Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-25 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: My point is that it must ALSO be possible to install the preferred desktop directly, without installing GNOME first. Exactly this. Installing MATE from the spin is not exactly the same thing as installing it from the

Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-24 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Any other DE that wants to meet the requirements for Workstation is similarly welcome. So if we meet the requirements exactly what happens? As far as I understand, all MATE would have to do is use gdm as the display

Re: What will happen to XFCE, LXDE, Mate, Cinnemon in Fedora.Next

2014-03-24 Thread Dan Mashal
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Yeah, this idea of having to install GNOME first to be able to install the desktop you actually want is totally wacky, and if that is really what we recommend to our users, they will run to other distributions (that

Re: Packaging changes on NetworkManager? Whither NetworkManager-glib...

2014-03-21 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Philip Prindeville philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com wrote: Did something recently change with the packaging of NetworkManager? I'm not finding NetworkManager-glib, just NetworkManager-glib-devel: [root@builder philipp]# yum update Loaded plugins: langpacks,

Re: mate-desktop 1.8

2014-03-14 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mar 14, 2014 7:52 AM, Brian Millett bmill...@gmail.com wrote: What is the prospect of getting mate 1.8 for fedora 20? Prospect is good. We're QAing on Rawhide at the moment. Dan Sent from my Google Nexus 5 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-13 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Nils Philippsen n...@redhat.com wrote: sorry for stepping on your toes -- it was late in the evening and there were three packages blocking my build, I simply overlooked that harfbuzz was rebuilt already (I checked the others in koji and no builds were

Re: Branched iso

2014-02-12 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Carlos Morel-Riquelme quantenselbstm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys , i have a question , i use fedora 20 branched and work fine , also i can contribute to the comunity send bugs error and testing new packages :) , now i don't now if i can update to fedora 21

Re: Why libicu soname bump required harfbuzz package to be built twice?

2014-02-12 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Parag N(पराग़) panem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, From the yesterday's pkgs git commit logs I see 3-4 people built few packages for libicu soname bump. I am not sure why a single person can't carry such a few package rebuilds for libicu soname bump. Whoever

Retiring gnome-media

2014-02-11 Thread Dan Mashal
Hi all, I'm retiring gnome-media as it's no longer used by anything. Thanks, Dan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-02-04 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: This is the domain of Fedora Remixes, not Fedora Spins. Downstreams are permitted (naturally) to use Fedora packages for whatever distribution they want to create. The catch is that they have to follow the policies on

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-02-04 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote: I won't speak for all of FESCo, but I'm leaning towards: Spins can continue just as they are, while being aware that they continue to be secondary to our primary deliverables. (Yes, I'm aware of the

Re: Pidgin rebuild

2014-02-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Bojan Smojver bo...@rexursive.com wrote: Hi folks, Could someone with requisite rights rebuild Pidgin, please? Apparently, there were quite a few security fixes in 2.10.8 and 2.10.9 is out as well. Hi, Trying my hand at it. Dan -- devel mailing list

Re: Pidgin rebuild

2014-02-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Bojan Smojver bo...@rexursive.com wrote: Dan Mashal dan.mashal at gmail.com writes: Trying my hand at it. Thank you! F19 build is done and F20 build is about to be done. Could not build for Rawhide (sent a separate email about that). Please test and leave

Re: Packaging question about -Wformat-security on Rawhide

2014-02-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: The crux is that you need with -Wall or -Wformat as well on the compile line test for perl.h. I'm not sure why the default -Wall is being dropped from that line (it is on other tests). You might work around it by

Re: Packaging question about -Wformat-security on Rawhide

2014-02-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 19:42 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: I'm not sure why the default -Wall is being dropped from that line (it is on other tests). It's explicitly dropped on configure.ac:1265 dnl We

Re: Pidgin rebuild

2014-02-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Bojan Smojver bo...@rexursive.com wrote: Dan Mashal dan.mashal at gmail.com writes: Trying my hand at it. Thank you! F19 build is done and F20 build is about to be done. Could not build

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-30 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/30/2014 02:02 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014 14:59:44 +0100 Johannes Lips johannes.l...@gmail.com wrote: Well, but it's not only about money and a lot of contributors use their spare time to

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-30 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Blame me, I filed the original ticket. My concern was that we're (obviously) doing work in the Fedora.next space around: 1) the three products (workstation, server, cloud) 2) the base, which lives under them in some

Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

2014-01-29 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 16:33 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:57 PM, H. Guémar hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hi, I think we should keep spins as long as we don't have a formal process to accept new

Re: enlightenment 0.18.1 etc...

2014-01-05 Thread Dan Mashal
On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Bob Richmond b...@lorez.org wrote: No, the EFL is distributed as one big tarball now. All the old releases could be found here: http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ Starting with 1.8.0, they're distributed in:

Re: enlightenment 0.18.1 etc...

2014-01-05 Thread Dan Mashal
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Bob Richmond b...@lorez.org wrote: No, the EFL is distributed as one big tarball now. All the old releases could be found here: http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ Starting

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Mashal
Sent from my Google Nexus 5 On Jan 2, 2014 8:36 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 04:28:59PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready

Re: dnf versus yum

2014-01-02 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Richard Vickery richard.vicker...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: look like it starts to happen again: a replacement which is not ready

Re: [pkgdb2] call for testers, bug reports and RFE

2013-12-10 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon pin...@pingoured.fr wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 02:52:27PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: I am at a point where I think it starts to look good, the unit-tests are passing and I seem to be able to do what I want with it. Thus I thought

Retiring gksu-polkit

2013-12-04 Thread Dan Mashal
It seems that this package is no longer needed. Please let me know there is a reason that we should keep it. Will retire on all Fedora releases next week. Thanks, Dan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of

Re: FTBFS if -Werror=format-security flag is used

2013-12-04 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/05/2013 12:28 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Brendan Jones brendan.jones...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/05/2013 12:11 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote: On 12/04/2013 04:56 PM, Brendan Jones

Re: Obsolete packages still included in Rawhide

2013-12-04 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: libmatekeyring obsoleted by: mate-desktop mate-keyring obsoleted by: mate-desktop We know about these 2 and will obsolete them soon. Thanks, Dan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: AutoQA ??? (was: Re: Building and submitting updates for Fedora 20)

2013-10-06 Thread Dan Mashal
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:09:24 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I now see ... the version in f19 was greater than that in f20+rawhide, for

Re: AutoQA ??? (was: Re: Building and submitting updates for Fedora 20)

2013-10-06 Thread Dan Mashal
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:09:24 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:41 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: I

Re: Rawhide buildroot broken?

2013-10-04 Thread Dan Mashal
Seems to be working OK here. Dan On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seeing this too. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6024388 -J On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org wrote: I'm seeing this in root.log

Re: thunderbird-24.0.2 reverted - why? (Use the commit log..., Luke)

2013-09-24 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:39 AM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Michael J Gruber michaeljgruber+fedora-li...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I can see that thunderbird 24 had been built successfully and then reverted on the fc18 branch (and others). The git

Re: IMPORTANT, please read: Spins QA signoff for milestones

2013-09-11 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Per: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1171 I have added a set of cols to the spins page for f20: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Releases%2F20%2FSpinsdiff=352468oldid=340210 One each for Alpha Beta and

Re: Rawhide tree now includes install images

2013-09-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Greetings. After consulting with various teams, release engineering has re-enabled rawhide composes to create install images again. These images were dropped as part of the 'no frozen rawhide' proposal several years ago.

Re: GNOME 3.9.91 megaupdate

2013-09-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/02/2013 05:44 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: The GNOME 3.9.91 release is coming as well, with a bit unfortunate timing wrt. Fedora freezes. In any case, we'll handle the GNOME 3.9.91 builds together and file them as a

Re: [Comps] Adding FreeIPA package group

2013-08-30 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Tomas Babej tba...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, attached is a patch for Fedora comps that adds FreeIPA package group. Please chime in with any feedback you might have! -- Comps commit done for f20 and f21. Dan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 August 2013 13:31, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20 Is this thing for real? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/ says the End Date

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth hated released names with a white hot passion of 10,000 supernovas. [Of

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: *smack own forehead* I like that better than the other options also. For me, one extra point for Vidalia onion over 20. Heck I like Crazy Train based on a recent Matthew Miller assertion. Assuming there can be no

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: The choices are what the community came up with. At this point, that is what we have to chose from. I'm not necessarily disagreeing

Retiring and blocking the following mate packages

2013-08-19 Thread Dan Mashal
Hi. These packages were obsoleted in MATE 1.6 along with the migration to gsettings. libmate libmateui libmatecanvas libmatecomponent libatecomponentui libmatenotify mate-conf (compiz no longer relies on mate-conf) mate-conf-editor mate-doc-utils (to be retired in F21 with MATE 1.8) mate-keyring

Re: retiring gpointing-device-settings

2013-08-16 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: The package currently fails to build and upstream appears to be dead. Even the working package does not save settings. https://wiki.gnome.org/GPointingDeviceSettings https://git.gnome.org/browse/gpointing-device-settings

Re: Orphaned: libgnomecups

2013-08-16 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Jiri Popelka jpope...@redhat.com wrote: On 08/16/2013 01:54 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Underlying dep of libgnomeprint22/libgnomeprintui22, which is used by a few end-user things

Re: doxygen directory reference files

2013-08-16 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: doxygen (at least for some packages) is creating files like: _builddir_build_BUILD_torque-3.0.4_src_drmaa_src_.3 that have contents like: .TH src Directory Reference 3 Fri Aug 16 2013 Version 3.0.4 torque \ -*-

Re: doxygen directory reference files

2013-08-16 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: doxygen (at least for some packages) is creating files like: _builddir_build_BUILD_torque-3.0.4_src_drmaa_src_.3 that have contents like: .TH

Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-16 Thread dan . mashal
:19:27 To: Development discussions related to Fedoradevel@lists.fedoraproject.org Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora. On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 15:10 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Lars Seipel lars.sei...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 08:37:19PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: Otherwise we are looking at possibly reforking gnome-bluetooth at this point in time. Reforking? And then wait until the bitrot sets in again? ;-) Can't you

Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Lars Seipel lars.sei...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 08:37:19PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: Otherwise we are looking at possibly reforking gnome-bluetooth at this point in time

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:38 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote: Thanks. Turns out ckeditor also had a raw .fla file. I don't know if any package would have a .fla without a .swf, but it might be

Re: Bundled Flash

2013-08-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Ananda Samaddar asamad...@myopera.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:46:36 -0700 Yes they are. Flash is slowly dying though, only to be replaced by DRM in html5. Out of the frying pan... Ananda -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-14 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/13/2013 02:28 PM, Rave it wrote: Other probs are: 1. gnome-bluetooth upstream has removed the fallback icon for autostart in session,...no systray icon in other DE than gnome itself. 2. if gnome revert this

Re: Orphaning Blueman

2013-08-01 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Juan Rodriguez nus...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hi Devel! I've recently been approached about one of the packages I maintain, Blueman, an alternative Bluetooth Manager. At the time I packaged it, it was actively being developed, however development has

Re: Obsoleting ConsoleKit once and for all

2013-07-31 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:02 AM, Johannes Lips johannes.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: BOn Tue, 30.07.13 16:14, Dan Williams (d...@redhat.com) wrote: On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 23:03 +0200, Lars Seipel wrote: On Tue, Jul

Obsoleting ConsoleKit once and for all

2013-07-28 Thread Dan Mashal
Hi, After discussion on #fedora-devel, my MATE co-maintainer raveit65, Kalev, Misc, and previous conversations with Rex, I am ready to retire ConsoleKit. LightDM seems to fully support systemd-logind. However I have no rights to commit to systemd. Lennart or any proven packager please add the

Re: Obsoleting ConsoleKit once and for all

2013-07-28 Thread Dan Mashal
On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:24 AM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, den 28.07.2013, 04:03 -0700 schrieb Dan Mashal: Hi, After discussion on #fedora-devel, my MATE co-maintainer raveit65, Kalev, Misc, and previous conversations with Rex, I am ready to retire

Re: [Test-Announce] FreeIPA AD Trust improvement Test Day tomorrow, 2013-07-25

2013-07-25 Thread Dan Mashal
Hi Alex this the reply I was looking for. Anyone still running 2k3 I feel sorry for. 2k8r2 and beyond is the way to go. Mainly we would be looking at something simple like having your Ad creds work on Fedora boxes. Thanks, Dan On Jul 24, 2013 10:44 PM, Alexander Bokovoy aboko...@redhat.com

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-25 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 05:09:54PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 25 July 2013 16:59, Billy Crook billycr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: Given the

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-25 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Thu, 25.07.13 17:59, Billy Crook (billycr...@gmail.com) wrote: After some reasonable dialog on the issue FESCo meeting, it was clear he wasn't going to immediately get exactly what he wanted without any

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-25 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Dan Mashal Your attitude is atrocious. Go start your own distro. You already ruined ours with systemd and PulseAudio. Stop acting like you own everything. We have boards

Re: Summary of accepted Fedora 20 Changes - week 30

2013-07-25 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: He didn't depart from the meeting. He was at dinner with friends

Re: f18 koji all failed

2013-07-24 Thread dan . mashal
This is becoming a more regular and annyoing accorance. If you can't get the dependencies right please hand it over to a provenpackager. Dan Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com Sender:

Re: [Test-Announce] FreeIPA AD Trust improvement Test Day tomorrow, 2013-07-25

2013-07-24 Thread dan . mashal
Hi Adam, I apologize if I missed this in your email but Is there a link for Windows Administrators as to what versions of AD (2000,2003,200877,2012) are supported and their caveats? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com

Re: F20 System Wide Change: No Default Sendmail

2013-07-24 Thread dan . mashal
+1 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com Sender: devel-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:12:03 To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora

Re: dracut hang in %posttrans of Rawhide kernel install?

2013-07-16 Thread Dan Mashal
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Hey, folks - I have my desktop on Rawhide now, and on trying to install the latest kernel build from Koji today - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=433327 - the yum process seemed to hang

F20 Self Contained Change: Ryu Network Operating System

2013-07-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Monday, July 8, 2013, Matthias Runge wrote: Sadly, the page still doesn't list, what is going to . I assume, the whole thing is slightly more than just adding a new package to Fedora The Feature page still belongs to the FeaturePageIncomplete category. I feel a somewhat similar way

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 10:45:10AM +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: * Richard W.M. Jones [01/07/2013 09:28] : * Instead of making up more rules, make the tooling better so we don't have to repeat update descriptions

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se wrote: Perhaps you would like to write an RFC specifying the Source Code, Changelogs and Release Notes Publishing Protocol and submit it to the IETF, so that there will be a sane way to automatically find and parse those

Re: More unhelpful update descriptions

2013-07-01 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Pierre-Yves Luyten p...@luyten.fr wrote: Not sure if it makes any sense but maybe could we have something like freeze tag changes until desc is better. I propose this because testers will not _really_ want to -1 karma, and as a maintainer it might be a bit

Re: [Fedora-spins] Where are the remaining F19 spins?

2013-06-25 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: websites are aware, spin maintainers were notified via the spins list, no objections have been raised. not sure if its in the release notes. Hi, I can't speak for other spins but MATE-Compiz spins site has been created and

Re: icedtea-web installed and enabled by default in Fedora 19

2013-06-17 Thread Dan Mashal
On Jun 17, 2013 8:03 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: The one issue I can see with removing it is that the plugin finder you then get in Firefox if you hit a Java site doesn't work to actually get you the Fedora version. I would keep it if people really use it. I'm on the opposite

Re: icedtea-web installed and enabled by default in Fedora 19

2013-06-17 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz mmarzantow...@osdf.com.pl wrote: On 17.06.2013 17:18, Heiko Adams wrote: From my point of view the java-plugin is a big security hole and should be kicked from default installations ASAP. Then, why not fix it? Mateusz Marzantowicz

Heads up: gnome-icon-theme license update

2013-06-12 Thread Dan Mashal
Hi, gnome-icon-theme has been updated from GPL license to LGPLv3. Thanks, Dan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Provenpackager help

2013-06-11 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 June 2013 09:31, Simone Caronni negativ...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still looking for a fix to the second bug. Any provenpackager willing to help with the second issue? ...or willing to grant me commit access.

Re: Does anyone still use system-config-language?

2013-06-11 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I wonder if any spin is still using system-config-language. GNOME has its own graphical utility to install language support, but AFAIK there is no counterpart in other environments, right? The problem is that

Re: Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

2013-06-05 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: Sure. FESCo doesn't care if it's a feature or not. That's why it's no longer called the Feature process. FESCo is an engineering committee and has no business determining if something is a Feature in an upcoming release of

Re: Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

2013-06-05 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: No, FESCo will still do the _engineering_ work of reviewing the proposed changes, ensuring the impact is known and coordinated, and so on. All

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130604 changes

2013-06-04 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:42 AM, Fedora Branched Report rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Compose started at Tue Jun 4 09:15:03 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [libreatlas] libreatlas-1.0.0a-3.fc19.x86_64 requires

Re: Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

2013-06-04 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 3.6.2013 19:04, Dan Mashal napsal(a): What is a system wide change vs a self contained change vs a new change? That is good question. I was always against distinguishing between these two, but For example

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-04 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: Only people who refer to themselves by name in their own abstracts (or describe themselves in such a way that it is obvious who they are) ended up like this. We honestly didn't think that was going to happen. This was an

Re: Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

2013-06-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Hi! Fedora 19 is close (let's hope it's alive) to the release and it's again the time to start planning for the upcoming version. For Fedora 20, in coordination with FESCo [1], the new Planning process was developed to

Re: Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

2013-06-03 Thread Dan Mashal
Hi, On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote: A rule of thumb: If _only_ the owners of the change need to be involved or informed, it is self-contained. (This can be either because the change is so small, e.g. update of a single package, or because the number owners

[faf] bug reports

2013-05-23 Thread Dan Mashal
What is the status of this? Is this still filing bug reports? Dan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: anaconda / initial-setup / gnome-initial-setup: can we do this better?

2013-05-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On May 21, 2013 11:50 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 14:25 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: So I'm writing a blog post on this topic ATM, and that really kinda brought home how messy this design is at present. So! I've been poking through the logic of

Re: Maintainer input on release notes

2013-05-15 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:52 PM, John J. McDonough wb8...@arrl.net wrote: We had a short discussion of this at this morning's meeting but felt a broader discussion here was warranted. When preparing the Release Notes, we often ask the developers for wiki input, and generally come up dry.

Re: MTA virtual provides craziness

2013-05-14 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: We now appear to have *four* virtual provides for mail servers: MTA smtpd smtpdaemon server(smtp) This seems a tad excessive. exim and postfix provide all four. sendmail provides MTA, smtpdaemon and server(smtp).

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-09 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga l...@fedoraproject.org wrote: -1. Design Suite package is for those lacking online access and wanting to use available applications. I see a lot of stupid justifications for lacking online access. AN ENTIRE SPIN is not enough? Would you like

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-09 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga l...@fedoraproject.org wrote: You can call lacking online access justification stupid if you want, you forgot there are users who still prefer DVD installation rather than spin. You wanted to remove the entire Design suite package set

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wednesday, May 8, 2013, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 10:10 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 09:03:02PM -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: Let's be realistic here. The precedence they have recently set is they make decisions and if you don't like it too bad

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Fedora Branched Report rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Compose started at Wed May 8 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [byzanz] byzanz-0.3-0.5.fc17.x86_64 requires

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Tom Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: It appears to be needed by only: byzanz - optional panel applet, update building right now. cinnamon-menu-editor - Not sure why this depends on gnome-panel. gnome-applet-sensors - probably should be blocked. openbox -

Re: F-19 Branched report: 20130508 changes

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Mashal
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: We did, because GNOME no longer uses gnome-panel. All those packages that require gnome-panel are applets, which are just as useless without gnome-panel. If you want to keep gnome-panel alive for some reason (although

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-07 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Igor Gnatenko i.gnatenko.br...@gmail.com wrote: I use mock to local build packages. I was build control-center in mock. But always error... How I fix it ? GEN gnome-control-center.1 I/O error : Attempt to load network entity

Re: Build control-center in mock fail

2013-05-07 Thread Dan Mashal
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Igor Gnatenko i.gnatenko.br...@gmail.com wrote: I use original .spec file. It in attachment. Why are you using an unreleased git source? Dan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-06 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: For the record: commit da565b769979a031f318dbc727b9888e4f1fb37c Author: Chris Lumens clum...@redhat.com Date: Mon May 6 17:18:30 2013 -0400 Revert Add signal handlers for controlling password entry visibility.

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Dan Mashal
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:37 AM, Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org wrote: and I think that even Bruce Schneier have gave his opinion in favor of the proposal : http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/06/the_problem_wit_2.html http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/07/the_pros_and_co.html

Re: Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-04 Thread Dan Mashal
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: You posted this on friday afternoon, Rauhl re-opened the bug friday night. I suspect many anaconda folks have not even seen this discussion or the bug reopening yet. Is there some massive hurry here? No. Lets see what

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/03/2013 01:40 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Why not just make the assumption that administrators will use the netinstall and or ks and desktop users will use live spins? JBG I used to use the DVD at one

Re: Review swap

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to get trac10 (trac 1.0.1) into EL-6 sooner rather than later, so I'll take one of yours in return. Thanks! -J -- http://cecinestpasunefromage.wordpress.com/

Re: Review swap

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to get trac10 (trac 1.0.1) into EL-6 sooner rather than later, so

Re: F19 DVD over size - what to drop?

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Hm, I've always thought of it differently - if we're trying to provide good value in the DVD media as a demonstration of all the things you can do with Fedora It did. Until I couldn't install multiple desktops anymore.

Do you think this is a security risk and if not is it a bad UI decision?

2013-05-03 Thread Dan Mashal
Hi, In the latest Fedora 19 Beta TC2 install after I got through the initial steps of the install I started to setup my root password. To my surprise my password was shown in plain text instead of bullets. I believe that this is a major security risk and that this is a new UI change going

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