On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 at 14:39, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 9:30 AM Aoife Moloney wrote:
> >
> > Wiki -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ArmMinimalImageOSBuild
> >
> > This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux.
> > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the
On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 9:30 AM Aoife Moloney wrote:
>
> Wiki -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ArmMinimalImageOSBuild
>
> This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux.
> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> process, proposals are publicly announced in order t
Wiki -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ArmMinimalImageOSBuild
This is a proposed Change for Fedora Linux.
This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
community feedback. This proposal will only be implemen
nd such but in general, a developer can
figure out what will make something work themselves without bothering other
developers.
My outsider look at Yocto OS development seems to have developers either
focusing on specific problem sets: 'make this work on a refrigerator with
this much memo
On Mon, 2023-07-17 at 02:58 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > This is the wrong question, kinda. There is no detailed step-by-step
> > process. The process for creating a compose is, more or less, "push the
> > magic COMPOSE NOW" button. (Okay, there's a *bit* more t
Adam Williamson wrote:
> This is the wrong question, kinda. There is no detailed step-by-step
> process. The process for creating a compose is, more or less, "push the
> magic COMPOSE NOW" button. (Okay, there's a *bit* more to it than that,
> but not a lot). The SOP for it is
> https://docs.pagure
to see what responses
> it would trigger. I must admit that this one is a bit disappointing.
> While I've been building RPMs for Fedora for awhile now, one of the
> things that has eluded me is that the Fedora OS composes seem to be
> very opaque to me. I know enough to understand
le I've been building RPMs for Fedora for awhile now, one of the
things that has eluded me is that the Fedora OS composes seem to be
very opaque to me. I know enough to understand that Koji tags rpm
builds from individual buildroots, but from there, the process to
build the repos and the inst
t responses
it would trigger. I must admit that this one is a bit disappointing.
While I've been building RPMs for Fedora for awhile now, one of the
things that has eluded me is that the Fedora OS composes seem to be
very opaque to me. I know enough to understand that Koji tags rpm
builds fro
Miao, Jun wrote:
> Hi Guys,
First of all, we are not all guys. (I happen to be one though.)
> AFAIK, the Yocto Project is an open source collaboration project that
> provides tools, templates, and methods to help developers create custom
> Linux-based systems for embedded devices.
>
> My confusi
Hi Guys,
AFAIK, the Yocto Project is an open source collaboration project that provides
tools, templates, and methods to help developers create custom Linux-based
systems for embedded devices.
My confusion is that:
1. what`s the tool to make our Fedora Linux 38 released like Yocto?
2. An
On Tue, 2023-01-03 at 21:21 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 1/3/23 18:02, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > But isn't missing inst.rescue boot option [2] ?
>
> That's a different thing. The rescue kernel is only to have all
> kernel
> modules available. The "inst.rescue" mode is available on netinst
> im
On 1/3/23 18:02, Sérgio Basto wrote:
But isn't missing inst.rescue boot option [2] ?
That's a different thing. The rescue kernel is only to have all kernel
modules available. The "inst.rescue" mode is available on netinst
images (and maybe others?) and boots an actual rescue mode that lets
On Tue, 2022-03-01 at 14:37 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Summary--
> Most all Fedora variants (except Cloud) have a GRUB menu entry
> containing the word "rescue". This kernel+initramfs pair are never
> updated for the life of a Fedora installation. And they quickly
> become
> stale as a Fe
If I'm not mistaken, this issue hasn't been resolved...
Since the rescue kernel depends to some extent on the kernel modules
in the root volume, would the right solution be:
- in preuninstall, determine whether the rescue kernel matches the
version being removed, and if so, remove it, and then:
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 08:22:55PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> I'm happy to make this the Fedora Program Manager's responsibility,
> but if RelEng wants to own that, that's fine too. In fact, if it
> doesn't cause RelEng to break into a cold sweat, I'd be happy to be
> added as a maintainer to make
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 04:15:03PM -0700, Stewart Smith via devel wrote:
> Matthew Miller writes:
> > See:
> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-October/048519.html
> >
> >Systemd will set the taint flag 'support-ended' if it det
Nice new feature, i think it should be set
On 11/2/22, Ben Cotton wrote:
> Cosign. We'd definitely want to set it to the "EOL date if we hit the
> early target" so that way we're never EOL less than we say. I do like
> the idea of updating it when the EOL date moves out, but if that gets
> forgot
Cosign. We'd definitely want to set it to the "EOL date if we hit the
early target" so that way we're never EOL less than we say. I do like
the idea of updating it when the EOL date moves out, but if that gets
forgotten it's not a big deal.
I'm happy to make this the Fedora Program Manager's respo
On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 07:02:33PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> See:
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-October/048519.html
>
>Systemd will set the taint flag 'support-ended' if it detects that
>the OS image is past its end-of-s
Matthew Miller writes:
> See:
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-October/048519.html
>
>Systemd will set the taint flag 'support-ended' if it detects that
>the OS image is past its end-of-support date. This date is declared
>in
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 7:09 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> See:
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-October/048519.html
>
>Systemd will set the taint flag 'support-ended' if it detects that
>the OS image is past its end-of-support
See:
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2022-October/048519.html
Systemd will set the taint flag 'support-ended' if it detects that
the OS image is past its end-of-support date. This date is declared
in a new /etc/os-release field SUPPORT_END= descr
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 3:24 PM Justin Forbes wrote:
> I am surprised that the rescue kernel would give an indefinite hang or
> even just a dracut prompt within a release.
The latter case is trivially reproducible on UEFI, with the failure
being that mounting /boot/efi comes *after* switchroot. A
uaranteed to be
safer. What if networking doesn't work in certain circumstances, or
any number of issues that create problems but still "boot". I tend to
hand create a new rescue when I add new hardware which might require
it, but that is about all. One system here has a rescue kernel
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 14:37:38 -0700
Chris Murphy wrote:
> Summary--
> Most all Fedora variants (except Cloud) have a GRUB menu entry
> containing the word "rescue". This kernel+initramfs pair are never
> updated for the life of a Fedora installation. And they quickly become
> stale as a Fed
Summary--
Most all Fedora variants (except Cloud) have a GRUB menu entry
containing the word "rescue". This kernel+initramfs pair are never
updated for the life of a Fedora installation. And they quickly become
stale as a Fedora installation ages. This kernel's modules are
eventually delete
On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 1:40:11 AM WET Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Please keep in mind that Linus Torvalds himself announced his project with
> the words: "It is NOT protable" [sic] "(uses 386 task switching etc),". [1]
> The portability came much later, after major changes (such as rewritin
José Abílio Matos wrote:
> And there it says:
> """
> The Free Software Foundation was initially sceptical of the capabilities
> of Linux as a portable operating system. Initial versions only ran on the
> IBM 386. According to Stallman: "We heard that Linux was not at all
> portable (this may not b
"
>
> That doesn't seem like the kind of respectful, friendly environment that
> Fedora explicitly is trying to foster. And that's why I think the name
> "Fedora", by itself, is better. That name is neutral to the topic of
> whether Linux or GNU/Linux is the
e early 1990's, I don't remember the GNU hackers at the AI lab
> calling their systems GNU/Solaris or GNU/Ultrix or GNU/BSD when they had
> replaced various parts with GNU utilities. The only GNU OS was going to be
> HURD.
Also, a new community developed around systems running
lities.
>
>
> That's partially true, they didn't (as far as I know). But I think they
> viewed that situation -- using a kernel other than their own -- as
> temporary. As far as I know, they referred to their OS as GNU
> consistently, and only started using the varia
rnel other than their own -- as
temporary. As far as I know, they referred to their OS as GNU
consistently, and only started using the variant name GNU/Linux when it
became clear that the arrangement of having a GNU OS with a kernel other
than their own was a long-term arrangement. That all s
On 13/03/21 12:59 -0500, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:00:12 -0500, you wrote:
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 08:13:07PM -0500, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
You aren't going to change not just the 15+ year habits of how people
refer to Fedora, but the even longer habits of how people call
On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 02:09, Gordon Messmer
wrote:
> On 3/9/21 7:43 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> 2. Why Linux and not GNU/Linux? Linux is just a kernel. GNU/Linux is an OS.
>
> Fedora Linux is an OS. Although GNU project utilities are indeed essential,
> Fedora Linux con
On 3/9/21 7:43 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
2. Why Linux and not GNU/Linux? Linux is just a kernel. GNU/Linux is an OS.
Fedora Linux is an OS. Although GNU project utilities are indeed essential,
Fedora Linux consists of more than those plus Linux, and the contributions
of many of those other
le to force the web team to add the word Linux to
every mention of Fedora - but no one else is going to.
Which again brings us to what is the point then?
If you want to differentiate the OS from the project and other stuff,
then you are going to be better off renaming the other stuff than
attempting
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 08:13:07PM -0500, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
> You aren't going to change not just the 15+ year habits of how people
> refer to Fedora, but the even longer habits of how people call Linux
> distributions.
Again, I'm not out to immediately change colloquial usage. Although I *d
Gerald Henriksen wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:21:18 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>I would put it this way: this change _helps recognize_ that Fedora is more
>>than its main product. This isn't new; EPEL has been part of Fedora since
>>the beginning, and CoreOS has been since it replaced Project Atomic.
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 8:13 PM Gerald Henriksen wrote:
>
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:21:18 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >I would put it this way: this change _helps recognize_ that Fedora is more
> >than its main product. This isn't new; EPEL has been part of Fedora since
> >the beginning, and CoreOS has b
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:21:18 -0500, you wrote:
>I would put it this way: this change _helps recognize_ that Fedora is more
>than its main product. This isn't new; EPEL has been part of Fedora since
>the beginning, and CoreOS has been since it replaced Project Atomic.
You want this change to do th
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 01:38:13PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> 3. I think this changes defocuses the Fedora Project from its main product
> (the GNU/Linux distribution) and will ultimately hurts its users (i.e., most
> of us on this mailing list). It is going to turn "Fedora Linux" int
erent
> > things, leading to things like people saying "Oh, that's in CoreOS,
> > not
> > Fedora", where the shorthand is more confusing than helpful.
>
> And I think it makes sense to say that: CoreOS is a very different
> operating
> system from Fedo
they share the GNU/Linux base) and
so should (continue to) have a completely different brand, not Fedora.
>> 2. Why Linux and not GNU/Linux? Linux is just a kernel. GNU/Linux is an
>> OS.
>
> Fedora Linux is an OS. Although GNU project utilities are indeed
> essential, Fedora Lin
Ben Cotton wrote:
> "Fedora" is the name of our project. Our general-purpose Linux
> distribution is "Fedora Linux". Let's refer to it that way in the OS
> itself.
>
> == Owner ==
>
> * Name: [[User:mattdm| Matthew Miller]]
I am opposed to this
1 at 22:21, Alexey A. wrote:
> > Fedora is. Linux isn't. Linux is just an OS kernel
>
> Linux (/ˈlinʊks/ (listen) LEEN-uuks or /ˈlɪnʊks/ LIN-uuks[9]) is a
> family of open-source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux
> kernel.
>
> ср, 10 мар. 2021 г. в 01:35,
> Fedora is. Linux isn't. Linux is just an OS kernel
Linux (/ˈlinʊks/ (listen) LEEN-uuks or /ˈlɪnʊks/ LIN-uuks[9]) is a
family of open-source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux
kernel.
ср, 10 мар. 2021 г. в 01:35, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
:
>
> On 09.03.2021 16:43,
quot;Fedora" and "Fedora Linux" are understood and will be understood in the
same way.
People who are confused now will not stop confusing after renaming.
3. People will not stop talking "Fedora" instead of "Fedora Linux".
There was a very good example about univ
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 01:26:55PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
> If we're going to name the distribution after some of its components,
> why stop at one or two?
...
> It's better to give the whole distribution its own name, and not name
> it after any of its components. Fedora is a software distri
Fedora Linux what it
is. “Linux” is, for better or worse, the commonly-understood phrasing, so let’s
just use that.
[1]
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-is-a-community-fedora-linux-is-our-os/
Only for this reason? erk..
Never mind, just do the changes. I am happy as long "
My vote:
Fedora for the distro some want to rename Fedora Linux
Fedora Project for the all-encompassing collection of things Fedora
And now, back to more important things
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:47:44AM +0500, Vladislav Kazakov wrote:
> I can already see huge misunderstandings outside of mailing lists.
> In my opinion, “Fedora” is better.
Where are you seeing huge misunderstandings? What misunderstandings are
there? Are these misunderstandings the sole reason
I can already see huge misunderstandings outside of mailing lists.
In my opinion, “Fedora” is better.
-1.
Чт, 11 марта 2021 г. в 00:30, Vascom :
> Please, keep simple "Fedora".
>
> Don't make us ridiculous.
>
> I vote -1.
>
> ср, 10 мар. 2021 г., 22:22 Reon Beon via devel <
> devel@lists.fedorap
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 07:21:44PM -, Reon Beon via devel wrote:
> uname -a
>
> Linux fedora 5.12.0-0.rc2.165.fc35.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Mar 6 16:32:15 UTC 2021
> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Shouldn't fedora be capitalized?
No. The 2nd word of the output of "uname -a" is the nodename
(
Please, keep simple "Fedora".
Don't make us ridiculous.
I vote -1.
ср, 10 мар. 2021 г., 22:22 Reon Beon via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org>:
> uname -a
>
> Linux fedora 5.12.0-0.rc2.165.fc35.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Mar 6 16:32:15 UTC
> 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Shouldn't fedora b
uname -a
Linux fedora 5.12.0-0.rc2.165.fc35.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Mar 6 16:32:15 UTC 2021
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Shouldn't fedora be capitalized?
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On 10/03/21 03:22 -, Scott Williams wrote:
I'm +1 on "Fedora Linux". I believe it adds clarity, especially when talking with software
vendors. IE, "I'm running Fedora Linux" is less ambiguous than having to explain that Fedora is
Linux after telling your ISP's support, etc., "I'm running
For me I go with your first suggestion:
Keep it simple for the OS, just fedora, as it already is; and for the
overall effort, Fedora Project. It works already.
Em qua, 10 de mar de 2021 09:27, Björn Persson
escreveu:
> Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> > 2. Why Linux and not GNU/Linux?
part of Fedora Linux, there are many other
> > packages that make Fedora Linux what it is. “Linux” is, for better
> > or worse, the commonly-understood phrasing, so let’s just use that.
>
> [1]
> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-is-a-community-fedora-linux-is-our
nux
> what it is. “Linux” is, for better or worse, the commonly-understood
> phrasing, so let’s just use that.
[1]
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-is-a-community-fedora-linux-is-our-os/
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He / Him / His
Senior Program Manager, Fedora &
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 13:26:55 +0100
Björn Persson wrote:
> It's better to give the whole distribution its own name, and not name
> it after any of its components. Fedora is a software distribution. It
> contains Linux, many GNU components, RPM, MariaDB, Libreoffice and
> lots of other things, but
Hi Matthew Miller,
I got mixed feeling, I understand the reason why but I don't quite
understand why you don't want to use "Fedora GNU/Linux". Read you
comment on others email but the is not much details. Could you explain
again in details? Perhaps explain on Wiki too..
p/s :
- Can we have a
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 09:20:21AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> However, I can imagine that somebody will correct me that the right
> way is to say "I have installed Fedora Linux on my LP", because
> "Fedora" does not exist in this context.
Here's my suggestion: if you're writing formal Fedora Proj
g).
> Adding "Linux" doesn't really give any clarity, since it's implied
> already... and... you can already append it to descriptively add
> clarity without changing the name.
/etc/os-release doesn't give much room for context like that. I mean, if it
helps, you ca
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 01:24:36PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
> I don't think "Linux" conveys the distinction between those things and
> ELN. Someone who hears "Fedora Linux" won't understand that it comprises
> both Workstation and CoreOS but not ELN. It would be better to come up
> with another
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 09:27:49AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> How about changing /etc/redhat-release ? I am specifically asking
> this in the context of Vagrant, which seems to use this file to
> detect Fedora.
That does seem to be set from NAME, and Vagrant does this:
https://github.com/hashi
istribution sucks.
>
> > Overall, ust. no. Deliberately breaking every ansible, chef, or
> > other deployment tools that check /etc/os-release for a consistent
> > operating system reference name is not a benefit to anyone.
>
> Ansible uses ID and VERSION_ID, which are
Matthew Miller wrote:
> Of course, the obvious response is that it hasn't stuck. That might be
> partly true, but it also definitely _has_ for other people (see for example
> the `httpd` package naming in our own repos)
Debian, on the other hand, has an apache2 package, /usr/sbin/apache2,
/etc/apa
Matthew Miller wrote:
> leading to things like
> people saying "Oh, that's in CoreOS, not Fedora", where the shorthand is
> more confusing than helpful.
What should that be instead? "That's in CoreOS, not Linux" is no better.
"That's in Fedora CoreOS, not Fedora Linux" makes no sense either,
becau
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> 2. Why Linux and not GNU/Linux? Linux is just a kernel. GNU/Linux is an OS.
It was very predictable that this argument would happen, and that's why
I've been quite happy that Fedora is just "Fedora" with no "Linux" in
the
DE Plasma Desktop; or use Fedora Linux to refer to
> the OS distribution as a whole.
I don't think "Linux" conveys the distinction between those things and
ELN. Someone who hears "Fedora Linux" won't understand that it comprises
both Workstation and CoreOS but not E
How about changing /etc/redhat-release ? I am specifically asking this
in the context of Vagrant, which seems to use this file to detect Fedora.
Vít
Dne 09. 03. 21 v 19:11 Matthew Miller napsal(a):
On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 07:02:10PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Are we going to move from getfed
I agree with David.
While I am sure that we can fix every bit of the distribution and
documentation to refer to "Fedora Linux", I don't think there is a way
to change people to refer in colloquial language to Fedora, the
operating system, as a Fedora Linux. I'll certainly keep using sentences
Forwarding this announcement to beakerlib contributor - beakerlib, the
library for writing tests for Fedora/RHEL, has rlIsFedora function, so
IMO it parses /etc/os-release somehow.
Dalibor, any potential breakage in beakerlib regarding this change?
On 3/9/21 3:33 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
> ht
And, if Fedora Linux isn't clear enough, we can always abruptly rebrand it to
Fedora Stream in a few months. I don't think that would cause any confusion.
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I'm +1 on "Fedora Linux". I believe it adds clarity, especially when talking
with software vendors. IE, "I'm running Fedora Linux" is less ambiguous than
having to explain that Fedora is Linux after telling your ISP's support, etc.,
"I'm running Fedora."
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On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 9:58 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>
> > "Fedora" is the name of our project. Our general-purpose Linux distribution
> > is "Fedora Linux". Let's refer to it that way in the OS itself.
>
> Does Fedora have some other product? A
> "Fedora" is the name of our project. Our general-purpose Linux distribution
> is "Fedora Linux". Let's refer to it that way in the OS itself.
Does Fedora have some other product? A dessert topping? A floor wax?
Perhaps a hip new dance choreography, taking the wor
On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 05:32:41PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> I agree that it's a little weird at first, but as Ben Cotton said,
> after the first hundred times or so it becomes natural.
This is not necessarily true. Our university IT department changed its
name about a decade ago, from three
t people engage
with "Fedora" the operating system product more frequently than the
"Fedora Project". This is natural, expected, and not necessarily a
problem to correct.
> > If I said "Fedora Linux", I think people would just think I'm being
> >
On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 10:25:31PM +, Ian McInerney wrote:
> This doesn't really sound like something that gets included in a software
> release notes page. Can we have a technical description in the release
> notes as well please? It would be good to explicitly say that the
> key changed in th
;, but it's
> still going to cause issues for some users.
That's why I'm filing this for F35, so there's time to change. Scripts that
are looking at NAME rather than ID aren't following the spec correctly and
should be updated.
> Is there any plan for the Fedora Pro
d "Fedora Linux", I think people would just think I'm being
> redundant, because "Fedora" implies the Linux kernel (in addition to the
> other OS components it ships with).
I don't see people being confused in this way by, say, "Arch Linux" or
"L
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 2:34 PM Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora_Linux_in_os-release
>
> == Summary ==
>
> "Fedora" is the name of our project. Our general-purpose Linux
> distribution is "Fedora Linux". Let's refer to
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 10:12 PM Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Ben Cotton said:
> > This change isn't big — it is simply expanding
> >
> > * NAME=Fedora to NAME="Fedora Linux" and
> > * PRETTY_NAME="Fedora Linux [##] ([edition or spin])
Once upon a time, Ben Cotton said:
> This change isn't big — it is simply expanding
>
> * NAME=Fedora to NAME="Fedora Linux" and
> * PRETTY_NAME="Fedora Linux [##] ([edition or spin])
>
> in the file /etc/os-release.
I have seen third-party install scr
Once upon a time, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel said:
> But we are still using GCC, GNU coreutils, glibc, libstdc++, etc.
> That's why we cannot name an OS without the GNU prefix.
Sure we can. There is absolutely no GNU requirement that you embed
their name in your name (and it'd b
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 12:27 PM José Abílio Matos wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 4:34:48 PM WET Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> > Fedora is. Linux isn't. Linux is just an OS kernel. It cannot be used
> > without helpers like GNU libraries and utilities.
>
> Fe
Another pointless change that adds nothing and will cause breakages.
Shouldn't we be given a vote on this?
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Ben Cotton píše v Út 09. 03. 2021 v 09:33 -0500:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Fedora_Linux_in_os-release
>
> == Summary ==
>
> "Fedora" is the name of our project. Our general-purpose Linux
> distribution is "Fedora Linux". Let's refer to i
The change is indeed not big and it will probably not change the fact that most
people will still refer to "Fedora" as "Fedora" but I agree that it is a good
move to name and distinguish things properly in the documentation and system
information.
It was always odd to me that RHEL was called "R
On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 07:02:10PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Are we going to move from getfedora.org to getfedoralinux.org?
Websites/design are still looking at the plan for the next generation of the
user-oriented "brochure" websites. Remember, we don't have to solve all
things immediately and
Dne 09. 03. 21 v 18:05 Matthew Miller napsal(a):
On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 05:58:47PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Are we going to change also our logo to be consistent?
As part of the new logo rollout, in places where it makes sense, yes.
Are we going to move from getfedora.org to getfedoralin
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 at 12:46, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On 09.03.2021 18:20, DJ Delorie wrote:
> > Feel free to start your own distro with whatever name
> > *you* choose;-)
>
> I'm Fedora maintainer too, so I have the right to show my point of view
> on thi
On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 12:40:50PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> I personally think this is a fine change to make. FESCo can certainly
> approve the mechanics of this change, but I expect a Fedora Council
> approval at the project level to correspond to this. I don't see a
> ticket for this there, and
On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 12:38 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
>
> On 09. 03. 21 15:33, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > ...
> > * Trademark approval: Not required. Note that this has been cleared by
> > Fedora Legal.
>
> As a change proposal, this will need to pass a FESCo vote. From FESCo
> perspective, I think we s
On 09. 03. 21 15:33, Ben Cotton wrote:
...
* Trademark approval: Not required. Note that this has been cleared by Fedora
Legal.
As a change proposal, this will need to pass a FESCo vote. From FESCo
perspective, I think we should make sure it doesn't break stuff (and many have
already checked
On 09.03.2021 18:20, DJ Delorie wrote:
Feel free to start your own distro with whatever name
*you* choose;-)
I'm Fedora maintainer too, so I have the right to show my point of view
on this issue.
--
Sincerely,
Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 4:34:48 PM WET Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> Fedora is. Linux isn't. Linux is just an OS kernel. It cannot be used
> without helpers like GNU libraries and utilities.
Fedora is the project.
How do you distinguish the project from the distribution?
AFAICS
t; > change should not change the behavior of this two projects.
>
> libguestfs parses os-release to identify guest OS, but it only uses
> the ID field for functional logic, and PRETTY_NAME merely as an
> informative value. So there's no risk of regression to virt image
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