Re: AIR + Flash/AIR issues wikis

2010-06-07 Thread John Gilmore
There's a long standing hard bug of non-accelerated video on Linux (not just XO). That hurts hurts HURTS any Linux device. There is some backstory on that -- it's whether to use Xv or not, whether the video frames can be grabbed from the Xv pipeline to overlay stuff on top or not - early

Re: Flash,Gnash,AIR: which builds to test against?

2010-06-07 Thread rihowa...@gmail.com
So what is the status of OS15 build that was posted June 15th in Steve Parrish's directory? On Jun 6, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Paul Fox wrote: carlos wrote: Hi guys! There's a number of different builds up on the OLPC pages right now: * OLPC 802 (Sugar 0.84) * OLPC F11 - OS11 * Paraguay F11

Re: Flash,Gnash,AIR: which builds to test against?

2010-06-07 Thread rihowa...@gmail.com
Whoops, meant to say posted June 5th, not 15th ... On Jun 6, 2010, at 11:47 PM, rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: So what is the status of OS15 build that was posted June 15th in Steve Parrish's directory? On Jun 6, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Paul Fox wrote: carlos wrote: Hi guys! There's a number

Re: Flash,Gnash,AIR: which builds to test against?

2010-06-07 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 11:47:13PM -0700, rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: So what is the status of OS15 build that was posted June 15th in Steve Parrish's directory? No public announcement seen, but the file is there, and much larger than os14. A healthy size. ;-)

Re: Flash,Gnash,AIR: which builds to test against?

2010-06-07 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
So what is the status of OS15 build that was posted June 15th in Steve Parrish's directory? It works. mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: schematic for olpc

2010-06-07 Thread imm
On 6 Jun 2010, at 21:42, Michael Shiloh wrote: I'm interested in exploring the use of the microphone jack for other input devices. Before I start plugging things in at random, I need to understand what the circuitry at the input looks like. I assume the schematics can be found on the

Re: schematic for olpc

2010-06-07 Thread Richard Smith
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Michael Shiloh michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested in exploring the use of the microphone jack for other input devices. Before I start plugging things in at random, I need to understand what the circuitry at the input looks like. I assume the

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: In another thread, we've been discussing the issue that Fedora 12 changed base architecture from i586 to i686. The XO-1 processor (Geode LX) is a i586. Fedora 12 seems to run OK (although I suspect there will be a few broken

Attention Activity Developers: SoaS Activity Inclusion Criteria

2010-06-07 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi all, at today's SoaS meeting [1], we agreed on applying the SoaS Activity Inclusion Criteria [2] as outlined in the wiki to the activity selection for the upcoming release of SoaS v.4. We'd like to encourage you to work towards meeting these goals and to submit your proposals for activities

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Jon Nettleton
2) FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) is dealing with the issue upstream [1][2] in Fedora with the view of getting it fixed upstream for F-14 or at the very least clarified. It was agreed in F-12 that the Geode LX would be supported and that decision wasn't discussed otherwise.

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On 7 June 2010 18:33, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: 1) I thought we'd moved away from rolling our own distro due to the amount of time and engineering resources it required that OLPC no longer had. Has this changed? IE is there an internal thing that has changed that hasn't been

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: 2) FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) is dealing with the issue upstream [1][2] in Fedora with the view of getting it fixed upstream for F-14 or at the very least clarified. Good to hear there's a good chance

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Tiago Marques
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.comwrote: 2) FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) is dealing with the issue upstream [1][2] in Fedora with the view of getting it fixed upstream for F-14 or at the very least clarified. It was agreed in F-12 that

Re: AIR + Flash/AIR issues wikis

2010-06-07 Thread Tiago Marques
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 7:02 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: There's a long standing hard bug of non-accelerated video on Linux (not just XO). That hurts hurts HURTS any Linux device. There is some backstory on that -- it's whether to use Xv or not, whether the video frames can be

Re: challenges of distro switching

2010-06-07 Thread Tiago Marques
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: A mountain of packages and their corresponding effects on the system, ... It also invalidates many processes that myself and others have been

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: 2) FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) is dealing with the issue upstream [1][2] in Fedora with the view of getting it fixed

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 7 June 2010 18:33, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: 1) I thought we'd moved away from rolling our own distro due to the amount of time and engineering resources it required that OLPC no longer had. Has this

Re: [Sugar-devel] Attention Activity Developers: SoaS Activity Inclusion Criteria

2010-06-07 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 11:54:45PM +0200, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: at today's SoaS meeting [1], we agreed on applying the SoaS Activity Inclusion Criteria [2] as outlined in the wiki [...] You've decided to apply as policy a draft document which describes itself as not reflecting policy.

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread John Gilmore
I looked at the kernel patch for emulating the missing instruction (long NOP). It looks like it works, and only needs minor patching-up for security enforcement. The big argument on the Linux kernel list was about not having a little kludge like this, which is likely to grow to emulate many

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 07:19:43PM -0300, Daniel Drake wrote: In this case, the Fedora packages are now unusable, so rebuilding them would be needed. I'm not sure that this counts as progressing to rolling our own distro since the rebuild would be fully automatic, and that the end result would

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Paul Fox
john wrote: I looked at the kernel patch for emulating the missing instruction (long NOP). It looks like it works, and only needs minor patching-up for security enforcement. The big argument on the Linux kernel list was about not having a little kludge like this, which is likely to

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 10:07:07PM -0400, Paul Fox wrote: i agree with john -- we should definitely try the kernel emulation, and try and gather some statistics on how often it fires, or other easy metric. i'll bet the cost is low. Cool, please provide a kernel RPM for testing. ;-) --

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:49 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: I looked at the kernel patch for emulating the missing instruction (long NOP).  It looks like it works, and only needs minor patching-up for security enforcement.  The big argument on the Linux kernel list was about not having a

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On 7 June 2010 17:58, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: In this case, the Fedora packages are now unusable, so rebuilding them would be needed. I'm not sure that this counts as progressing to rolling our own distro since the rebuild would be fully automatic, and that the end result

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Daniel Drake
On 7 June 2010 20:05, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: You are placing far more trust in a trivial rebuild than I would.  Once Fedora ceases testing the actual instruction streams we will be using, we will be providing the testing instead.  There are some interesting classes of bugs that

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread John Gilmore
2) FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) is dealing with the issue upstream [1][2] in Fedora with the view of getting it fixed upstream for F-14 or at the very least clarified. It was agreed in F-12 that the Geode LX would be supported and that decision wasn't discussed otherwise.

Re: schematic for olpc

2010-06-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
On 06/07/2010 06:46 AM, imm wrote: On 6 Jun 2010, at 21:42, Michael Shiloh wrote: I'm interested in exploring the use of the microphone jack for other input devices. Before I start plugging things in at random, I need to understand what the circuitry at the input looks like. I assume

Re: schematic for olpc

2010-06-07 Thread Michael Shiloh
On 06/07/2010 07:47 AM, Richard Smith wrote: On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Michael Shiloh michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested in exploring the use of the microphone jack for other input devices. Before I start plugging things in at random, I need to understand what the

Re: [IAEP] Attention Activity Developers: SoaS Activity Inclusion Criteria

2010-06-07 Thread Sameer Verma
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Hi all, at today's SoaS meeting [1], we agreed on applying the SoaS Activity Inclusion Criteria [2] as outlined in the wiki to the activity selection for the upcoming release of SoaS v.4. We'd like to encourage you