Once upon a time, Pavel Solovev said:
> MATE follows the even stable / odd unstable versioning system. 1.27 is an
> under development,pre-release.
Ahh, my mistake then! Sorry about that. I guess I run into that type
of versioning less these days, so it didn't cross my mind.
Now if I can just
MATE follows the even stable / odd unstable versioning system. 1.27 is an under
development,pre-release.
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I was trying to figure out some issues I'm seeing with mate-media (which
don't appear to be addressed upstream), and noticed that Fedora has
1.26.1 while upstream released 1.27.0 last November (and 1.27.1 last
month). Is MATE still getting support in Fedora? I would have thought
Fedora 38 at
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020, Greg Bailey wrote:
I think I tried building Mate 1.22 on CentOS 7 but ran into issues where it
needed a newer GCC than CentOS 7 provides, and I wasn't up for the complexity
challenge of building it using a different toolchain... :)
CentOS 7 has the softwarecollections
On 6/5/20 10:35 AM, H wrote:
On June 5, 2020 11:21:07 AM EDT, Greg Bailey wrote:
On 6/5/20 2:21 AM, Menanteau wrote:
Hi there,
is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?
There was a demand to update to Mate 1.8 years ago but I didn't see
any answer. Mate 1.24 is currently available.
Thanks
On June 5, 2020 11:21:07 AM EDT, Greg Bailey wrote:
>On 6/5/20 2:21 AM, Menanteau wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?
>>
>> There was a demand to update to Mate 1.8 years ago but I didn't see
>> any answer. Mate 1.24 is currently available.
>>
>> Thanks
>
>I run
On 6/5/20 2:21 AM, Menanteau wrote:
Hi there,
is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?
There was a demand to update to Mate 1.8 years ago but I didn't see
any answer. Mate 1.24 is currently available.
Thanks
I run Mate on both CentOS 7 and CentOS 8.
For CentOS 7, I run Mate 1.20 using
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 05:21, Menanteau wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?
>
>
EPEL is not a distribution and does not have 'plans' to produce things for
certain releases. Nobody is paid to work on EPEL versus paid to work on
Fedora so the packages here are those that
If you (or others) haven't already done so, a bugzilla requesting an
update might be best.
Many times packagers aren't on the epel-devel mailing list, and/or
have it filtered.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 2:22 AM Menanteau wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?
>
> There was
Hi there,
is there a plan to update Mate in EPEL ?
There was a demand to update to Mate 1.8 years ago but I didn't see any
answer. Mate 1.24 is currently available.
Thanks
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the former.
From: Trey Dockendorf [mailto:treyd...@gmail.com]
Sent: 星期四, 四月 26, 2018 2:31
To: EPEL Development List
Subject: [EPEL-devel] Re: incompatibility issue for mate-desktop
Could look into Pulp, https://pulpproject.org/, which I've used in the past to
freeze a copy of EPEL locally to avoid
RHEL release. There are a number of fixes
>> >in 7.4
>> >> >> and 7.5 that are really worth it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pat
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 04/25/2018 09:09 AM, Fred Liu wrote:
>> >> >>
&
gt; >>
>> >> Pat
>> >>
>> >> On 04/25/2018 09:09 AM, Fred Liu wrote:
>> >>
>> >> So abandon SL7.3? Does it mean EPEL doesn't have consistent
>> compatibility?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> &
3? Does it mean EPEL doesn’t have consistent
>> compatibility?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Fred
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 9:57 PM +0800, "Pat Riehecky
on SL7.3? Does it mean EPEL doesn’t have consistent
> compatibility?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 9:57 PM +0800, "Pat Riehecky" <
> riehe...@fnal.gov>
have consistent compatibility?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 9:57 PM +0800, "Pat Riehecky" <riehe...@fnal.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would recommend updating to SL 7.4
>>
ehecky"
<riehe...@fnal.gov<mailto:riehe...@fnal.gov>> wrote:
I would recommend updating to SL 7.4
Pat
On 04/25/2018 08:37 AM, Fred Liu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I used to successfully install mate-desktop on SL7.3 by EPEL7. But
> today, when I tried again, I saw some incompatibility
&
t;Pat Riehecky"
<riehe...@fnal.gov <mailto:riehe...@fnal.gov>> wrote:
I would recommend updating to SL 7.4
Pat
On 04/25/2018 08:37 AM, Fred Liu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I used to successfully install mate-desktop on SL7.3 by EPEL7. But
> tod
Liu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I used to successfully install mate-desktop on SL7.3 by EPEL7. But
> today, when I tried again, I saw some incompatibility
> issues(glib2,gtk3+,etc). And I can successfully install it on OL7.5.
> Is normal? From my understanding, EPEL7 should work in
I would recommend updating to SL 7.4
Pat
On 04/25/2018 08:37 AM, Fred Liu wrote:
Hi,
I used to successfully install mate-desktop on SL7.3 by EPEL7. But
today, when I tried again, I saw some incompatibility
issues(glib2,gtk3+,etc). And I can successfully install it on OL7.5.
Is normal? From my
Hi,
I used to successfully install mate-desktop on SL7.3 by EPEL7. But
today, when I tried again, I saw some incompatibility
issues(glib2,gtk3+,etc). And I can successfully install it on OL7.5.
Is normal? From my understanding, EPEL7 should work in both
OSes.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Fred
Hello and please allow a long term CentOS user to say THANK YOU! for
your efforts to make available a wide variety of packages for RHEL/CentOS.
I am currently running CentOS 7.3 + "X Window system" +
mate-desktop-environment on several machines. Works great! However, the
recent up
On 17 May 2017 at 04:32, Arnold Fabian1 <arnold.fab...@hu.ibm.com> wrote:
> Dear Team
>
> I would have a question regarding EPEL repository for RHEL 7.x
> I can see, that the MATE Desktop 1.18 released in 2017-03-13
> but in the EPEL repository, it is not available yet, o
:
>
>
> Dear Team
>
> I would have a question regarding EPEL repository for RHEL 7.x
> I can see, that the MATE Desktop 1.18 released in 2017-03-13
> but in the EPEL repository, it is not available yet, only the 1.16:
> https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/7/x86_64/m/
>
>
Dear Team
I would have a question regarding EPEL repository for RHEL 7.x
I can see, that the MATE Desktop 1.18 released in 2017-03-13
but in the EPEL repository, it is not available yet, only the 1.16:
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/7/x86_64/m/
Also I would have another question:
F3
= Proposed Self Contained Change: MATE Desktop 1.8 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MATE_1.8
Change owner(s): Dan Mashal dan.mas...@fedoraproject.org, Wolfgang Ulbrich
chat-to...@raveit.de
Update MATE Desktop to version 1.8
== Detailed Description ==
Release 1.8
* New features
What is the prospect of getting mate 1.8 for fedora 20?
Thanks.
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On Mar 14, 2014 7:52 AM, Brian Millett bmill...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the prospect of getting mate 1.8 for fedora 20?
Prospect is good.
We're QAing on Rawhide at the moment.
Dan
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:09:42 -0700
Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mar 14, 2014 7:52 AM, Brian Millett bmill...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the prospect of getting mate 1.8 for fedora 20?
Prospect is good.
We're QAing on Rawhide at the moment.
Dan
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.i686 : Displays menus for MATE Desktop
...
mate-window-manager-1.5.2-7.fc18.i686 : MATE Desktop window manager
...
(Duplicates removed from output)
But when we check who owns that dir, we get zip:
$ yum provides /usr/share/mate/
No Matches found
Another one:
$ yum provides /usr/lib/caja/*
mate
One additional question on the feature... from the feature page:
Fedora 16/17/18 are already running MATE Desktop 1.5.5 which is the
development release of 1.6
Is there a reason for a development release being pushed to stable
releases?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:52:28 -0800
Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Adam Williamson
awill...@redhat.com wrote:
...snip...
I note this feature doesn't seem to incorporate adding a
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:21:15 -0800
Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Kevin.
MATE 1.6 + Compiz spin submitted last night.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MATE_%2B_Compiz_Spin
Live image available for testing here:
http://bitchx.ca/Image-FedoraMateCompiz.iso
Have at
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:21:15 -0800
Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you Kevin.
MATE 1.6 + Compiz spin submitted last night.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MATE_%2B_Compiz_Spin
Live image available for
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:52:28 -0800
Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Adam Williamson
awill...@redhat.com wrote:
...snip...
I note this feature doesn't seem to incorporate adding a MATE spin
- is a separate feature page proposed for that, or is it
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 18:26 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/MATE-Desktop-1.6 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop-1.6
Feature owner(s): Dan Mashal dan.mashal AT fedoraproject DOT org
MATE Desktop is based on GNOME 2 and provides an intuitive and attractive
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 18:26 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/MATE-Desktop-1.6 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop-1.6
Feature owner(s): Dan Mashal dan.mashal AT fedoraproject DOT org
MATE
= Features/MATE-Desktop-1.6 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop-1.6
Feature owner(s): Dan Mashal dan.mashal AT fedoraproject DOT org
MATE Desktop is based on GNOME 2 and provides an intuitive and attractive
desktop to Linux users who seek a simple, easy to use traditional
= Features/MATE-Desktop-1.6 =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop-1.6
Feature owner(s): Dan Mashal dan.mashal AT fedoraproject DOT org
MATE Desktop is based on GNOME 2 and provides an intuitive and attractive
desktop to Linux users who seek a simple, easy to use traditional
for the positive contributions you made,
and
in
your future endeavors.
-- rex
No mercy, no thanks.
Why do you Mr. Rex Dieter as sponsor accept rude speaking, and
racist
remarks from Dan Marchal?
'Portuguese n00b'
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-doc-utils/issues/3
That thread
the expression on
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=840149#c5 on 14-07-2012
And he asked to have his account 1 month ago :
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3399 , on
25-07-2012.
The same day, he also posted that about the issue :
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate
, as
now Dan's
perception of you (and now potentially others) will be colored as
hostile.
Hi,
I'm one of MATE Desktop upstream developers. I'm sorry for my intrusion
here, but I feel the need to write my opinion in this thread. We already
worked with a lot of distros maintainers and always worked
taking your greivances public, as
now Dan's
perception of you (and now potentially others) will be colored as
hostile.
Hi,
I'm one of MATE Desktop upstream developers. I'm sorry for my intrusion
here, but I feel the need to write my opinion in this thread. We already
worked with a lot
you Mr. Rex Dieter as sponsor accept rude speaking, and
racist
remarks from Dan Marchal?
'Portuguese n00b'
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-doc-utils/issues/3
That thread contains no instance of Dan calling you a Portuguese n00b.
It contains only an instance of you accusing Dan of having
I think it's time to stop making argument or statement.This email really
makes me feel confused.
I understand Rave's state of mind.Well,I think you have 2 choices, leave or
just go ahead.
But you don't want to leave,so please do some other works,not only the mate
desktop.
I hope you can feel
, and
in
your future endeavors.
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No mercy, no thanks.
Why do you Mr. Rex Dieter as sponsor accept rude speaking, and
racist
remarks from Dan Marchal?
'Portuguese n00b'
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-doc-utils/issues/3
That thread contains no instance of Dan
endeavors.
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No mercy, no thanks.
Why do you Mr. Rex Dieter as sponsor accept rude speaking, and racist
remarks from Dan Marchal?
'Portuguese n00b'
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-doc-utils/issues/3
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working group for guidance, advice, and
mediation. (my fault for being too dense for not suggesting it
earlier, sorry).
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No need for mediation because i will stay in in fedora community,
but working at Mate-Desktop is impossible for me until Dan Mashal to
refrain from taking on this project
On 08/23/2012 04:53 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Rave it wrote:
For your information.
I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project for f18 because
I can understand your frustration, and that you and Dan had trouble
communicating and working together.
I do wish to thank you for the positive
speaking, and racist
remarks from Dan Marchal?
'Portuguese n00b'
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-doc-utils/issues/3
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'Portuguese n00b'
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-doc-utils/issues/3
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speaking, and racist
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'Portuguese n00b'
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-doc-utils/issues/3
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as sponsor accept rude speaking, and racist
remarks from Dan Marchal?
'Portuguese n00b'
https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-doc-utils/issues/3
I don't accept it. Dan reacting poorly is a given, and something he (and I
with him) are working on.
I personally don't feel it helps taking your
Rave it wrote:
For your information.
I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project for f18 because
I can understand your frustration, and that you and Dan had trouble
communicating and working together.
I do wish to thank you for the positive contributions you made, and in your
future
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.edu wrote:
Ri == Rave it chat-to...@raveit.de writes:
Ri For your information. I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project
Ri for f18 because for me it is imposssible to to work together with
Ri Dan Mashal. One
On 08/21/2012 11:50 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
As a reminder, everyone working within the Fedora project is expected to
abide by the code of conduct (http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct).
If there's an interpersonal conflict that can't be resolved by the
individuals or the specific subset
Brendan Jones wrote:
I understand Dan's fairly new to Fedora - perhaps his sponsor should
have a word with him.
Would it be enough to CC Rex? Or should we open a ticket on a trac of
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For your information.
I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project for f18 because for me
it is imposssible to to work together with Dan Mashal.
One of the reason for my decision is this last talk with Dan Mashal
today.
Unterhaltung mit Dan Mashal am Di 21 Aug 2012 10:03:44 CEST:
(10:03
Ri == Rave it chat-to...@raveit.de writes:
Ri For your information. I stoped working for the Mate-Desktop project
Ri for f18 because for me it is imposssible to to work together with
Ri Dan Mashal. One of the reason for my decision is this last talk with
Ri Dan Mashal today.
I've watched
As a reminder, everyone working within the Fedora project is expected to
abide by the code of conduct (http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct).
If there's an interpersonal conflict that can't be resolved by the
individuals or the specific subset of the project involved, please feel
free to
Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
[Reviving an old thread ...]
Indeed this seems to be not just vapourware:
http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?p=119
I don't buy the arguments that MATE is vapourware, but building a new
Gnome-2-like desktop on the Gnome 3 underpinnings obviously is easier
and in the
On Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 01:24:08PM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 12/09/2011 12:50 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 12/09/2011 03:50 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba
2011-12-10 16:36 keltezéssel, Rahul Sundaram írta:
On 12/10/2011 03:30 PM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
u
Not so fast, there was a point in time when
the whole Linux development community
was Linus Torvalds. Live and let live.
You would have a better point there if MATE was a new desktop
2011-12-09 11:34 keltezéssel, Kevin Kofler írta:
and there is a development community.
LOL, a community called Timothy Pearson…
Don't make me laugh.
Kevin Kofler
Not so fast, there was a point in time when
the whole Linux development community
was Linus Torvalds. Live and let live.
Hi.
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:00:55 +0100, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote
Not so fast, there was a point in time when
the whole Linux development community
was Linus Torvalds. Live and let live.
Yes, there was. But it was a) rather short, and b) did not have
a codebase even remotely comparable to the
On 12/10/2011 03:30 PM, Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote:
u
Not so fast, there was a point in time when
the whole Linux development community
was Linus Torvalds. Live and let live.
You would have a better point there if MATE was a new desktop
environment trying to grow a community. GNOME 2.x is a
Am Donnerstag, den 08.12.2011, 19:50 -0800 schrieb Eric Smith:
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of
GNOME 2.
MATE is just replacing gnome with mate everywhere, whether
Hi,
What do you think about Trinity Desktop? I liked KDE3. Is there a
chance to include this DE in Fedora? Unlike the MATE, TD is well
maintained and there is a development community.
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On 09/12/11 07:03, Eric Smith wrote:
I tried switching to Xfce, and found it to be a lot better than Gnome 3,
but it was still missing a lot of things I'm accustomed to in Gnome 2.
I'm not trying to start another advocacy thread. I'm just trying to
package up an alternative for people like
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
What do you think about Trinity Desktop? I liked KDE3. Is there a
chance to include this DE in Fedora?
Please NO! We worked hard on making kdelibs3 apps work well in KDE Plasma 4
sessions. Trying to support Trinity sessions too is going to make a big
mess. Another big
On 12/09/2011 04:12 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 12/09/2011 09:20 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of
GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months to package
On 12/09/2011 03:50 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of
GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months to package the
remaining MATE packages.
Would anyone
On 12/09/2011 05:17 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 12/09/2011 04:12 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 12/09/2011 09:20 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of
GNOME 2
On 12/09/2011 11:58 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
one
developer? I am worried about sustainability.
How can you be worried about maintainability given that we already have
unmaintained and poorly maintained packages in the distribution?
When you have problems, the solution is to fix
On 12/09/2011 12:50 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 12/09/2011 03:50 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of
GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months
On 12/09/2011 05:42 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
On 12/09/2011 11:58 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
one
developer? I am worried about sustainability.
How can you be worried about maintainability given that we
already have
unmaintained and poorly maintained packages in the
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
It is not useful to generalize. There are lots of software components
which aren't actively maintained but are useful to have in the
distribution and all distributions have them however a desktop
environment is a lot of work to maintain (as seen for instance in
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Am 10.12.2011 01:20, schrieb Kevin Kofler:
So I'm sceptical about MATE (seeing what's going on with Trinity)
and I can only strongly discourage attempting to package Trinity.
I agree to that point of view. IMHO MATE is a waste of time and
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of
GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months to package the
remaining MATE packages.
Would anyone like to see the MATE desktop environment
On 12/09/2011 09:20 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of
GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months to package the
remaining MATE packages.
Would
Hello
2011/12/9 Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com:
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of
GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me a few months to package the
remaining MATE packages.
Mate
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 09:24 +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
Hello
2011/12/9 Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com:
I've submitted review requests for the first two packages for the MATE
desktop environment, mate-doc-utils and mate-corba. MATE is a fork of
GNOME 2. I expect that it will take me
Peter Lemenkov wrote:
I'd rather help others with transition to Gnome3, as some active
members of our local
community (Russian Fedora) does.
I've spent months trying to get used to Gnome 3, and had lots of help
from various people, and I still can't stand it. Yes, I know that there
are
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