Re: os33 - video regression ?

2009-10-27 Thread Richard A. Smith
urrent build. /var/log is currently backed by disk not ram. We haven't gotten far enough along to get fancy yet. So your logs should persist. -- Richard A. Smith One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.la

Re: Test firmware

2009-10-23 Thread Richard A. Smith
achine that runs the button logic. Waiting 10 seconds is still a good idea to make sure all the caps have discharged but holding the power button will have no effect on how long that takes. -- Richard A. Smith One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list

Re: Test firmware

2009-10-23 Thread Richard A. Smith
> Today i had the same problem even with q3a13c, after having to reboot > because the xo blocked while trying to rotate the screen, before the > ''rotate incident'' all was ok on the keyboard freezing front. Is it repeatable? -- Richard A.

Re: Software-disabling touchpad

2009-09-23 Thread Richard A. Smith
t;Auxillary PS/2 device interface" Offhand I don't know the linux way of sending a command to the keyboard controller from userspace but Xwindows does it so its possible. -- Richard A. Smith One Laptop per Child ___ Devel mailing list D

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Langhoff wrote: > No, and that is an explicit goal: keep the changes small and low risk > so that we can do QA focused on the very limited areas of the system > we touch. Just in case you are misunderstanding what we are asking for its at a minimum of changing the 'y' to an 'm' in the ker

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Langhoff wrote: > Generally agree that it is important... however. > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard A. Smith wrote: >> You have to QA the whole system regardless of what change you make so really >> it doesn't increase the QA that much anyway. >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Candidate "paper cut" bugs for a new 8.2.x release?

2009-08-12 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Langhoff wrote: > > I understand the reasoning, but qualifying the build with a changed > kernel will kill us in QA across the system. Got to ruminate on that > one a bit... When deployments report back to us "touchpad" problems are among the top 3 items. Usually #2 behind power. Due t

Re: Disk layout for XO-1.5

2009-08-06 Thread Richard A. Smith
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Richard A. Smith wrote: >> In the end we chose to use microSDHC cards. > > For MP, will they be soldered down or on contacts? PCB mount cell phone style connector. You can change the card but you have to take the plastic back and heatspreader off f

Re: Disk layout for XO-1.5

2009-08-06 Thread Richard A. Smith
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Martin Langhoff wrote: >>> I would urge... >> ...you are preaching to the ultra-converted, to the frustrated. I >> wasn't personally involved, but I know at least Wad & Mitch looked >> quite deep into this, and found no good offers. There is good evidence >> to trust

Re: kernel debugging

2009-08-04 Thread Richard A. Smith
NoiseEHC wrote: > Somehow every time I asked about debugging in these forums I have got no > answer at all. Now I have a weak feeling that Linux developers are "real > programmers" who do not use debuggers. I hope it is not the case... :) >> > 2. Or they are just busy... >> Another issue is

Re: [Testing] new F11-for-XO1 images available for testing

2009-07-28 Thread Richard A. Smith
Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >>> currently disabled because it exposed a bug in OFWs ext2 code. >> That bug is fixed in q3a06, which I released yesterday. > > I thought q3 OFW was meant only for XO-1.5 (and would brick XO-1). Correct. The XO-1.5 firmware (q3xxx) won't pass the checksum test on an XO

Re: [Techteam] XO-1.5 Kernel Update (i.e My Weekly Status)

2009-07-20 Thread Richard A. Smith
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > > To handle unpredictable interrupts, cpuidle uses recent history to predict > the frequency of future interrupts, and then chooses processor states to > meet an associated latency requirement. It seems likely to me that this > will avoid any need for a special idle

Re: Availability of XO-1.5 ATest-2 machines

2009-07-20 Thread Richard A. Smith
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Yes. You can use the rtcwake command to set wakeup timers for the future > from userspace. However, my impression is that this is only safe if the > timer is at least 2 seconds in the future at the time of suspend, due to a > potential race with the EC. Not a race w

Re: [Techteam] XO-1.5 Kernel Update (i.e My Weekly Status)

2009-07-20 Thread Richard A. Smith
Deepak Saxena wrote: > So far our minimal testing shows that we may be able to freeze > on 5 seconds of inactivity instead of 30 and not see a glitch > in the screen contents. I don't quite understand this. There should not be any difference for screen glitching between 5 seconds and 1

Re: Availability of XO-1.5 ATest-2 machines

2009-07-20 Thread Richard A. Smith
da...@lang.hm wrote: > the problem was that the _only_ number that was mentioned was the > 'best-case' 2w number (which software has not supported using to this day) Not true. 8.2.1 has the ability for you go into ebook at < 1W. Enable 'extreme power management' in the control panel which will

Re: Availability of XO-1.5 ATest-2 machines

2009-07-20 Thread Richard A. Smith
da...@lang.hm wrote: >> My proposal is instead to stop giving out inaccurate predictions, wait >> a little longer, and publish real data. > > the trouble is that there is no such thing as 'real data' with > suspend/resume because the power used is so highly dependant on actual > useage patterns

Re: Availability of XO-1.5 ATest-2 machines

2009-07-19 Thread Richard A. Smith
Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Also, what determines the dynamic clock rate from 400MHz to 1GHz? Is > this auto-scaling on demand like with the old AMD Athlon64's? Does the > software automatically reduce speed to 400MHz when the unit is > unplugged? Dyanamic clock scaling is usefully for thermal limit

Re: A1 Motherboard specs diagram

2009-07-19 Thread Richard A. Smith
Carlos Nazareno wrote: > This has a power consumption of 3.5W which is significantly higher > than the AMD 0.8-1.3W of the XO-1's AMD Geode LX 700. This is why I > was asking about battery life -- it's a concern for using the XO with > common tasks like as a mobile e-book reader. > > I'm pretty ce

Re: Availability of XO-1.5 ATest-2 machines

2009-07-19 Thread Richard A. Smith
Carlos Nazareno wrote: >> If the laptop can only handle 3 hours without suspend that's fine, >> it's a baseline. If it could do 5 hours than it would be great. > > A good test would be just to use the units in ebook reader mode and > try testing how long the batteries would last reading PDFs. >

Re: lid wakeups

2009-06-23 Thread Richard A. Smith
Paul Fox wrote: > thank you. i was misled by the EC code that still looks at the > (now-disconnected) lid signal, and by the (now-depopulated) connection > to that gpio. > > > in Gen 1.5 we expect the gpio wakeups to work correctly (which is > > someting we need to test soon) and lid wakeups

Re: lid wakeups

2009-06-23 Thread Richard A. Smith
Paul Fox wrote: > but what thinking about this has really made me realize is that i > don't fully understand how lid wakeups work, even for the > lid-open case that we do support. it seems that EC involvement > is required, even though it's clear from the code in olpc-pm.c > (and the history in #

issue with snapshots from command line via gstreamer

2009-06-17 Thread Richard A. Smith
I'm using a small script to take snapshots with an OLPC every 30 seconds using a gstreamer command line. The wiki (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Programming_the_camera) lists the following as one method of doing this. gst-launch-0.10 v4l2src ! ffmpegcolorspace ! pngenc ! filesink location=foo.png

Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-05-06 Thread Richard A. Smith
Emiliano Pastorino wrote: > Also, I want you to know that the first 20 batteries I tested weren't > faulty, they just needed to be charged > (trickle charged at the begining, then normal charged). I think that > kids and our technicians don't know what > does the 4-times-blinking-orange-led mean

Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-05-05 Thread Richard A. Smith
Emiliano Pastorino wrote: > bat-charge reports this: 320.83 mAh (7d53) 1428.12 mA (2ddc) 6.492 V > (195c) Chg: 0.41mAh ( 29) then every column raises line to line (I > copied that by hand because > bat-charge-log always says "Can't open file", even when usb stick is > plugged in. Turns out the

Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-04-30 Thread Richard A. Smith
Emiliano Pastorino wrote: > Richard, > > I've just received a box with 60 faulty batteries inside, so I'll be > playing with them > for the next few years... :) > I did a "bat-recover" on one of them for about 18 hours and I noticed this: > When I run "watch-battery", it still says "No battery

Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-04-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Emiliano Pastorino wrote: > Are you using the latest batman.fth? I pulled a lot of batman > functionality into the firmware and had to modify batman.fth to > avoid the errors above. > > > I'm using 0.3.6. Sorry. I didn't have the latest up on the site. Grab a fresh copy. > Is t

Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-04-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Emiliano Pastorino wrote: > Put batman.fth in /home/olpc and try "fload nand:\home\olpc\batman.fth". > > > OK. That worked (I think), but now I'm getting this when I execute fload: > > >sd.ddd isn't unique > >sd.dd isn't unique > ec-rambase isn't unique > ec-ram@ isn't unique > logstr isn

Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-04-28 Thread Richard A. Smith
Emiliano Pastorino wrote: > How can I tell the difference between a > completely http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Troubleshooting_Battery#Diagnosing_Battery_Problems If see-bstate shows you more than just 0 1 2 then the battery is something you can work with. -- Richard Smith One Laptop Per C

Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-04-28 Thread Richard A. Smith
Emiliano Pastorino wrote: > > - I tried "see-bstate" and I get an infinite output of "0 1 2 0 1 2 0 1 > 2 0 1 2" This means the battery is not responding to 1-wire reset. Nothing more you can do with out an o-scope. Probably not worth the time to go further unless you have a lot of them

Re: CL1B power distribution

2009-04-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Richard A. Smith wrote: > That's not fast enough for much interesting signal processing, but it's > more than fast enough to do power metering. Power metering while on > external power is something I've specifically been hoping for. >

Re: CL1B power distribution

2009-04-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
p...@laptop.org wrote: > i would think Measure would be more interested in (short-term) averages > of voltage and current than in seeing power supply noise. > (will an XO even run properly from an unrectified, or even > unfiltered, supply?) Depends. For gen 1.5 we have opened up the front end v

Re: CL1B power distribution

2009-04-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
>>> Additional changes from Gen 1 include the ability to both measure >>> DC input current and VIN voltage, as well as EC control over the >>> current drawn from the DC input. The intent was to better support >>> charging directly from solar panels. >> I hope that this will be available to activiti

Re: Occasional stuck keys on devanagari keyboard

2009-04-13 Thread Richard A. Smith
Bryan Berry wrote: > consistently. For instance, w/ 5 XO's yesterday the keys were stuck on > the first boot. On the second boot the problem went away. Today, I > powered on the same XO's and the keys were stuck on the first boot. The > problem went away on the second boot. > > We have firmware Q

Re: debXO 0.5 but no keyboard on XO

2009-04-11 Thread Richard A. Smith
jns-cmarsh...@comcast.net wrote: > I just tried DebXO 0.5 from a USB stick > on my XO running q2f01 firmware. It The release numbering is a bit off right now. Manufacturing issues forced us to release several q2exx releases after q2f01. Please use q2e39 until another f series release comes o

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Heart Rate Monitor Peripheral

2009-04-08 Thread Richard A. Smith
Walter Bender wrote: > Peter, > > In the ticket, I was trying to express my ignorance of how to proceed, > but not suggest that the distros haven't dealt with these sorts of > issues in the past. > > There are two separate issues I encountered with TA (and Measure). One > is the need for patches

Re: Touchpad

2009-04-06 Thread Richard A. Smith
david wrote: > Hello > > I am returning to this list after a few months - sorry if this topic > has been covered. I heard that the touchpad hardware may have been > improved in XOs manufactured since around October last year. No so much improved. It was wholesale replaced with a synaptics devic

Re: Recompiling the firmware

2009-04-05 Thread Richard A. Smith
Guylhem Aznar wrote: > Hello > > I couldn't find a lot of informations about firmware recompilation. > >>From what I've read, I think I can get it from > http://openbios.org/viewvc/?root=OpenFirmware > > But how do I recompile it, to get a new .rom file ready to by flashed > ? (the same questio

Introducing the OLPC Multi-Battery Charger.

2009-03-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
Welcome to m...@list.laptop.org. The mailing list for OLPC's Multi-Battery Charger. Rather than try to send a bunch of duplicate e-mails to people or make a big cc: list I decided to create a mailing list so that its really easy to share info among everyone interested. You are on this list an

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
S Page wrote: > I made http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Troubleshooting_Battery#Tips but you > folks can do a much better edit. > >> In q2e32 I've pulled in some of my batman.fth stuff. > > I noted this in the same page's batman.fth section. I don't see it. In q2e32 i've changed the names of some

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
Richard A. Smith wrote: > The instrumented setup only has a current measurement resolution down to > about 1mA. So there's room for a lot of error in that measurement. > Looking at the schematics I see that there are quite a few other parts > that share the 3.3V rail with th

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-15 Thread Richard A. Smith
qu...@laptop.org wrote: > (If one discharges an XO battery outside the XO using a home lighting > circuit, the displayed state of charge will be inconsistent. Persisting > in this practice results in increasing inconsistency. Ceasing the > practice results in decreasing inconsistency over severa

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-15 Thread Richard A. Smith
qu...@laptop.org wrote: >> 3) If that battery had been sitting on the shelf (not in an XO) for >> a month -- what did I need to do to make it "topped off" ? > > Discharge it to 90% capacity, then charge it. q2e32 can help you out. In q2e32 I've pulled in some of my batman.fth stuff. As

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Richard A. Smith
Richard A. Smith wrote: > into STOP mode but its power draw suggests otherwise. I'll have to > study it deeper. After deeper study I have verified that the EC is going into stop mode. I have also found the (biggest) source of the additional power draw I measured. The tinder box

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Richard A. Smith
Richard A. Smith wrote: > going into STOP mode the EC is only going into IDEL mode. In IDEL the > instruction fetch is turned off but the clocks and timers still run. 4mA > is listed as the nominal draw in that mode. /s/IDEL/IDLE -- Richard Smith One Laptop

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Richard A. Smith
da...@lang.hm wrote: >> The embedded controller was. Something needs to be watching for a >> power button press in order to know when to turn on. > > by default the wireless card remains alive to participate in a > potential mesh network, disabling wireless should give you a lot more > time. In

Re: Turning off the mesh to save battery power

2009-01-28 Thread Richard A. Smith
Tiago Marques wrote: > Plus, the wireless symbol still blinks quite a lot with the lid close, > seems that mesh is still up and running? > echo 0 > /sys/power/wlan_enabled -- Richard Smith One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.lap

Re: Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-26 Thread Richard A. Smith
Hal Murray wrote: >> Right now e28 is what you should be testing. When the next f series >> release comes out (RSN) then that will be the new series going >> forward. > > I just ran a half-dozen Restart cycles with e28. > > None of them connected automatically. All of them connected when I pok

Re: Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-26 Thread Richard A. Smith
Hal Murray wrote: > please-help-test-this messages but I could easily have missed one. The > latest version is Q2E28. I'm reasonably sure that it didn't get much testing > since I just fixed a typo on the wiki page in the URL to download the bits. > Anyway, most of the testing below was done

Re: Touchpad/tablet problem

2008-12-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
John Watlington wrote: > > On Dec 29, 2008, at 9:15 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: > >> On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Richard A. Smith wrote: >> >>> Greg Smith wrote: >>>> Hopefully one of the touchpad/firmware experts can give you a link to >>>> how you

Re: Touchpad/tablet problem

2008-12-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Greg Smith wrote: > Hopefully one of the touchpad/firmware experts can give you a link to > how you can capture and use raw data generated by the touchpad. The datasheet is here: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Touch_Pad/Tablet You want to put the touchpad into "Advanced Mode." In this mode it will

Re: New joyride build 2590

2008-12-12 Thread Richard A. Smith
Build Announcer v2 wrote: > Size delta: 0.13M > > -bootfw q2f01-1.olpc2.unsigned > +bootfw q2e23-1.olpc2.unsigned Hey.. No fair. :) I guess I'll leave on 'e' until we are done with 8.2.1 to maximize testing time. -- Richard Smith One Laptop Per Child ___

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-12 Thread Richard A. Smith
Greg Smith wrote: > > * Richard to determine how to address the no regressions requirement and > > how to measure the success of the feature in terms of Amps used. I've been working on such tests off and on since October when the report of 8.2 regressions first popped up. And while I've learn

New F series firmware release

2008-12-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
I've just cut the first release of the F series firmware. New cool nifty OFW feature like NANDblaster, USB cdrom support, and other goodness. But the primary reason is the restructured EC code. Paul Fox did a ton of work re-organizing the EC code and cleaning up lots of cruft plus getting the

Re: Info on developer key request page on XO

2008-12-02 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ed McNierney wrote: > No, all I'm thinking about is having .devkey.html contain the postal > instructions in the HTML local to the machine, so it can be read by > someone without Internet access at all. Someone can launch the Browse > activity, click on "get a developer key", and read the i

Re: Urgent need of wireless certification

2008-11-28 Thread Richard A. Smith
Pia Waugh wrote: > Hi all, > > Could someone please point me to any wireless certification the XO has > (European if possible) which should have been a requirement for selling them > in the UK. I urgently need this certificate to complete the registration of > the device in Australia and the Pacif

Re: running a motherboard without a keyboard

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Guylhem Aznar wrote: > I'm thinking about getting a USB-serial cable to connect to J1 ; > meanwhile, I figured out I could use the gamepad, rotation button and > the 4 game keys, along with blinking the leds, but looks like they are > not working, while the power button is working fine. > > Is it

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Deepak Saxena wrote: > Can we get some of the new touchpad laptops out to locations that > have reported issues due to heat/moisture to see how they respond? > It would good to get some data and fix any issues before we roll these > out en masse. Perhaps. I'll have to check with wad and see if w

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ben Wiley Sittler wrote: > > i just tried to simulate this. > > as a test i used an eyedropper to put 0.5ml of tapwater onto the > touchpad. suddenly the entire vertical strip of trackpad containing Foreign material on all non multi-touch pads causes problems. Drops of liquid break every single

New touchpad still has some jumpyness

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
During SJ's demo meeting today at 1cc I used my test machine with the new touchpad. The touchpad on my laptop is much deeper inset than I still experienced jumpyness. However, a much different jumpyness than what happens with the alps device. In my case it appears to happen if the tip of my t

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ties Stuij wrote: >> If you do do have laptops that have the problem consistently we might >> want to try and do some sort of swap. > > I wouldn't go there... > Sorry, not to rub it in,.. but.. yea, well a bit actually. This is a > very, VERY big and very known (hardware) bug. And if it's still n

Re: Touch pads

2008-11-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
Bryan Berry wrote: >> >> David Leeming >> >> Solomon Islands, South Pacific > > We have consistently had similar problems in Nepal. I think it is a > hardware problem. > The core of the problem has yet to be identified but it certainly has hardware aspects. Here at 1cc we still don't have man

Re: Audio routing question

2008-11-20 Thread Richard A. Smith
Guylhem Aznar wrote: > Whenever a jack is plugged in, the audio is routed to the jack instead > of the main speakers. It may not always be desirable (ex: wakeup > clock) > > Did try to tweak alsa settings, but I couldn't change that. > > Is there a way to override it? Not without a hardware mod

Re: Game keys

2008-11-03 Thread Richard A. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I want to find out what the scancodes are, so that I can then document how > to get them mapped to keystokes via some mechanism similar to the kernel http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ec_specification#KeyCodes_for_Buttons -- Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One Laptop

Re: ACPI on XO

2008-11-03 Thread Richard A. Smith
Jordan Crouse wrote: > appropriate hook. But if we want to suspend on idle, then we need to > do it while are... you know... idle - so something has to live there. > > I think we are basically saying the same thing here - userspace needs > to give us the go-ahead to suspend, and we need to have

Re: debxo 0.3 release

2008-10-31 Thread Richard A. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have updated the firmware to Q2E20, and that error message is gone. > Instead, once its complete, and I try to boot into debxo, it gives me a sad > face and powers off after 10 seconds. Is this because it's an unsigned build, > and I have no devel key after the refla

9.1 Proposal: Power Management (Power++)

2008-10-27 Thread Richard A. Smith
Chris Ball wrote: > We made an incremental step in 8.2, offering automatic power management > that is disabled by default, and I propose a talk covering what needs > to happen for us to be comfortable taking the next step to enable it > by default in 9.1. +1. I'm going to expand on this further

Re: 9.1 Proposal: Power.

2008-10-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
Nate Ridderman wrote: > Do we have the ability to pulse width modulate the backlight LEDs? What > is the resolution on the PWM? It's hard to know if this is feasible > without a hardware schematic and specs on the backlight driver. The CL1 > spec mentions a PWM signal, but maybe it only has fou

The great battery experiment

2008-10-15 Thread Richard A. Smith
As I reported in my report that went to community news I'm looking for power use and battery life information. Here's a modified version of what I sent in for community news: Richard would like to call for help from the G1G1, developer, and testing community. Gathering large amount of

Re: OFW trackpad test woes

2008-10-05 Thread Richard A. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I suggest that item 3. be release noted then. > > By the way if an Alps trackpad goes bad will it be possible to swap > in a Synaptics track pad or is that physically impossible Care was taken to make sure that electrical compatibility was maintained. The new un

Re: New joyride build 2506 - q2e19

2008-10-05 Thread Richard A. Smith
Mitch Bradley wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Another strange thing I see with q2e19 is that at 19% battery, >> according to the battery gauge, the battery indicatory lamp started >> flashing red and orange. > > That would be a function of the EC code. Richard, any thoughts? > Yes. That

Re: [Techteam] Major power concern

2008-10-03 Thread Richard A. Smith
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > I'm not convinced that the testing methodology is sound: the machines > should be fully charged, with the same battery, and times taken until > fully discharged (until poweroff). A 10 minute olpc-pwr-log using a delay 30 should be a reasonably accurate measurement. If

Re: Major power concern

2008-10-03 Thread Richard A. Smith
greebo wrote: > >> To determine if it is a battery problem follow the instructions for >> using opc-pwr-log. (This should be pre-installed on 757). >> The instructions are at: >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_LiFePO4_Recovery_Procedure > > Will do and will post results. You may want to mod

Re: XO power consumption under 8.2-759

2008-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
Richard A. Smith wrote: > My measurements were taken with the CPU off across long periods so that > activity was minimal. (I spent an entire Sunday taking them as I did > other chores). With the CPU off the fluctuation of the power draw is > greatly reduced. This could be th

Re: Recovery connector?

2008-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ricardo Carrano wrote: > > Thank you for your care and advice. > > This B2s belongs to a University in Rio, that actually has 23 B2s. > They are pretty useful devices for networking tests and I am helping > this group to mount a sparse mesh testbed with them. We already > "saved" this B2 by usin

Re: XO power consumption under 8.2-759

2008-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
Gary C Martin wrote: > I just have a B4 here to test but I was curious to try some power > measurement to see how they differed. I seem to have a slightly worrying > status that's not listed on the wiki page. Kernel bug. Fixed in current joyride. Also the status values changed and the overall

Re: XO power consumption under 8.2-759

2008-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
John Gilmore wrote: > > I don't know why my power measurements are much higher than Richard's > from February (he got 3.9W to 4.9W where I got 5.9W). I tend to trust > his more, since mine are one-shot samples, but my dimmer measurements > do tend to corroborate each other (i.e. none of them got

Re: Recovery connector?

2008-09-16 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ricardo Carrano wrote: > confirmed that this B2 was updated to a recent build with q2e14. There > you go. > Let's see if the team have good skills with an iron... Ricardo, I'm sorry you missed my post on devel that e series firmware would brick B2's. Let me encourage you to replace that B2 w

Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: > > I know that newer versions of the OS can't be used on such an old > machine and had expected there to be limits for the firmware too, but > everything I found on the wiki indicated that all versions are > compatible with it (only ATest has limits). Ugh. Verifie

Re: 8.1.3 release candidate

2008-09-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > I have published build 714, the first (and hopefully only!) release > candidate for the 8.1.3 point release, at: > http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/714/ Do not install this or any thing else with newer (> q2e12) firmware on a B2 or it will brick. -- Richa

Re: Short circuting USB port?

2008-09-08 Thread Richard A. Smith
James Cameron wrote: > 1. a battery that is faulty, Very likely. See: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_LiFePO4_Recovery_Procedure For diagnostic and repair. > 3. a USB device that is faulty, in that it draws more current than it > ought to do, The ports are limited to a max of 1A summed across

Re: Hardware Errors -- any hope?

2008-09-02 Thread Richard A. Smith
John Watlington wrote: >> I can scp 156 MB to the local machine no problem. >> >> I figure that the problem lies in the USB controller. Any ideas? > > This sounds more like a problem with the USB key, not the motherboard. > If the controller were having trouble transferring data, it wouldn't be s

Re: upgrading firmware ( Re: q2e15 released )

2008-09-01 Thread Richard A. Smith
S Page wrote: > == Three "latest" firmwares == > > 1)Richard A. Smith wrote: >> Q2e15 is up. If you are running current joyride(s) and doing >> auto-suspend/resume you need to upgrade. This is the latest release, but largely untested and not signed.

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Dengler wrote: > If there are any pearls of wisdom around (or prerequisites thereto) I > would try to help convert them into recipies. If it'd be helpful to > future G1G1 people even better. http://www.tuxonice.net/HOWTO Keep image mode. You will have to tweak some of the init sequence t

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Dengler wrote: > Could SD/USB key space be used instead of NAND? Yes. But then you have to ship one of those devices. -- Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.o

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > i can't resist pointing out that we could probably do that with > > > linux too, if we weren't committed to using an off-the-shelf desktop > > > distribution. This doesn't have anything to do with the fact that we use a off-the-shelf distro vs a custom embedded

q2e15 released

2008-08-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Q2e15 is up. If you are running current joyride(s) and doing auto-suspend/resume you need to upgrade. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e15 -- Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.o

Weekend 2008/8/22

2008-08-22 Thread Richard A. Smith
* q2e13 EC code had timing issues and broke the mouse on builds <=711 (690 included) Richard removed it from the joyride builds and marked it as bad on the wiki. * Richard Fixed the EC timing issues and released EC code pq2e14. Not in a firmware yet but will be soon. * The first full Multi-Battery

New Test firmware.

2008-08-19 Thread Richard A. Smith
I have a new test firmware up for all you brave firmware testers. Last time I didn't give it enough soak time before rolling a q2e13 and had to brown bag it. So I'd appreciate testing across a bunch of different builds. http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q20158.rom Thanks. -- Richard Smith <[EM

Re: A-board

2008-08-18 Thread Richard A. Smith
Victor Lazzarini wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have an A-board in my office which I would like to bring back to > life if possible. But on booting, I get the message > > Evaluation period has expired, halting > Validate from 05/16/2006 to 08/23/2006. > Any suggestions? You are running an ATes

Re: Q2E13, joyride-2302, 8.1 (708) and touchpad, first impressions

2008-08-15 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ton van Overbeek wrote: > Updated my firmware to Q2E13 and installed joyride 2302, replacing 2298. > Touchpad works under joyride-2302 but is completely unusable under 708: > the mouse cursor is stuck 99% of the time. > I have not run with extra mouse debugging enabled yet, will do that > tomorrow

Re: Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2301!

2008-08-15 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ton van Overbeek wrote: > NoiseEHC wrote: >> I feel the touchpad very jumpy, it was not jumpy at all with 708. >> > See trac #7788 and trac #7341. Please enable debug info with echo 1 > /sys/module/psmouse/parameters/tpdebug and attach your logs to one of the tickets. > I am doing more touc

Re: q2e13 released

2008-08-15 Thread Richard A. Smith
Joel Stanley wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Richard A. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've had 2 reports from my q20117 dev build that after upgrade the >> touchpad quit working. > > I upgraded to joyride-2302 and the touchpad now works fine.

q2e13 released

2008-08-14 Thread Richard A. Smith
q2e13 is out but since koji is down you will have to grab it manually rather than wait for it to hit joyride. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e13 I've had 2 reports from my q20117 dev build that after upgrade the touchpad quit working. I've not been able to duplicate this and 3 other

Re: New system firmware to test

2008-08-14 Thread Richard A. Smith
Joel Stanley wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Richard A. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> People who enjoy testing firmware please do so. > > My touchpad was unusable. B3, 703. If I was lucky, I could get the > cursor to move ~5cm every minute (most of

Re: New system firmware to test

2008-08-14 Thread Richard A. Smith
Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >> http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q20117.rom >> People who enjoy testing firmware please do so. > > Did not succeed in installing this. > > Used 'flash' at the esc_prompt to write it onto my XO. > But expected XO to reboot by itself - instead the power light went > off, and

New system firmware to test

2008-08-14 Thread Richard A. Smith
I've put up q20117.rom @ http://dev.laptop.org/~rsmith/q20117.rom People who enjoy testing firmware please do so. If nothing shows up while I sleep then I'll spin a q2e13 .rpm for joyride. The highlights are: * Much faster EC command processing. * Fix for watchdog timeout when doing battery EE

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-11 Thread Richard A. Smith
Ton van Overbeek wrote: > - The polling of the EC every 30 seconds has disappeared. At least > it does not show up in the dmesg output. > - More important, the touchpad seems to behave much better. May be > related to the reduced polling of the EC. That makes sense if previously you were se

Re: inhibiting suspend via dbus

2008-08-11 Thread Richard A. Smith
Deepak Saxena wrote: > On Aug 09 2008, at 19:35, Mikus Grinbergs was caught saying: >> One possibility -- OFW already tests for "is the XO plugged in?". >> Maybe Ohm can test for that, and decide that suspend is not needed >> when the battery is fully charged, and is not being drained. > > I don

Re: comments on late joyrides re: rt performance

2008-08-07 Thread Richard A. Smith
victor wrote: > which uses a soundfont synthesis engine. On the older system, I > can play most files with only the occasional dropout, generally > quite solidly. But on the later (2232 and 2263), I get many more > dropouts. Every now and then the OS seems to get a break and > go out for coffee or

Re: suspend on 'idle'

2008-08-07 Thread Richard A. Smith
Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > But what got me started on this topic was that on one XO I run a > background (nice 19) task 24/7. If I don't "inhibit" it, I've seen > that XO 'suspend' - even though its CPU was 100% utilized! That is > a Linux application for which I only have the binary -- it woul

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