Re: anyone want XOrduino or XO Stick bare boards

2017-03-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I have a bunch of these as well, and even a few sets of components. Like Paul, I put together another one every so often when I need a microcontroller for a project, but I'm happy to share my stash with other good homes. --scott On Mar 10, 2017 7:13 PM, "Paul Fox" wrote: > paul wrote: > > doi

Re: Duolingo and literacy

2015-07-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
SJ and I did get a chance to follow up with him afterward and suggest that they might considering teaching English literacy directly to non-native speakers (as we did in our Ethiopia pilot, rather than only teaching students in their native language; of course DuoLingo doesn't support a large numbe

Duolingo and literacy

2015-07-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'm in a presentation by Luis von Ahn, founder of DuoLingo, and I asked him if he had any plans to expand to literacy. He replied that they will be releasing a "reading and typing" (not writing, which he thought had poor ROI) app next year. This makes me extremely excited. --scott PS. I should

Re: Fwd: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
and activities. It is based > on 13.2.0 hardware support. > > One of the Sugar changes might be considered hardware support; > compatibility with WPA Enterprise and hidden SSID access points. > There might be others, I haven't checked. > > There are no hardware chan

Re: Fwd: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
A related question. I'll try to phrase this delicately -- what's the relationship between Walter's "Sugar 100" build and the latest OLPC kernel? Can I safely assume that SugarLabs is the current keeper of the flame and has all the latest hardware-support bits (I hope so!). Gonzalo pointed me to a

Fwd: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Anyone have any suggestions for my six year old friend? IIRC startup volume is persistent, but I can't remember how it is adjusted. The rest might be helped by upgrading to the latest XO4 build? --scott -- Forwarded message -- From: "Douglas Rogers" Date: Nov 24, 2013 12:00 PM Su

Popular Science article on OLPC project.

2013-07-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
The following mostly-critical article was mentioned on IRC: http://www.popsci.com/gadgets/article/2013-07/one-laptop-childs-de-evolution It's worth keeping the criticisms in mind while working to invalidate them. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net )

Sugar Collaboration with a Tow Truck

2013-07-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I mentioned this project a while ago on IRC, and cjb has spread it around, but manuq reminded me that I never actually posted it to a mailing list. The mozilla Tow Truck project: https://towtruck.mozillalabs.com/ is a very nice framework for real-time collaboration in the context of web apps. I

Issues from my 6-yr-old beta tester.

2013-03-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
The build I installed on my beta-tester's XO4 is about a month old. I'm hoping the following are known issues, and all I have to do is update the build. (Can I use olpc-update to do that?) * The sound in Scratch and Memorize is scrambled; sound appears to be piped from /dev/random and "hurts my e

Re: Shipping bigger fonts by default for greater glyph coverage

2012-09-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
IIRC its only the CJK fonts which really bloat the build. There's an old bug in trac which discussed fonts at length; it might be worth digging that up to ensure we're still covering all the languages we were covering then. --scott On Sep 5, 2012 6:58 PM, "Chris Leonard" wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
-0400, Walter Bender wrote: > > File a ticket and someone may jump in to tackle it. > > > > -walter > > > > see http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11004 > > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Martin Langhoff > > wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 a

Re: Setting the time

2012-08-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > In any case if OLPC or Sugarlabs wants to formally integrate NTP services > into our products, we should be polite and ask ntp.pool.org if we need our > own vendor subdomain. These allow the NTP pool to shut off misbehaving > clients wit

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Surely we can distinguish secured from unsecured laptops and allow unsecured laptops to set the date? I know I implemented this once... --scott -- ( http://cscott.net ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listi

Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
A friend has 11.3.0 installed on his son's XO 1.5. The kid complained that the date was wrong on his XO, and he couldn't figure out how to set it. Indeed, the "Time and Date" control panel only has time zone selection, and no sort of network time program seems to be included in the build. Was th

XO Sticks and XOrduino

2012-08-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I have about 20 XO Sticks and XOrduinos to give away to developers. Details at: http://cananian.livejournal.com/66654.html --scott -- ( http://cscott.net ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: XO-1.75 OpenFirmware serial terminal

2012-08-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:44 PM, John Watlington wrote: > I'd love to see serial terminal preloaded, but also acknowledge that I'm the > one pushing against a 2MB SPI Flash ROM. How about specifying > a location in the main build, where another 20KB of example OFW code > isn't as important ?

Re: Engadget post on XO Touch

2012-07-31 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Presumably with the standard multi-touch X support, which is landing in Linux all over. That's how the XO-3 worked, at least, although that was traditional capacitive touch; I don't think there's an actual Neonode driver in existence anywhere yet. --scott On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Bert F

Re: Developer XO laptop loan or buy - Speakeasy project

2012-06-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Lester Leong > wrote: > > Scott - could you point me in the right direction as far as a good > > JS/HTML5 framework? > > Keep in mind that _today_ XOs don't ship with a workable JS runtime > environment ot

Re: Developer XO laptop loan or buy - Speakeasy project

2012-06-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Lester Leong wrote: > As for Javascript, how? Javascript can't handle backends without some > significant running around - everything's gotta be database driven. > I think you need to look again at modern Javascript/HTML5 toolkits. There are databases. There are

Re: Developer XO laptop loan or buy - Speakeasy project

2012-06-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
..and if you can replace the php with javascript, your life will be even easier. ;) --scott On 6/12/12, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: >> >> >> Another thing is, with regards to webapp implementation - I have >> thought of using PHP/HTML5/Javascript. >> > > > If you can replace PHP by python, your live w

Re: Developer XO laptop loan or buy - Speakeasy project

2012-06-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi Lester, > > On Mon, Jun 11 2012, Lester Leong wrote: > > I think it could just be as easy as having a collection of multimedia > > and gamifying it. I thought of having a set of flashcards with audio - > > then many things could be done with

Short paper on Nell (XO-3)

2012-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Chris Ball, Michael Stone, and I submitted a short paper about Nell's design for the 2012 Interaction Design and Children conference. It contains a much more coherent description of our ideas and goals than the random fragments at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nell. The paper is posted at http://csco

Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Just to reinforce a few points which maybe might not be clear to people who haven't played with the new hardware: 1) the switch point is set that *you cannot tell when we turn the backlight off*. Ie, the threshold is so high that by the time we turn it off, you couldn't never have told whether th

Re: 11.3.1 build 10 released for XO-1.75

2011-11-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > The "suspense resume" build, featuring suspend resume that may or may > not resume. IIRC, some of the resume crashes are in fact suspend crashes. So it may not even suspend. More suspense! --scott --       ( http://cscott.net ) ___

Re: XO-1.75 relative performance

2011-11-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
And note that Jon's original advice was based on the absence of *EGL* support in clutter at the present time. The fact that you can run/not run gnome-shell on desktops with full *GL* support is not relevant. This thread has diverged. GTK3 is not gnome3 is not gnome-shell; EGL is not GL; Sugar is

Re: XO-1.75 relative performance

2011-11-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:49 AM, wrote: > For what its worth, the XO-1.75 is currently about half the speed of the XO1.5 > > Measured with Turtle Art > > repeat 5000 >  fwd 100 >  back 100 > print time > > but as said, its early days for the 1.75 with optimization to come Yeah, this is almost ce

Re: [OLPC-AU] XO-1.75 relative performance

2011-11-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Graphics drivers aren't fully optimized yet for XO-1.75, and we're not using hardware floating point at all in our builds yet, so measurements using present builds may greatly undersell the XO-1.75's capabilities.We're working on it! The ARM chipset is very similar to that used in http://www.v

"Narrative Interfaces" at OLPC

2011-06-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I just posted an announcement for some invited talks we're having at OLPC's new offices this Friday: http://cananian.livejournal.com/64747.html It will all be live-streamed at: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cscottnet --scott --       ( http://cscott.net )

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Out

2011-06-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:11 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > Don Hopkins worked on a PostScript-based window system (HyperLook) > that would let you "flip over" an object on the screen to see "behind > it" a control panel with the guts of its implementation visible.  You > could modify those, then "flip

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Alan Kay wrote: > Smalltalk actually got started by thinking about a way to make a child's > Logo-like language with objects and pattern matching that could express its > own operating system and environment. > > It is very tricky to retain/maintain readability (s

Re: Raspberry Pi $25 computer

2011-05-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
To sweeten the pot, I'm offering a delicious stone soup for anyone who those who pitch in on the port. You need only supply a few extra ingredients. --scott On May 21, 2011 10:35 PM, wrote: > FYI. Anybody who would like to port Sugar to a $25 computer (requiring > only monitor, mouse, and keybo

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'm familiar with the processors designed for specific high-level languages. There was another generation of them built for Java (microblaze, picoblaze, etc) and some of those are even still commercially significant (they run Java subsets on smart cards). I'm not terribly interested in those proc

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Out

2011-05-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 2:28 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > separation.  This is why they never learn to modify the real programs > that hide behind the fluffy interfaces on their real XO computers. I hope to show you a system where the real program *is* the fluffy interface (and vice versa). I'm not

Re: [IAEP] Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Alan Kay wrote: > This is nice! > > Smalltalk actually got started by thinking about a way to make a child's > Logo-like language with objects and pattern matching that could express its > own operating system and environment. > > It is very tricky to retain/maint

Re: Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2011/5/20 NoiseEHC : > 1. Why do the bytecode stuff? JS seems to be a perfectly good code > representation to me and it can be run much faster compared to a naive > bytecode interpreter or compiler written without the resources of the > Chrome/V8 team. It's true. As described in my blog post, the

Turtles All The Way Down

2011-05-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I've done a little more work on "Turtles All The Way Down", which I (very briefly) discussed at EduJam. I actually wrote a garbage collector in TurtleScript for TurtleScript on Sunday. Brief writeup here: http://cananian.livejournal.com/64140.html and exhaustive mind-numbing detail here: ht

Re: The next four weeks

2011-04-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 1:56 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:09 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> I've posted a four week plan for XO-3 software exploration at >> http://cananian.livejournal.com/62667.html >> >> Briefly: >> April 4-8: A

Re: XO-1.5 users: need your SD card data

2011-04-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Note that Quozl's version also works better on images created with image-builder tools which delete files during the image creation process (ie, on just about anything which involves mounting the filesystem image during the image creation process; as opposed to (say) squashfs, which is a read-only

Re: XO-1.5 users: need your SD card data

2011-04-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:10 PM, James Cameron wrote: > As an alternative, consider identifying the unused blocks in the > filesystem, and avoid including them in the .zd file.  This would make > it unnecessary to know whether the bits will be set or cleared by the > card.  ext2, ext3, and ext4 c

Re: XO-1.75 -> Flash, Java?

2011-04-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Alan Eliasen wrote: >   I considered it also a serious problem that the then-shipping > configurations of the OLPC completely lacked fonts with glyphs for many > languages (e.g. there were no fonts with Chinese or Japanese characters) > so these languages could not

Re: The next four weeks

2011-04-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> And, again, I have to remind folks that this is only *one* possible >> forward path for Sugar-on-Tablets.  This week I am examining a >> ChromeOS-based option.  http://cananian.livejournal.com/62667.html >> describes the current plan of wor

Re: The next four weeks

2011-04-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2011/4/12 NoiseEHC : > What I do not get is this: what is the goal? An excellent educational experience on tablet devices, within the resources of the current Sugar community. > Having an environment running on Android which can run the same XO bundles > which are run by XO-1.x? Ideally, yes. I

Re: The next four weeks

2011-04-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:09 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > I've posted a four week plan for XO-3 software exploration at > http://cananian.livejournal.com/62667.html > > Briefly: > April 4-8: Android The report on the first week of work is now up at: http://cananian.livejo

Re: The next four weeks

2011-04-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Thanks for your links to the mailing list threads. That's handy to have at my fingertips. I agree that the activities are key. "Transparent" compatibility is probably impossible, but I hope that porting the activities will not be too hard. Minimizing unnecessary API changes and writing a good p

People to talk to

2011-04-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
This is a corollary with my recent post on "things to do" -- here are the people I've like to get OLPC talking/working more closely with. Google teams: - ChromeOS (Ed has contact info already for the ChromeOS on ARM project manager) - Android - NativeClient Networking teams: - OLSRd (we've go

The next four weeks

2011-04-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I've posted a four week plan for XO-3 software exploration at http://cananian.livejournal.com/62667.html Briefly: April 4-8: Android April 11-15: Chrome/ChromeOS/NativeClient April 18-22: Get down & dirty with mesh April 25-29: Yanking legacy Sugar codebase into the future May 2-6: in Uruguay to p

Re: Possible XO Graphics Optimization Technique

2011-04-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Apr 1, 2011 11:03 AM, "Samuel Greenfeld" wrote: > > Hello all: > > As many of you are aware, work is being done to improve the graphics performance of various XO laptop platforms. > > So in an attempt to improve things further, I looked into optimizing the data Sugar sends to the video subsyste

Re: Any restrictions or recommendations regarding SD cards?

2011-03-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi all, > the folks from the Austrian pilot project want to equip the XO-1s there with > SD cards. Are there any restrictions wrt size, speed, etc. that they should > be aware of when purchasing the SD cards? I'm particularly asking af

Re: Mesh Potatos and OLPCs?

2011-03-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:38 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > Meraki are also doing mesh related things with the APs etc. > > Its my understanding (not that I've had much time to play) that mesh > has improved greatly over the last couple of year

Re: 11.2.0 development build 14 released

2011-03-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
You might also try just using python's implementation of tar (the 'tarfile' module), which can probably be hacked to support rsync's --fake-super as well. Might kill two birds that way. Although I'm sure that fixing fakeroot will benefit more people. --scott --                          ( http:

Re: 11.2.0 development build 14 released

2011-03-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On 19 March 2011 17:16, Daniel Drake wrote: >> updates.laptop.org now offers this stream. Instructions are on the >> 11.2.0 page above. > > Unfortunately this doesn't work. > > Files such as /etc/shadow and /etc/gshadow are now installed from

Re: 11.2.0 development build 14 released

2011-03-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:56 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> I used to run rsyncd inside fakeroot, which solved these problems >> neatly.  There's also a --fake-super option to rsync which can work. >> Or you can just run rsync as root. > > http://dev.laptop.org/gi

Re: 11.2.0 development build 14 released

2011-03-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:52 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: >> On 19 March 2011 17:16, Daniel Drake wrote: >>> updates.laptop.org now offers this stream. Instructions are on the >>> 11.2.0 page above. >> &

Re: Updating olpc-boot-anim for a 10.1.3 build with minimum fuss

2011-03-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Originally you could override by putting frames in ~/.bootanim. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Tweaking_the_boot_animation Don't know if that's still the case. --scott --                          ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.l

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > Excerpts from C. Scott Ananian's message of Sun Mar 13 16:41:36 +0100 2011: > >> I apologize; I think the code that sets timezone "correctly" might >> have been code I wrote for litl, not OLPC. > > No problem. Do you remember how it worked at

Re: Memory replacement

2011-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:00 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Andrei Warkentin > wrote: >> Sorry to butt in, I think I'm missing most of the context >> herenevertheless... I'm curious, ignoring outer packaging and >> product na

Re: Memory replacement

2011-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Andrei Warkentin wrote: > Sorry to butt in, I think I'm missing most of the context > herenevertheless... I'm curious, ignoring outer packaging and > product names, if you look at cards with the "same" CID (i.e. same > manfid/oemid/date/firmware and hw rev), do

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I apologize; I think the code that sets timezone "correctly" might have been code I wrote for litl, not OLPC. --scott On Sunday, March 13, 2011, Daniel Drake wrote: > On 13 March 2011 03:21, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: >> Sugar reports only relative times in its core GUI, so I don't know how >> co

Re: Discovering the XOs local timezone in a bash script

2011-03-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Last I knew we used standard Linux conventions for timezones and sugar called the standard Linux commands (via sudo) to set the timezone. But that should make 'date' report the correct local time (unless you use '-u') so maybe someone broke that sometime in the past two years. Check /etc/timezone?

Re: Memory replacement

2011-03-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > I've had four cards with a Sandisk label that had unusual characteristics > and manufacturer/OEM IDs that refer to other companies, three Samsung ("SM") > and one unknown ("BE", possibly lexar). In all cases, the Sandisk support > has confirm

Re: Memory replacement

2011-03-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Canonical related blog post: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918 Mandatory reading for anyone who has to deal with flash memory. --scott --                          ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists

Re: [OLPC-AU] XO-1 developer key does not work

2011-03-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:16 AM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> why am I getting different readings for each method? > > My guess is that file /home/.devkey.html was copied in from some other > system, and shows the serial number and UUID of the copied-from system. It would be interesting to investiga

Re: XO-1 developer key does not work

2011-03-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Posting your machine's serial number as well as then contents of your develop.sig might help; your developer key might be malformed or correspond to a different XO than the one you are trying to use it on. You can also try the collection key method, as one more check on the process by which you ar

Re: Require ".olpc" in rpms in ~/public_rpms/F14?

2011-02-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
FWIW, the original intent was *only* to allow SRPMS in the dropbox; we were going to explicitly rebuild the RPMs from the SRPMS in mock and use only the built RPMs. In addition to ensuring compliance with licensing provisions, this was also intended as a developer aid: at the time, it was often ea

Re: Content-Centric Networking.

2011-02-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > In my mind, the best reason to continue to use DNS and IP routing to locate >> resources (as in the Network Principles document) is that deployments >> understand them. >> > > In my mind, a stronger reason for sticking with XMPP, HTTP, DNS,

Content-Centric Networking.

2011-02-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Recapping for the list: Jim Gettys sent me a pair of papers to read yesterday, both linked from http://www.ccnx.org/content/content-centric-networking-resources 1) V. Jacobson, D. K. Smetters, J. D. Thornton, M. F. Plass, N. H. Briggs, R. L. Braynard (PARC) Networking Named Content, CoNEXT 2009, R

Re: Proposal for new frozen repositories server

2011-02-06 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > mock.laptop.org, our server for "frozen packages" i.e. a clone of the > latest Fedora and OLPC RPMs frozen for each software release, is out > of disk space and somewhat unloved, and I'd like to use the > opportunity to make some changes to the

Re: XO-1.75 A2 information

2011-01-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Accelerometer? > > Sweet! :) It looks like the XO-1.75 has the LIS33xx, which is roughly the same accelerometer as used in the iPhone, Android phones, etc. Our ODM suggested replacing our LIS33DH with an accelerometer from Kionix (we went

Re: Looking for startup sound recording

2010-12-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:04 AM, James Cameron wrote: > (You'll notice that on a good sound system it is quite different to > playback on an XO ... it takes a bit of equalisation to reproduce the XO > speakers.) The converse, actually. The sound file was extensively EQ'd so that it is *accurate*

Re: Firmware update

2010-11-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On 24 November 2010 22:40, Kevin Gordon wrote: >> Is this recommendation against yum and rpm for all software, or just the >> oplc repo packages, the kernel and the firmware?  I'm certainly happy doing >> just safe builds for the core. > > To

Re: XO-1.5 audio input DC mode

2010-11-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > 2. The voltage I see with bias off is probably generated internally by >   the codec chip. [...] >   Unless someone finds a magic way to disable this from the digital >   side of the chip (which I doubt), we'll have to cope with it. This >   m

Re: SD card unpartitioned space -- used for swap?

2010-11-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > If "indistinguishable" is true, then there is as much wear to the SD > card from one file-block written as there is from one swap-block > written. Yes. >  I have no measurements whatsoever - but my gut feel is that > the majority of my SD

Re: SD card unpartitioned space -- used for swap?

2010-11-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> Downsides >> - Increased SD card wear > > For about two years now, I've been defining a swap partition on the > (external) "permanent" SD card I use with my XO-1 systems.  So far, I > have never experienced any problems with that setup. A

Re: SD card unpartitioned space -- used for swap?

2010-11-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
As my own clarification: I wasn't dismissing possible performance improvements (of any kind). I was just commenting on the old "lockup" bugs, saying this might not actually be related to no-swap-space, although it's possible memory pressure exacerbates the problem. For performance issues, you hav

Re: SD card unpartitioned space -- used for swap?

2010-11-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Assuming OLPC isn't using TRIM support on the SD cards, writes to the swap space are indistinguishable from writes to any other space on the card. That means that writes to the swap "partition" could potentially corrupt other data on the card, especially if it occurs less than 30s before removal o

Re: Notes on conventional desktop tools

2010-11-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:08 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> I think you'll have more success with the latest skype using pulseaudio. > > No need for speculation. I can tell you: in general terms, F11 > pulseaudio ai

Re: Notes on conventional desktop tools

2010-11-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: >  - Flash pays a hefty price for its refusal to use Xv. Don't install > pulseaudio. >  - Skype 2.0.0.72 works reasonably well once you set the right > microphone input. Latest Skype (2.1.0.81) doesn't play well with our > ALSA implementatio

Re: XO-1.5 audio input DC mode

2010-11-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:46 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > As a wild stab at a first guess, it sounds like a software problem to > me -- seems like xoscope is not successfully turning off either the > bias voltage or the decoupling capacitor (high pass filter).  Perhaps > a silent fai

Re: XO-1.5 audio input DC mode

2010-11-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
As a wild stab at a first guess, it sounds like a software problem to me -- seems like xoscope is not successfully turning off either the bias voltage or the decoupling capacitor (high pass filter). Perhaps a silent failure of some sort? --scott --                          ( http://cscott.net/

Fwd: Upgrading a _very_ old OLPC

2010-11-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
-- Forwarded message -- From: Krishnan R.S. Date: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:48 AM Subject: Upgrading a _very_ old OLPC To: csc...@laptop.org Hello,    I managed to get my hands on a very old OLPC XO laptop for my daughter. I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to upgrade the OS to somet

Re: Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:19 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:19 PM,   wrote: >>>> Just make sure you keep in mind the difference between the specification >>>> and what is likel

Re: Re: XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:19 PM, wrote: >> Just make sure you keep in mind the difference between the specification and >> what is likely to be acceptable.  One value is better suited to personal >> tinkering, the other to widespread propagation. > > Good point. As background to my questions Tu

Re: XO-1.75 progress

2010-11-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Hey, that looks a lot like the conference rooms *I've* been spending weeks in! ;-) --scott --                          ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Synaptics driver on XO-1.5 hw?

2010-10-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On 28 October 2010 15:54, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> On XO-1, we have a long painful history with synaptics and the EC, >> that's led to it being disabled. Instead we use the PS2 protocol. >> >> I just realised that we still do that on XO-1.5

Re: Aggressive suspend vs NM/DHCP

2010-10-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > The "right fix" is just what we wanna do for the upstream dev branch, > for the next cycle. Sigh. --scott --                          ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists

Forwarded developer key request (was Fwd: Internal Server Error)

2010-09-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Forwarded conversation Subject: Internal Server Error From: *Pavel Stržínek* Date: 2010/9/11 To: csc...@laptop.org Hello Scott I'm trying to apply for a developer key for OLPC v1 from Browser activity right on XO device but I'm getting Internal Server Error message. I

Re: [IAEP] "Mesh" Dreams = OLSR

2010-09-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'm not 100% certain we've pulled in members of the OLSR mailing lists on this thread yet. But they've actually got a number of very impressive *real world* demonstrations of OLSRd in the wild. You'll have to search the devel@ archives for 'olsr' to find the emails I sent years ago with all the d

Re: SD/MMC cards, a year later

2010-08-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:24 AM, John Watlington wrote: > Our experiment with SD/MMC cards as main storage continues. FWIW, I'm about two weeks into failure testing of 4G MLC compact flash from a couple of vendors. I'll update the list when one or both of them kick the bucket. Is OLPC looking a

Re: [IAEP] Redesigning: Library, Read, Get-Books, and Content bundles

2010-07-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > deployments that would like to install content bundles. They package > these files into .xol packages and these packages get installed into > the "Library," which is contained on the left hand side of the Browse > activity. Yes, you read th

Re: 10.1.1 and os300 -- DPI vs fontsizes on FF vs Browse.xo

2010-07-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > I was aware that maybe we had different in scaling/dpi on our > browsers, but Aliosh (from the Perú team) pointed out how large the > difference is between Firefox and Browse.xo: > > Here shown between an XO-1.5 on 10.1.1 and an XO-1 on os3

Re: [IAEP] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
It may be worth looking at http://trac.edgewall.org/roadmap for how the trac team itself uses it. In particular, if you check the "Show completed milestones" box, and then on some old milestone (like, say, http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/0.11.3 ) you can drill down into any component and see wha

Re: [Sugar-devel] Announce: OLPC software strategy.

2010-07-09 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Chris Ball wrote: >   > What about the compiler? IIUC currently a commercial compiler is >   > required. If that continues to be the case (as I expect it to), >   > would it be possible for OLPC to provide the (probably very few) >   > users interested in hacking on

Re: Removing RTC from Theft-Deterrence

2010-07-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM, John Watlington wrote: > > On Jul 7, 2010, at 5:07 PM, James Cameron wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 04:57:19PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >>> Unfortunately, the software changes required are to EC code, which is >>> diff

Re: USB2VGA adapters on XO-1.5 (and XO-1 with F11 images)

2010-07-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: >  - It is slow and laggy. A VNC protocol expert may be able to help us > optimise... Might try some of the VNC encoding options, like those at: http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/winvncviewer.html#ColorEncoding Assuming you're using a

Re: Removing RTC from Theft-Deterrence

2010-07-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:01 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >  * Updating exactly every hour is vulnerable to an attacker who > arranges to remove the battery from the machine exactly 55 minutes > after power on, every time.  This is still quite awkward, but to avoid > even this attack

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging

2010-07-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 01:18:04AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: >> Bernie wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 12:02 -0400, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: >> >> I think you are missing an important requirement: installation without >> >> elevated permiss

Re: Removing RTC from Theft-Deterrence

2010-07-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:48 PM, John Watlington wrote: > On Jul 7, 2010, at 4:01 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > >> Since "RTC security" is being discussed again, I'm going to repost two >> relevant proposals from "the good old days".  First: on m

Re: [Sugar-devel] Clocks on XOs

2010-07-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> NetworkManager used to call ntpdate when it setup a connection.  Was that an >> OLPC addition? Yes, although it's now present in litl's software builds as well. > We figured out that the ntp package has never been present on the XO > ima

Removing RTC from Theft-Deterrence

2010-07-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
trusted computation to be done on the main processor. --scott -- Forwarded message -- From: C. Scott Ananian Date: Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:11 PM Subject: 9.1 Proposal: Improving antitheft To: Devel List , sugar I'd like our antitheft support to be more of a "feature&q

Re: NetworkManager time sync

2010-07-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: >> While we have your attention on this topic... >> Do you not think that this is a security issue? In that a thief could >> put a laptop on a network with rigged DNS and have control ov

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