. I apologize for the long rant. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-10 Thread Mark Bidewell
only VirtualBox supports. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

mandb behavior

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Bidewell
, directories specified in the MANPATH environment variable seem to be ignored. Are these intended? Thanks -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-06 Thread Mark Bidewell
multiuser/multisession, I believe we would be amiss to remove those capabilities from the OS. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

i686/x86_64 dual install media

2010-10-24 Thread Mark Bidewell
laptop would be quite nice. -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: clutter on F13 - nvidia graphics card

2010-05-12 Thread Mark Bidewell
: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-April/134957.html -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Open Letter: Why I, Kevin Kofler, am not rerunning for FESCo

2010-05-03 Thread Mark Bidewell
@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel I'm sorry to hear this as well. Fedora KDE has made great strides and is in my opinion the premiere KDE distro. Thanks for your work! -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel

Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread Mark Bidewell
and VirtualBox but has been reported on real HW. The bugs are: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=615630 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/561734 -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread Mark Bidewell
was accelerated). -- Mark Bidewell http://www.linkedin.com/in/markbidewell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel