OFW Q2E14 is available for testing

2008-08-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e14 It's the latest and greatest test candidate for 8.2.0, with numerous fixes and a few features. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New Test firmware

2008-08-19 Thread Mitch Bradley
Richard Smith wrote: > I have a new test firmware up for all you brave firmware testers. > Last time I didn't give it enough soak time before rolling a q2e13 and > had to brown bag it. So I'd appreciate testing across a bunch of > different builds. > > http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q20158.rom

Re: Requesting test help for OFW development release

2008-08-06 Thread Mitch Bradley
John Gilmore wrote: >> ok wifi my-ssid >> ok flash http:\\dev.laptop.org\~wmb >> > > This didn't work; it required saying: > > >> ok flash http:\\dev.laptop.org\~wmb\q2e12f.rom >> > > It is my policy to include at least one mistake in every set of instru

Requesting test help for OFW development release

2008-08-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
I recently added a workaround to the OFW USB mass storage code so it can handle a particular USB-to-MicroSD adapter that was causing problems. The workaround required some major surgery to the code, specifically to the way that errors are propagated through various levels. I think the new vers

Re: [Techteam] NAND full issue

2008-07-27 Thread Mitch Bradley
e leaks that were fixed in Update.1: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5637 That should reduce flash usage a lot, but I guess we need to continue anyway with our plans to deal with full file systems. Should we tell Uruguay to delete the files in that dir after every boot? Thanks, Tomeu On Thu, Jul 24,

Tuxpaint activity is bloated

2008-07-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
The filesystem layout for the tuxpaint activity has a lot of boilerplate that contributes to it taking up a lot of space on NAND. In some NAND images from Uruguay that I analyzed today, over 5000 directory entries - nearly 50% of the total number of dirents in /home - were from tuxpaint. For ex

ls-r command in OFW

2008-07-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
I have added some new commands to the OFW source; they will appear in the next firmware that I release. They may be of some value in debugging "nand filled up" problems - but on the other hand, they might not, because JFFS2 can fill up in ways that don't show up in directory listings. (Some fi

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-19 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes, I am running a joyride build on that system. This whole >> business of "what indicators need to be placed where" is a complete >> mystery to me. That is why I use a "permanent" SD ca

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
n you hold down the check key. Eben Eliason wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > If you hold down the check key while booting, the firmware will > give additional information

Re: OFW sad face doesn't say why

2008-07-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
If you hold down the check key while booting, the firmware will give additional information about the boot progress, in both iconic and textual form. I put in the sad face because I needed some way to indicate failure. The published design specified what is supposed to happen when everything

Re: Modularzing USB

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The UBIFS guys seem to be willing to do UBIFS entirely inside a RedBoot >> partition. I have been talking to them off and on, and got no pushback from >

Re: Modularzing USB

2008-06-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > While we're compiling a wishlist, Scott would like FUSE modules (for > various nefarious purposes), squashfs (for USB updates using > olpc-update), and "some additional flash filesystem other t

Re: Activation problems

2008-05-07 Thread Mitch Bradley
John Watlington wrote: > > > When I reboot (after activating), it reports that the lease in > nand:\security\lease.sig is expired. > Then it finds valid signatures for the OS and proceeds. > Can you get a developer key? If so, type: ok .clock ok more nand:\security\lease.sig ___

Re: Activation problems

2008-05-07 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:16 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> You can try to search the SN of the laptops you're trying to activate in >>> >> the lease.sig file to see if they're there... >> >> The activation leases in the lease.sig file

Re: Activation problems

2008-05-07 Thread Mitch Bradley
If the icons are flashing, the firmware is already out of the picture. John Watlington wrote: > > I have two laptops here in Peru that refuse to activate. > > I have generated leases for (increasingly) 7 days, 3000 days, > and 7999 days, and none work. I activated three other laptops > using the

Re: Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-26 Thread Mitch Bradley
Sugar could run inside a window or as a full-screen app with a hot key to switch. I have run Windows and Linux on the same machine for many years with that sharing style. In such a model, Sugar will be used to the extent that users prefer it. Albert Cahalan wrote: > Let's imagine this several

Re: A technical assessment of porting "Sugar" to Windows.

2008-04-24 Thread Mitch Bradley
victor wrote: >> For sound support, the situation is similar. I believe that a larger >> number of basic APIs are used to access sound playback features than >> are used to access the camera and microphone, making compatibility >> more difficult. At minimum, we would need to use the windows port

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: > Mitch Bradley wrote: >> No, I'm saying that giving laptops to all the world's children is a >> Good Thing, >> and worthy of being called an "education project", even if they don't >> have the >> wo

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
riving at Mitch: web browsers are > available to fundamentalists of both camps. Are you suggesting that a > proprietary browser will reach more children more quickly? > > -walter > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >&g

Re: Walter leaving and shift to XP.

2008-04-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
I know quite a few children in the US who benefit from laptops running a proprietary stack. Web access is the core capability that transforms the computer from a convenience to a near necessity. Before the web, most people in developed countries had computers at work for doing "Office" stuff,

Re: freezing DCON for insecure boot

2008-04-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Hello Mitch & Scott, > > I have a laptop with a developer key, running an unsigned > image with a few customizations for Turkey. > > They want a pretty custom logo and I succeeded in getting it to > work in insecure mode, but it looks ugly because they see the > kernel bar

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ricardo Carrano wrote: > > > It is possible that the factory neglected to set the date on some > units, > > > Isn't if the same that we fixed in some units back in December? > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Fix_Clock > The problem report stated that they are able to activate the machines, but t

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > I am in Brazil at the moment, without good access to email. But since > this seems to be a firmware problem, Mitch Bradley is the right person > to help you, at this stage at least. Please check the batteries as > Mitch suggests (photos might be helpful f

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
I have been told that the Uruguay machines are supposed to have good battery holders, so my earlier suggestion about coin-cell batteries popping out of the holder might be incorrect. However, we have also seen a problem where some of the coin-cell batteries are defective, so it would be worthw

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-15 Thread Mitch Bradley
Some of the machines from the first production run had bad battery holders. Not the main battery, but rather the small "coin cell" battery on the mainboard that powers the time-of-day/calendar clock chip. Those battery holders have a plastic retention lip that holds the coin cell in place. O

Re: "Chilling Effects" paper at USENIX

2008-04-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
It would have been nice if the criticisms had been delivered directly to OLPC, instead of broadcast in a public forum, where enemies of OLPC can cite and expand on them as evidence that "OLPC is hopelessly screwed up, so you should buy our competing product instead". If you get my drift. I bel

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
Perhaps it would be better to use a letter instead of a number for the generation code (major release). When confronted with a string of several numbers, the human mind tends to blank out. For some reason, letter - number - number is easier to remember and say than number - number - number .

Re: Build Debate: Followup on Build Naming

2008-04-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
The right answer to the naming question depends on the meta-question of "what will we be releasing". Are we going to continue down the path of bundling the OS and the activities into one giant release wad, or will we split out the separate components (OS, sugar, core activities) and release the

Mailing list suggestion

2008-04-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
The OLPC devel list has a lot of people now, so I'd like to request that people send "thank you" messages directly to the person they are thanking, instead of copying the entire list. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.or

Re: any drawbacks to using copy-nand and save-nand to install XO images

2008-03-27 Thread Mitch Bradley
James Cameron wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 03:23:59PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > >> A much better strategy is to reflash an XO, boot it off of external >> media (like a USB key), make changes to the NAND, then save-nand, thus >> avoiding the first-boot configuration junk. >> > > I ag

Re: any drawbacks to using copy-nand and save-nand to install XO images

2008-03-27 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bryan Berry wrote: > Other than the fact that the firmware security has to be left disabled > to use these commands, are there any technical drawbacks to using these > commands? I use them extensively and hope I am not causing some kind of > damage to our XO's > > save/copy-nand don't preserve u

Re: UI usability for 4 year old (was Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas!)

2008-03-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> In any case, the left and right panels can't sense fingertip pressure - >> you would have to use a fingernail, and that would override

Re: UI usability for 4 year old (was Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas!)

2008-03-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
John R.Hogerhuis wrote: > ... > > Are the left and right panels pressure sensitive? If so, they could be used to > dynamically adjust the brush size/weight depending on how hard she pushes. > > You can use either the resistive sensor ( left + middle + right with stylus-class pressure) or the

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas! "Update.2 Mini-Conference"

2008-03-21 Thread Mitch Bradley
I think that Update.2 should be about 3 things: 3) Performance 2) Performance 1) Performance C. Scott Ananian wrote: > As we draw the update.1 process to a close, we need to start thinking > about where we want to go with Update.2 and beyond. There are lots of > great ideas, both here at 1cc and

Parallel reading

2008-03-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
Michael Veith wrote: > ... > Yes, right. I'd prefer a lot more books than only two. And let me > state some kind of -let's call it- insight. I see some parallels > between the manner one reads religious texts like the Bible or the > Koran and the reading of code (at least in object-oriented l

Re: permanently changing keyboard layout for forth

2008-03-15 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ties Stuij wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Ties Stuij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:12 PM > Subject: Re: permanently changing keyboard layout for forth > To: Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > On Fri,

Re: Raise the level of the Hardware specifications... or let's do some field tests!

2008-03-11 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bennett Todd wrote: > 2008-03-11T15:18:57 Jameson Chema Quinn: > >> Now that there are a significant number of laptops in Peru, high-altitude >> testing may be more feasible. What test plan would you want followed in >> order to be able to raise the specs? >> > > Surely this has to start wi

Re: Updates from Nepal's Pilot Schools

2008-03-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
Regarding the suggestion of LED bulbs - a smart person on another list said that many brands of LED bulbs are also prone to failure due to bad power - so don't treat them as a panacea. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.o

Re: I/O scheduling (pdflush) on the XO

2008-03-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
JFFS2 does automatic compression so every write invokes zlib compression. That is a rate-limiting factor on this machine - the raw NAND write speed is several times faster than the compress speed. For files with large pieces, that compression results in a 2x space savings. But JFFS2 can behav

Re: State of the update.1

2008-03-06 Thread Mitch Bradley
Richard A. Smith wrote: > C. Scott Ananian wrote: > > >> >From my brief triage of *only the blocker bugs*, ones which look >> important include: >> * trac #1407, 2804: touchpad problems >> > > These 2 will probably not make it. They are long standing issues with > the hardware. Dilinger

Re: Update.1 690 very slow on B2-7 XO

2008-02-06 Thread Mitch Bradley
Stephen Bannasch wrote: > With regard to build406.16. Can I just replace os656.crc and os656.img > in the boot dir on my USB flash stick with os406.icrc and os406.img > and startup with it? > > Will build406.16 work with q2d12? Q2D12 is compatible with all OS builds that have come out in recent

Re: Formal release methodolology

2008-02-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Feb 5, 2008 1:50 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> FYI, here is how the firmware team (i.e. Richard and I) implement the >> release-stabilization parts of the above. I do not address the formal >> testing here, just

Formal release methodolology

2008-02-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
Kim Quirk wrote: > Ok... I think what we haven't defined at this point that is probably > worthy of discussion is: > > If or when we will need formalized testing before release. > > If we decide that there is a good reason for formalized testing; then > we can put in place the process that ensure

Re: Pen Tablet firmware test doesn't work on beta2 machine

2008-02-04 Thread Mitch Bradley
Patrick Dubroy wrote: > I've got a beta2 machine, and access to a beta4 machine as well. On > the B2, when I boot into the firmware tests and get to the Pen > Tablet/Glide Sensor test, I get absolutely no response from the Pen > Tablet. The Glide Sensor (touchpad) works fine. I've also tried > runn

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-02-04 Thread Mitch Bradley
Gary Oberbrunner wrote: > subbukk wrote: > >> sftp and scp both require receiver to share login password with sender. nc >> doesn't. It just reads/writes bytestreams from/to network sockets. E.g. You >> can transfer sub-directories across machines with : >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ nc -lp |

Announcing OLPC firmware Q2D12

2008-02-02 Thread Mitch Bradley
It is Q2D11 plus a fix for http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6291 . It has Richard's latest EC improvements (as in D11). http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2d12 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [sugar] What's left for Update.1

2008-02-02 Thread Mitch Bradley
I can make a q2d12 with the fix for 6291. The fix is extremely low risk - just a change in one number that tells how far to search for additional nodes in a partially-written block. The only reason why I haven't made a q2d12 already is because I can't get to the build server - the machine "lea

Re: New update.1 build 687

2008-01-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
manually revert to q2d08 (see the instructions on the wiki page for q2d08) and remove the bootfw.zip from /versions/boot/current/boot (to keep it from autoupdating right back to d09) and the problem might go away. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Mitch Bradley wrote: > >

Re: New update.1 build 687

2008-01-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm occasionally seeing an issue with the keyboard in recent builds (no > problem on 682, I've seen problems on everything since). This is a G1G1 > laptop > Are you using Q2D09 firmware? There have been reports of strange keyboard behavior as a result of some EC c

Re: Control the +5V USB port power on the XO

2008-01-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
Arjun Sarwal wrote: > Is there a way to switch Off (and subsequently toggle) the +5V USB > power supply on the XO in software ? Yes, but it's complicated, because a) the way you do it depends on whether or not the USB 2.0 host controller has claimed the port. b) the USB port that controls the

Re: Questions about openfirmware build environment

2008-01-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
llandre wrote: > Hi all, > > I have some questions about openfirmware build environment. I could not > find these information on OLCP wiki. > I successfully cloned the git repository and built ofw on x86-64 host > running CentOS, however I'd like to understand exactly how the build > process wor

Re: joyride-1563 broken, olpc.fth missing, fails to boot [FIX]

2008-01-21 Thread Mitch Bradley
You don't really need the entire olpc.fth - the following lines should suffice: ok setenv ramdisk n:\boot\olpcrd.img ok boot n:\boot\vmlinuz root=mtd0 rootfstype=jffs2 Those lines are short enough to type manually. The rest of olpc.fth is just automated reflash and support for boot-alt. Most of

Re: Update.1 & testing

2008-01-20 Thread Mitch Bradley
Jameson "Chema" Quinn wrote: > > > Simple. Put the manual install instructions in > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Manual_Firmware_Install and then, in > each relnotes page add {{:Manual_Firmware_Install}}, which will > include the text of that page in the one it is as a template

Re: Update.1 & testing

2008-01-20 Thread Mitch Bradley
Jameson "Chema" Quinn wrote: > I know that we're supposed to all be developers here, and know how to > change the firmware in our sleep; but it would be great to include a > link to instructions. I searched the wiki - > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Manual_Firmware_Install is worse than > useless,

Re: SD card won't power up in OFW

2008-01-19 Thread Mitch Bradley
Fixed in Q2D08 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5717 David Howard wrote: > Saw a short thread with this subject in December 2007. > > I also got the "SDHCI: Card didn't power up after 1 second" message. > > The SD is a Toshiba SDHC 4GB. > > Q2D07 and 650/653/656 OS. I tried last two on the SD after

Re: Openfirmware customisation problem - booting from USB

2008-01-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
Mr frÿffe9dÿffe9ric pouchal wrote: > Hello > I would like to boot OpenFirmware from an USB key On a conventional PC or an OLPC XO? The former is supported; the latter could be made to work but will probably require some changes. > so I > changed the file > > /openfirmware/c

Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page

2008-01-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
Samuel Klein wrote: > > A serious review of Doom [fast, well-programmed, modularly-skinned, > open source] in line with educational goals would not be wasted -- my > guess is that with some art and music and sound effort, and some AI > tweaks, one could use its engine and most of its levels to prod

Re: Testing the Wireless driver changes

2008-01-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
I suppose that OFW could reset the wireless to turn it off and then do some chipset configuration hack that would make that USB port disappear. I'm just guessing though; I haven't studied the 5536 manual with this possibility in mind. That seems like a fairly horrible way to solve a Linux prob

Re: Testing the Wireless driver changes

2008-01-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
Hal Murray wrote: >> When it comes to our radio - we *designed it* to start forward frames >> soon after you initialize it and keep doing it regardless of what the >> host interface does. >> > > In the context of making the radio safe to use on airplanes... > > Does the firmware turn the radi

Re: problem compiling the firmware

2008-01-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
Mr frÿffe9dÿffe9ric pouchal wrote: > Hello > > I downloaded the firmware > > svn co svn://openbios/openfirmware > I assume you meant "openbios.org", not just "openbios". > then > > cd ./cpu/x86/pc/olpc/build > I assume you first did "cd openfirmware" > make clean > make

Re: B2s and OFW

2008-01-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > On 17.01.2008 02:02, Mitch Bradley wrote: > >> Ricardo Carrano wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Mitch! >>> >>> Would you recommend using firmware version q2d07 on a B2-1 unit? >>> >>> >

Re: B2s and OFW

2008-01-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ricardo Carrano wrote: > Hi Mitch! > > Would you recommend using firmware version q2d07 on a B2-1 unit? Yes. > > And, btw, I assume 'save-nand' in q2c25 won't create the respective > crc file, right? It did not in a test, at least. That feature first appeared in Q2D02. > > Thanks a lot! > Rica

Re: q2d08A firmware anywhere?

2008-01-13 Thread Mitch Bradley
Martin Dengler wrote: > Hi, > > I'm seeing plenty of suspend/resume problems with my G1G1 C2 laptop > (joyride-1532 with firmware q2d08), and I'd like to try the latest > firmware before I file any proper trac bug reports[1]. I can't seem > to find where to download it on the wiki (though it's bee

Re: How to change the screen resolution ?

2008-01-13 Thread Mitch Bradley
Mr frÿffe9dÿffe9ric pouchal wrote: > Hello > I would like to change the screen resoltuion of my > olpc > > I have tried to pass an argument to the kernel > video=gxfb:1024x768-16 > but it failed > The screen resolution is fixed; it can't be changed. > I also tried to test the

Re: GRUB on OLPC / XO

2008-01-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
I was wrong about the mmu thing. I just checked the patch instructions at http://openbios.org/Open_Firmware and noticed that the patch comments out "create virtual-mode". So if you build with that patch, you get physical addressing. I don't know what is "right", because this build configurat

Re: GRUB on OLPC / XO

2008-01-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
Robert Millan wrote: > > >>> We used to run "trap" insttruction on powerpc. I assume for exitting via >>> trap >>> on i386 we need to generate an interrupt; I'm just not sure which is the >>> right >>> number for it. >>> >>> >> To exit to OFW, call the "exit()" client service. >

Re: GRUB on OLPC / XO

2008-01-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
Robert Millan wrote: > Some comments on things that need polishing. Some are more addressed at one > of the two lists than the others, but feel free to join in either case. > > (also, if you feel this is off-topic in olpc-devel, feel free to ki^W let > me know) > > btw, Mitch mentioned to me on IR

Re: Weird WLAN problem after stupid upgrade attempt

2008-01-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
any more complete of a device wipe >> beyond the normal reflashing procedure using the signed build from a >> usb stick? >> >> I appreciate your help. I hope we can figure out what's up with this >> thing. >> >>

SD resume timing

2008-01-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
At today's bug status meeting, I was asked to investigate SD card resume timing from OFW. The range was 24 mS to 187 mS , depending on which SD card is plugged in. The fixed component of that time is about 5 mS, including re-initing the host controller and issuing a sequence of card commands th

Re: Announcing OLPC firmware Q2D08

2008-01-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
ffm wrote: > Will it be auto-installed when I olpc-update to latest joyride, or > will it have to be manualy installed? Manual. > > -ffm > > On Jan 9, 2008 4:33 PM, Mitch Bradley < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > http:/

Announcing OLPC firmware Q2D08

2008-01-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2d08 This firmware has a large number of mostly-minor improvements. It is a test candidate for the Update.1 release. At present, a signed version of it is not available, so only developers can install it. ___

Re: jffs zlib tuning

2008-01-07 Thread Mitch Bradley
write an asm implementation for > zlib inflate (decompression) since Mitch Bradley said that the read > speed is 3MB/sec which is dominated by the decompression code. > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2007-November/007527.html > > > Since then I went through the pain of

Re: Boot Failure

2008-01-06 Thread Mitch Bradley
The fact that it is trying to boot from the wireless device means that it didn't find /boot/olpc.fth on either USB, SD, or NAND. What happens if you type: ok dir n:\boot\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear all, > > I updated build 613 into 650 on B4 Machine. For some time, it worked > well. Howev

Re: [OT] struggles installing builds

2008-01-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
I would like to debug these problems. Find me on IRC - /server irc.oftc.net /join #olpc-devel . Instances of devices that exhibit such problems are valuable for discovering where delays are needed. If would be nice if devices conformed to the published timing requirements, but alas, many d

Re: open firmware question

2008-01-04 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Jan 2, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Ricardo Carrano wrote: > >> How do I do the opposite of copy-nand - copy the OS image _from_ the >> nand into a USB key? >> > > If you don't have OFW access or it isn't convenient to have to reboot, > you can use my 45-second Python hack

Re: Weird WLAN problem after stupid upgrade attempt

2008-01-04 Thread Mitch Bradley
#x27;ll work with you on IRC to see if we can learn more about the failure details. Mitch Bradley ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Log of Software meeting, 2008-01-03

2008-01-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
[16:00] *** now talking in #olpc-meeting [16:01] Happy New Year, everyone. [16:02] hear, hear. [16:02] You too. [16:02] evening all. [16:02] 'appy new year [16:03] Mitch_Bradley: I gather you don't have to deal with our intel friends anymore [16:03] I gather we don't have Intel friend

Re: shutting off wireless for air travel

2008-01-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
This is all documented on the wiki. See: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Airplane_mode and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_FAQ#How_do_I_disable_wireless_when_flying.3F If you don't want the wireless to restart automatically after a reboot, renaming /lib/firmware/usb8388.bin works. Ricardo Carran

Re: shutting off wireless for air travel

2008-01-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ricardo Carrano wrote: > I would suggest: > > rmmod usb8xxx > That is (or at least used to be) ineffective, as the module would just get reloaded automatically. The workaround is (was?) to rename /lib/firmware/usb8388.bin > -- > Ricardo Carrano > > > -- Original Message --- >

Re: Kernel configuration options

2008-01-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ... the biggest benefits look like they would be in > cleaning up the userspace boot process. there is a _lot_ of stuff started > that may not be needed in the stable hardware environment of the XO laptop > where there is really only one program active at a time (db

Re: Is it possible to disable the jingle at boot ?

2008-01-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Mr frÿffe9dÿffe9ric pouchal wrote: > > >> I would like to disable the jingle at boot time >> > > you can lower the volume while the jingle is playing. OFW > will store it and remember it for the next boot. > > I wish the rest of our software sta

Re: Circumventing kernel signing

2008-01-02 Thread Mitch Bradley
At some point, when these fairly obvious loopholes that we have known about since forever are closed, we plan to change the key so new machines will only run the more secure OS versions. Old machines will continue to be vulnerable until they are upgraded to new firmware with the new key, and s

Re: NAND FLASH wear-out

2008-01-02 Thread Mitch Bradley
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Mitch Bradley wrote: > >> The part is rated for 100,000 *erase* cycles per block. There are 64 >> independently-writable 2K pages per block. Writing doesn't count in the &g

Re: open firmware question

2008-01-02 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ricardo Carrano wrote: > How do I do the opposite of copy-nand - copy the OS image _from_ the nand > into a USB key? > ok save-nand u:\foo.img > -- > Ricardo Carrano > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/lis

Re: Kernel configuration options

2008-01-02 Thread Mitch Bradley
John Richard Moser wrote: > Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > >> Tom Sylla wrote: >> >> >>> http://openbios.org/viewvc/cpu/x86/pc/olpc/lxmsrs.fth?view=markup&revision=739&root=OpenFirmware >>> has: >>> msr: .1810 fdfff000.fd000111. \ Video (write through), fbsize >>> >>> which is setting t

Re: Updates API documentation for everything.

2008-01-01 Thread Mitch Bradley
Edward Cherlin wrote: > >> Does anybody know of a documentation tool for Open Firmware, or for >> FORTH more generally? Exploring using 'words' and 'see' >> > > is fun up to a point if you're learning FORTH, but really doesn't cut > it for supporting documentation. > I presume that you ha

Re: Kernel configuration options

2008-01-01 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Mitch Bradley wrote: > > >> From a security standpoint, there is an advantage to building in >> everything. The main kernel is verified with a crypto signature before >> it is executed. Loading a module without first verifying a &g

Re: Kernel configuration options

2008-01-01 Thread Mitch Bradley
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > Mitch Bradley wrote: > >> From a security standpoint, there is an advantage to building in >> everything. The main kernel is verified with a crypto signature before >> it is executed. Loading a module without first verifying a >&

Re: Kernel configuration options

2008-01-01 Thread Mitch Bradley
From a security standpoint, there is an advantage to building in everything. The main kernel is verified with a crypto signature before it is executed. Loading a module without first verifying a similarly-strong signature weakens the security. Modules are a good idea for kernels that are int

Re: OLPC News 2007-12-30

2007-12-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
Richard A. Smith wrote: > Mitch Bradley wrote: > >>> Richard noticed that on the community-development list there are at >>> least two reports of the EC going "terminal", meaning that on boot >>> they get the error message: "EC problem. Remove

Re: OLPC News 2007-12-30

2007-12-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
Jaya Kumar wrote: > On Dec 31, 2007 3:23 AM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> resetting without the EC's knowledge. There is a 2-line patch in the >> ticket; it makes the kernel reboot using the approved EC interaction. >> > > Lo

Re: OLPC News 2007-12-30

2007-12-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
> Richard noticed that on the community-development list there are at > least two reports of the EC going "terminal", meaning that on boot > they get the error message: "EC problem. Remove all power and > restart." We need to get those machines to Cambridge to investigate > further. > It is un

Re: How can the XO be made accessible to blind

2007-12-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
David W Hogg wrote: > On a somewhat related note, is there any way to attach an external > monitor to the XO? I would love to give my astronomy research > seminars in the spring from my G1G1 XO; but this would also be useful > for those with impaired sight (some of my colleagues need to immensely

Re: I got a developer key -- now what? :)

2007-12-28 Thread Mitch Bradley
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > Chris Ball wrote: > >> Hi, >> >>> I signed up for a developer key, so I have one now. But what can I >>> do with it? >> >> You can do anything that you'd expect to do with a standard laptop; >> install any operating system, and flash a new BIOS. >> >>

NAND FLASH wear-out

2007-12-28 Thread Mitch Bradley
> >> I would hate to fill up my 1GB and use all my flash write cycles... >> The probability of wearing out NAND FLASH is much less than people seem to think. The part is rated for 100,000 *erase* cycles per block. There are 64 independently-writable 2K pages per block. Writing doesn't c

Re: 3rd Fedora disk curdle

2007-12-27 Thread Mitch Bradley
This reminds me of a situation I ran into about a zillion years ago, using V6 Unix: The filesystem and the swapper disagreed about the boundary between the FS and swap areas, so parts of the FS were getting swapped onto. I suppose something like that might be possible with certain pathologic

Re: SD card won't power up in OFW

2007-12-26 Thread Mitch Bradley
I think we will need to debug this problem interactively on IRC. The card detection is fairly complicated, depending on v1 vs. v2 SD physical layer, MMC vs SD, SD vs SDHC, and on the set of operating voltages that the card supports. There are too many code paths for me to guess which one is b

Re: SD card won't power up in OFW

2007-12-26 Thread Mitch Bradley
ep through OFW's card prober. Mitch Bradley James Lee wrote: > I hope this isn't a bad place to post this. > > I have a Kingston 4GB Class 4 SDHC card which I'd like to use with my XO > (flashing, alternate distros, etc), but it does not seem to work in OFW. > Factor

Re: Is DRM on every G1G1 laptop?

2007-12-24 Thread Mitch Bradley
John Gilmore wrote: > Please note that there are users like me who have the exact problem > described by http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5558. I have been > totally __unable__ to gain access to the Open Firmware "ok" prompt. > > Please read the top section o

Re: XO touchpad

2007-12-24 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ross Andrews wrote: > I got my laptop through G1G1 last week, and I've been trying to play > with all the neat facets of the hardware, but I'm unable to get the > other mode of the touchpad (the stylus mode) to do anything. Is there > a particular activity that uses it? Is there some way I ca

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