On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 2:53 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:25 AM Ondřej Budai wrote:
> >
> > Yep, that's a shortcoming of how we currently upload the builds to koji.
> It's something we would like to tackle in the upcoming quarter, see the
> tracking ticket:
On Thu, 2023-06-29 at 22:00 +0200, Simon de Vlieger wrote:
>
> Also, for understanding I've been diving through the kickstart
> repositories to define a common base set and interdependencies. I've
> graphed out the kickstart files and their relationships here:
>
On 6/28/23 17:06, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote:
I already answered you here:
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709
TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For
now, the blueprint will be
On 2023-06-29 09:42, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2023-06-29 at 02:22 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
And since Lorax (which is what we use
for live and ARM images) requires Anaconda to understand the target
system to install, it couldn't be used for creating these images
either because that
On Thu, 2023-06-29 at 02:22 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> And since Lorax (which is what we use
> for live and ARM images) requires Anaconda to understand the target
> system to install, it couldn't be used for creating these images
> either because that requires teaching Anaconda about Apple Silicon
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 1:06 AM Simon de Vlieger wrote:
>
> On 6/28/23 22:32, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:26 PM Simon de Vlieger wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >>
> >>> The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora-
> >>>
On 6/28/23 22:32, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:26 PM Simon de Vlieger wrote:
On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote:
The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora-
workstation-common.ks in it:
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 4:26 PM Simon de Vlieger wrote:
>
> On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora-
> > workstation-common.ks in it:
> >
> > https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/main/f/fedora-workstation-common.ks
> >
On 6/28/23 21:12, Adam Williamson wrote:
The current Workstation live has the package exclusions from fedora-
workstation-common.ks in it:
https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/main/f/fedora-workstation-common.ks
so it excludes three groups that are part of the 'standard' for live
images
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 18:44 +0200, Simon de Vlieger wrote:
>
> What I would like to know is what is the minimum customizations needed
> in blueprints for this change proposal and what is necessary for
> supporting editions and spins down the line.
Thanks, Simon. So, we obviously don't need
Adam Williamson napsal:
>On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 18:21 +0200, Jiří Konečný wrote:
>> >
>> > I think the points discussed in the ticket (layering/inheritance, and
>> > package removals) are critical and they need an answer to be figured
>> > out *before* we start switching Fedora live images to
On 6/28/23 17:06, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote:
I already answered you here:
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709
TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For
now, the blueprint will be
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 18:21 +0200, Jiří Konečný wrote:
> >
> > I think the points discussed in the ticket (layering/inheritance, and
> > package removals) are critical and they need an answer to be figured
> > out *before* we start switching Fedora live images to be built with a
> > different
Hi all,
Adam Williamson napsal:
>On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote:
>> I already answered you here:
>> https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709
>>
>> TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For
>> now, the blueprint will be
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:01 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote:
> I already answered you here:
> https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709
>
> TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For
> now, the blueprint will be empty/minimal.
Thanks a lot for engaging
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 13:23 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote:
> We can definitely flatten the JSON output into something that resembles a
> log file. I will let you know when this is done.
>
> Note that every task also produces a manifest file - this is extremely
> useful, because you can just feed it
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 12:58 +0200, Ondřej Budai wrote:
> Hi Adam and Ben!
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:14 PM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > In terms of testing: we already test the existing toolchain pretty
> > effectively in practice. openQA builds Workstation and KDE live images
>
On Wed, 2023-06-28 at 04:23 -0600, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:52 AM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 17:59 -0600, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
> > > The Koji integration leaves many things to be desired. I've had to dig
> > far
> > > more than needed for
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:25 AM Ondřej Budai wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 2:20 PM Jonathan Steffan
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:23 AM Ondřej Budai wrote:
>
> > Maybe I'm just using it wrong, but I've not found a different way.
>>>
>>>
>>> I will take a look. The
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 2:20 PM Jonathan Steffan
wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:23 AM Ondřej Budai wrote:
>
>> > Maybe I'm just using it wrong, but I've not found a different way.
>>>
>> I will take a look. The difference between livemedia and osbuildImage is
>> that the osbuildImage
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:23 AM Ondřej Budai wrote:
> > Maybe I'm just using it wrong, but I've not found a different way.
>>>
>>
> I will take a look. The difference between livemedia and osbuildImage is
> that the osbuildImage task is defined by a plugin
>
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:24 PM Jonathan Steffan
wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:52 AM Adam Williamson <
> adamw...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 17:59 -0600, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
>> > The Koji integration leaves many things to be desired. I've had to dig
>> far
>>
Hi Kevin!
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 12:41 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > * Other developers:
> > Our focus for this change is specifically on Fedora Workstation.
> > Nevertheless, we are open to collaborating with all spins/SIG to
> > transition their build pipelines to Image Builder. However, for the
I already answered you here:
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/384#comment-862709
TL;DR: Let's figure this out when we are migrating other artifacts. For
now, the blueprint will be empty/minimal.
Cheers,
Ondřej
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:34 PM Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023
Hi Adam and Ben!
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:14 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
>
>
> In terms of testing: we already test the existing toolchain pretty
> effectively in practice. openQA builds Workstation and KDE live images
> with every relevant critical path update. If an update breaks live
> image
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 12:52 AM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 17:59 -0600, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
> > The Koji integration leaves many things to be desired. I've had to dig
> far
> > more than needed for osbuildimage stuff.
>
[...]
> > Maybe I'm just using it wrong, but I've
On Tue, 2023-06-27 at 17:59 -0600, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
>
> The Koji integration leaves many things to be desired. I've had to dig far
> more than needed for osbuildimage stuff.
>
> For example,
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?state=all=tree=osbuildImage=-id
> is nearly useless to
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 8:34 AM Aoife Moloney wrote:
> [...]
> Pungi and Koji already support Image Builder, so no additional work is
> required there (refer to the
> [
> https://docs.pagure.org/pungi/configuration.html#osbuild-composer-for-building-images
> pungi] and
On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 23:57 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > Image Builder is a set of modern tools for building operating system
> > images. Its goal is to make the builds reliable and reproducible.
> > Moreover, it's designed to give the end users a simple workflow to
> > build their own
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 03:33:26PM +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraWorkstationImageBuilder
>
> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> community feedback. This
> Image Builder is a set of modern tools for building operating system
> images. Its goal is to make the builds reliable and reproducible.
> Moreover, it's designed to give the end users a simple workflow to
> build their own custom images. The aim of this change is to switch the
> build tool for
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:14 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 15:33 +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraWorkstationImageBuilder
> >
> > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> > process, proposals are
On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 15:33 +0100, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraWorkstationImageBuilder
>
> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> community feedback. This proposal
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:02 AM Michal Schorm wrote:
> > Moreover, it's designed to give the end users a simple workflow to build
> their own custom images.
>
> That's something I'd be interested in.
> I always have an USB drive (or several) with Fedora ISO(s) lying
> around, being handy from
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 10:34 AM Aoife Moloney wrote:
>
> * Other developers:
> Our focus for this change is specifically on Fedora Workstation.
> Nevertheless, we are open to collaborating with all spins/SIG to
> transition their build pipelines to Image Builder. However, for the
> initial
> Moreover, it's designed to give the end users a simple workflow to build
> their own custom images.
That's something I'd be interested in.
I always have an USB drive (or several) with Fedora ISO(s) lying
around, being handy from time to time.
Having them customized *easily*, sounds like a
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraWorkstationImageBuilder
This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
by the Fedora Engineering
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraWorkstationImageBuilder
This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
by the Fedora Engineering
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