Re: using libertas_tf with F11 on XO-1

2010-06-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Assim Deodia wrote: > I am trying to load libertas_tf_usb module on XO-1 to use it as an AP. > but when I modprobe libertas_tf_usb (after unloading libertas and usb8xxx Hi Assim! I don't think many people have been playing with it recently -- though it is importa

Re: Alternative option for solving Fedora i686 vs geode problems

2010-06-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > 2) FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) is dealing with the > issue upstream [1][2] in Fedora with the view of getting it fixed > upstream for F-14 or at the very least clarified. Good to hear there's a good chance that F14 will sup

Re: challenges of distro switching

2010-06-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > A mountain of packages and their corresponding effects on the system, ... > It also invalidates many processes that myself and others have been > training in the field, such as usage of rpm/yum, how to write spec > files, etc. These two poin

Re: AIR + Flash/AIR issues wikis

2010-06-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > For those of you who've successfully installed AIR, can you email me > in private with the steps you went through (and on which OS/image) so > I can put it on the Wiki? Good effort. The trick is -- roughly -- to - take an XO with the desi

RelNotes for "8.2.2" -

2010-05-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi list, While I am waiting for Q2E44, I've drafted a relnotes page for "8.2.2" -- here http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff/Release_notes/8.2.2 . The script used to create it is at http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/image-builder/ and the rpms and activities involved at http://dev.l

802b6 - saga continues...

2010-05-19 Thread Martin Langhoff
I have uploaded 802b6 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ -- special thanks to NZ testers! This update includes some changes made based on your feedback. Changes in this build: - Write has been fixed, by rolling back the libxml2 upgrade. This breaks "modern" versions of GCompris -- use

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] touchpad section for Sugar Control Panel

2010-05-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > I've attached two patches: (1) a new touchpad section for the control > panel and (2) new icons for sugar-artwork used by the control panel. Bravo! -- any chances can you add a slider control for acceleration? We're shipping hardcoded value

Re: Announcing Q2E43 firmware for XO-1

2010-05-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e43 is a candidate for a > general-availability firmware release for XO-1.  It fixes problems found > during testing of q2e42, which was not intended for general availability > (because we suspected i

Re: touchpad woes: quick fix?

2010-05-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > the OLPC world headquarters corporate penthouse suite Ah, the pampering! How you guys suffer. Come to the Miami "sweatshop" to repro sometime ;-) Our office here is also airconditioned to the max, but you can go out and feel the humidity and he

Reset the resolver cache after bringing up the network

2010-05-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Lists, A while ago dsd reported that after an initial "failed" registration, it registration was broken. This turned out to be after registering with no network, or with an invalid network. This is tracked in http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1940 (and in a few places in OLPC's trac too). Clear

Re: #10045 HIGH 1.5-sof: XO-1.5 Record audio/video are out of sync with each other

2010-05-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:46 AM, James Cameron wrote: > With the 250Mb test I've been doing, this causes 8 seconds in dd, 147 > seconds in sync, and a nice distribution of write latencies (largest > samples 0.2s 0.1s 44ms 15ms 8ms, median 85us, smallest sample 80us). Great! Must say that dirty_ra

Re: #10045 HIGH 1.5-sof: XO-1.5 Record audio/video are out of sync with each other

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:41 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Yes, significantly.  What I've observed is most likely entirely due to > vm.dirty_* behaviour. Interesting! There was discussion on the kernel list (reported on lwn iirc) about how to tweak this to improve behaviour under heavy write scenar

Re: Idle-suspend a little too intrusive to user experience?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:59 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> > just fix the kernel so the suspend >> > ends when the next process wants to run. >> >> Have a look at powertop -- you'll never suspend, there are several >> hundred wakeups per second. > > Did we give up on fixing these? No, and as Ben men

Re: #10045 HIGH 1.5-sof: XO-1.5 Record audio/video are out of sync with each other

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:56 PM, James Cameron wrote: > No.  Most writes pass in a time consistent with caching, and the latency > is so small that I'm certain they aren't reaching the media (60us). > It's only some writes that are delayed by 600ms to 3000ms. What you are saying is that this is a

Re: Idle-suspend a little too intrusive to user experience?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:09 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > just fix the kernel so the suspend > ends when the next process wants to run. Have a look at powertop -- you'll never suspend, there are several hundred wakeups per second. If you want to do better than super-idling the way that recent kerne

Re: #10045 HIGH 1.5-sof: XO-1.5 Record audio/video are out of sync with each other

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > I previously went even deeper: > http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9688 Um, ugly. Wad seems to blame the SD card there -- his scripts possibly favour cards with longer life, even if writes are slow. Does this get better with a Class 6 card? cheer

Re: #10045 HIGH 1.5-sof: XO-1.5 Record audio/video are out of sync with each other

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:23 PM, James Cameron wrote: > No, no Sugar log files are opened O_SYNC at the moment.  I fixed that. > > The test also reproduces without Sugar running, and also in single user > mode.  This excludes Sugar and all user-space, suggesting the problem is > isolatable to or a

Re: Review & pull request: dracut-modules-olpc

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/dracut-modules-olpc/log/?h=clockset-pyx > > Tested on an XO-1.5 on top of build 121. The branch includes > >  - Greplease patch so that the right lease is picked form huge > lease.

Re: #10045 HIGH 1.5-sof: XO-1.5 Record audio/video are out of sync with each other

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:37 AM, James Cameron wrote: > I've no explanation for this behaviour. Do we still have some (sugar?) log files opened 'sync'? ext3/4 still 'fsync' the whole partition, which may explain the erratic performance. Linus has been railing against this (with the "FF freezes l

Re: Mesh network between xo1 and 1.5?

2010-05-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Sorry, the 1.5 machine doesn't support 802.11s yet, so it needs to > use ad-hoc or managed mode to talk to an XO-1. So either get both on the same Access Point, or, if you don't have an access point... - On the XO-1.5, use the "create a new ne

Re: XO 1.5 frequency scaling

2010-05-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > Let me see if I understand what you said. I understand how it works on > desktop and regular laptops. You load the module for the specific power > saving feature and either a kernel module to do the job I am far from being a true expert in th

Re: XO 1.5 frequency scaling

2010-05-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > I have been wondering for some time how are you controlling the frequency of > the C7 processor in Fedora. Is this being done in the background by LWN recently did a nice post on "idle". That should give you good background info. AIUI, the j

Re: Review & pull request: dracut-modules-olpc

2010-04-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > Maybe I asked this already, but I can't find the discussion. When the > server communicates the time to the XO and the XO sets the clock based > on that, shouldn't the XO verify that the delegation has not expired? > By that I mean it should r

Re: Review & pull request: dracut-modules-olpc

2010-04-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/dracut-modules-olpc/log/?h=clockset-pyx > > Tested on an XO-1.5 on top of build 121. The branch includes Add 2 patches on top that include the ctypes implementation and switch to it. P

Re: Q3a36c.rom

2010-04-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Richard A. Smith wrote: > Oops.  If it holds up. I'll release a 37 tomorrow. Make sure it includes Daniel's fix to delegated sigs checking. A buffer was too short, and bits spilled all over, complicating use of antitheft magic and staining the carpet. n -- ma

Review & pull request: dracut-modules-olpc

2010-04-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/martin/dracut-modules-olpc/log/?h=clockset-pyx Tested on an XO-1.5 on top of build 121. The branch includes - Greplease patch so that the right lease is picked form huge lease.sig files are with mmap instead of parsing it into memory (and OOM'ing in the process).

Re: Testing & rebuilding dracut-modules-olpc?

2010-04-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > Yeah, using the dracut program. You can find the exact command used in > the kernel spec file. Yep - I remembered that, and just grabbed it. However, it's not just that -- on an XO you ./configure --prefix /usr make && make install dracut

Re: [Server-devel] OATs delegations -- change in procedure -- need to use sig01 format too...

2010-04-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > What exactly needs fixing? I guessed xs-activation-server but that > already looks OK (oat.py reads the UUID from the OATS delegation). All fixed now, see my earlier messages. The truncated "needs fixing" was related to the brokenness of dynl

Testing & rebuilding dracut-modules-olpc?

2010-04-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
Porting some patches to d-m-o... - Is there a handy way to test changes to dracut-modules-olpc without building an RPM and installing it? (Other than unpacking / repacking the initramfs by hand with cpio, naturally...) - How is this package built / maintained? I have gotten as far as: - edi

Re: Pyrex experts? Looking to expose settimeofday() and RTC_SET_TIME ioctl()

2010-04-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > I don't have any ctypes experience, but from what I read, it looks Just to make sure there's water before anyone jumps. What impact would it have in our initramfs? Does it expect header files to do its job? Does it require new modules / so f

Re: Pyrex experts? Looking to expose settimeofday() and RTC_SET_TIME ioctl()

2010-04-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > I wouldn't have thought pyrex is necessary. I suggest using > fnctl.ioctl() for RTC_SET_TIME, and ctypes for settimeofday(). Our chvt() is in pyrex, and all it does is call ioctl() on /dev/console. If there's a better way to call ioctl() then

Re: [Server-devel] problems installing xs-activation on F12

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: >> http://fedora.laptop.org/xs/stable/olpc/xs-0.6/i386/xs-activation-0.2.39.g2277cdf-1.xs9.noarch.rpm Setup a yum repo pointing at http://fedora.laptop.org/xsrepos/testin

olpc-bios-crypto: new f-9 and f-11 builds.

2010-04-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
The recent changes to antitheft-related scripts and various bugfixen are now rolled into a new RPM for F-9 (available in the olpcxs-testing repo), and I have also rolled a F11 RPM that works well in F12 as well. Unfortunately, Daniel's work to make the binaries use nice dynamically loaded librarie

Pyrex experts? Looking to expose settimeofday() and RTC_SET_TIME ioctl()

2010-04-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
I am porting some awkward patches I have against the old olpc initramfs to the new dracut-based, all bling initramfs. The python part is mostly done, but the fun part is that we're trying to set the clock (both system clock and rtc) based on network messages. The general approach in our initramfs

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 121

2010-04-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Tiago Marques wrote: > Tap to click is still working for me after using olpc-upgrade. Can you tell us the output of uname -a, to confirm you got the new kernel in place? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect -

Re: Pain building olpc-update rpm

2010-04-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On 25 April 2010 03:16, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> Right now, if you do clone of the olpc-update repo, and try to build >> it... well, it doesn't work very well. > > Pretty sure you're looking at the wrong re

Re: olpc-os-builder .iso output - usable@

2010-04-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > Had an interesting question from Sebastian M here in La Rioja... > > The .iso output of olpc-os-builder (and published on build.laptop.org) > -- is it useful? Can it be run in emulation? Has anyone tried? Is it easy to build with an extra (va

Triage #10118 - OFW bug with delegated leases

2010-04-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
Current OFW has a bug in its delegated lease support http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10118 which affects one of our headline features for the 10.x.y series. Not sure how high antitheft ranks for 10.2.0 (10.1.1?)... cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Archit

Pain building olpc-update rpm

2010-04-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
Right now, if you do clone of the olpc-update repo, and try to build it... well, it doesn't work very well. - First, you have to know to "make mock". That's an easy makefile read ;-) - You need to handcraft your .gitmodules and then git submodule init ; git submodule update . Make your .gitmodule

Re: [Server-devel] Roadblocks for a central OATS server

2010-04-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > As discussed we're planning on putting a central internet-accessible > OATS server in La Rioja, in addition to the ones in the schools. Excellent! > 1. Our central internet-accessible server for this task runs Fedora 12 > and will need to be

Re: [Server-devel] make-server-delegations output and importing to XS

2010-04-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > OK, no problem. > Just curious though, whats the justification behind this? is there an > existing project that runs in this way? > The single file model just doesn't seem so scalable. Thanks! If we have a utility script that splits up such

Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > To me, the greatest drawback to the existing icon(s) is that they do not > show the channel.  If you have three icons, for heaven's sake draw them > with static symbols ("1", "6", "11") to show where a connection would be > attempted. I l

Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > based on the discussion in this thread I have created a first patch > attached to ticket #9845 [1] implementing the three default ad hoc > networks for channel 1, 6 and 11. A screenshot can be found there, too. > There are a few open ques

Re: libdlo

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:26 AM, John Watlington wrote: >   You want us to add software to our build so that > you can support an $89 USB peripheral that requires > a separate screen, keyboard, and mouse ? OTOH, we are including some drivers for usbvga devices -- useful if there's an ext monitor

Re: [Server-devel] Collaboration server for existing network

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > Just checked git, I had to touch also idmanager.py in order to have it > respect the variable in the config file. > /BIND_ADDRESS/#BIND_ADDRESS Ok. So you had to unset the default value... then the code block below that (Config.__init__()), wh

Re: [IAEP] Long-term development strategy (Was: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119)

2010-04-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > And there is a perfect reason for a stable distro such as RHEL or CentOS :-) :-) Two quick things I want to inject into this conversation. - Timing affects this decision. We're not in the abstract -- this is _now_. If RHEL6/CentOS6 is re

Re: tap-to-click feedback

2010-04-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Richard Smith wrote: > Who are the ones that like it?  I don't remember any good feedback. +1 m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code f

Re: tap-to-click feedback

2010-04-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Sebastian Silva wrote: > BTW how do you disable it? Yeah -- can we disable it easily on F11 builds? m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working

Re: Troubles reconnecting new ALPS controller

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:10 PM, John Watlington wrote: > I believe that if you examine the connector and the part that came off > carefully, you can reattach them.   Again, it could also have been ripped > off in a manner that broke it. I had similar connectors on other XOs come off (but intact)

Re: using XO for Internet Math Tutoring

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Stanley Sokolow wrote: > A bug report on the camera problem with FlashPlayer 10 on the XO-1 was > submitted 19 months ago to the OLPC Trac and nothing's been done with it Didn't know that there was an existing bug report. Great! We see a lot of problems mentione

Re: using XO for Internet Math Tutoring

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Stanley Sokolow wrote: > maybe getting FlashPlayer to > run correctly on Sugar is a non-issue by now I think it Just Works, but if there are technical issues we will be interested in hearing about them and exploring solutions. Let us know how it goes, file bugs a

Re: using XO for Internet Math Tutoring

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi, sorry I'm brief (to the unfortunate point of rudeness) -- I am working 30hr days in a 60K deployment. Which happens to want to use Flash. In fact I just helped the local team find adobe.com and we are adding the relevant rpm to the build. I find it puzzling that there is so much over the top

Re: tool elitism

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: >>>And shiny distracts. > > Then write an app that's not shiny. Can you please get over your gut > revulsion? I have the same reaction to Macs. Ok gentlemen. Let's put things this way -- we are cluttering the development list of olpc just as

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 119

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > In the longer term its likely that it will be. The libraries in CentOS > 5 are too old. The problem is that RHEL-6 isn't out yet, nor is there At least this XS guy is hopefuly that RHEL-6 will appear soon and XS 0.7 or 0.8 will be based on

Re: [Server-devel] XS: Lanbond0 and eth0 problem

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > Speaking of the network, do we have a logical diagram of the network > on the XS (interface, bond memberships, etc) ? Not that I know of. I posted here explaining my plan right before implementing it, and it did have some mappings. For a mor

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Martin, how is this Flash's fault? I didn't say it was its fault -- I did point out the same cultural issue you mention. And shiny distracts. You are writing very long emails and not pointing to compelling deep and rich stuff. Maybe what

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Stanley Sokolow wrote: > So, please explain why "constructionist" educational models can't be Nobody has stated that it can't be done. But experience shows the opposite correlation (and I have worked in many edu projects using Flash myself, some huge such as TLF'

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:03 PM, John Watlington wrote: > It is extremely hard to see how anyone conversant with constructionist > learning could get excited about Flash + OLPC. Ditto here. I have never seen anyone who understands learning in depth advocating Flash. Social constructionism and Fla

Re: Flash + AIR on OLPC

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > hey guys! Good news, I was able to get in touch with John Dowdell of > Adobe (email below). jd is still around! We used to correspond over bug and quirks in Director versions 3 to 6. >From my PoV, Flash is ok installation wise (hey! some o

Re: Testing summary - Auckland New Zealand, 3 April 2010

2010-04-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tabitha Roder wrote: > XO-1.0 build 802B5 (laptop named simba) > Thanks for testing 802B5! I'll downgrade the activities you suggest -- and there are reports that hint at some mixup with kernel setup that leads to a subtle bug. Hopefully I'll have an 802B6 Real So

Re: A 2.5 Year-Old Has A First Encounter with An iPad

2010-04-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > (she had previous iPhone experience) That's called cheating! ;-) m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first

Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

2010-04-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: >>> >>> ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin -silent -eulaAccepted >> >> Excelent! Where the #$%^ did you find that that documented? >> > > http://help.adobe.com/en_US/AIR/1.5/air_runtime_redist/ai

Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

2010-04-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > ./AdobeAIRInstaller.bin -silent -eulaAccepted Excelent! Where the #$%^ did you find that that documented? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get di

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Backup/Restore UI

2010-03-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > However, it looks like it would take a couple of months of effort to get I think you are overengineering this. - Single-file restore is well solved by Moodle's backup/restore UI + Browse - As you found out, librsync isn't what you wan

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Backup/Restore UI

2010-03-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:14 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> I'm a bit confused, is the problem reliable full restore with limited >> local space or the DS having the xapian DB open while the copy >> happens? Or both? > > Both, but somehow we

Re: [Sur] XO para ciegos y disminuidos visuales.

2010-03-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
2010/3/28 Tomeu Vizoso : > was wondering if you were already aware of this request from the field. The wording of the request is a bit confusing, so to clarify, I think Walter means that we're missing the dots on the keys F J and 5 (in num keypad). But actually... they are present, and I can feel

Re: ANNOUNCE: New F11 XO-1build 115 Paraguay

2010-03-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: > I'll go with Mikus on that. > With at least 3 development streams some qualifier is needed in the naming. > eg os115x1/os115x15/os115py +1 -- and remember to keep it all 8.3 :-) cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@la

Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: New F11 XO-1build 115 Paraguay

2010-03-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Our short-term goal is to meet a release criteria of "no > regressions against build 801". Once this is done, we'll re-sync with > the latest improvements from our upstreams, F11-XO1.5 and F11-XO1. Bravo. To Stephen, to all the ParaguayEd

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Backup/Restore UI

2010-03-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Suggestions? Use (perhaps improve?) copy-to-journal cli script. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working c

Re: [Server-devel] Web Caching Issues

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Andra DuPont wrote: > I took Jerry's second approach and configured wwwoffle to use port 3128. Excellent path. I am trying to get a newer version of wwwoffle built as a good rpm for the XS, and to give you a clear recipe on how to get this working. I think you are

Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Children discovered some very creative ways to break their systems > through Gnome. LOL! And whatever we fix up, more creative ways of making a mess will appear. All I can suggest is that having a hardlinked tree of the "core" Activities

Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > Yes and no. Anyone technically capable to rebuild our build system, as you > mention below, will be able to easily script the installation of AIR. Nope. I am fairly good with it, and I cannot script the installation of AIR. If you have a t

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 49, Issue 43

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > THERE ARE NOW FREE AND OPEN SOURCE TOOLS FOR CREATING FLASH CONTENT. Don't scream! They are new, it'll take a while... until someone does the work of getting the right rpms into Fedora, Debian, etc. This is a DIY world. Get it done if you

Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Who shall be the official contact from OLPC they should talk to? (name > + email address) d...@lists.laptop.org just like everyone else. We don't give linux kernel developers any "special" contact, same with Sugar devs. cheers, m --

Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > IMHO, OLPC would be able to provide deployments with the option of including > Adobe Flash, while continuing to include Gnash as default There are some aspects that are outside of OLPC control - We need RPMs from Adobe -- in the case if

Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

2010-03-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > There is now an open-source SDK (Flex SDK (there's 2 versions, the You don't say open source in the OSI sense right? > Martin's previous arguments about the quality of educational content > is not a problem with a platform like flash, it

Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

2010-03-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > I know most people here prefer free as in Libre as opposed to free as > in beer, but what do you think of coordinating with Adobe to get Flash > 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO? Flash 10 AFAIK is available as an rpm, so a local deployment hoping

Re: 802b5 - activity bakeoff!

2010-03-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Walter Bender wrote: >>  - Measure 24 -> 29 -- "Keep error" > Could you please post a ticket with the log file? Might be something simple. http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1845 :-) m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect -

802b5 - activity bakeoff!

2010-03-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
I am uploading 802b5 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ -- the main purpose of this build is to test updated activities. The focus is on somespecific activities that may be better... or not.  - Colors 13 -> 15 -- the build includes v15. It mostly worked correctly. I found odd bugs in s

Re: [Server-devel] Web Caching Issues

2010-03-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Andra DuPont wrote: > Any thoughts from the team? Any interesting entries in the squid log? Are there any files in the /library/squid directories? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questio

Re: powerd intro

2010-03-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > wad just reminded me of another user-visible change:  people need > to know how to inhibit automatic suspend. > > to inhibit suspend... I have to say, that's *very* nice and comprehensive. Takes a lot to go from the "it works in my machine" proof

Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ -- > the main purpose of this build is to test updated activities. I did an > initial round of smoketesting, and activities fall in 3 buckets: BTW, this build als

Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, milan zimmermann wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ -- > > I only see 802b3 there so far. Ah, the transfer landed i

Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi all! I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ -- the main purpose of this build is to test updated activities. I did an initial round of smoketesting, and activities fall in 3 buckets: - no update - updated, superficial testing didn't find problems - updated, found

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> So no XS in place? > > The repair lab is not nearby any of the schools. Ah - ok. Thanks for clarifying. >> Downstreams that go to deployment (OLPC!) want to wait until a release >> is reasonably well tested and stabilised. > > We have a

Re: [Server-devel] Collaboration server for existing network

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:09 AM, John Watlington wrote: > And indeed, the XS services are intended for such reuse.   I'm not sure > how many patches to the stock ejabberd are still needed... It's not so much the patches (you can grab the ejabberd-xs rpm from our repo), but the integration with o

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Me too, but it's not as bad as it seems: the techies use a simple shell > script to backup and restore the journal (and scratch data) across So no XS in place? >> It feels uncomfortable that Sugar 0.84 is already a year old effort >> as

Re: [Server-devel] Collaboration server for existing network

2010-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > Thank you very much for that explanation. It certainly helps to keep > everything in perspective. My pleasure. > What I think we really need is a turn-key ejabberd solution that > integrates with existing network services. If you or a

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 112

2010-03-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > how exactly do we think this is supposed to work?  as far as i > can see, "wake-on-lan" is only half the solution.  don't we also > need a "don't-go-to-sleep-because-i-still-might-have > something-to-send" feature? I agree -- I suspect our WOL wa

Re: Fuzzy screen problem in Nicaragua

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:02 PM, German R S wrote: > The problem in Nicaragua is that we have more than 0.1%, we think that the > percentage is around 1%. > > What we can do whit this problem??? Hi Germán, can you give us more detail about the problem? A few good quality pictures of the screens

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better > quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic power management. Are all activities working, including collaboration? In Gnome, can you actually use FF? Came

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: > >> By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is >> a very big deal for us. > > We use a local variant of the F11-XO1 images by Stephen Parrish, signed > wi

Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 112

2010-03-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > note to others:  mikus is describing non-default behavior.  the > default behavior is for the CPU to suspend after about 15 seconds > of inactivity. And I assume powerd should play nice with the wol settings? I am somewhat intrigued by the behav

Re: XO-1.5 keyboard

2010-03-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:54 AM, John Watlington wrote: > Hmm.   I need to communicate more. > There have been a number of changes in the XO-1 keyboard > since production started. IME, the changes are quite subtle for those who aren't "in the know" -- except for the non-membrane one ;-) For exa

Re: Testing azerty in the updated xkeyboard-config - what's the right KA tag?

2010-03-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Seems to work -- now dealing with the ofw cli is more confusing that usual ;-) Installed os802b3 from http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ and it works a charm. Thanks for the RPM! The deadkeys work and seem to make sense. I

Re: Testing azerty in the updated xkeyboard-config - what's the right KA tag?

2010-03-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > For the KA part, from http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/ofw-ka-files, > put setka.fth and azerty.ka in a USB stick, put the USB stick in the > XO, and from OFW, issue the command > fload setka.fth azerty Thanks! The setka.fth script di

Re: Where's the "kernel module wishlist"?

2010-03-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
As Chris pointed out in private - I got Deepak Saxena mixed up with Deepank Gumpta. Apologies to both. Thanks to Deepak and Paul for looking after the kernel and modules. On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: ... lots of silly words... m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar

Re: Where's the "kernel module wishlist"?

2010-03-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > as chris forwarded, this was #9532 for XO-1.5.  were you asking > about XO-1.5, or XO-1? I am hoping to use it on XO-1.5 - yes, I should have clarified. Thanks for the track items. My next step is to get one of those devices and see what I can d

Re: Where's the "kernel module wishlist"?

2010-03-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > http://dev.laptop.org/git/olpc-2.6/commit/?h=olpc-2.6.31&id=b80d4cde6f36c76e2c3777dd594ab21151545acc Excellent - thanks. I had looked in /lib/modules/.../drivers/video and didn't find it -- it lands in drivers/usb/misc instead. m -- martin

Where's the "kernel module wishlist"?

2010-03-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
Deepak, Paul, there's been discussion a few times about having an rpm with additional kernel modules. Is there a wishlist anywhere? I want to case a vote for the sisusbvga.ko -- to be used and abused as outlined here http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Adding_USB_SVGA cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmai

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