TurtleArt problems in Ubuntu

2011-05-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/turtleart/+bug/731133 TurtleArt 98.1, as packaged for Ubuntu, is missing essential files and cannot start. Who is responsible for this package? -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my

Re: [Localization] Fwd: Updated 11.2.0 schedule

2011-05-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
At the end of your e-mail, you wrote > Testing is much appreciated. It sounds as if there is no formal testing process for Sugar on XOs. I know that this is the case for packaging for various distributions. I recently found out through my own testing of the release that Turtle Blocks for Ubuntu N

Raspberry Pi (was Fwd: [Sur] linux system por $25)

2011-05-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
FYI. Anybody who would like to port Sugar to a $25 computer (requiring only monitor, mouse, and keyboard) should contact Eben, and let us know too. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edward Cherlin Date: Sat, May 21, 2011 at 22:10 Subject: Re: [Sur] linux system por $25 To: Eben Upton

Re: quick Forth question

2010-01-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:59, Daniel Drake wrote: > Can anyone help me with a tiny Forth script? Can never quite get my > head around the language. I once wrote pen plotter programs in FORTH for fractals, to test the plotter mechanism. Hypnotic. > I'm trying to set up an if-else based on whethe

Re: Haiti OLPCs - some news

2009-11-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
Sounds good. On the data entry, what medical software is in use? Is anybody considering OpenMRS, which Zanmi Lasanté (Partners in Health) promotes, or OpenVistA, free software based on the US Veterans' Administration software? Are people thinking about how to network from village to town to city

Re: New Synthetic Phonics Literacy Activity

2009-11-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:03, Mike Dawson wrote: > Hi All, > > As many of the target areas for the XOs suffer from massive illiteracy > problems, and some live away from where schools will be built during > the time that they grow up and could benefit from a literacy learning > activity using hom

Re: OLPC XO 1.5 overheating problems

2009-10-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
I don't know whether I can help, but I'm willing to try. I edited the Geode manuals for National Semiconductor before they sold the product line to AMD. The throttling and suspension mechanisms are quite complicated, but the explanations seemed to make sufficient sense at the time. Of course, they

Re: OFW access from linux

2009-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Paul Fox wrote: > on the XO, openfirmware stays resident when linux runs, and is > accessible via an API specified in arch/x86/kernel/ofw.c.  i've > just pushed a commit to our 2.6.30 kernel branch that adds a > sysrq hook (SysRq-y) for starting (returning to?) the

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
fly without problems, but I cannot type other currency symbols such as € or £ within Sugar. I will have to do much more language and locale testing. > Thanks again for taking time to work with SocialCalc so we can help provide > this functionality around the world through this platform. &

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
I ran through all of the basic functions of SocialCalc, including every icon on every tab. I have tested some but not all of the 109 functions provided, with good results so far. Although there are functions I could wish for, the only real deficiency I have found is in the documentation. I have cr

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
I downloaded SocialCalc from the Activities subdomain to the journal, where it installed and ran with no difficulty. I will give it some serious testing soon. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Manusheel Gupta wrote: > Dear community members, > > We are preparing for the next release of SocialCalc o

Re: [IAEP] SHIRT SLOGAN VOTE! "Class Acts" Poster! OLPC/Sugar Community Book Sprint (Sept 6-11, Washington DC)

2009-08-31 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Holt wrote: > Please vote for the back of our T-Shirt -- Mike Lee's image will be on the > front of the shirt: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/3865753915/in/photostream/ > But we need your help for the back!!! > > Proposal #1 (yes the "constuctionist asses

Re: [Sugar-devel] erasing the journal and config

2009-08-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/8/27 Sameer Verma : >> We have a lending library at SFSU, ready to go, but we need to have a >> way to erase the config and journal every time the XO comes back from >> a borrower. > In my opinion, this is silly. Teach them how to run a s

Re: The Next Wave of Activity Sharing

2009-07-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Joshua Eddy wrote: > Sugar Labs DC would like to propose an exciting new direction for the > development of the Sugar interface.  It is our belief that in the > spirit of sharing and collaboration, Sugar activities should be > publishable to the Internet, just as t

Re: is anyone actually doing Windows on XO work here?

2009-07-21 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > Hey all. > > Check out the latest piece: > Negroponte Sees Sugar As OLPC's Biggest Mistake > http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/07/20/1628228 > > (The title is bad FUD from OLPC News -- it's actually Negroponte > saying that Sugar s

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal and filenames on USB disks - more leases.sig problems

2009-07-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
Better way: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities#Midnight_Commander On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > I am trying to get leases.sig from the XS to the USB stick. On 8.2.x, > Browse.xo saves the file as > >   File leases.sig from http://... > > ... two possible ways to m

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >   > What is the command to start Sugar in 20090519.iso? There is no >   > 'sugar-emulator', and 'sugar' fails. > > On the first login screen, choose "Sugar" instead of "GNOME" on the > Session dropdown at the bottom of the screen. Got

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
What is the command to start Sugar in 20090519.iso? There is no 'sugar-emulator', and 'sugar' fails. Is their an installer on the image? It doesn't make itself obvious. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > We have some good news:  OLPC has decided to base its software release > f

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> If you're interested in contributing, we'd certainly love your help, >>> and you can find us on the fedora-olpc mailing list¹, and freenode >>> IRC's #fedora-olpc channel.  Our existing F11 build images for the >>> XO-1 are here², and we'

Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.

2009-05-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > We have some good news:  OLPC has decided to base its software release > for the new XO-1.5 laptop on Fedora 11.  Unlike previous releases, we > plan to use a full Fedora desktop build, booting into Sugar but giving > users the option to switch

Re: from Peru, sugar in DEBIAN

2009-05-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:17 PM, OLPC Puno wrote: > My name is Sdenka from Puno Peru, since one month we are using Debian at > Glorioso San Carlos High School in PERU. We installed the sugar and 10 > activities including in Debian packages, then added ETOYS, SCRATCH AND > LOGOTURTLE. > > I need th

Re: [Grassroots-l] OLPC Project

2009-04-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Angule Gabriel wrote: > > Hello > > iEARN Kenya has interest in this project and would do with as many laptops as > you would practically be able to provide in its endeavour to initiate the ICT > integration in education programme within Kenyan schools. Similarly

Another Linux in education

2009-03-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
Here is another needed port of Sugar. http://itschool.gov.in/otherprograms.php#6 The Kerala IT Education Department believes that sharing is an important virtue. However, sharing proprietary software would be a violation of the End User. Building collaboration and sharing practices are essential

Re: [Sugar-devel] instructions for flashing SoaS on a XO

2009-03-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/3/6 Wade Brainerd : > Glad to hear it works, I'm going to try it this weekend on my XO. > I wonder if we could get the release team to execute these steps > automatically for each release, and then make .img files available on > downloads.sugarlabs.org along with the .iso files? +1 I have als

eBook controls (was Re: rotate button sucks on the XO)

2009-03-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:43 PM,   wrote: >> On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Eben Eliason wrote: >> >> second, you may want to use the keys for something else and not dedicate >> them to moving the mouse around. For example, next page, previous page, front

Re: Price point plus sales to individuals

2009-02-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/2/18 Robert D. Fadel : > > On Feb 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM, John Watlington wrote: > >>I don't see how a non-profit can do this, as requires financing at >>risk, and >>staffing for uncertain demand.    Let me know when you have the capital. > > Absolutely true and I'm not sure the capital would be

Re: Price point plus sales to individuals

2009-02-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > Okay, so those of you who are keen on there being a way for individuals > to buy XOs at $2xx dollars should place a volume order, set up a web > site, and start raking in the dough. Earth Treasury has wanted to do that for more than a year,

Re: Journal empty in Soas-200902231225 and what is Soas-200902241809.iso in snapshots/2/ ?

2009-02-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Ton van Overbeek wrote: > When trying out Soas-200902231225 the journal stays empty. > Anybody else seen this ? This is true in several versions of Sugar, including Ubuntu packages. Jonas Smedegård has made a patch for it, available from http://debian.jones.dk/ s

Re: power consumption after shutdown

2009-02-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > > > by default the wireless card remains alive to participate in a > > potential mesh network, disabling wireless should give you a lot > > more time. > > You're thinking of sleep mode, not the full shutdown that Mikus is doing. Tha

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-02-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Jordan Crouse wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: > >> National Semiconductor, which bought the line from Cyrix. I edited >> several of the pin- and register-level manuals for various chips for >> them more than ten years ago, and updates of

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/1/27 Benjamin M. Schwartz : > Carlos Nazareno wrote: >> Do ARM processors do these things better than anything else on the >> market right now? but then you lose the X86 compatibility and this >> probably breaks things for cross-platform upstream contributions for >> any deved/researched write

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: >>> AMD bought the Geode business from another company. > > National Semiconductor, which bought the line from Cyrix. I edited > several of the pin- and register-level manuals for various chips for > them more tha

Re: AMD to stop working on Geodes (Carlos Nazareno)

2009-01-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlos Nazareno >> wrote: >> >>> > AMD sees no Geode chip replacement in sight >>> > AMD on Monday said it has no replacement for the aging Geode low

Re: see ya'

2009-01-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM, wrote: > like many others, today is my last day at OLPC. my short tenure > here has been loads of fun, and it's been an honor to be close to > the center of such a great project. > > i'll be around -- please stay in touch. to the extent i can, i'll > be followin

Re: Leaving

2009-01-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:50 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Like many others, Friday will be my last day employed by OLPC. I've > enjoyed working on the project a lot, and hope to find some way to > continue the work that has been begun. I'm very sorry to hear that. Will you be able to attend XOC

zen root (was Re: Flash wiki entries)

2009-01-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: >>> Anyway, why does this wiki page tell you to enter >>> sudo su - > > Some future zen compilation of sudo may support infinite nesting of > levels of protectedness, so that you have to really REALLY mean it to > say sudo sudo sudo 'make me

Re: G1G1 updates, Lennon video and other vids

2008-12-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Bastien wrote: > "Samuel Klein" writes: > >> The Lennon video that's been murmured about for weeks has been >> released. I'm curious to see reactions from the list. > > I only like the beginning - flying XOs... the first attempt for a > forthcoming screensaver "

Re: Deployment image customization

2008-12-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 09:18:51PM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: >>On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 18:29, Daniel Drake wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Greg Smith wrote: Your suggestion that we allow addition of RPMs and get th

Re: What's going on with Text To Speech on the XO?

2008-12-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
g. > He was making RPMs for Fedora for installing speech-dispatcher. > > James Simmons > > Edward Cherlin wrote: >> >> Welcome back. There is significant interest from other organizations >> in our use of TTS with text coloring. I have just started discussions >&g

Re: XO deployment count?

2008-12-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:30 PM, wrote: >>> In countries all over the world, XOs are *actually arriving in >>> children's hands*. >>> --scott >>> >>> [*] "roughly" means there are lots of minor details I'm omitting; Peru >> >> rough numbers

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:53 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> Some of us are new to one or another part of this issue, and need a bit more >> background. > >> o Can you list the offending binaries and explain their faults? > > Sure. For example, "ls" is part of the Coreutils. In 8.2.0, it's > license

Re: [Grassroots-l] SugarLabs Sur - Libre Social Network Project

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Sebastian Silva wrote: > Friends of our community, > > I'd like to introduce you to a project that Rafael, me, Alejandro > (proj.man.) , Antonio (django wiz), Alfredo (theather educ) and Jose > (mathematics professor at the UNMSM) have been working on. > It is our

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:52:54AM -0800, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:14 AM, John Gilmore wrote: >>> >>> OLPC is at risk of similar action unless it gets its act together. >&

Re: Free Software Foundation Files Suit Against Cisco For GPL Violations

2008-12-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:14 AM, John Gilmore wrote: > OLPC is at risk of similar action unless it gets its act together. > The project and its customers have skated by on GPL compliance, > figuring that we're the good guys, and make halfhearted attempts every > once in a while, so we won't get s

Re: What's going on with Text To Speech on the XO?

2008-12-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
Welcome back. There is significant interest from other organizations in our use of TTS with text coloring. I have just started discussions with the Doug Engelbart Foundation, Creative Commons ccLearn, Alan Kay's Viewpoints Research, and OLE about a new project to create a full range of teaching mat

Re: Music Keyboard for TamTam?

2008-12-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Caryl Bigenho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for all your efforts! > > The last time I used a midi keyboard with a Mac (it was a G3) it had to have > a special "midi interface" and then was just "plug and play" from there > using Finale as a program. In looking

Re: Sugar installer for Windows

2008-12-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
Would you add that to the Sugar options in the Wiki? On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Wade Brainerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I wrote a simple Sugar installer for Windows: > http://dev.laptop.org/~wadeb/OLPC-XO-Software-8.2.0-Setup.exe > > It installs/uninstalls a working Sugar env

Re: Music Keyboard for TamTam?

2008-12-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
See also http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/189728345/ Walter and Simon demonstrate MIDI keyboard input into the A-TEST board Taken on July 14, 2006, uploaded July 14, 2006 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1 Dec 2008, at 04:01, Gary C Martin wro

Re: Music Keyboard for TamTam?

2008-11-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/11/15 Caryl Bigenho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I was wondering if there would be a way to connect a usb musical keyboard to > the XO to use with the TamTam suite of Activities? > > The software would have to be able to recognize the input from the > keyboard. A small 37-key midi keyboard

Re: [Localization] OLPC Afghanistan

2008-11-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [changing to the olpc devel mailing list] > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Ebtihaj Obaidi > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi dears. >> finally OLPC Afghanistan started its official work from Afghanistan. >> For details

Re: [Olpc-open] The 40th Anniversary of the Dynabook event at Computer History Museum

2008-10-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:45 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:24:09 -0400, > Brian Jordan wrote: >> >> Cool! (bump) > > Yes and thanks. The third panelist has been announced and it is > none other than Mary Lou Jepsen. > > http://www.computerhistory.org/even

Re: [Localization] [sugar] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please be _very_ careful on any thought about teaching English with the XO. It is a requirement in many countries. We don't have a choice. > Enemies of the project everywhere are just waiting for a chance, any > chan

Fwd: 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
Sorry, this got away before I added the rest of the recipients. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:25 PM Subject: Re: 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO. To: Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tue,

Re: [Community-news] Software developers needed for OLPC Afghanistan

2008-10-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:09:21 -0700, "Edward Cherlin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I am interested Svetla.

Re: [Community-news] Software developers needed for OLPC Afghanistan

2008-10-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am interested Svetla. > I have lots of skills and I do also possess a bit of charm. > I am not religious but that does not mean that I am against religion. > Sadly my knowledge of > computers thus far are only windows based. I

9.1 Proposal: Textbooks (was Fwd: Call for Proposals for OLPC miniconference November 17-21, 2008)

2008-10-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
-- Forwarded message ------ From: Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Call for Proposals for OLPC miniconference November 17-21, 2008 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An OLPC m

Re: [Grassroots-l] World scriptures

2008-10-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Eduardo H. Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would vote for the The Nag Hammadi Library (early christian lost > gospels) to be included as well in this all-encompassing > religions/theologies activity: http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html > . Are you putting

Re: [Grassroots-l] World scriptures

2008-10-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Lisa Caroline Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any other sites we could use which would be less biased in how > they define what religions? We don't have to use their site at all if we don't like their attitude. AFAIK the Sword software is under a Free

Re: World scriptures

2008-10-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The instructions for preparing new modules are at > > http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/DevTools:Modules > > Let's pick some short texts and try them out. I'll start with the > H

Re: World scriptures

2008-10-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
The instructions for preparing new modules are at http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/index.php/DevTools:Modules Let's pick some short texts and try them out. I'll start with the Heart Sutra in Sanskrit and Chinese. On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

World scriptures

2008-10-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
We have a Bible program in Sugar. Sword allows any number of texts, dictionaries, and commentaries in any combination of languages to be integrated together. I know where many other scriptures in many languages are available, and would like to start a project to integrate them into Sword and make t

Re: [OLPC-Games] Play Go issues for laptop

2008-10-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
>> your program if that were more feasible for an end product. >>> What materials describe the application to laptop users, and entice them >>> to >>> explore it? My understanding was that it needs to be downloaded >>> separately >>> from the main p

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
Martin, Deniz, cool it, the pair of you. No more ad hominem attacks. You each owe the other an apology. And one to Marco, too. The list is not out of touch. There are many on the list who are ignorant of conditions on the ground and of other things through no fault of their own. Now shake hands a

Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age

2008-10-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Tomeu. Some personal feedback: > >> 3) Basically - The journal is really hard for people/ kids to use over >> a longer period of time. Kids and teachers can't find things that they >> did unless it was done within the l

Python 2.6 Turtle module and Sugar TurtleArt (was Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 63, Issue 11)

2008-10-08 Thread Edward Cherlin
How would you compare this turtle module with the TurtleArt activity in Sugar? It is available in .deb and .rpm packages for Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora, and also in .xo bundles, installable with xo-get.py. Sugar Labs is working with other Linux distributions to make Sugar packages available as wide

Re: "Walter Bender": Re: devkeys, prettyboot, and G1G1

2008-10-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
I don't mind if the G1G1 donors have the option to participate in testing secured laptops, but I utterly reject the notion that we can jerk customer/donors around like this without their permission in advance. They _will_ complain publicly. Engineering and marketing should never have the authority

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > We need to pick the activities we ship with 8.2 when its manufactured > for G1G1 users. Management needs to sign off on the final list as early > as next week. > > Its not definitive but we want your input on what

Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
Thanks for talking to us. This would be even more useful as the basis for an article or editorial in one or more of the computer magazines or Web sites, or a fact-filled press release. All of the media people I have talked with say they would like to hear from OLPC. We don't have to frame it as u

Re: OFW vs. proprietary BIOS

2008-08-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote. >> I also want to see Open Firmware replace proprietary BIOSes everywhere. > > I'd like that too, but it won't happen. The market forces that drive > the compute

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pgf wrote: > >> bert wrote: >> > Am 29.08.2008 um 15:34 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> > >> > > bert wrote: >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA >> > >> >> > >> Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with b

Re: ibus, a new input framework

2008-08-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I just came across ibus, an input framework which seems to be designed > to be a better replacement for scim. A presentation is available > online at http://ibus-user.googlegroups.com/web/ibus.pdf > Has anyone u

Fwd: [ElectionReformActivistsforObama] LinuxWorld Obama vs McCain - YouTube

2008-08-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [ElectionReformActivistsforObama] LinuxWorld Obama vs McCain - YouTube To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Election Reform Activists for Obama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ah, thank you.

Re: olpc school request

2008-08-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
ladesh going right > now or not? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments There isn't one. > Jerry > > John 3:30 He must become greater and greater, and I must become less and > less. > > - Original Message > From: Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: olpc school request

2008-08-21 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/8/21 Jerry and Amy Higdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Greetings, > > I am a missionary who is inquiring upon olpc for a couple small schools in > Bangladesh. > I also work as a technology management professional for the past 25 years > and have a heart for children. > > Who might I contact to find

Re: Tux Type on the XO

2008-08-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/8/12 Cynthia Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All, > Please respond to David Bruce on the following issues. > Thanks, > --Cynthia > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "David Bruce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: August 11, 2008 11:35:43 AM EDT > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: "Cynthia Sol

Re: [Localization] Arabic Projects

2008-08-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Nicholas Bodley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed Jul 30 7:17 , "Walter Bender" sent: > >>Welcome to the project. >> >>Localization is more that string translation. In particular, there is >>work to be done to improve the RTL rendering in Sugar. Do you know of

Re: Collaboration Requirements

2008-08-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I wrote up some collaboration requirements to help get us to a > definition of collaboration support that teachers can use in schools. Thanks. It is not clear to me whether you mean to include the case of children

Re: [sugar] specifying what services Activities may use

2008-08-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Jerry Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems like this problem for linux was solved with RPM. I wouldn't go quite that far. The holes in RPM drove me to Debian. %-[ > With rpm if something is missing for something you want to install, it > complains and won't

Re: CIS solar charging-correct list?

2008-07-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
gt; ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to predi

Re: Definition of "Stable Enough To Release" for 8.2.0

2008-07-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
y access to Dvorak keyboard options. * GUI, fine. * Command line, might be tolerable * Edit configuration files, no way These are key issues. There are other nice-to-haves that I will bring up after this release goes out. -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business h

Re: PlayGo Patches/Commit access

2008-07-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
eat to have it added. > > Also, I'm Uruguayan so I'll take care of the spanish translation :). If anyone > needs any help with Spanish, I'm usually around at #olpc :D > -- > -Andrés > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.l

Re: [sugar] Abiword 2.6.4 on Ubuntu (was Re: Write needs your help)

2008-07-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Ryan Pavlik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM, David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> This from the abiword on ubuntu webpage >>> (http://abisource.com/wiki

Re: Instructions draft

2008-07-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_program_review_process > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business htt

Re: electricity table (Google Docs)

2008-07-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
inutes to 15 minutes daily. Your table, unaccountably, gives well over an hour of pulling daily. > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profi

Re: Abiword 2.6.4 on Ubuntu (was Re: [sugar] Write needs your help)

2008-07-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
y appear as Unicode hex substitution glyphs. Armenian and Arabic display OK. Bengali vowels do not attach to base consonants, but are displayed in their standalone form. I'm giving up for the day. -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury

Re: [sugar] Programming environments on the XO

2008-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
is such a good idea > though. The document will quickly become a mess. Though if the kids > want to do this they can. > > Cheers > > Martin It will be much more of a mess if you can't tell who wrote what in a collaborative editing session. Does Abiword provide change tr

Re: [sugar] Abiword 2.6.4 on Ubuntu (was Re: Write needs your help)

2008-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sorry, what I meant is that, ideally, we would be testing Write in >> joyride with the 2.6.4 version. As we don't

Abiword 2.6.4 on Ubuntu (was Re: [sugar] Write needs your help)

2008-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
ange? So far I have the old version of Write that Ubuntu offers accepting and displaying Cyrillic and Greek correctly. I'll wait until I have something up-to-date to test before proceeding to the other 30+ possibilities. Kim, should we create a process for globalization QA? We need testing for A

Re: [sugar] Write needs your help (was Re: Programming environments on the XO)

2008-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> The abi devs have als

Re: [sugar] Write needs your help (was Re: Programming environments on the XO)

2008-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
t; Thanks, > > Tomeu > ___ > Sugar mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ "The best way to

Re: [Localization] How do we manage translation effort in Release, process/roadmap?

2008-07-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
Let me know which of those you prefer or if you think a different lead > time is warranted. A different kind of policy is warranted. > Thanks, > > Greg S -- Edward Cherlin End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business http://www.

Re: low power actions?

2008-07-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
the Journal would be able to recognize when a save transaction > doesn't finish and either replace it with the most recent temporary > state or remove the entry compeletely. > > - Eben > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.lapto

Re: [Localization] How do we manage translation effort in Release, process/roadmap?

2008-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
t similar announcement for every activities, or will > > > the window for translation of activity aligned to > > > development road map of sugarlab or OLPC? > > > > > > Maybe I missed important thing, though... > > > > > > Thanks in advance >

Security for launching from URL (was Re: Release 8.2.0 -- pls add critical features (Greg Smith))

2008-07-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
e important matters. You should come out > to > Nepal one of these days. As I told one of the developers recently: > Get Thee to a Pilot site! Any Pilot site! > > Bryan > Kathmandu > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org &

Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/7/2 C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I would expect it to be the same as the Debian package ttf-thai-tlwg, >> but if not, then you have a new resource. >> >> Thai f

Re: fonts-thai-ttf has been abandoned!

2008-07-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
g Mono, Tlwg Typewriter, Purisa). http://www.nida.gov.kh/activities/localization/thai.pdf > --scott > > -- > ( http://cscott.net/ ) > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/de

Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

2008-06-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
king with others to create a separate process for researching and deploying other parts of the solution, such as electricity and Internet in villages with microfinance support, parts which are out of scope for OLPC. But we would still like to coordinate our efforts with yours. > ___

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
at 11:17 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:43:45 -0700, > Edward Cherlin wrote: >> >> I think that the result of all this is that we can produce all of the >> C (or some other language, maybe CLOS) and Smalltalk source files that >

Re: Dictionaries/spell checkers

2008-06-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
> >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sayamindu Dasgupta >>> [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings] >>> ___ >>> Devel mailing list >>> Devel@lists.laptop.org >>>

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jun 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote: > >> I think that the result of all this is that we can produce all of the >> C (or some other language, maybe CLOS) and Smalltalk source files that >> Debian wa

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