Re: Issue of Signing Custom Builds

2008-03-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know that you guys are super crushed w/ Peru's deployment. We really > need cryptographically signed custom XO images for Nepal. Please see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customization_key which is our supported mechanism for

Re: New update.1 build 696

2008-03-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build696 > Changes in build 696 from build: 695 > -sugar-presence-service 0.75.2-1.olpc2 > +sugar-presence-service 0.75.1-1.olpc2 Don't we need the school-se

Re: [sugar] Journal: two quick suggestions

2008-03-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/3/3 Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I now see that this was never given a ticket, but has been hidden in the HIG > since the early days. I've opened ticket #6634 on the subject, generalizing > it as a way for content providers to tag any bundle as appropriate. While we're talking about me

Re: Today's mesh testing.

2008-03-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > broadcast, and they were all able to see and join a shared chat session > with each other. The workload on the spectrum analyzer increased from > 18% (no-one connected) to 26% (all connected). The chat session is > consis

Re: RPM package for cerebro test

2008-02-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://lyme.media.mit.edu/cerebro/images/Cerebro-24-1.olpc2.noarch.rpm Could you describe this a little better? What is this intended to do? Just provide the Space activity, or replace our existing presence

Re: Avahi optimisations

2008-02-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Morgan Collett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Stone wrote: > >>* Minimize size of announced services (i.e. drop unnecessary data from > TXT) > >> - The biggest item in the TXT of contacts is the key (which is BIG). > But > >>this key is

Re: Buddy list URI proposal, revised slightly.

2008-02-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:45 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rather than invent a new 'friend' URI scheme, an alternative is to use > the standard XMPP scheme: > xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED];name=Full%20Name > (see http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-

Buddy list URI proposal, revised slightly.

2008-02-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Rather than invent a new 'friend' URI scheme, an alternative is to use the standard XMPP scheme: xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED];name=Full%20Name (see http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0147.html ) (Thanks, Robert McQueen.) The xmpp server on the laptop responds to roster and chat requests at that addre

Re: A modest proposal.

2008-02-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Feb 19, 2008 7:57 PM, Robert McQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Currently we use the buddy key as this unifying key, but I very much > like the idea of providing extra information to open up the prospect of > communicating between schools, and a

Re: A modest proposal.

2008-02-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Feb 19, 2008 5:47 PM, Robert McQueen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A similar, but more standards-compliant[1][2] proposal might look more like: > xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The key part of my original proposal is that it also works in the (possibly temporary) absence of a school school or of networ

A modest proposal.

2008-02-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I propose installing a handler for a new URI type in our browse application. The links will look like: friend:name.xxx.school.country.xs.laptop.org where: name is a Punycode encoding of the XO nickname. Technically, the IDN ToASCII mapping operation is performed on the nickname, truncated on

Re: tonight's progress

2008-02-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
the firefox / whatwg already have a fleshed out model for how 'offline' mode should work for a web browser, including local document storage, etc. have you looked at that (before we invent our own ways to write web apps)? --scott On 2/16/08, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Moving this

Re: bar code scanners on the XO

2008-02-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone used a USB bar code scanner on the XO? Any recommendations > as to a model we could use for an inventory project? Any barcode scanner which advertises itself as an USB HID device (read, keyboard) would work fin

Re: free usb8388.bin

2008-02-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > doesn't work. Heck, it won't send/receive packets and it knows nothing > of this "USB" thing. However, we have a blinkenlight. Ship it! > > BTW, what is killing my blinkenlight? I realize that it wouldn't do > to hang

Autoinstallation/customization functionality.

2008-02-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Here's a brain dump of functionality for deployments (like, perhaps, Peru) which would like to customize their builds on a large scale. I'm assuming that the cheapest way to do this in the extremely short term is by inserting a USB key into each machine and have some things happen: a) autoinstall

Re: developer key site failing

2008-02-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Feb 11, 2008 11:16 PM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 11, 2008, at 11:04 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > > I emailed Ivan this morning to try to get a > > recent Quanta dump so that I can sort this out. > > I don't have that e-mail. I have a qu

Re: developer key site failing

2008-02-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Feb 11, 2008 10:11 PM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6377 I added code for this exact case this morning after seeing the failure in the logs. (Django emails you whenever it fails with a server error.) Future attempts will state clearly that the problem i

Uruguay deployment scripts.

2008-02-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
For the archives and those interested, the scripts Uruguay used for their deployment are in git at: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/ceibal-scripts;a=tree I hope to actually get a complete build image at some point. (Thanks for cjb for pointing these out to me.) --scott --

Re: New update.1 build 691

2008-02-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/2/8 Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > We hope to have the final release candidate by the end of next week -- so I > think that means we only want one more build. The number of items still open (but approved) for the next rc candidate is sufficiently large that I think we should plan for at lea

Please test update.1 rc2.

2008-02-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Signed builds for update.1 rc2 (build 691) are now available at: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/691/jffs2/ You can also 'olpc-update candidate-691', which will get the signed build. Release notes at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Test_Group_Release_Notes#Build_691_Q2D13_.28RC2.29

Proposal: the 'faster' branch.

2008-02-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
There are a number of high risk changes which seem necessary to get the performance we would like from our builds. In addition to tomeu's recent rainbow patches, I could list: partitioning the root filesystem, using logfs/jffs3/ufs instead of jffs2 for our filesystems, starting X as early as poss

Re: status of startup speedup

2008-02-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
These changes seem appropriate for the 'faster' build (see next message on devel@). --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New update.1 build 691

2008-02-07 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/2/7 ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I take it this is RC2? > > Does WEP work yet? This will be RC2; WEP/WPA are believed working but please test. Technically, this may not actually be RC2 until it is signed, but I expect we'll do that tomorrow, unless our early adopters find that it breathes smok

Re: Formal release methodolology

2008-02-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Feb 5, 2008 1:50 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI, here is how the firmware team (i.e. Richard and I) implement the > release-stabilization parts of the above. I do not address the formal > testing here, just the special disciplines during run-up-to-release. [...] > d) As of t

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-02-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Feb 4, 2008 8:23 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's easy to get confused about this -- the particular implementation > strategy for update.1 has changed several times. (Indeed, I might > have it wrong, but I rest assured that if so, someone will correct > me.) See http://dev.la

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-02-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Feb 4, 2008 12:59 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I posted because there appeared to be a regression (regarding asking > for passwords) in the OLPC behavior -- that exists regardless of how > I described happening to notice it. It is not a bug. Use 'passwd' to set a password.

Re: Python 3.0 will be backward incompatible

2008-02-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Feb 3, 2008 10:51 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > code. And perhaps Python facilities for specifying what version of > the interpreter your code expects (and getting such an interpreter to > execute it, regardless of which interpreter version is the default > called "python") will

Re: What's left for Update.1

2008-02-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Feb 4, 2008 11:50 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/2/4 Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I think this is way too much stuff for Update.1. We are in code freeze. We > > have items 1 and 2 scheduled to go into RC2; I would suggest that we ONLY > > pick up Spanish, where we

Re: What's left for Update.1

2008-02-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Jan 31, 2008 10:11 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2 - q2d11 OFW - to fix battery problems We'll need a q2d12 to fix #6291, or plan for a update.1.1 for deployments like Mongolia where we need to multicast-update large groups of machines. > 4 - UI fix for registration with the sc

Re: [OLPC library] MATLAB for OLPC?

2008-01-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Jan 28, 2008 5:24 PM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Cleve Moler wrote: > > (I doubt that MATLAB runs in the OLPC, but I'm not sure.) There are a number of open-source replacements for MATLAB, including GNU Octave ( http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/ ) an

Re: XO as standalone dev system (was: Re: compiler / glibc optimization)

2008-01-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/1/25 Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Does bootanim pull it's 60MB size freight? That's the only thing > that struck my eye in a review of rpms by size. Our filesystem is compressed. You are looking at uncompressed size. The data in question is extremely compressible. Otherwise -- have f

Re: non-Sugar but core software?

2008-01-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
*In general* packages have 'olpc' in their titles because they are not appropriate for non-XO machines. There are exceptions: olpc-contents and olpc-evince (or is it called evince-sugar?) come to mind. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) __

Re: Switch to a sane packaging and upgrade system

2008-01-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/1/16 ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 1) Alice's teacher wants her to use a flash (non-gnash working) web site for > her homework. Her teacher had set it up for her in class, but as she walked > home, her XO was auto-updated to the new version. This undid all of the > changes that installed non-free

Re: getting 'olpc-update'

2008-01-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Jan 15, 2008 7:30 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ffm wrote: > > then you have the old version > > You need to be on update.1 or joyride to get the new one. > > That's why I posted here. I have (on G1G1) a very recent update.1 > and a very recent joyride. Yet BOTH have the 200

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Beta release of Creative Commons licensing activity

2008-01-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Jan 14, 2008 7:10 PM, Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm happy to announce a beta release of the Creative Commons licensing > activity for the XO. Do you have suggestions on integrating this with Pippy and (say) Paint? For example, if you could copy the license choice to the clipb

Re: libglade?

2008-01-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'd strongly suggest incrementally extending Pippy (making a "Poppy") to add functionality, instead of starting from scratch. That way, at every point you will have a working application which is better than what we have now, minimizing the chance that this will be Yet Another Ambitious Develop Ef

Re: Updates API documentation for everything.

2007-12-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I should have also noted that epydoc is configured to use ReStructuredText by default for docstrings (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html) -- if you prefer to use a different markup language set the global __docformat__ at the top level of your module, as described here: http://epydoc.source

Re: Updates API documentation for everything.

2007-12-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 30, 2007 1:31 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In general it would be good if a docs could be made downloadable... I > don't always have net access. Good point. When I integrate this into the build process, I'll be sure to .zip up the files as well. In the interim: http:

Updated API documentation for everything.

2007-12-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
The subject line of my previous message should have been 'updated API documentation', not 'updates API documentation', sigh. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.or

Updates API documentation for everything.

2007-12-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I have run the python documentation tool 'epydoc' on the contents of the joyride-1477 release. The results are here: http://dev.laptop.org/~cscott/joyride-1477-api/ This is probably the most up-to-date documentation available now for Sugar, the update and contents tools, rainbow, etc. I plan to

Re: joyride image Jffs2 on usb ?

2007-12-30 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 29, 2007 6:36 PM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 28, 2007, at 9:32 PM, Mr frÿffe9dÿffe9ric > pouchal wrote: > > There is a file that ends with jffs2.usb > > Does it mean that you can use jffs2 on usb ? > > No, and you don't want to be using JFFS2 on a USB

Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule & trac usage... ***Please Read**

2007-12-29 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 28, 2007 12:30 PM, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I heard this also from C.Scott. It's not a problem for me > because I can keep developming in my own xtest builds, but > where are the other developers supposed to integrate their > work and make it available for testing? T

Re: Question about button mapping in Browse handheld mode

2007-12-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
there's a bug filed in trac, assigned to the browse-activity component, which discusses key mappings in handheld mode. I'm reading mail on my cellphone, so I can't look it up for you know, but it shouldn't be hard to find from http://dev.laptop.org/ --scott On 12/27/07, Jake Beard <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: newbie question: single-user mode

2007-12-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
If you're going to be fooling with your laptop in this way (and we encourage you to do so) the very first thing you should do is get a developer key. I hope you did so? >From the OFW prompt, type 'more olpc.fth' to see the boot script. The bit at the end is the business side; you can probably fi

Re: [OT] struggles installing builds

2007-12-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 27, 2007 6:00 PM, ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just went from 1480 to latest joyride over ethernet, and it worked for me. Yes, I've done it too. In a previous post: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-December/008880.html mikus claimed that he had DNS problems with his wi

Re: [OT] struggles installing builds

2007-12-27 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 27, 2007 11:47 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI - finally managed to put an update.1 build on my G1G1. For my > system, the solution was using an USB stick, instead of a SD card, > to load in the build image. [With SD cards, the process would erase > the nand contents,

Re: Do some images have the development tools already in the image?

2007-12-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 26, 2007 7:36 PM, Jim Oser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do some images have the development tools already in the image? > Why is http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/ > build1481/devel_ext3/data/ os.img 928 MB > while other images at: > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olp

Re: Latest stable build in Ship.2

2007-12-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 26, 2007 1:56 PM, ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even though it is unsupported to use the olpc-update method, for some it > might be more important to get wifi than stability. > > Should we put in the support FAQ that if one *absolutely* needs WPA that > they could try olpc-update ing unde

Re: Latest stable build in Ship.2

2007-12-26 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 26, 2007 12:27 PM, ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to the download page for ship.2, 653 is the latest signed stable, > but according to OS images the latest image is 650. Since many issues that > were in 650 have been fixed in 653, and 653 seems to run w/o issues, why the > two di

Re: Setting up rsync server for olpc-update

2007-12-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Documentation on wiki at Olpc-update. --scott On Dec 25, 2007 5:15 PM, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Scott, > > I'd like to use olpc-update with my custom xtest builds, > so I don't have to download the 300MB of OS images every > time. > > What should I do to set it up on

Re: Login as root on 667

2007-12-25 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 25, 2007 6:49 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the problem is that sudo is not installed on the Update.1 builds. By > looking at the build log I see: > > >Parsing package install arguments > >No package sudo available. Ah, the old 'yum doesn't actually fail when there's

Re: Is DRM on every G1G1 laptop?

2007-12-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 24, 2007 8:11 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The procedure describes using 'wget' to fetch the key. Perhaps due > to my physical connection setup (wired + proxy), the 'wget' would > time out and say "Resolving activation.laptop.org ... failed". > [Note: for me, wget on the

Re: Playing with IDEs

2007-12-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Bernie has the details to get a 1200x900 screen in the emulator on the wiki somewhere (right?); since XOs may in the future have differently-sized screens, Bernie's contention is that we are just asking for trouble later if our applications don't scale to the available space. Opinions differ on th

Re: A bit confused about updates

2007-12-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
There is an automatic upgrade system. Your machine will automatically upgrade to the latest stable version. The various builds and branches are described at http://dev.laptop.org/roadmap ; click 'see completed milestones' to see the older ship.* branches. --scott -- ( h

Re: Security Certificates

2007-12-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 24, 2007 11:50 AM, irwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The browser correctly identifies a certificate that doesn't match the URL. > However, there needs to be a way to continue with the page regardless of the > certificate's validity. In other words, it should be a warning, as in > normal b

Re: Login as root on 667

2007-12-24 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 24, 2007 11:04 AM, Kim Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marco, > If this is the same issue that I just encountered in Joyride, then the login > is now 'olpc' instead of 'root'. No password. Sudo should work (i believe). trac #5537 ; http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-December/0

Re: how to get an activation key without wifi ?

2007-12-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 23, 2007 4:01 PM, Mr frÿffe9dÿffe9ric pouchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a G1G1 olpc and I need an activation key > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_Developer_Keys You mean, "Developer Key". G1G1 machines are pre-activated from the factory. > The first m

Re: Give One Get One laptop for software development

2007-12-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Pippy is a capable basic Python IDE. sshfs is a nice way to get access to the XO's filesystem from a full-scale development machine. The XO's flash is large enough to install emacs, git, and other such tools; a full C development environment is a bit of a stretch, but you can add an external SD ca

Re: Clock?

2007-12-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 23, 2007 4:55 PM, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jerry Van Baren wrote: > > > Hmmm, odd. After setting the hwclock with --utc, my /etc/adjtime has > > "UTC" but, when I cycled power, my system clock was off by my timezone. > > Ahh, my /etc/adjtime has "0" instead of "UTC" o

Re: Clock?

2007-12-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 22, 2007 10:06 PM, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It looks in /etc/sysconfig/clock for the UTC flag. It defaults to local. > > My XO doesn't have an /etc/sysconfig/clock > > All the Linux boxes I've ever worked with have run with the hardware clock > set to UTC. I'm not sure why X

Re: upgrading firmware on activated laptops

2007-12-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 22, 2007 7:39 AM, Emiliano Pastorino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any procedure to upgrade JUST the firmware on activated laptops? > Thanks! A couple of ways: a) get a developer key, and reflash from OFW b) put a signed bootfw.zip of the desired firmware on a USB key, boot with i

Re: Clock?

2007-12-22 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 22, 2007 3:07 AM, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joshua Minor wrote: > > Is it reasonable to assume that the XO's clock is set correctly? > > Specifically I'd like to use python's time.time() to determine which > > participant of an activity has been using it the longest. >

Re: OLPC Debian root password

2007-12-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
>From looking at the build on updates.laptop.org, it looks to me like there is no password set for root. In any case, the debian build is rather old; you will get better results by repeating the steps at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Installing_Debian_as_an_upgrade This will ensure you get the lat

Re: sudo, not su.

2007-12-21 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I think people misunderstand the core problem: if root does not have a password, then *any activity on the system* can gain root privileges by su'ing to root. By restricting 'root login' to the olpc user via sudo, it becomes simple to restrict the activities which can gain root privileges, because

Re: New joyride build 1452

2007-12-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
> Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > > I also disapprove adding bulky packages to our builds just for sake of > > debugging. In this case, this is said to be only temporary until we > > have shaken the most serious networking problems. As I've said before: normally you can say, "just download the debugg

Re: Tickets triaging

2007-12-20 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 19, 2007 9:50 AM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 11:57 +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > > My understanding is that developers and testers can propose tickets > > using the Update.1? keyword but it's up to Jim and Kim to actually > > triage the ticket to a c

Re: New joyride build 1450

2007-12-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 19, 2007 4:00 PM, Build Announcer Script <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1450/ > --- Journal-82 --- > * #2545 Correctly unmount the device from the DS when it is removed. > (tomeu) > * Implement ShowObject, #4909 (rwh) > > ---

Re: Tickets triaging

2007-12-19 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 19, 2007 5:57 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there is some disagreement in trac about how bugs triaging should > work. See for example: > > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5538#comment:5 > > My understanding is that developers and testers can propose tickets > using the U

sudo, not su.

2007-12-18 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'd like to draw devel@'s attention to trac bug 5537, which might land sometime soon: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5537 The upshot would be that, instead of logging in directly as root with no password, you would log in directly as *olpc* with no password, and then sudo to root (if you need root

Re: DONT USE 1432 Re: New joyride build 1432

2007-12-16 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 16, 2007 7:14 PM, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The new-kernel-pkg script is part of mkinitrd :-( > > Please, allow me some time to come up with a straightforward > fix that doesn't require putting mkinitrd back in the builds. Can you please do this in your private builds,

Re: Builds and release process

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 11:52 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott has written very detailed instructions on how to do this but his > documentation is currently located on the internalwiki in pursuit of, in > my view, security by obscurity. Since I am not maintaining these > servers, I do n

Re: Enable security in Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 10:38 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 15, 2007 4:36 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Roadmap lists activity isolation as a release criterion for > > Update.1. Was there a public announcement that I missed explaining why > > activity i

Re: Builds and release process ( was Re: Update.1 schedule and code freeze...)

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 10:26 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 15, 2007 3:54 PM, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Moreover, I was very confused by the fact that we branched Update.1 > > from Ship.2 rather than from Joyride, which I still considered our > > devel

Re: Enable security in Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 6:31 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we need to enable security in the Update.1 images, since the plan is > to ship with it enabled. Looks like it's turned off in pilgrim at the > moment. > > 463 echo " - turning off security by default" > 464 rm -f $INSTALL

Re: Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 7:41 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The location of the Update.1 builds has changed: > > http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/ > > I'm not sure if it's the final location but it would be to update the > Changelog to point to it. > > http://

Re: Builds and release process ( was Re: Update.1 schedule and code freeze...)

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 7:35 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 14, 2007 11:01 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Declaring code freeze for Update.1 today would not see a rational > > resolution of these issue. As promised, this is a release that is > > driven by compl

Re: LOLPC

2007-12-15 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 15, 2007 1:14 AM, Ivan Krstić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://live.laptop.org/~krstic/lolpc.jpg > > It had to be done. One Laptop Per Cat! --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.

Re: New update.1 build 656

2007-12-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 14, 2007 9:04 PM, ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should we be doing testing on this build, or on the latest joyride? > > Will all the changes made here be merged back with joyride eventualy? The other way round: all the changes made in joyride will eventually make their way to a stable bu

Re: New update.1 build 656

2007-12-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 14, 2007 10:27 AM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems like we should leave compat-libstc+++ in for a release cycle > more Fedora, for better or worse, tends to lead rather than follow > in the glibc versioning (no great surprise since Cygnus was acquired by > Red Hat). > > Le

New official build 653

2007-12-14 Thread C. Scott Ananian
A new official build 653 is now at: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/653/ As with all builds in the 'official' directory on download.laptop.org, it is signed for installation on unactivated machines and machines without developer keys. This build is identical to ship.2-653, except f

Re: New update.1 build 656

2007-12-13 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 13, 2007 2:19 AM, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/13/07 00:58, Build Announcer Script wrote: > > > +compat-libstdc++-33.i386 0:3.2.3-61 > > Why do we even need this? I don't know, but it's explicitly listed in pilgrim as a package to install. joyride has had it, but d

Re: Voice IM project proposal

2007-12-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
although full voip would be nice, simply adding voice to chat in a push-to-talk fashion might be nice, too. i don't see why we shouldn't do both, unless the exact same people are invoved. --scott On 12/12/07, Sjoerd Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:21:59AM -0500, Be

Re: status of MANIFEST file

2007-12-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Incidentally, from my review of the bundlebuilder code, it appears that one of the reasons why MANIFEST files have been disappearing from bundles is that bundlebuilder has mechanisms to synthesize the MANIFEST from the git or svn repo contents. So in most cases, the developer does not need to expl

Re: Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 11, 2007 6:52 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Sesame Street video that runs in the Helix player (RV encoded) is > quite a good demo of full screen video on the laptop. Is there a URL that that can be downloaded from? Does Erik's transcoding mechanism work to get it out o

Help wanted: video demo!

2007-12-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
We need a demo which shows off the full-screen video capabilities of the XO. Unfortunately, Record compresses its input rather heavily, so it's not a great demo for video playback. We bundle the Ogg Theora codecs, and Browse can play media files full-screen, so the first step is for someone to in

Re: Reducing pygame cpu-load to < 4 %

2007-12-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I have patched Pippy's examples to follow best practices for pygame, so that the frame rate is limited to 20 FPS and games automatically pause and suspend after 20 seconds of inactivity. (These defaults can be overridden.) The patch is pullable from: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/pippy

Re: status of MANIFEST file

2007-12-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 8, 2007 7:18 PM, Christoph Derndorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Daniel and me are again having another weekend-jam working on the > activity handbook and we've just spent the past half hour looking at > different .xo packages from the git-repository to see how the MANIFEST > file inside t

Re: status of MANIFEST file

2007-12-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 8, 2007 7:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2007, at 1:18 , Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > > > So what I'm basically asking is what the exact requirements for the > > MANIFEST file are as activities seem to work regardless of what it > > contains. > > Currently,

Re: New joyride build 1386

2007-12-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 8, 2007 8:25 AM, ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Odd, I can not seem to use olpc-update. I am sure I have an Internet > connection, I just don't think that it is published on the olpc binary diff > update server. Please file a trac bug with complete details on the command you typed, the er

Re: .xo Package Manager, xo-get, xo_updater

2007-12-06 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 6, 2007 1:26 PM, Chris Hager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. To update only new files inside the zip would require a new kind of > MANIFEST's with hashes, which I doubt will be here soon, since people > stopped using manifests even in the demos :-) See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contents_Man

Re: no serial number ?

2007-12-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 6, 2007 12:02 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many thanks for everyones help. Mitch Bradly walked me through the > process of fixing my B2. > > See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/No_serial_number Um, I don't like those instructions at all. Why not just set the serial number in SPI flash, and

Re: xo-get

2007-12-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 5, 2007 10:28 PM, Chris Hager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just finished a little coding session inspired by our olpc-austria > meeting, and thought to share some news: > > 1. xo-get.py > >http://www.olpcaustria.org/mediawiki/index.php/Xo-get > >A very simple, but functional .xo pack

Re: Status of Develop.activity?

2007-12-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 5, 2007 10:15 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally we have the problem of NO systems programming language > being supplied. It's less than 9 MB for the whole C development > environment, including a decent collection of *-devel packages. > You even get a second language th

Re: Official signed ship.2 candidate 650

2007-12-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 5, 2007 11:16 AM, Stephen Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is interesting because I used olpc-update 650 from home this > morning and it installed but I have to say the last message before the > system prompt was "installing ." it did not give a warm fuzzy > feeling that it insta

Re: Official signed ship.2 candidate 650

2007-12-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 5, 2007 9:14 AM, Morgan Collett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim Gettys wrote: > > -bash-3.2# olpc-update 650 > > > > Downlaoding contents of build 650. > > @Error unknown module 'build-650':md5 mismatch for build 650 > > > On We

Official signed ship.2 candidate 650

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Official signed images for build 650 are now at: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/650/jffs2/ You can also use: olpc-update 650 but be aware that build 650 fixes an open firmware bug which could cause your machine to fail to boot after you upgrade. That said, *please try using ol

Re: New joyride build 1363

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 12:31 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Btw - why are there so many builds without package changes? Do they > have any significance? See > > http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html Two reasons: a) often it's pilgrim (the build tool) which changes; your tool d

Re: Intel XO

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 4:36 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the "Intel XO"? It is a tentative version of the XO hardware using an Intel chipset. Intel has engineers looking at this possibility; this was a result of the OLPC/Intel agreement earlier this year. Timeframes, actual p

Re: New joyride build 1366

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 3:54 PM, Owen Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why did news reader and those other activities get rolled back to older > versions? It appears that tomeu's public_rpms didn't get collected properly (accounting for Journal and Write), nor did ywwg's (NewsReader) or some other fol

Re: New joyride build 1363

2007-12-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Dec 4, 2007 4:30 AM, Build Announcer Script <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- olpc-library-core.noarch 1-10 --- > * Fixing intro to the XO, with Walter's new intro, and links. > * Smaller for jg; will rebuild to larger in a few days. The incremental update mechanism makes ping-ponging between

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