Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 02:16, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 09:41:32AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: Wifi disappearing after switching back and forth from sugar to gnome. I've not tried to track down the original problem report that you are referring to,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable (was: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1)

2010-08-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: I know I'm repeating myself here but I find the attitude expressed in these instructions and particularly point 3 troublesome and a continued source of frustration for me as well as other people I've

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Thu, 8/5/10, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: From: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Subject: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1 To: Fedora OLPC fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com Cc: test...@lists.laptop.org, Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 2:45 PM http

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread Ed McNierney
On Aug 8, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: (instructions for the olpcnews.com/forum/ kind of people would be appreciated...:-) Instructions: 1. Report bugs at http://dev.laptop.org/newticket - if necessary, register first at http://dev.laptop.org/register (as mavrothal

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: From: Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org Subject: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1 To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com Cc: Fedora OLPC fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org, Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, test

Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable (was: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1)

2010-08-08 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: Instructions: 1. Report bugs at http://dev.laptop.org/newticket - if necessary, register first at http://dev.laptop.org/register (as mavrothal kindly points out) 2. If you have interesting experiences or user information to

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread Ed McNierney
Yioryos - You asked for instructions for the olpcnews.com/forum/ kind of people, and that's the information I provided. I wasn't dismissing or ignoring anything; if we widely disseminate those instructions and they are followed, bugs will be far less likely to be dismissed or ignored. But a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable (was: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1)

2010-08-08 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: Instructions: 1. Report bugs at http://dev.laptop.org/newticket - if necessary, register first at http://dev.laptop.org/register (as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable (was: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1)

2010-08-08 Thread Tim McNamara
On 9 August 2010 09:09, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: Instructions: 1. Report bugs at http://dev.laptop.org/newticket - if necessary, register first at http://dev.laptop.org/register (as

Re: Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable (was: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1)

2010-08-08 Thread Ed McNierney
Christoph - (you're talking about OLPC and SugarLabs, of course, but I'm only responding from an OLPC perspective) There's a difference between approachable and findable. Every member of the OLPC technical staff is on the de...@laptop.org mailing list, and we all see bugs filed in trac. I

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread Ed McNierney
So if you please go back to the original mail and answer any question you think you can so tickets can be filed. No, no reflexes - the only other question in that email I can answer immediately is, no, there is planned printing support in 10.1.2 or later. I have not heard of anyone

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: From: Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org Subject: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1 To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com Cc: Fedora OLPC fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org, Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, test

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable (was: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1)

2010-08-08 Thread Brenda Wallace
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: 1. Report bugs at http://dev.laptop.org/newticket - if

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable (was: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1)

2010-08-08 Thread Ed McNierney
Brenda - I'm assuming your teachers and education ministry decision makers don't normally interact with OLPC by asking questions on OLPCNews forums, which was the context and the specific question I was answering. The topic of, what are all the ways all interested parties worldwide

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable (was: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1)

2010-08-08 Thread Brenda Wallace
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: But it is absolutely true that anyone who is volunteering (or getting paid) to test OLPC software and hardware should know how to submit a trac ticket.   That is the mechanism we use to track reported problems, so using trac

Re: Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable (was: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1)

2010-08-08 Thread Ed McNierney
Every member of the OLPC technical staff is on the de...@laptop.org mailing list, and we all see bugs filed in trac. Sorry - that's not correct. I forgot that Mitch Bradley unsubscribed from de...@laptop.org last December, as he found the noise level has gotten out of control. He does,

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Sun, 8/8/10, Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org wrote: From: Ed McNierney e...@laptop.org Subject: Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1 To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com Cc: Fedora OLPC fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org, Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, test

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 09:41:32AM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: Wifi disappearing after switching back and forth from sugar to gnome. I've not tried to track down the original problem report that you are referring to, but Sugar and GNOME manage connection to an access point without

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 05:08:48PM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: Where should someone look for relevant problem info if this reappears, so a ticket can be filed? It depends on how the problem is reported. Best thing is a description of the steps that lead to the problem, including each

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 05:37:14PM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: The issue is not loss of an access point, and in my case at least, connection was established in both environments before lost during the switch. The issue is I lost eth0 altogether both from sugar and gnome. Mesh was

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
switching between the desktop environments will certainly cause one of the following: ... 2. loss of association and no reassociation (the other desktop hasn't been told to trust the access point). When phrases such as trust the access point start being used, I have great difficulty

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread John Watlington
Mikus, OLPC/Sugarlabs did not introduce that terminology. Take your wrath out on Linux and Apple (and possibly M$, I don't use Windows enough to know if they have also adopted that phrase.) My Mac doesn't ask if I want to use an AP, it asks me if I trust an AP. It then remembers that AP as

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-08 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 09:52:28PM -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: switching between the desktop environments will certainly cause one of the following: ... 2. loss of association and no reassociation (the other desktop hasn't been told to trust the access point). When phrases such as

Re: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-06 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Thu, 8/5/10, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: From: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Subject: OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1 To: Fedora OLPC fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com Cc: test...@lists.laptop.org, Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 2:45 PM http

OLPC 10.1.2 Release Candidate 1

2010-08-05 Thread Chris Ball
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.2 http://build.laptop.org/10.1.2/xo-1.5/os850 http://build.laptop.org/10.1.2/xo-1/os850 Compressed image size: 704.70mb (+14.05mb since build 304) This is the first release candidate for the 10.1.2 software release, which runs on both XO-1 and