Raspberry Pi (was Fwd: [Sur] linux system por $25)

2011-05-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
FYI. Anybody who would like to port Sugar to a $25 computer (requiring only monitor, mouse, and keyboard) should contact Eben, and let us know too. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com Date: Sat, May 21, 2011 at 22:10 Subject: Re: [Sur] linux system por

Re: [Localization] Fwd: Updated 11.2.0 schedule

2011-05-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
At the end of your e-mail, you wrote Testing is much appreciated. It sounds as if there is no formal testing process for Sugar on XOs. I know that this is the case for packaging for various distributions. I recently found out through my own testing of the release that Turtle Blocks for Ubuntu

TurtleArt problems in Ubuntu

2011-05-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/turtleart/+bug/731133 TurtleArt 98.1, as packaged for Ubuntu, is missing essential files and cannot start. Who is responsible for this package? -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my

Re: quick Forth question

2010-01-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:59, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Can anyone help me with a tiny Forth script? Can never quite get my head around the language. I once wrote pen plotter programs in FORTH for fractals, to test the plotter mechanism. Hypnotic. I'm trying to set up an if-else

Re: OLPC XO 1.5 overheating problems

2009-10-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
I don't know whether I can help, but I'm willing to try. I edited the Geode manuals for National Semiconductor before they sold the product line to AMD. The throttling and suspension mechanisms are quite complicated, but the explanations seemed to make sufficient sense at the time. Of course, they

Re: OFW access from linux

2009-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: on the XO, openfirmware stays resident when linux runs, and is accessible via an API specified in arch/x86/kernel/ofw.c.  i've just pushed a commit to our 2.6.30 kernel branch that adds a sysrq hook (SysRq-y) for starting

Re: [Server-devel] [IAEP] Where should we put Lesson Plans? Currwiki?

2009-09-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
+1, except not just PDFs. We have much better presentation formats, such as Scratch, Turtle Art Portfolio, and Etoys presentation objects. On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Thank Martin! Your email really helped me. Here is my current thinking on

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
I ran through all of the basic functions of SocialCalc, including every icon on every tab. I have tested some but not all of the 109 functions provided, with good results so far. Although there are functions I could wish for, the only real deficiency I have found is in the documentation. I have

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
again for taking time to work with SocialCalc so we can help provide this functionality around the world through this platform. -DanB Edward Cherlin wrote: I ran through all of the basic functions of SocialCalc, including every icon on every tab. I have tested some but not all of the 109

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
I downloaded SocialCalc from the Activities subdomain to the journal, where it installed and ran with no difficulty. I will give it some serious testing soon. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Manusheel Guptam...@laptop.org wrote: Dear community members, We are preparing for the next release of

Re: [IAEP] SHIRT SLOGAN VOTE! Class Acts Poster! OLPC/Sugar Community Book Sprint (Sept 6-11, Washington DC)

2009-08-31 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Holth...@laptop.org wrote: Please vote for the back of our T-Shirt -- Mike Lee's image will be on the front of the shirt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/3865753915/in/photostream/ But we need your help for the back!!! Proposal #1 (yes the

Re: [Sugar-devel] erasing the journal and config

2009-08-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/8/27 Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu: We have a lending library at SFSU, ready to go, but we need to have a way to erase the config and journal every time the XO comes back from a borrower. In my opinion, this is silly.

Re: The Next Wave of Activity Sharing

2009-07-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Joshua Eddyjoshuage...@gmail.com wrote: Sugar Labs DC would like to propose an exciting new direction for the development of the Sugar interface.  It is our belief that in the spirit of sharing and collaboration, Sugar activities should be publishable to the

Re: is anyone actually doing Windows on XO work here?

2009-07-21 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Carlos Nazarenoobject...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all. Check out the latest piece: Negroponte Sees Sugar As OLPC's Biggest Mistake http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/20/1628228 (The title is bad FUD from OLPC News -- it's actually Negroponte saying

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal and filenames on USB disks - more leases.sig problems

2009-07-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
Better way: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities#Midnight_Commander On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Martin Langhoffmartin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to get leases.sig from the XS to the USB stick. On 8.2.x, Browse.xo saves the file as   File leases.sig from http://... ...

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-20 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi,   What is the command to start Sugar in 20090519.iso? There is no   'sugar-emulator', and 'sugar' fails. On the first login screen, choose Sugar instead of GNOME on the Session dropdown at the bottom of the screen.

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
What is the command to start Sugar in 20090519.iso? There is no 'sugar-emulator', and 'sugar' fails. Is their an installer on the image? It doesn't make itself obvious. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: We have some good news:  OLPC has decided to base its

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: We have some good news:  OLPC has decided to base its software release for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11.  Unlike previous releases, we plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving users the

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: If you're interested in contributing, we'd certainly love your help, and you can find us on the fedora-olpc mailing list¹, and freenode IRC's #fedora-olpc channel.  Our existing F11 build images for the XO-1 are

Re: from Peru, sugar in DEBIAN

2009-05-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:17 PM, OLPC Puno olpcp...@gmail.com wrote: My name is Sdenka from Puno Peru, since one month we are using Debian at Glorioso San Carlos High School in PERU. We installed the sugar and 10 activities including in Debian packages, then added ETOYS, SCRATCH AND

Re: [Grassroots-l] OLPC Project

2009-04-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Angule Gabriel angule2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello iEARN Kenya has interest in this project and would do with as many laptops as you would practically be able to provide in its endeavour to initiate the ICT integration in education programme within Kenyan

Another Linux in education

2009-03-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
Here is another needed port of Sugar. http://itschool.gov.in/otherprograms.php#6 The Kerala IT Education Department believes that sharing is an important virtue. However, sharing proprietary software would be a violation of the End User. Building collaboration and sharing practices are essential

Re: [Sugar-devel] instructions for flashing SoaS on a XO

2009-03-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/3/6 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: Glad to hear it works, I'm going to try it this weekend on my XO. I wonder if we could get the release team to execute these steps automatically for each release, and then make .img files available on downloads.sugarlabs.org along with the .iso files?

eBook controls (was Re: rotate button sucks on the XO)

2009-03-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:43 PM,  da...@lang.hm wrote: On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Eben Eliason wrote: second, you may want to use the keys for something else and not dedicate them to moving the mouse around. For example, next page,

Re: Price point plus sales to individuals

2009-02-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: Okay, so those of you who are keen on there being a way for individuals to buy XOs at $2xx dollars should place a volume order, set up a web site, and start raking in the dough. Earth Treasury has wanted to do that for more

Re: Price point plus sales to individuals

2009-02-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/2/18 Robert D. Fadel fa...@laptop.org: On Feb 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM, John Watlington wrote: I don't see how a non-profit can do this, as requires financing at risk, and staffing for uncertain demand.    Let me know when you have the capital. Absolutely true and I'm not sure the capital

Re: Journal empty in Soas-200902231225 and what is Soas-200902241809.iso in snapshots/2/ ?

2009-02-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Ton van Overbeek tvoverb...@gmail.com wrote: When trying out Soas-200902231225 the journal stays empty. Anybody else seen this ? This is true in several versions of Sugar, including Ubuntu packages. Jonas Smedegård has made a patch for it, available from

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, by default the wireless card remains alive to participate in a potential mesh network, disabling wireless should give you a lot more time. You're thinking of sleep mode, not the full shutdown that Mikus is

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-02-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Jordan Crouse jor...@cosmicpenguin.net wrote: Edward Cherlin wrote: National Semiconductor, which bought the line from Cyrix. I edited several of the pin- and register-level manuals for various chips for them more than ten years ago, and updates of my work

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno object...@gmail.com wrote: AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight AMD on Monday said it has no

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: AMD bought the Geode business from another company. National Semiconductor, which bought the line from Cyrix. I edited several of the pin- and register-level manuals for various chips for them more than ten years ago

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/1/27 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Carlos Nazareno wrote: Do ARM processors do these things better than anything else on the market right now? but then you lose the X86 compatibility and this probably breaks things for cross-platform upstream contributions for any

Re: Leaving

2009-01-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:50 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote: Like many others, Friday will be my last day employed by OLPC. I've enjoyed working on the project a lot, and hope to find some way to continue the work that has been begun. I'm very sorry to hear that. Will you be

Re: see ya'

2009-01-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM, p...@laptop.org wrote: like many others, today is my last day at OLPC. my short tenure here has been loads of fun, and it's been an honor to be close to the center of such a great project. i'll be around -- please stay in touch. to the extent i can, i'll

zen root (was Re: Flash wiki entries)

2009-01-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Samuel Klein s...@laptop.org wrote: Anyway, why does this wiki page tell you to enter sudo su - Some future zen compilation of sudo may support infinite nesting of levels of protectedness, so that you have to really REALLY mean it to say sudo sudo sudo

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:18:51PM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 18:29, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Greg Smith gregsmitho...@gmail.com wrote: Your suggestion

Re: What's going on with Text To Speech on the XO?

2008-12-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
for installing speech-dispatcher. James Simmons Edward Cherlin wrote: Welcome back. There is significant interest from other organizations in our use of TTS with text coloring. I have just started discussions with the Doug Engelbart Foundation, Creative Commons ccLearn, Alan Kay's Viewpoints

Re: XO deployment count?

2008-12-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Samuel Klein s...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:30 PM, da...@lang.hm wrote: In countries all over the world, XOs are *actually arriving in children's hands*. --scott [*] roughly means there are lots of minor details I'm omitting; Peru rough

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:14 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: OLPC is at risk of similar action unless it gets its act together. The project and its customers have skated by on GPL compliance, figuring that we're the good guys, and make halfhearted attempts every once in a while, so we

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:52:54AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:14 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: OLPC is at risk of similar action unless it gets its act together. The project and its

Re: [Grassroots-l] SugarLabs Sur - Libre Social Network Project

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: Friends of our community, I'd like to introduce you to a project that Rafael, me, Alejandro (proj.man.) , Antonio (django wiz), Alfredo (theather educ) and Jose (mathematics professor at the UNMSM) have been

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:53 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: Some of us are new to one or another part of this issue, and need a bit more background. o Can you list the offending binaries and explain their faults? Sure. For example, ls is part of the Coreutils. In 8.2.0, it's

Re: What's going on with Text To Speech on the XO?

2008-12-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
Welcome back. There is significant interest from other organizations in our use of TTS with text coloring. I have just started discussions with the Doug Engelbart Foundation, Creative Commons ccLearn, Alan Kay's Viewpoints Research, and OLE about a new project to create a full range of teaching

Re: Music Keyboard for TamTam?

2008-12-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Caryl Bigenho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for all your efforts! The last time I used a midi keyboard with a Mac (it was a G3) it had to have a special midi interface and then was just plug and play from there using Finale as a program. In looking over your

Re: Music Keyboard for TamTam?

2008-12-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
See also http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/189728345/ Walter and Simon demonstrate MIDI keyboard input into the A-TEST board Taken on July 14, 2006, uploaded July 14, 2006 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1 Dec 2008, at 04:01, Gary C Martin

Re: Music Keyboard for TamTam?

2008-11-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/11/15 Caryl Bigenho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I was wondering if there would be a way to connect a usb musical keyboard to the XO to use with the TamTam suite of Activities? The software would have to be able to recognize the input from the keyboard. A small 37-key midi keyboard by

Re: [Localization] OLPC Afghanistan

2008-11-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [changing to the olpc devel mailing list] On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Ebtihaj Obaidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi dears. finally OLPC Afghanistan started its official work from Afghanistan. For details just visit:

Re: [Localization] [sugar] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please be _very_ careful on any thought about teaching English with the XO. It is a requirement in many countries. We don't have a choice. Enemies of the project everywhere are just waiting for a chance, any chance,

Re: [Olpc-open] The 40th Anniversary of the Dynabook event at Computer History Museum

2008-10-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:24:09 -0400, Brian Jordan wrote: Cool! (bump) Yes and thanks. The third panelist has been announced and it is none other than Mary Lou Jepsen.

Fwd: 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
Sorry, this got away before I added the rest of the recipients. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:25 PM Subject: Re: 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO. To: Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4

Re: [Community-news] Software developers needed for OLPC Afghanistan

2008-10-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested Svetla. I have lots of skills and I do also possess a bit of charm. I am not religious but that does not mean that I am against religion. Sadly my knowledge of computers thus far are only windows based. I am a

Re: [Community-news] Software developers needed for OLPC Afghanistan

2008-10-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:09:21 -0700, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am interested Svetla. I have lots of skills and I do also possess a bit of charm. I am

Re: [Grassroots-l] World scriptures

2008-10-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Lisa Caroline Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any other sites we could use which would be less biased in how they define what religions? We don't have to use their site at all if we don't like their attitude. AFAIK the Sword software is under a Free

Re: [Grassroots-l] World scriptures

2008-10-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would vote for the The Nag Hammadi Library (early christian lost gospels) to be included as well in this all-encompassing religions/theologies activity: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html . Are you putting your

9.1 Proposal: Textbooks (was Fwd: Call for Proposals for OLPC miniconference November 17-21, 2008)

2008-10-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
-- From: Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Call for Proposals for OLPC miniconference November 17-21, 2008 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An OLPC miniconference will be held November 17-21

World scriptures

2008-10-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
We have a Bible program in Sugar. Sword allows any number of texts, dictionaries, and commentaries in any combination of languages to be integrated together. I know where many other scriptures in many languages are available, and would like to start a project to integrate them into Sword and make

Re: World scriptures

2008-10-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The instructions for preparing new modules are at http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/DevTools:Modules Let's pick some short texts and try them out. I'll start with the Heart Sutra in Sanskrit and Chinese. New page

Re: [OLPC-Games] Play Go issues for laptop

2008-10-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
how many people were on it, or if this was the appropriate place for this discussion. Thanks, Paul Barchilon, American Go Foundation http://tigersmouth.org http://agfgo.org On Oct 10, 2008, at 7:37 PM, Andrés Ambrois wrote: On Friday 10 October 2008 06:49:58 Edward Cherlin wrote: I am

Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age

2008-10-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Carlos Nazareno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tomeu. Some personal feedback: 3) Basically - The journal is really hard for people/ kids to use over a longer period of time. Kids and teachers can't find things that they did unless it was done within the last 30

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
Martin, Deniz, cool it, the pair of you. No more ad hominem attacks. You each owe the other an apology. And one to Marco, too. The list is not out of touch. There are many on the list who are ignorant of conditions on the ground and of other things through no fault of their own. Now shake hands

Python 2.6 Turtle module and Sugar TurtleArt (was Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 63, Issue 11)

2008-10-08 Thread Edward Cherlin
How would you compare this turtle module with the TurtleArt activity in Sugar? It is available in .deb and .rpm packages for Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora, and also in .xo bundles, installable with xo-get.py. Sugar Labs is working with other Linux distributions to make Sugar packages available as

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, We need to pick the activities we ship with 8.2 when its manufactured for G1G1 users. Management needs to sign off on the final list as early as next week. Its not definitive but we want your input on what we

Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
Thanks for talking to us. This would be even more useful as the basis for an article or editorial in one or more of the computer magazines or Web sites, or a fact-filled press release. All of the media people I have talked with say they would like to hear from OLPC. We don't have to frame it as

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pgf wrote: bert wrote: Am 29.08.2008 um 15:34 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bert wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with bootstrapping help from

Re: OFW vs. proprietary BIOS

2008-08-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward Cherlin wrote. I also want to see Open Firmware replace proprietary BIOSes everywhere. I'd like that too, but it won't happen. The market forces that drive the computer business still favor proprietary thinking

Re: ibus, a new input framework

2008-08-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just came across ibus, an input framework which seems to be designed to be a better replacement for scim. A presentation is available online at http://ibus-user.googlegroups.com/web/ibus.pdf Has anyone used

Fwd: [ElectionReformActivistsforObama] LinuxWorld Obama vs McCain - YouTube

2008-08-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [ElectionReformActivistsforObama] LinuxWorld Obama vs McCain - YouTube To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Election Reform Activists for Obama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, thank you. I'm

Re: olpc school request

2008-08-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
or not? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments There isn't one. Jerry John 3:30 He must become greater and greater, and I must become less and less. - Original Message From: Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jerry and Amy Higdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: olpc school request

2008-08-21 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/8/21 Jerry and Amy Higdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Greetings, I am a missionary who is inquiring upon olpc for a couple small schools in Bangladesh. I also work as a technology management professional for the past 25 years and have a heart for children. Who might I contact to find out if

Re: Tux Type on the XO

2008-08-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/8/12 Cynthia Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, Please respond to David Bruce on the following issues. Thanks, --Cynthia Begin forwarded message: From: David Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: August 11, 2008 11:35:43 AM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Cynthia Solomon [EMAIL

Re: [Localization] Arabic Projects

2008-08-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Nicholas Bodley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed Jul 30 7:17 , Walter Bender sent: Welcome to the project. Localization is more that string translation. In particular, there is work to be done to improve the RTL rendering in Sugar. Do you know of any Python

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-08-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Jerry Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like this problem for linux was solved with RPM. I wouldn't go quite that far. The holes in RPM drove me to Debian. %-[ With rpm if something is missing for something you want to install, it complains and won't let

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-08-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I wrote up some collaboration requirements to help get us to a definition of collaboration support that teachers can use in schools. Thanks. It is not clear to me whether you mean to include the case of children at

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

2008-07-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo

Re: Definition of Stable Enough To Release for 8.2.0

2008-07-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
These are key issues. There are other nice-to-haves that I will bring up after this release goes out. -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay

Re: PlayGo Patches/Commit access

2008-07-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http

Re: Abiword 2.6.4 on Ubuntu (was Re: [sugar] Write needs your help)

2008-07-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
vowels do not attach to base consonants, but are displayed in their standalone form. I'm giving up for the day. -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay

Re: Instructions draft

2008-07-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
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Re: [sugar] Abiword 2.6.4 on Ubuntu (was Re: Write needs your help)

2008-07-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Ryan Pavlik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward Cherlin wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM, David Van Assche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This from the abiword on ubuntu webpage (http://abisource.com/wiki/Install_on_Ubuntu) At this time, the latest version

Abiword 2.6.4 on Ubuntu (was Re: [sugar] Write needs your help)

2008-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
and displaying Cyrillic and Greek correctly. I'll wait until I have something up-to-date to test before proceeding to the other 30+ possibilities. Kim, should we create a process for globalization QA? We need testing for Amharic, Arabic, Khmer, -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching

Re: [sugar] Abiword 2.6.4 on Ubuntu (was Re: Write needs your help)

2008-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, what I meant is that, ideally, we would be testing Write in joyride with the 2.6.4 version. As we don't have that version in joyride yet, I

Re: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO

2008-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
, so that users can turn author coloring on and off at will? -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel

Re: [Localization] How do we manage translation effort in Release, process/roadmap?

2008-07-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
. A different kind of policy is warranted. Thanks, Greg S -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
. - Eben ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent

Re: [Localization] How do we manage translation effort in Release, process/roadmap?

2008-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/localization -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http

Security for launching from URL (was Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features (Greg Smith))

2008-07-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
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Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
://www.nida.gov.kh/activities/localization/thai.pdf --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http

Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

2008-06-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
. But we would still like to coordinate our efforts with yours. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
PROTECTED] wrote: At Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:47:11 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad that Debian didn't break the rules for etoys. You're claiming to be open source, yet you've LOST the source code decades ago

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote: I think that the result of all this is that we can produce all of the C (or some other language, maybe CLOS) and Smalltalk source files that Debian wants (even if we think of the C

Re: Dictionaries/spell checkers

2008-06-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
FVSeegy1WY9TSD0MlG+Bf9k= =fBCK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Sayamindu Dasgupta [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:43:45 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: I think that the result of all this is that we can produce all of the C (or some other language, maybe CLOS) and Smalltalk source files that Debian wants (even if we think of the C as compiler output, we

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
, reasonably commented C source for VM and toolset). And to put into our git whatever people want in git, without making pointless busywork for the Etoyers. Or set up an instance of Monticello for Etoys versioning and package management. Win-win-win. -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit

Re: etoys implementation

2008-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
created in Smalltalk. -- Yoshiki ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict

Re: wiki spam!

2008-06-20 Thread Edward Cherlin
@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel

Unicode for Etoys

2008-06-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
? -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.--Alan Kay ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Read Etexts now supports Text To Speech

2008-06-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
? This would be one of my favorite demos. The Activity page is: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Read_Etexts James Simmons ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
section to the standard files. Walter, Kim, what can you tell us about XO-ization? How standard are the changes for Latin-alphabet layouts? What do we know about the remaining non-Latin layouts? Who else has worked on this? Best regards. Lionel. -- Edward Cherlin End

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
. -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 08:18:10 -0700 From: Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible EuropeanG1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards] To: Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chuck

Re: [Localization] [Fwd: Re: #7116 NORM Never A: Possible European G1G1 program needs appropriate keyboards]

2008-06-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
proposed originally for OLPC keyboards by cycling through a list. See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Keyboard for links to other available layouts. On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for so much cross-posting, but this affects us all. On Mon, Jun 2

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