Re: Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread John Watlington
On May 2, 2008, at 1:46 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: > do the new XO builds point to "schoolserver" instead of > update.laptop.org? I haven't checked that in forever.\ No, that is where they search for the identity manager, which provides them with the jabber server to use. > if they point to schools

Re: Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread Bryan Berry
do the new XO builds point to "schoolserver" instead of update.laptop.org? I haven't checked that in forever. if they point to schoolserver for jabber server, then there is no problem On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 01:25 -0400, John Watlington wrote: > This probably means you don't have the school server s

Re: Touchpad Bugs

2008-05-01 Thread Michael Stone
I forgot to highlight an excellent suggestion made by Mitchell Charity on #2804: "Consider using the grab-key+dpad or grab-key+arrows as mouse input." Could someone please provide a cost-benefit evaluation of this suggestion? Thanks, Michael ___ Dev

Touchpad Bugs

2008-05-01 Thread Michael Stone
Based on feedback from Carla, Bryan, and Kim, I recently undertook a general review of touchpad, glide-sensor, and pen-tablet related tickets. My grim results are listed in some detail in my post-script. Here are some general observations: 1) The four major touchpad bug owners are jg, bernie, mlj,

Re: Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread John Watlington
This probably means you don't have the school server set up properly somehow. You need the identity manager running on a machine which is discoverable by the laptop at schoolserver in the default DNS domain returned by the DHCP server. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_Identity_Manager When

Re: jumpy cursor problem and sugar issue

2008-05-01 Thread Bryan Berry
dilinger/andres does this build have the latest touchpad driver? http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/olpc3/build8/devel_jffs2/ I will download it and try it out On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 17:54 -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:34:30 +0200 > Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL P

Re: [Olpc-open] jumpy cursor problem and sugar issue

2008-05-01 Thread Bryan Berry
On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 09:36 -0400, Steve Holton wrote: > Do you have a way to accurately measure relative humidity? > currenlty, no. something I should investigate. > On the other hand, I have seen (and fixed) a very similar behavior on > a NintendoDS touchpad which was caused by dust or sand b

Re: Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread Bryan Berry
> A caveat here: Unless the machine is reflashed, the basic ID in jabber > will remain the same (the laptop keys are the same.) > > Cheers, > wad In my experience it remains something like update.laptop.org or ship2.laptop.org even after server registration. IMHO this is the single biggest pro

Re: Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread John Watlington
On May 2, 2008, at 12:50 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: > >> For any number of laptops greater than 20, we recommend that they >> be registered with a school (presence) server, so that they don't use >> salut (clique). This is REALLY true when using active antennas, but >> still true when using access

Re: Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread Bryan Berry
> For any number of laptops greater than 20, we recommend that they > be registered with a school (presence) server, so that they don't use > salut (clique). This is REALLY true when using active antennas, but > still true when using access points. > > wad Wad, will registering w/ the school s

Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread John Watlington
> On May 2, 2008, at 12:24 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: >> I have an unproven theory that the __LINK-LOCAL__ XMPP traffic >> (clique) can >> disable networking on XO's when you get more than 40 XO's in a small >> space and using AP's. This is just from anecdotal experience not >> serious >> researc

notes from first few days at Bashuki and Bishwamitra

2008-05-01 Thread Bryan Berry
what Rabi has put together http://blog.olenepal.org/index.php/archives/282 Bryan Kathmandu ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread Bryan Berry
forgot to clarify I have an unproven theory that the __LINK-LOCAL__ XMPP traffic (clique) can disable networking on XO's when you get more than 40 XO's in a small space and using AP's. This is just from anecdotal experience not serious research. On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 07:48 +0545

Cursor does not move left/right using touchpad on 2.6.22-20080123.4 and newer master kernels

2008-05-01 Thread Denver Gingerich
On 2.6.22-20080123.4 and newer master kernels (specifically 2.6.22-20080123.4, 2.6.25-20080430.1, 2.6.25-20080501.2, and 2.6.25-20080501.3), the cursor cannot move from side to side with the touchpad, only up and down. Using a USB mouse works fine. Here is an example X session: 1. start X, cursor

Occasional mmc0 timeout on 2.6.25 master kernels

2008-05-01 Thread Denver Gingerich
When booting 2.6.25 master kernels (specifically seen on 20080501.2 and 20080501.3) from an SD card, the following error occurs every 5th boot or so: [ 3.512185] Waiting 2sec before mounting root device... [ 5.574603] VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p1" or unknown-block(0,0) [ 5.577210] Pleas

udevsettle takes 33.5 seconds on 2.6.25 master kernels

2008-05-01 Thread Denver Gingerich
Using any of the 2.6.25 master kernels (tested specifically 20080501.3, 20080501.2, and 20080430.1), the /sbin/udevsettle command in the udev startup script takes about 33.5 seconds to complete. The 33.5-second pause occurs after the following kernel log lines have been printed to the screen: ...

Re: Adobe opens Flash--How much?

2008-05-01 Thread John Gilmore
Part of the fun of reading press releases and legal arguments is figuring out what they deliberately left out. In Adobe's case, gnash and swfdec were conspicuously not mentioned. The closest they came was here: http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/faq/index.html ... we want to ensure the i

Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread Bryan Berry
>This, or the laptops will have to remain in English. I don't think >this >is acceptable for the municipality. Also, OLPC support for regular >builds >at this time is limited to one new release every 6 months. Sorry to chime in so late, but the Italian team can change the language in the firmwar

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-05-01 Thread Jordan Crouse
On 02/05/08 01:14 +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 01:35:21AM +0200, Reinier Heeres wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The problem you encountered was apparently caused by the compiler > > warning. > > Thanks -- that was it! > > > Renaming all instances of 'round' with something else

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-05-01 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 01:35:21AM +0200, Reinier Heeres wrote: > Hi, > > The problem you encountered was apparently caused by the compiler > warning. Thanks -- that was it! > Renaming all instances of 'round' with something else resulted > in the following here (also a C2): > > [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-05-01 Thread Reinier Heeres
Hi, The problem you encountered was apparently caused by the compiler warning. Renaming all instances of 'round' with something else resulted in the following here (also a C2): [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ./calibrator 431 4M callog Calibrator v0.9e (by [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.cwi.nl/~manegold/

Re: Too much "sugar" and too little "coffee": The real risks of failure for the OLPC project

2008-05-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/5/1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > XOs are deployed (by Governments) without following the original principles > > This means big risk of failure for the educational project. IF in the next 3 > years there is no Sugar, and there is no OLPC, the whole educative project > can survi

Re: [bytesforall_readers] Can we rescue OLPC from Windows?: RMS

2008-05-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
I am in the middle of this controversy, having succeeded in engaging Nicholas Negroponte in a conversation. He still doesn't answer the question you ask him, so it's going to take a little doing. Nicholas has been diagnosed as dyslexic, and I suspect that he also has Attention Deficit, as I do. ADH

Re: Signed build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread Walter Bender
> There's a deployment guide that gives a lot of good advice, but it > is not a public document and I only have an old draft of it. If you are referring to the Deployment Guide that I wrote, it is posted in the wiki: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_Guide enjoy. -walter On Thu, May 1, 2008

Re: Signed build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Giulia D'Amico wrote: > Bernie, > > It's great your support for Sugar, but before taking any decision, > please be avare that the Municipality of Florence in primis but also all > those financing the program in the city never make this kind of request. > The Muncipality of Florence needs to kn

Re: Oops on olpc_bat_init with 2.6.25 kernel

2008-05-01 Thread Denver Gingerich
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:05:01 -0400 > "Denver Gingerich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I get the following kernel oops (and resulting panic) when starting my > > G1G1 XO with the 2.6.25-20080426.1.olpc.6f666d7c2ba504e

Too much "sugar" and too little "coffee": The real risks of failure for the OLPC project

2008-05-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XOs are deployed (by Governments) without following the original principles This means big risk of failure for the educational project. IF in the next 3 years there is no Sugar, and there is no OLPC, the whole educative project can survive... wounded... but it will survive. The ideas (p

Re: Qusetion Re:Suspend

2008-05-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/5/1 Chris Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am running the most recent joyrides, I find the suspend feature > indispensable. I notice, however, that during suspend the laptop is still > using mesh networking. I understand this is a desired feature, but is there > anyway to turn this off? htt

Qusetion Re:Suspend

2008-05-01 Thread Chris Barrett
First off thanks to whoever takes the time to answer this. I am running the most recent joyrides, I find the suspend feature indispensable. I notice, however, that during suspend the laptop is still using mesh networking. I understand this is a desired feature, but is there anyway to turn this o

Organization was Re: A technical assessment of porting "Sugar" to Windows.)

2008-05-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A general observation about organizational behavior: > > Organizations do not act coherently to nearly the same extent as > individual humans. Individuals change their minds, act in ways > inconsistent with their state

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-05-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/4/30 Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The video that Scott are saying are available at > http://twiki.softwarelivre.org/bin/view/TV That URL actually seems to point to the FISL8 videos; the OLPC-relevant ones I've mirrored at http://download.laptop.org/content/conf/20070414-f

Re: flash specs

2008-05-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Rob Savoye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andres Salomon wrote: > > > Adobe was clearly responding to Nicholas's cry for flash on the XO. ;) > > I doubt that... although they are also dropping all licensing fees. As Hmm. To my understanding, the licensing fees w

Re: Oops on olpc_bat_init with 2.6.25 kernel

2008-05-01 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:05:01 -0400 "Denver Gingerich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I get the following kernel oops (and resulting panic) when starting my > G1G1 XO with the 2.6.25-20080426.1.olpc.6f666d7c2ba504e kernel: > Thanks for reporting this; it's fixed in the latest master kernel. __

Re: Gamepad and Rocker Images?

2008-05-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben writes: > > We're actually going to be putting some more > > effort behind handheld mode in the relatively near future > > From my point of view, better button support is an ESSENTIAL part > of making the OLPC e

Re: Adobe opens Flash--How much?

2008-05-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/5/1 Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What the adobe announcement includes other than removing restrictions on > using the specs and protocols is the ability (apparently) to distribute > "adobe flash player for devices" and "adobe AIR for devices" for free. > Since the flash player is a li

Re: Ideas for testers (what needs testing?)

2008-05-01 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi all, In the wiki there are testing guides that could do as reference for Colors and other activities. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_testing_guide. 2008/5/1 Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Actually I should mention that Colors! has a bug list going on its > Development page: > >

grinch filer maintenance window this weekend 20080503

2008-05-01 Thread Henry Hardy
We have completed making backups of everything in grinch:/mnt/filer. Accordingly we are planning to take down grinch at noon EDT Saturday May 3, 2008 to install the new disks into the coraid 1521 array. Grinch will be up and down unpredictably over the weekend so please don't plan to do anything s

Re: Adobe opens Flash--How much?

2008-05-01 Thread Carol Lerche
What the adobe announcement includes other than removing restrictions on using the specs and protocols is the ability (apparently) to distribute "adobe flash player for devices" and "adobe AIR for devices" for free. Since the flash player is a lightweight implementation that incorporates codecs,

Re: Gamepad and Rocker Images?

2008-05-01 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Eben writes: > We're actually going to be putting some more > effort behind handheld mode in the relatively near future From my point of view, better button support is an ESSENTIAL part of making the OLPC easier to use than it has been. One intent for the OLPC is "to replace textbooks". Good "

Re: Adobe opens Flash--How much?

2008-05-01 Thread Rob Savoye
Edward Cherlin wrote: > Rob, could you cut through the marketese and give us a breakdown of > what this Adobe announcement really means for Gnash, if anything? It > seems to say that developers can use the SWF spec to write players for > the first time, not just content generators. We're still f

Adobe opens Flash--How much?

2008-05-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
Rob, could you cut through the marketese and give us a breakdown of what this Adobe announcement really means for Gnash, if anything? It seems to say that developers can use the SWF spec to write players for the first time, not just content generators. Notice that Apple and OLPC are not mentioned.

Re: flash specs

2008-05-01 Thread Rob Savoye
Andres Salomon wrote: > Adobe was clearly responding to Nicholas's cry for flash on the XO. ;) I doubt that... although they are also dropping all licensing fees. As far as the Gnash team can tell, while this does remove some of the legal issues around flash, we're far past the point the relea

flash specs

2008-05-01 Thread Andres Salomon
For those who have not yet heard: http://lwn.net/Articles/280620/ Adobe was clearly responding to Nicholas's cry for flash on the XO. ;) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Gamepad and Rocker Images?

2008-05-01 Thread Eben Eliason
dialog-accept and dialog-cancel match the check and x handheld buttons. It might also be reasonable to use the go-left/right/up/down icons in the theme for the rocker. They share the same stroked arrow, though of course have a standard circular shape instead of the pie -slice form of the rocker.

Re: olpc build environment

2008-05-01 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Bill, > Can you advise, is the current build environment still Fedora 6 as > suggested on this wiki page: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rebuilding_OLPC_kernel > or have you moved to something newer? Yes, we're still using FC6 on our build server. I built a kernel with F8 yesterday

olpc build environment

2008-05-01 Thread Bill Mccormick
Hi folks, Can you advise, is the current build environment still Fedora 6 as suggested on this wiki page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rebuilding_OLPC_kernel or have you moved to something newer? thanks, Bill McCormick Open innovation lab Nortel ESN 393-6298 External (613) 763-6298

Re: [Production] Amharic input

2008-05-01 Thread J.M. Maurer
Which Write version are we talking about here exactly? I know the Write version in sugar-jhbuild includes a big Amharic IM patch from Tomas Frydrych, which I doubt is in any of the production builds at the moment. Maybe that solves part of the problem? As for the context menu: it was removed follo

Re: [Production] Amharic input

2008-05-01 Thread Kim Quirk
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard is: KEYTABLE="us" XKB_MODEL="olpc" XKB_LAYOUT="us,et" XKB_VARIANT="olpc2,basic" I'll add this to the bug report as well... Arjun and Mitch have already responded that this is correct. kim On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 1:53 AM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kim

Re: [Production] Amharic input

2008-05-01 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
The XKB layout itself is not enough. But XKB + XIM is enough, as far as I can tell. So the choice is actually between XKB/us + GtkIM and XKB/am + XIM. The latter seems more universal - it is not bound to particular toolkit. Sergey > Excuse my ignorance; I'm not familiar with Amharic requirements

Re: [Server-devel] FAQ software

2008-05-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
2008/5/1 Aaron Huslage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Faq-o-Matic used to work great. Yes, it used to. By modern standards, a wiki still wins big time, and we will be shipping mediawiki, and it is one less webapp to sugarise. cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Archite

Re: ds-backup.py - confusion

2008-05-01 Thread Ivan Krstić
On May 1, 2008, at 2:57 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > I'm no Python wiz (that's well known ;-) ) but I can't get > ds-backup.py to do anything for me... :-/ Hopefully these questions > are not too clueless... The line that executes write_index_since is commented out. You'll want to uncomment it.