Re: small aarch64 home server

2022-09-16 Thread Stephen Snow
On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 23:02 +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > > > > Am 16.09.2022 um 13:43 schrieb Stephen Snow : > > > > Have you looked at the Khadis boards? They're available through > > Digikey > > canada at > > https://www.digikey.ca/en/products/f

Re: small aarch64 home server

2022-09-16 Thread Stephen Snow
Hello Jiri, Have you looked at the Khadis boards? They're available through Digikey canada at https://www.digikey.ca/en/products/filter/single-board-computers-sbcs-computer-on-module-com/933?s=N4IgjCBcoLQdIDGUBmBDANgZwKYBoQB7KAbRACYAGANgBYQBdAXxaA They look quite a bit more capable than RPi IMO.

Re: Live USB rescue mode, do we still have one? Does it work?

2022-05-28 Thread Stephen Snow
. Stephen On Fri, 2022-05-27 at 12:26 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 12:15 PM Robert Marcano via devel > wrote: > > On 5/27/22 12:52 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 09:38:43AM -0400, Stephen Snow wrote: > > >> On Wed

Re: Live USB rescue mode, do we still have one? Does it work?

2022-05-28 Thread Stephen Snow
Since I think this didn't make it to the list ... On Sat, 2022-05-28 at 11:54 +0200, Christopher Klooz wrote: > On 28/05/2022 00:34, Stephen Snow wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-05-27 at 09:52 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 09:38:43AM -0400, Stephen Snow wro

Re: Live USB rescue mode, do we still have one? Does it work?

2022-05-28 Thread Stephen Snow
Hello, I don't think this got through to the dev mail list, I'll forward it and add more comments. Thanks. Stephen On Sat, 2022-05-28 at 11:54 +0200, Christopher Klooz wrote: > On 28/05/2022 00:34, Stephen Snow wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-05-27 at 09:52 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > >

Re: Live USB rescue mode, do we still have one? Does it work?

2022-05-27 Thread Stephen Snow
On Fri, 2022-05-27 at 13:13 -0400, Robert Marcano via devel wrote: > On 5/27/22 12:52 PM, Brian C. Lane wrote: > > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 09:38:43AM -0400, Stephen Snow wrote: > > > On Wed, 2022-05-25 at 14:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Live USB rescue mode, do we still have one? Does it work?

2022-05-27 Thread Stephen Snow
On Fri, 2022-05-27 at 09:52 -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 09:38:43AM -0400, Stephen Snow wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-05-25 at 14:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > The rescue mode has always been on the traditional installer > > &g

Re: Live USB rescue mode, do we still have one? Does it work?

2022-05-27 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2022-05-25 at 14:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2022-05-25 at 16:40 -0400, Stephen Snow wrote: > > Hello, > > I was doing my usual round of reading comments on ask.fp.o and came > > across an individual having difficulty getting their system > >

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-26 Thread Stephen Snow
with, this would be in violation of the packaging guidelines I think. So to package it I would need to also package all of those plugin's along side to support it in the Fedora Project ecosystem, just for the actual build process. Regards, Stephen Snow >  - Solomon > __

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-26 Thread Stephen Snow
rds, Stephen Snow On Thu, 2022-05-26 at 11:38 -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 11:32, Kevin P. Fleming > wrote: > > On 5/26/22 11:06, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > 2. Are there ways that a non-TCK compliant version could be > > distribute

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-26 Thread Stephen Snow
; Yes. Google won a lawsuit against Oracle in the Supreme Court. > What law suit, and how does it apply to our situation? Regards, Stephen Snow > -- > Sincerely, >    Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) > ___ > devel

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-26 Thread Stephen Snow
a version of OpenJDK does this, and I would think outside of hobby or education purposes, if you develop in Java you want this too. Regards, Stephen Snow On Thu, 2022-05-26 at 12:55 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 26/05/2022 00:02, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > IANAL, but I bel

Re: Live USB rescue mode, do we still have one? Does it work?

2022-05-25 Thread Stephen Snow
Thank you Sergio, This is a very useful file. Stephen On Wed, 2022-05-25 at 21:49 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > https://www.serjux.com/freedos_boot/Create-a-bootable-rescue.txt > > On Wed, 2022-05-25 at 16:40 -0400, Stephen Snow wrote: > > Hello, > > I was doing m

Re: Live USB rescue mode, do we still have one? Does it work?

2022-05-25 Thread Stephen Snow
Thanks Adam I'll get that info to the user. And I thought it was still there and working, just haven't needed to use it in a vry long time. Stephen On Wed, 2022-05-25 at 14:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2022-05-25 at 16:40 -0400, Stephen Snow wrote: > > Hello, > >

Live USB rescue mode, do we still have one? Does it work?

2022-05-25 Thread Stephen Snow
Hello, I was doing my usual round of reading comments on ask.fp.o and came across an individual having difficulty getting their system (?back?) up and running, after update? This prompted me to open a discussion at

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-25 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2022-05-25 at 15:40 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 3:17 PM Jiri Vanek wrote: > > > > On 5/24/22 22:02, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > Is this based on user requests, or is this only what you *think* > > > users > > > > I'm not sure what you mean  - from above -

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-25 Thread Stephen Snow
recent). > I wish it is so simple. Please see my reply to Kevin when I > enumerated, that we can not keep "jsut latest" lts. > > > Regards, Stephen Snow just some dude who can program ... whatever > -- > Jiri Vanek Mgr. > Principal QA Software Engineer > R

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-18 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 14:39 +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > V Wed, May 18, 2022 at 08:09:06AM -0400, Stephen Snow napsal(a): > > Once upon a time On Tue, 2022-05-17 at 10:29 -0500, Chris Adams > > wrote:(snip unrelated) ... > > > In this thread it was claimed (I believe

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-18 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 07:27 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Stephen Snow said: > > Once upon a time On Tue, 2022-05-17 at 10:29 -0500, Chris Adams > > wrote:(snip unrelated) ... > > > In this thread it was claimed (I believe by a packager) that TCK > >

Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-05-18 Thread Stephen Snow
Once upon a time On Tue, 2022-05-17 at 10:29 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:(snip unrelated) ... > In this thread it was claimed (I believe by a packager) that TCK is > important to Java users, but I haven't seen any users say that. > > I'm not a Java user... I had never heard of TCK.  I just went >

Re: Do we have any policy for disabling inactive users

2022-02-17 Thread Stephen Snow
On Thu, 2022-02-17 at 19:22 +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 12:51:13PM -0500, Stephen Snow wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 09:13 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 11:21 -0500, Stephen Snow wrote: > > > &g

Re: CVE's and older versions of software

2022-02-17 Thread Stephen Snow
> > > > The 'ideal' solution is to backport the security fix, yes. If > > you're > > not able to do this, or find anyone else who can do it for you, I > > guess > > it kinda becomes a judgment call whether fixing the security issue > > is > > "worth"

Re: F37 Change: Enable read only /sysroot for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-16 Thread Stephen Snow
Very good, Thank you for further clarification. Stephen On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 18:18 +, Timothée Ravier wrote: > > I use Silverblue. How does this affect my ability to modify /etc in > > the > > opt-in scenario? Does rpm-ostree offer a method to modify /etc in > > that > > case? What if I

Re: F37 Change: Enable read only /sysroot for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-16 Thread Stephen Snow
Thanks for your clarification Colin. Stephen On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 13:16 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022, at 12:48 PM, Stephen Snow wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 12:12 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > https://fedora

Re: Do we have any policy for disabling inactive users

2022-02-16 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 09:13 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 11:21 -0500, Stephen Snow wrote: > > Hello, > > I don't mean to jump in the midle here, and I am just tossing out > > an > > idea for consideration that doesn't address security issues

Re: F37 Change: Enable read only /sysroot for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-02-16 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 12:12 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Silverblue_Kinoite_readonly_sysroot > > == Summary == > > This change is about enabling an opt-in ostree feature that re-mounts > `/sysroot` as read only to avoid accidental changes. > > Users and

Re: Do we have any policy for disabling inactive users

2022-02-16 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 17:38 +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Stephen Snow [16/02/2022 11:21] : > > > >     Perhaps the automation should > > do > > just that, demote primary packager (from owner to co-maintainer) if > > ina

Re: Do we have any policy for disabling inactive users

2022-02-16 Thread Stephen Snow
Hello, I don't mean to jump in the midle here, and I am just tossing out an idea for consideration that doesn't address security issues pointed out really, but does discuss the non-responsive main maintainer.  I note there is a difficulty in defining the criteria for determining when an

Re: F36 Change: Enable fs-verity in RPM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-26 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2022-01-26 at 09:25 +, Roberto Sassu via devel wrote: > > ...snip > > If the users often make changes on their system, with high > privileges, > I agree that DIGLIM would simply cause too much overhead for > the configuration (every time the users make a change, they have > to

Re: F36 Change: DIGLIM (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-12-29 Thread Stephen Snow
y obvious one that comes to mind is the recent announcements of it's inclusion on traditionally proprietary OS vendor supplied hardware. This wreaks of "for profit" motivation. Just my opinion on what I am reading here in the comments. Re

Re: Question for election candidates: do you support allowing Fedora src-git repositories to be hosted on a proprietary software git forge?

2021-11-29 Thread Stephen Snow
stions at other times. > > 100% Agree with that Stephen Snow > > -- > Matthew Miller > > Fedora Project Leader > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.

Re: Onboarding package

2021-11-23 Thread Stephen Snow
Hello Otto, I like the "Web based course" idea alot. I had thought of creating something as a pod of containerized parts of the whole to be used in a cloud server environment, or on a single machine and would be a reactive app, or collection of say. Anyway, I am very receptive to these ideas,

Re: Trying to take an orphaned package

2021-11-21 Thread Stephen Snow
On Sun, 2021-11-21 at 11:18 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: -snip- > > I don't think we have a good process for the situation you're in. If > the > package you were interested in were entirely new, or if you were > reinstating > a package which wsa retired (the step beyond "orphan"), you'd file >

Re: Trying to take an orphaned package

2021-11-21 Thread Stephen Snow
On Sun, 2021-11-21 at 15:08 +, Tom Hughes wrote: > > That's why I gave a link to the old version from the wiki history > before it was replaced by a pointer to the new page. > It did help for some info. Thank you. > > >

Re: Trying to take an orphaned package

2021-11-21 Thread Stephen Snow
On Sun, 2021-11-21 at 13:55 +, Tom Hughes wrote: -snip- > You say you have "asked to become a packager" but what exactly > do you mean by that? > I've asked to be sponsored before. > The official documentation on becoming a packager is here: > >

Trying to take an orphaned package

2021-11-21 Thread Stephen Snow
Hello, So I am back here to ask again if I can take a package on that is currently orphaned as per https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/5FCP5OSV6XXFCAXN5KPKQFBCDLGJSRB6/ And I login with my FAS ID and cannot "Take" the package since I am not

Re: Fedora 35 - gedit

2021-11-09 Thread Stephen Snow
I cannot get Gedit to do this when I use it as a text editor, even for extended periods with intermittent thrashing, like loads of edits without a save, etc... It does sound almost hardware specific, maybe failing keyboard.? Stephen On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 12:49 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On

Re: Woah! [Thanks, Nest sponsors]

2021-10-13 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 14:33 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Wednesday, 13 October 2021 at 13:08, Luna Jernberg wrote: > > You had to register at a website during the event, > > That I did. On August 7th, I received an e-mail with a promo code to > enter at

Re: Woah! [Thanks, Nest sponsors]

2021-10-12 Thread Stephen Snow
Got mine the other day. It is really a lot of cool things Fedora. Thanks to the Sponsors of this years Nest. Looking forward to the release party in November! Stephen On Tue, 2021-10-12 at 13:29 +, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Today that special package for Nest participants arrived here. >

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2021-10-06 at 18:39 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: --snip-- > So it > seems we are in agreement with the `dummy-onboarding-` prefix  No, it should be something more appropriate like `entry-level-tutor-` or something equally as nuetrally offensive. Dummy is a very negative word with no value

Re: Fedora  Java: The Death of Two SIGs

2021-10-05 Thread Stephen Snow
> (snip) > You also need people who are good at documentation which frankly many > developers are not. Be it a history of 'the only true documentation > is > the code' to 'look its simple why didn't you just no one would think of and impossible to document without knowing why > it was chosen or

Re: Fedora  Java: The Death of Two SIGs

2021-10-05 Thread Stephen Snow
Hello, (snip) > However, we lack concepts on how to proceed after removing java- > maint-sig. What consequences do we draw from the analyses? > > Emmanuel Seyman has made some suggestions, about 16 posts back.  > Thoughts on those? I posted on the java list some ideas some time ago >

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-05 Thread Stephen Snow
Hello Vit, I was one of those potential packagers who started a conversation here regarding the apparent dificulies experienced by some to varying degrees. In my simple non-packager perspective, There needs to be some tool used to help sponsors feel comfortable with the potential packagers

Re: f35-backgrounds ready for review

2021-08-26 Thread Stephen Snow
Good answers On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 10:51 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 at 10:03, Stephen Snow wrote: > > > > From my user POV, > > I never understood why backgrounds were versioned specific to the > > release number of Fedora Linux

Re: f35-backgrounds ready for review

2021-08-26 Thread Stephen Snow
From my user POV, I never understood why backgrounds were versioned specific to the release number of Fedora Linux in the first place. I mean, is it actually a separate repo each time? Wouldn't it make sense to just call it backgrounds? Just asking Stephen On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 09:23 -0400,

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-08-16 Thread Stephen Snow
, Stephen On Mon, 2021-08-16 at 19:59 +0200, Pavel Valena wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 1:38 PM Stephen Snow > wrote: > > Hello Dan, > > Thank you for reaching out with your response. I have to admit, I > > was > > in a provocotive mood the other day. I had

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-08-13 Thread Stephen Snow
Hello Dan, Thank you for reaching out with your response. I have to admit, I was in a provocotive mood the other day. I had solved a problem for a customer that had been worked on unsuccessfully by a local competitor for three weeks. I was at that moment the master of my trade craft and in fully

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-08-11 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2021-08-11 at 18:44 +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Stephen Snow [11/08/2021 12:08] : > > > > > > Even tried the review route, which is also beset with arbitrary > > > > obstacles. > > > > > Wasn't able to download the build via

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-08-11 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2021-08-11 at 14:20 +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: > * Stephen Snow [11/08/2021 11:37] : > > > > I feel the frustration you are expressing, and would like to help, > > nut > > apparently I don't meet the Fedora Packaging standards. > > I'm curious as

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-08-11 Thread Stephen Snow
ut for new contributors how are they to learn the process, if the gate keepers are too efficient? Regards, and still hoping to be a packager someday Stephen On Wed, 2021-08-11 at 14:16 +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 11/08/2021 13:37, Stephen Snow wrote: > > making joining

Re: The Death of Java (packages)

2021-08-11 Thread Stephen Snow
Hello Fabio, I was one of those community members to step up, or at least attempt to. What I found was an obstacle course instead of welcome to the packagers. I feel the frustration you are expressing, and would like to help, nut apparently I don't meet the Fedora Packaging standards. Even

Re: [fedora-java] Packages that fail to install in Fedora 35 and might be retired one week before the beta freeze

2021-08-10 Thread Stephen Snow
I would be willing to maintain at least a couple of those packages if someone is willing to be my sponsor, once the orphaning takes place of course. I do have more than a passing interest in Eclipse and java in Fedora and would like to help with the state of java in Fedora Linux. Regards, Stephen

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Stephen Snow
... Instead of a tool say that is continuously on. Stephen Snow On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 13:10 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 10:36:47AM -0500, Ron Olson wrote: > > Apologies in advance if this is laughable naïveté, but would a > > possible solution be to have a

Re: F35 Change: "Fedora Linux" in /etc/os-release

2021-03-10 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2021-03-10 at 10:21 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > ...[snip] > From the Community Blog post[1]: > > > Why not use “Fedora GNU+Linux” or some similar name? We want to be > > easy to say. The more words we add, the harder that is. And while > > GNU is an important part of Fedora Linux, there

Re: Reminder: Upcoming summer time changes

2021-03-10 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2021-03-10 at 09:52 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: >   [snip] > A global list of time changes is available by country[2] and by > date[3], but here are a few highlights: > > 14 March — summer time begins in Canada, parts of Mexico, and the US Actually in Canada we have four seasons, so

Re: Self introduction: Stephen Snow

2021-02-09 Thread Stephen Snow
Thank you, Now I have to review the orphaned pkg's. On Tue, 2021-02-09 at 18:25 +0100, Frédéric Pierret wrote: > > > Le 2/9/21 à 4:35 PM, Stephen Snow a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > I would like to start helping with maintaining a/some package(s). I > > have

Self introduction: Stephen Snow

2021-02-09 Thread Stephen Snow
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