Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-02-02 Thread Tiago Marques
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno > wrote: > > > >> > AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight > >> > AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-02-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Jordan Crouse wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: > >> National Semiconductor, which bought the line from Cyrix. I edited >> several of the pin- and register-level manuals for various chips for >> them more than ten years ago, and updates of my work are still online >>

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-31 Thread Jordan Crouse
Edward Cherlin wrote: > National Semiconductor, which bought the line from Cyrix. I edited > several of the pin- and register-level manuals for various chips for > them more than ten years ago, and updates of my work are still online > on the AMD Web site. OLPC has educated AMD on how to use the >

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-28 Thread Jerome Gotangco
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > say those four magic words, sell the XO via geek online stores, and > 1CC will be so slashdotted to high heck with orders that the waiting > list will take years to fill out. At similar price points, the XO-1 > puts the Nintendo DS, Tapwave

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-28 Thread Jerome Gotangco
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Support? real men don't need no steeenkin manuals or directions! just > ship em in a plain cardboard box with a power adaptor and all will be > good to go! This unfortunately, is the point of view of a technical elitist (no I'm not pointin

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-28 Thread Tiago Marques
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > > People say they buy computers to work, but by and large they really > > buy them to play. And geodes > > wont run modern games so they aren't selling. > > Before the term DDOS came into use, there was only the Slashdot effect > where ent

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Bobby Powers wrote: > I believe there are technical or supply chain reasons that make it > more difficult than just swapping out the NAND chips. Not to be rude, > but you're not the first one who has thought of this :) Lot of people assume mfg is easy. It is inc

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-28 Thread Bobby Powers
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: >> People say they buy computers to work, but by and large they really >> buy them to play. And geodes >> wont run modern games so they aren't selling. > > Before the term DDOS came into use, there was only the Slashdot effect > where entire

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-28 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > Also, here's something Jerome Gotangco over at OLPC Ph has noticed > after sticking in Teapot's Xubuntu XO Intrepid Ibex liveSD: Battery > life seems to have gone down a lot. We have power management software specific to the XO, and the Ubuntu build doesn't use it. - Chris. -- Ch

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-28 Thread david
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Also, here's something Jerome Gotangco over at OLPC Ph has noticed > after sticking in Teapot's Xubuntu XO Intrepid Ibex liveSD: Battery > life seems to have gone down a lot. one reason for this is that the power management for the XO is still tied u

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-28 Thread Carlos Nazareno
> People say they buy computers to work, but by and large they really > buy them to play. And geodes > wont run modern games so they aren't selling. Before the term DDOS came into use, there was only the Slashdot effect where entire servers would melt down because of the sheer number of geeks a l

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/1/27 Benjamin M. Schwartz : > Carlos Nazareno wrote: >> Do ARM processors do these things better than anything else on the >> market right now? but then you lose the X86 compatibility and this >> probably breaks things for cross-platform upstream contributions for >> any deved/researched write

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: >>> AMD bought the Geode business from another company. > > National Semiconductor, which bought the line from Cyrix. I edited > several of the pin- and register-level manuals for various chips for > them more than ten years ago, For Nation

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno >> wrote: >> >>> > AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight >>> > AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread John Watlington
On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno > wrote: > >>> AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight >>> AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low- >>> power >>> chips that are used in netbooks and set-top boxe

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Sameer Verma
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > >> > AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight >> > AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low-power >> > chips that are used in netbooks and set-top boxes. >

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Do ARM processors do these things better than anything else on the > market right now? but then you lose the X86 compatibility and this > probably breaks things for cross-platform upstream contributions for > any deved/researched write-once-run-many apps/projects. (correct

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Jerome Gotangco
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Looks like AMD's going to be pulling out of the low-power computing > space because of the economic crunch. At least they're not completely shutting down the fabrication of existing technologies that would still need Geode-type of componen

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Mitch Bradley
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > > AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight > > AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low-power > > chips that are used in netbooks and set-top boxes. > > http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/274414/amd_sees_no_g

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Tiago Marques
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > it's the low power part that's very important here. it's the XO's > incredibly low power consumption that really sets it apart from any > other currently in production computer (excluding smartphones and > pdas). Of course! But, I was qui

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Carlos Nazareno
it's the low power part that's very important here. it's the XO's incredibly low power consumption that really sets it apart from any other currently in production computer (excluding smartphones and pdas). I'm not really familiar with the new processors from Intel (silverthorne, diamondville) and

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight > AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low-power > chips that are used in netbooks and set-top boxes. > http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/274414/amd_sees_no_geode_chip

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Tiago Marques
Hi. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno > wrote: > >e of the economic crunch. > > > > This is completely wrong and low-power + efficiency is exactly where > > all computing should go. multicore GHz monsters should be sold t

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Kesselman
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: >e of the economic crunch. > > This is completely wrong and low-power + efficiency is exactly where > all computing should go. multicore GHz monsters should be sold to > people who really need them and not to joe average who just needs to > s

AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Carlos Nazareno
AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low-power chips that are used in netbooks and set-top boxes. http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/274414/amd_sees_no_geode_chip_replacement_sight Looks like AMD's going to be pulling out of th