Re: [Server-devel] ds-backup
On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:00 AM, George Hunt wrote: Your analysis conforms with my experience. When I tried to carry mod_python over into FC18, it conflicted with apache. I didn't spend much time thinking about carrying apache along. It is my understanding mod_python was dropped as a supported package beginning with fedora 18. mod_python upstream has not been updated for years it seems. It is my understanding that mod_wsgi has a better memory foot print than mod_python. I'm sort of looking forward to debugging my new version of ds-backup server, which uses mod_wsgi. It seems like a relatively localized change. George On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 3:16 PM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Daniel, I noticed that you were working on ds-backup recently. I was trying to get XSCE running on fc18, and encountered the issue of fedora dropping mod-python (see https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5165). Is it ok to just carry the fc17 version along in our repo, and try to see if it just works, or should we set a goal of rewriting to mod_wsgi? Carrying along an old mod_python might be tricky, I think F18 has a new apache version with some incompatibilities. I would port it to wsgi. Daniel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: error building oob for XO 1.75
On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Basanta Shrestha wrote: Dear all, After being unsuccessful in installing packages inside fedora arm virtual box , I have now installed fedora 18( as host system , earlier it was fedora 14) and now I am having problem running fedora-arm under virtual box. # virsh start arm1 error: Failed to start domain arm1 error: internal error process exited while connecting to monitor: Error: Cirrus VGA not available Regards, Basanta ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel The Fedora ARM team can probably help you. Send an email to their list https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm describing what you are attempting to do. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: ARM motherboards
Sameer, I see you already found a mention of MPICH2 . Coincidentally was going suggest this coming Saturday as something to demonstrate at OLPC-SF. http://www.mcs.anl.gov/research/projects/mpich2/ http://www.mcs.anl.gov/research/projects/mpich2/documentation/files/mpich2-1.4.1-installguide.pdf I know it is outside the scope of OLPC but it would be interesting to see what this type of message passing interface could do on a group of XOs. Robert On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: Something like this: http://paritynews.com/hardware/item/302-engineers-build-supercomputer-using-raspberry-pi-lego On Sep 11, 2012 10:43 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:43 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Sep 4, 2012, at 10:47 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: Hi gang! http://blog.laptop.org/2012/09/04/are-you-working-with-xo-laptops-that-need-an-upgrade/ So, is there a minimum number of motherboards that one has to buy? Pricing? Both answers should be available from the email listed in the blog: countr...@laptop.org. Any other details? We've supported this from the beginning by design. Kits have been available as spare parts for deployments to purchase. Upgrading an XO-1 to an XO-1.5 or higher motherboard requires the insertion of a small metal bracket to hold the WLAN card. The XO-1.5/1.75 chassis are mechanically identical. Upgrading an earlier laptop to an XO-4 motherboard will require a small rubber piece inserted to change the size of one chassis hole from USB to micro HDMI. Unfortunately, the mechanics of XO-4 Touch mean it cannot be retrofitted. You can get the higher performance by upgrading to an XO-4, but sadly no multi-touch support. A kit includes all the parts needed to upgrade a particular laptop model. In addition to a motherboard (if XO-4 with an internal connector missing) this generally includes a new heat spreader, a WLAN card (if needed), and conductive foam/tape as needed to improve the ESD shielding of the earlier chassis. We do perform some testing of older laptops upgraded to each new motherboard design in order to construct appropriate upgrade kits. Cheers, wad Thanks for the details. I was walking through a replacement workflow in my mind for my Jamaica and India projects, and I realized that if/once the upgrades are done, one would be left with several older working motherboards. What's to become of these? If someone could design a chassis to hold a bunch of boards together...imagine a Beowulf cluster of these! (sorry, couldn't resist). Is that a lunch box? No, it's my Beowolf cluster. Can I compute something for you? cheers, Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Epiphany issues XO 1.0 build 20 12.1.0
I can confirm what you are seeing with build 20 12.1.0 and Browse and asking for a developer key. By the way the OFW I have is Q2F12. At least with this version of Browse hml5test.com displays without crashing. On Aug 26, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Kevin Gordon wrote: Noticed something strange in the behaviour of browse on RC build 20. Fresh install of build from USB key Connect to access point Verify date correct Go into Browse Ask to get a developer key - Page starts to refresh but doesn't complete - only one border line appears, no text, no submit button - on first look seems to 'hang' - then hit home key, home screen does not completely refresh - stop activity, start new or restart, similar symptoms - if one doesn't atttempt to home before stopping, restarting browse with the failed developer key request j/e causes browse to terminate. F/W Q2F13 XO 1.0 only Sugar Browse (140) only tested at this point Reflashed machine to 12.1.0 RC Build 14 which contains Browse 137 repeat process - same behaviour as above Repeated attempts 2 times on tow machines one each of Build 20 and Build 14, with start new On second attempt, hovering over the globe/browse icon at the top left on one of the machines caused a partial page to appear On third attempt, both the full request text screen and submit button appeared, submit worked, devkey shown on one machine On fourth attempt, machine 1, same symptons as first, with some strange squares appearing instead of readable characters Other attempts on both machines consistent with first behaviour - incomplete page Entering https://activation.laptop.org into the address bar in Epiphany in Gnome also causes some similar strange things to appear. Only have tried the above on an XO-1 at present. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Firmware issu
On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Kevin Gordon wrote: Folks I've noticed that on multiple XO 1's with Build 20, 12.1.0 and FW Q2F13 that entering reboot from terminal then tapping on the x key to get into OFW brings up a spurious Lid switch is active - powering off in 8 seconds after the OK prompt appears. The lid is indeed fully open, after all, I am hitting the 'x' key, so I'm not sure how the machine thinks it's closed :-) I see this with an X0-1 with build 20, 12.1.0 and OFW Q2F12 Type lid-off to disable this at the OK prevents it from shutting off, when I ent4er it in time, but I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this symptom. When entering reboot from OFW, I have never seen the spurious message. Likewise, on a cold-boot from power off state, I never see the message. Cheers KG ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Call For Proposals: OLPC SF Community Summit 2012
OLPC-SF has opened proposal submission for the 2012 Community Summit held in San Francisco, California during the weekend of October 19th-21st. Submission form here: http://olpcsf.org/submit-proposal-2012 Workshops range from topics in Technology to Education to Outreach and are generally in the range of 60-75 minutes. Group organized workshops are also encouraged. You can read more about proposal submission on our blog: http://olpcsf.org/node/66 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
OLPC SF Community Summit 2012! Fri, Oct 19 - Sun, Oct 21
The OLPC-SF volunteers are planning the upcoming OLPC San Francisco Community Summit 2012 in San Francisco, CA, USA. The dates are: Oct 19 (registration and reception) Oct 20 (full day) Oct 21 (full day) The web page will be fully active in a couple of weeks. We will be accepting proposals for topics and talks soon. Please start thinking of topics which you might like to present. http://olpcsf.org/summit ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] ARM on XS -- how can I integrate my work?
On Jun 25, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 8:14 AM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not done yet, but I've been making progress on porting XS code to ARM by making modifications to DSD's XS-0.7. Upon his suggestion, I have been basing my work on the srpms posted at http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xsrepos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/. Now that I've got some of the services running, I'm wondering how to contribute to the XS codebase. What I'd prefer is to contribute deltas from XS-0.7 that use `uname -p` to enable the appropriate path through the startup scripts. That kind of approach would suggest supporting both CentOS and F17+. I'm not sure if thats the direction we'd want to go - supporting 2 platforms has its costs. It might be preferred to do a full migration to F17. You'll need clarification from this from Martin, who's away until next month. There is no CentOS for ARM. It is not even on the horizon yet. On the other hand rpmfusion has recently expressed interest in building for the 2 ARM archs supported by Fedora. I have been targeting F17 for ARM with an eye to F18 for ARM which may make the cut to become a primary architecture. Earlier, I started using the git sources at dev.laptop.org, and I discovered that there did not appear to be an obvious set of git repos, corresponding to XS-0.7. Paths for repos that had the most recent changes included: /packages/ /projects/ /bios-crypto/ /users/martin/ Any suggestions on how we should proceed? I think you just need to sit down and hunt these down. It shouldn't take you long, using version numbers found in the most recent RPM packages, etc. Many of the XS component webpages have links to the git repo, e.g. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS-rsync If there are ones that don't, maybe you can add the links. And if you really get stuck, you can ask for help for a particular package. Daniel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] ARM on XS -- how can I integrate my work?
On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:14 AM, George Hunt wrote: Hi all, I'm not done yet, but I've been making progress on porting XS code to ARM by making modifications to DSD's XS-0.7. Upon his suggestion, I have been basing my work on the srpms posted at http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xsrepos/stable/olpc/xs-0.7/source/. I'm following Peter Robinson's suggestion, and using FC17 armv7hl snapshots as a base. The systemd startup requires mostly trivial changes from the old systemV mechanisms. Now that I've got some of the services running, I'm wondering how to contribute to the XS codebase. What I'd prefer is to contribute deltas from XS-0.7 that use `uname -p` to enable the appropriate path through the startup scripts. But I think contributing deltas presupposes that I'm working off of a git repository. Earlier, I started using the git sources at dev.laptop.org, and I discovered that there did not appear to be an obvious set of git repos, corresponding to XS-0.7. Paths for repos that had the most recent changes included: /packages/ /projects/ /bios-crypto/ /users/martin/ Any suggestions on how we should proceed? George ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel George, A while ago I asked for clarification about which git branches where the correct ones to pull from and never got a satisfactory answer. I had a few things I wanted to submit as patches but have been holding back on it. Meanwhile I had a few equipment failures and had to rebuild some drives and used my main ARM system for testing the evolving F17 for ARM which has finally gone GA. ( Along with some disruption from a flood which fortunately missed the XOs). I think the approach overall that I have been taking is a bit different from yours as my long term goal is to support the 2 current ARM archs that Fedora currently is built for and trying a few other new things to make the components used to be more similar to what is upstream. This is possibly a more experimental approach than you are using. Part of my plan is to set up my own ARM based Koji system. I have enough ARM devices to do this but need to order one more to make it more viable. Maybe we can compare notes in October...at the OLPC-SF 2012 Community Summit. regards, Robert H rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Browse crashes - os11 running on XO 1.75
Browse crashes very easily. For example opening http://html5test.com crashes Browse. (By the way Browse does get a nice score on the test). rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] School server on ARM related question: Systemd on fc17 doesn't see ethernet dongles or USB sticks
On May 19, 2012, at 12:22 PM, George Hunt wrote: Hi all, There are no entries in /var/log/messages or dmesg relating to my test USB stick at /dev/sdb1, even though during the boot process, dracut sees an 8 GB sdb as well as the 132GB hard disk on sda that is the rootfs (so I think the proper drivers are in the kernel). I'm playing with the trimslice root fs and kernel snapshots available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM. This is a known problem with the TrimsSlice and has been documented on the fedora arm list Fedora 17 for ARM is just approaching the end of alpha development and a fix may appear soon if it has not occurred already. The place to ask about F17 for ARM is at the fedora arm email list. I also cannot configure an ethernet dongle, which the kernel doesn't appear to respond to, when inserted. Any pointers to documentation, or what modules's source I might study? I don't really understand how HAL was replaced, or why there are no entries in the kernel log. Thanks, George ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: expand fs issue(?)
On May 6, 2012, at 11:59 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: Installed 21009o2.zd in 2 XO-1.75 and on the one the fs failed to expand. fdisk shows that the card is indeed 4GB and OFW warns in red writing that the image is smaller than the device. I saw the exact same behavior with 21009o2.zd. Anything I should be looking for specifically before I retry or after, if this repeats? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS procurement recommendations (new hardware - Nosy Komba, Madagascar)
On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:11 PM, John Watlington wrote: Just a quick reminder that we have XO-1.75 production units available for people who want to work on XS on ARM. Just fill out the form at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contributors_program/Project_proposal_form and list XS on ARM XO as the project. If you have any problems getting one this way, drop me a note. I had applied for one for just this purpose back in mid February and only got an automated RT email and nothing else. I will send you a separate email with the RT id. Cheers, wad On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:52 PM, George Hunt wrote: Hi Kevin, As far as I can tell, the system programmers in Boston are very occupied with getting 1.75 and 3.0 out the door. I think there's interest in seeing an ARM XS, but not immediately, with the resources available to them. There's a volunteer in San Francisco, who's email is rihoward, who has played with a number of ARM boxes. He's already given me some really useful advice. I don't have the background to be very productive in getting the XS onto ARM, but to me it seems strategic. I am spending a few hours every day, trying to learn about cross compiling fc17 onto the ARM arch. But I'm no expert. Maybe we could join forces. As I go along, one of my goals it to document the steps at schoolserver.wordpress.com. George On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Kévin Raymond shai...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Mitchell Seaton msea...@ekindling.org wrote: I might sum up here from recent additions (replies) on this mailing list regarding current low-power server options (x86/32bit) for XS: 1) FitPC2i - Dual Ethernet, fanless, poss heat-issue (heat sink), PhoenixBIOS (no Wake-on-LAN), 12W draw (poss ~5W idle) http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc/fit-pc2i-specifications/ 2) SolidLogic - (VIA C7, 25W draw) current sys in use not available for purchase, EU options in links below http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/intel-atom/ http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/fanless/ deployment sites: Jamaica 3) MSi WindBox - '10 Atom D510, 4GB DDR2 - ~35W, drawback single Ethernet NIC (USB WiFi adapter) http://fr.msi.com/models/Wind%20Box%20DC500 deployment sites: Nepal, Haiti, Philippines 4) EPC-AT270 - Dual Ethernet (Wake on LAN), fanless, drawback '08 model Atom N270 (2GB DDR2) - http://www.avalue.com.tw/products/EPC-AT270.cfm deployment sites: PNG, Oceania? These solutions generally haven't changed in the last two years, in Q2, 2012 now these are the current stable options for low-power x86? If that's the reality, I assume we can make a decision around these options, taking site specific considerations into account, and plan for possible involvement (replacement) down the line (1-2+ years) with any future server development for ARM/plug/etc and what suitable working model is devised around it. Regards, Mitch Hi there, I am new in this list but involved in OLPC-France. Could someone point me to the XS ARM port status? I don't know yet what software the XS is composed of, but since I have the Alex's dreamplug here in Paris I could try to move things forward. (Won't probably make it before May but costs nothing to read about it). I also have a FitPC(2?), but the power supply is lost somewhere in my bedroom… Yeah, it is way too hot IMHO -- Kévin Raymond (shaiton) GPG-Key: A5BCB3A2 ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [fedora-arm] 12.1.0 devel build 8 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
On Apr 21, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: The I know you can be overwhelmed, and you can be underwhelmed, but can you ever just be whelmed? release. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE Some notable details in this release are: * Move back to jffs to XO-1 The http://wiki.laptop.org/go/12.1.0#XO-1 needs to be updated to reflect the move back to jffs for the XO-1 and the method for installing. OFW help on XO-1 may need to be changed to reflect this. * May be issues with WPA-Enterprise networks (F-17 final blocker): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802552 Fixed bugs: #11750Flickering in Browse/epiphany in os5 #11782Sometimes two icons are shown in the frame for the network #11721No frame key or Journal key on os5 #11710os4: hostname is none #11404support absolute input devices #11778libertas_sdio isn't allowed to communicate with card during suspend #11722No touchscreen input on XO-1.75 #1174612.1.0 XO-1; kernel support for SDcards #11714GNOME fails to start if the system time is off #11735oprofile, perf available for/in build #10075long uptime with constant wakeups fills /var/log and crashes machine Activity changes: -Browse-133 +Browse-135 -Chat-74 +Chat-75 -ImageViewer-19 +ImageViewer-20 -Maze-16 +Maze-18 -Memorize-39 +Memorize-41 -Paint-41 +Paint-42 -Read-98 +Read-99 -Speak-37 +Speak-38 -TurtleArt-137 +TurtleArt-138 -Words-14 +Words-15 Download from: http://build.laptop.org/12.1.0/os8/ ___ arm mailing list a...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC School Server] Comment: First Learnings about ARM
George, The Dreamplug may not be the best device to use at the moment as I learnt 2 days ago that the board design has changed very recently and it will be a while until the required code changes are made in the mainline kernel code ( and the mainline u-boot code). I have emailed the maintainer of the dreamplug code about the board changes. If you have one of the new boards a kernel built from mainline kernel source will not work. Others have tried and failed. Do not follow the trimslice directions as they are for a completely different SOC and board design and it stores uboot differently. What works for tegra based boards will not work for kirkwood based boards. I have on my to do list for the Fedora ARM project to create instructions for setting up uboot for kirkwood based systems. ( I have several different kirkwood systems in my ARM collection). I had been waiting for one of the olpc-sf members to return from overseas so I could inspect there dreamplug and run a few tests. Now the new dreamplug board design adds a new wrinkle to this. Base the offset off what was used in the Dreamplugs default environment as shipped to you. If it does not boot successfully it could be board incompatibility. I have not been able to find either a Marvell or GlobalScale repository with code for the new design. I assume it will be published at some point in the future. Well need to get back to working on ARM XS stuff. rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Apr 15, 2012, at 1:49 PM, George Hunt wrote: I need some pointers. My target machine is a Dreamplug. In the Fedora 17 arm distro, there are separate releases for ARMv5 and ARMv7. I have been playing with the ARMv5 download which includes kernels for tegra, imx, omap, and armv5tel (the latter is what I have been using). I created a FAT16 partition on an sd card, used uboot's mkimage to package the kernal for uboot to load. I can execute the uboot command: usb start; fatload usb 1 0x640 /boot/uImage But when I load the uImage to memory at 0x640, and bootm 0x640 (how do I know that that's the correct load address -- I copied the trimslice directions), I get no response. When I do the same with a kernel supplied by compulab for the dreamplug, it seems to function properly, ie. it boots to the point where it is looking for the rootfs (it gets further in the boot process). Is there any documentation on how to proceed in FC17 with the supplied kernels? Maybe I should just cross compile to get to a uImage? George On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 2:28 AM, comment-re...@wordpress.com comment-re...@wordpress.com wrote: New comment on your post First Learnings about ARM Author : kevix (IP: 98.113.63.95 , pool-98-113-63-95.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) E-mail : kevin.m...@verizon.net URL: http://kevix.myopenid.com Whois : http://whois.arin.net/rest/ip/98.113.63.95 Comment: George, if you are interested, I chat with OLPC folks on a daily basis on a private XS. Some of the folks are familiar with ARM. Let me know if you want the server info. You can see all comments on this post here: https://schoolserver.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/first-learnings-about-arm/#comments Permalink: https://schoolserver.wordpress.com/2012/04/14/first-learnings-about-arm/#comment-39 Trash it: http://schoolserver.wordpress.com/wp-admin/comment.php?action=trashc=39 Spam it: http://schoolserver.wordpress.com/wp-admin/comment.php?action=spamc=39 You can reply to this comment via email as well, just click the reply button in your email client. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS on ARM update.
Note that currently Puppet relies on some hard coded intel specific code. Oh really? I'm assuming it'd be in the facter code, using lspci and dmidecode to get the facts about hardware I just checked ARM Koji and it looks like puppet is building okay on ARM and passing the tests on ARM. I must be remembering some problem it had during the fedora 15 moji phase, but then a number of things had problems then. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Looking for new low power server hardware candidate
On Apr 10, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:03 AM, George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com wrote: I left my fitpc2 and msi servers in the Philippines, hoping they would be pressed into service in a classroom situation. So now I'm in the market for another toy. If you have time towork with us through some hitches, I'd recommend an ARM server. At this stage I'd say one of the Marvell/Globalscale Plug servers (dreamplug for example), or a trimslice. Either option will need a combination of the OS on internal SD/eMMC and the storage on an ext HDD (via USB probably). The Kirkwood based systems such plug computers can boot both the kernel and OS from a hard drive. I have been talking with one of he Fedora ARM team about this and am going to send them an email about what is involved and some other things about the kirkwood based devices. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] XS on ARM update.
Martin, I have been meaning to email you an update about XS on ARM for a while. I had to take a hiatus from what I was doing with it, but started back on it a while back. I had been experimenting with getting XS components running on ARM. That was with Fedora 13 for ARM. With Fedora 13 for ARM ejabberd behaved nicely. I was in the process of moving to Fedora 15 but then Fedora 15 stayed in perpetual alpha and I wanted to be on a release that was well supported. Then Fedora 17 for ARM koji is building much faster than expected so I am in the process of moving over to Fedora 17. Note that currently Puppet relies on some hard coded intel specific code. I would like to chat with you some time about this as I want to discuss what is essential for the XS and which is the correct git branches etc to pull from for some olpc specific bits. . Robert Howard ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: 12.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
Tried this build with an XO-1 and it boots OK. It can connect to my wireless router. Frame key does not invoke the Sugar Frame. It try to use Browse to open a page, for example www.google.com, opens but then crashes straight away. Note that I ran software update form the Control Panel and it claim to update Browse from 133 to 134 but still showed 133 in the list view Running ping in the Terminal activity returns: ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted SDHC card in the XO-1's slot is not auto-mounted. USB drive is not auto-mounted. I have not tried any other activities or gnome. rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Mar 24, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: The We are the Knights who say... NI. release. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE The release is our first combined 12.1.0 / Fedora 17 release, such a small release but represents so much time by so many people in both OLPC and Fedora in the ARM side of things to get a hardfp ARM release. This is post alpha F-17 so the major churn for Fedora development is now closed. Also note this release has the usr move too. The major features destined for Fedora 17 can be found here [1]. This is the first release using the new file naming scheme, details can be found here [2], it will allow an easier means of identifying builds, in particular makes it easy to differ a x86/arm build :) Some of the notable details of this release are: - First 12.1.0 combined release for all devices :-) - Fedora 17 devel release [1] - ARM hardfp release for the XO 1.75 (note old F-14 armv5tel binaries won't run) - Latest Sugar 0.95.x devel releases - gnome 3.4 RC - gtk3 3.3.20 with multitouch! - xorg-x11-server 1.12 with XInput 2.2 (Mutlitouch). - plymouth pretty and fast boot - 3.3 based kernel for x86 XOs - 3.0 based kernel for ARM XOs - The latest firmwares - only 4Gb images, for 8Gb expand the FS, we need to review dependencies for 2Gb - a lot of various improvements Download from: http://build.laptop.org/12.1.0/os5/ [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/FeatureList [2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process#Version_numbering ___ olpc mailing list o...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/olpc ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] initial notes on 0.7
On Feb 14, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Problem: XS seems to cause XOv1 computers to repeatedly restart X (brief text messages say something about dcon freeze?) Happening to both XO-1 and XO-1.5 running build 883. XO 1.5 HS with build 852 was unaffected. I've been running 6 XOs with this build for ~8 hours now, and haven't seen this problem. Would be interested in logs if you can reproduce. Thanks, Daniel I noticed that with my XO-1 that it would come back to sugar after a short time. We registered the XOs with the XS. Kept Browse open and tried to look at some web sites. A couple of us tried to use chat. That is the basic scenario of what we tried to do with the XOs. I'll have to ask the other people involved in the test if we can together and try this test again soon. Robert H. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] initial notes on 0.7
On Feb 11, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: We managed to install XS 0.7 using the CentOS 6.2(minimal) + EPEL + OLPC XS approach. The machine is SolidLogic box (same as the one used in OLPCorps). The installation went well, with minor glitches (notes will be on the wiki). One pattern we've seen is that on XO 1.5 build 883, it keeps restarting X (gives some dcon freeze message) periodically. On a XO 1.5 build 852, it runs ok. Restarting problem was on three different XO 1.5s. Actually 2 of the XOs were XO-1s running build 883 Robert H. cheers, Sameer -- Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Professor, Information Systems San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://commons.sfsu.edu/ http://olpcsf.org/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS rebase review
On Feb 8, 2012, at 3:35 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:23 AM, rihowa...@gmail.com rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: Which releases of erlang and ejabbered are you using? I unfortunately don't have the version number handy, but this should help: this coming XS release only ships a configuration and init scripts for ejabberd -- it's based on RHEL6.2/CentOS6.2, using the ejabberd versions included in the OS. I took a look at the CentOS6.2 source repository at http://vault.centos.org/6.2/ and could not find Erlang or ejabberd there. Current ejabberd does not need any changes -- only configuration -- to do what we need :-) cheers, m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS rebase review
On Feb 7, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi Martin, Ready for the next round of reviews for the XS work. I've now performed basic testing of all aspects of the system, so I feel this is ready for merging and wider testing. xs-config: pu branch recreated. Changes since yesterday: - 172.18.0.1 binding readded - xs-services-check checks that NM is off - nautilus in GNOME will try to automount disks. usbmount always wins in my testing, but I added a xs-services-check warning anyway. - /etc/sysconfig further cleaned up - /etc/xs-config.make killed - Moved to etckeeper ds-backup: pu branch ready for review idmgr: pu branch ready for review xs-activation: pu branch ready for review xs-activity-server: pu branch ready for review xs-rsync: pu branch ready for review xs-tools: pu branch ready for review Remaining bits from the core packages: Moodle - seemed to fail on first boot, worked on second. Using moodle-xs-1.9.5.xs2-1.xs11.noarch. Need to dig further. ejabberd - runs, accepts connection, but shows no presence info. Need to look into this. Which releases of erlang and ejabbered are you using? Robert H. Which moodle branch should I be working with? More tomorrow! Thanks, Daniel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: 11.3.1 b17 XO 1.75 rpmfusion
Carlos, rpmfusion is an i386 / x86_64 repository as clearly stated on its home page. rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:17 AM, Carlos Nazareno wrote: okay, this is the one: Error: cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: rpmfusion-free. Please verify its path and try again. Tried installing rpm fusion fresh off yum update as per instructions on the rpmfusion site. F14 Arm/OLPC 1.75 repos problem? Worked fine on XO-1. calling it a night. -Naz -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-3 competitor?
And here is another article about the Aakash tablet: http://thestatesman.net/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=386755catid=35 On Nov 17, 2011, at 7:46 AM, John Watlington wrote: Here was the other article about this tablet that I found interesting: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/news/hardware/Aakash-cost-below-35-govt-buying-at-49/articleshow/10301549.cms On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Low-cost Aakash tablet: http://venturebeat.com/2011/10/26/aakash-android-tablet-exclusive/?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitterutm_campaign=Feed:+Venturebeat+(VentureBeat) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] 11.3.0 release candidate 3 (build 882) released
On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: XO-1 users: we have identified a bug in the firmware releases shipped during 11.3.0 development and in earlier 11.3.0 release candidates. Affected versions are Q2E46 and Q2E47. You can check which version you are running in the Sugar 'Settings' dialog. Unfortunately, a bug in the firmware update code means that these firmware versions will not automatically upgrade to newer versions. We have fixed this in Q2E48 (included in 11.3.0 build 882 onwards), but existing users of Q2E46 and Q2E47 will need to update manually. Sorry about that. The procedure is outlined here: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11336#comment:8 Ask for help on these lists if needed. Users of 11.2.0 and previous (who will be running older firmware releases such as Q2E45) are not affected, and XO-1.5 and XO-1.75 users are similarly unaffected. If I download the file from http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q2e48/q2e48.rom and on an unlocked XO1 use the OFW command flash u:\q2e48.rom I get : Reading u:\q2e48.rom Image file is the wrong length ok By the way the file size is 1,048,576 bytes ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] 11.3.0 release candidate 3 (build 882) released
On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:32 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:21:20PM -0700, rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: If I download the file from http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q2e48/q2e48.rom and on an unlocked XO1 use the OFW command flash u:\q2e48.rom I get : Reading u:\q2e48.rom Image file is the wrong length ok I've checked, and I don't get that. By the way the file size is 1,048,576 bytes Thanks. That's the right size. Please check the md5sum of the file as read by OpenFirmware from your USB drive. This will help me to isolate the cause to either OpenFirmware, the XO-1, or your USB drive. To make this check, please create a text file md5sum.fth on the USB drive containing these lines: -- cut here -- : md5sumsafe-parse-word 2dup $read-file abort Read error 2dup $md5digest1 2swap free-mem push-hex bounds ?do i c@ # u# u# u# type loop pop-base . 2swap type type ; md5sum u:\q2e48.rom -- cut here -- Then insert the USB drive, get to the ok prompt, and type fl u:\md5sum.fth Then tell me what is displayed. 155a68922bc7e3fea323d400eaf3e99a u:\q2e48.rom ok Please also tell me what version of OpenFirmware is on the XO-1 at the moment. q2e46 is the OFW currently installed on this XO-1 -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] 11.3.0 release candidate 3 (build 882) released
On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:43 PM, rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 21, 2011, at 10:32 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:21:20PM -0700, rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: If I download the file from http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q2e48/q2e48.rom and on an unlocked XO1 use the OFW command flash u:\q2e48.rom I get : Reading u:\q2e48.rom Image file is the wrong length ok I've checked, and I don't get that. By the way the file size is 1,048,576 bytes Thanks. That's the right size. Please check the md5sum of the file as read by OpenFirmware from your USB drive. This will help me to isolate the cause to either OpenFirmware, the XO-1, or your USB drive. To make this check, please create a text file md5sum.fth on the USB drive containing these lines: -- cut here -- : md5sumsafe-parse-word 2dup $read-file abort Read error 2dup $md5digest1 2swap free-mem push-hex bounds ?do i c@ # u# u# u# type loop pop-base . 2swap type type ; md5sum u:\q2e48.rom -- cut here -- Then insert the USB drive, get to the ok prompt, and type fl u:\md5sum.fth Then tell me what is displayed. 155a68922bc7e3fea323d400eaf3e99a u:\q2e48.rom ok Please also tell me what version of OpenFirmware is on the XO-1 at the moment. q2e46 is the OFW currently installed on this XO-1 -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ So I tried flash u:\q2e48.rom again after running the md5sum.fth and this time the OFW flash worked ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Potential volunteer offering technical writing
I think what was used to generate the help was the FLOSS Manuals Remix feature, http://en.flossmanuals.net/index.php?plugin=remix . The workflow would be to identify the source of the existing help text starting with the Sugar and XO books. Edit the source material then use the remix feature. I would suggest saving the original books to preserve those editions for people still using older versions of the software. rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Oct 6, 2011 6:28 PM, Cherry Withers cwith...@ekindling.org wrote: Could you please shed a light on which manuals in FlossManuals make up the Help Activity? Some of us who will be jumping in to refresh it don't know much about the history. To be honest, I don't really know. Here's what I know: - open the help activity - look at the left-panel navigation TOC - open the Sugar manual -- you'll see lots of topics aren't there! So the topics that aren't there are in general from manuals about a specific activity. There is also a flossmanual about the XO itself -- I think some chapters from there have been included. On flossmanuals, there is an option to make a book or something like that. When you do that, it lets you pick and order chapters from many manuals. Perhaps that's what's been done -- perhaps the mix was prepared on the flossmanuals website. It is trivial to see if you look at both the Help activity and the stuff on flossmanuals. cheers, m ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Technical session suggestions for OLPC SF summit
Daniel, We had a brain storming session at the last OLPC-SF Community Summit 2011 planning meeting ( http://olpcsf.org/summit ) and came up with http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_SanFranciscoBayArea/OLPCSF_Community_Summit_2011#Suggested_Topics . Feel free to add to that list. The list is not final. We will be setting up the schedule in the next few weeks, so now is the time for suggestions. Bernie was in the area and came to the meeting and indicated he may speak at the Summit. Maybe you could coordinate topics with him? rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Sep 21, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, I'll be at the SF summit next month and I'd be interested in running a technical session or two. I'm looking for suggestions - what would people like to learn more about? I am an OLPC XO software developer and have experience at pretty much all levels, from firmware to kernel to distro to Sugar. At the moment I'm working on the future internals of Sugar (GTK3 port), various low level projects with the XO laptops (kernel, etc), and I'm seeing the 11.3.0 software release through to completion. Ideas? Thanks, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups olpc-social group. To post to this group, send email to olpc-soc...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to olpc-social+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/olpc-social?hl=en. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
ARM: new cross-distro@ list
I am forwarding this on behalf of Steve McIntyre steve.mcint...@linaro.org = Hi folks, Many GNU/Linux distributions are doing some ARM porting; this tends to result in work duplication, and there doesn't seem to be a general purpose forum to bring ARM porters together. We're inviting developers of GNU/Linux distributions with an interest in ARM to join a new cross-distro list, hosted at Linaro: http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-distro Any ARM Linux / Free Software discussion is welcome on the list, for instance porting software to build on ARM, toolchain problems, dealing with new ABIs, Thumb-2, NEON, kernel problems, announcement of new tools etc. Cheers, -- Steve McIntyresteve.mcint...@linaro.org http://www.linaro.org/ Linaro.org | Open source software for ARM SoCs ___ cross-distro mailing list cross-dis...@lists.linaro.org http://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-distro ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Build 871
On Jul 3, 2011, at 5:24 AM, Kevin Gordon wrote: Will do the serial log dumps tomorrow. I still cant connect to the candidates on download.laptop.org. I've tried on many machines from many locations. I can navigate and download from build.laptop.org no problem. Any chance at getting the rc's to remain posted over there at 'build' if the problem is happening for more than just me? Will continue to try download.laptop.org again tomorrow too. If not, will keep using 870 for now. Works fine from here. I have tried several times over the past 24 hours and the connection worked ok each time. Silly question: On a scale of 1 to 10, if all of our XO's in deployment are security disabled, we never do an online update, and all boot fine on os23, what is the opinion on using os23 to install, and then updating just the changed modules from there to those in the RC to keep the ubifs snappy behaviour? 1 would be horrendously stupid, 10 would be harmless and smart if you get all the modules in sync . My fear is the answer is going to be 5. might work, buyer beware, and I have to use my own brain to make a decision :-) Cheers, KG On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 1 July 2011 18:35, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Cant seem to connect to the download directories. Main one yes, the subdirectories with the XO1 and XO1-5 stuff, nope. Strange. Perhaps just a network issue - try again tomorrow. 2) Meanwhile, I've hooked the serial adapter up onto an XO with a fresh 870, and tried to boot with the USB2VGA adapter plugged in. Watched the messages stream by, nothing seemed amiss. Main screen still sticks at the one dot, no life out the adapter. However, hitting enter on the console session attached to the serial adapter does bring up a bash prompt, so it would appeaqr the system isn't actually 'hung' . So far all I've entered is 'reboot'. That works :-) Do you want me to try those same mod commands you had me previously try at the terminal prompt? Thats interesting. Enable logging on your serial console. Let it boot and hang, then press enter to get a bash prompt. Wait 5 minutes - the kernel may detect a hung task and spit out a load of diagnosis. If this happens, end the session and send me the log. If everything stays quiet after 5 minutes, run: echo t /proc/sysrq-trigger This will output a lot. Then send me the log. Thanks Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS-0.7 plans -- your thoughts please...
Martin, I was about to email you regarding what is the latest XS version as I am about to get back to attempting to port the XS to ARM so your email is timely to me. I had put that on hold for quite a while as it turned out Fedora ARM 11/12 lacked a number of items required by the XS. The Fedora 13 ARM port is intended to be a complete a port as possible and should have the bits required as a base for the XS. After the Fedora 13 ARM port is released it is my understanding that the Fedora 14 ARM port will be started. I hope you keep the Fedora RPMs as RHEL6/CentOS6 do not support ARM. I have been experimenting with ARM devices as servers with low power consumption and I want to prove the viability of using them as an XS. The systems I have are based on the Marvell Kirkwood, (not quite as fancy as the Armada 610). If successful this would be an asset that uses little electricity and would help with deployments in locations where electricity and server room cooling is expensive. In my review of the make files for XS-0.6 I have noticed that the architecture is hardcoded in a number of places. It would be nice if these were parameterized. The other area that seems a bit strange is how flat the git is for the XS components. They all seem to be at the top level. It would be nice if they hung off a top level XS project directory with a master make file that passed arch type, etc., to the component make files. This would make it simpler to clone all the bits. If you want to read more about the Fedora ARM project here are several links:- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/status In closing I would like to say, I do not think most administrators would care about RHEL6 or CentOS. In fact they may prefer the modern up to date Fedora 14 features. Thanks rihowa...@gmail.com On Jan 18, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: Ay ay ay! This last 12 months have been frantic, as I've ended up biting off a ton more than common sense would recommend to chew. And then chewing, slowly, awkwardly. Good things have come out of the hard work of this year, but the XS has been delayed. One good piece of news is that I've helped deploy more XSs in the field, both in person and through this list. So I think we have good feedback on what to streamline and make easier. And I have a window of time to hack on it. So... the plan is roughly the same as it was in http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/server-devel/2009-October/004139.html - except that I'll start drafting the build on top of F14. My actual plan is to have the packages for RHEL6 / CentOS6, which will give us a more stable platform. With less churn, I get to spend more of my limited time on interesting work :-) So -- going back on the traffic we've see in the last 24 months, what would you highlight? What have people asked for (that wasn't easy/trivial/possible)? What problems have we heard that were hard to diagnose...? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: os351 on XO-1 - Browse memory pressure
I just booted up my XO-1 running Dextrose os4dx2 in Sugar mode. I revealed the frame and waited until the System Resources gauge had a happy face ;) I started Browse. While starting the System Resources gauge pegged at 100% CPU and Memory in use 38% Once Browse was fully launched the gauge indicated 8% CPU use and Memory n use 40%. ( Steve - Cute icons in the gauge by the way ). By the way while in gnome mode with this Dextrose build I managed to run 'yum install gajim' from terminal session. It ran slowly but I had a couple of other applications running. I think the larger tmpfs helped yum run. I had tried this previously with 10.1.2, but yum would crash even if run with no other applications running. rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Nov 2, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: While testing an olpc-utils rpm, I opened Browse on os351 . It immediately puts the machine on the unusable-under-memory-pressure situation. It can barely handle a google results page. Personally, I haven't played with 10.1.x on XO-1s much. Has Browse been usable in earlier F11-based releases? Is it usable on dextrose? m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: spectacular new XO-1.5 disassembly guides
Holt, Nice set of photographs and narrative. It might be useful to mention at the top of the document the type and number of screws. At each step where a screw is removed or replaced that type and size of screw should be called out. Where it mentions cable disconnection and cable connection it should mention the type of latching mechanism used and how to manipulate it. Page numbers would be useful as would a document revision identifier rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Oct 8, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Holt wrote: Mafe Mago marife.m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Just sharing this pdf file of Dissecting an XO 1.5 created by Peter Domanski who just been introduced to XO. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/File:XO_Disassembly_%28Bottom%29.pdf [20p, 1.7MB] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/File:XO_Disasembly_%28Top%29.pdf [33p, 4.1MB] Thanks Peter! -- Cheers, @marife mm...@ekindling.org http://www.ekindling.org http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ekindling http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_NYC Plz write to Mafe if you have suggested revisions, for her friend Peter if he has time! ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Observations and question about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Software_Repositories
Martin, It would make more sense for me to base this effort on F11 XS code even if it is experimental. This will help find hardware dependencies in the code. Is this the location you are referring to for the F11 XS http://fedora.laptop.org/xs/testing/olpc/11/source/SOURCES/ ? If so I would rather clone from source control system so it is easier to give you any diffs back. I know in the earlier versions of XS software there were a number of places that the arch was hard coded to an X86 variants. Robert H. On Sep 27, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:58 AM, rihowa...@gmail.com rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: I am back to working on getting the XS working on one of my ARM systems with a more recent Fedora version. Hi Robert - that's excellent news! Ask on devel@lists.laptop.org -- AIUI, there is work afoot for F13 or F14 on ARM. I don't really know whether there are any usable builds... Thanks for the heads up, I've updated the wikipage -- fixewd up the git links (broken due to a change from gitweb to cgit) and added links to the F9 repos. If you look around the fedora.l.o server, you'll also find a F11 experimental repo that might be of use. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: [Server-devel] Observations and question about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Software_Repositories
On Sep 28, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:46 AM, rihowa...@gmail.com rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: It would make more sense for me to base this effort on F11 XS code even if it is experimental. This will help find hardware dependencies in the code. The only binary package IIRC is ejabberd-xs. And given that it's compiled against Erlang, it may well be portable bytecode. Actually I remember there being an X86 blob in F9 XS bios-crypto tree There are also pyo files which should be portable across platform/cpu (but not across Python version). Is this the location you are referring to for the F11 XS http://fedora.laptop.org/xs/testing/olpc/11/source/SOURCES/ ? That'll have tarballs. You are looking for the git repos, which are all under http://dev.laptop.org/git/ The XS related projects I see in http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects all seem many months to years old. Are you referring to trees under http://dev.laptop.org/git/users? If so which are the correct ones for F11 XS? I know in the earlier versions of XS software there were a number of places that the arch was hard coded to an X86 variants. Help cleaning up bogus explicit arch welcome :-) The make files have X86 archs hard coded in them Well need to get going to the day job... m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
[Server-devel] Observations and question about http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Software_Repositories
Martin, I am back to working on getting the XS working on one of my ARM systems with a more recent Fedora version. I am planning on using Fedora 12 for ARM. (This is the latest Fedora ARM version I can find). I was looking at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Software_Repositories to see if there had been any updated information posted to it. I noticed that the links to the repositories are broken and the page has not been updated in a couple of years. I was wondering if you could update the page with the correct links and maybe put a few notes on what source projects are needed to successfully bring up an XS and what is still experimental. thanks in advance, Robert H. ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Fwd: [OLPC-SF] OLPC SF Community Summit 2010! Fri, Oct 22 - Sun, Oct 24
Begin forwarded message: From: OLPCSF Contact cont...@olpcsf.org Date: September 22, 2010 8:38:13 PM PDT To: OLPC SF olpc...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [OLPC-SF] OLPC SF Community Summit 2010! Fri, Oct 22 - Sun, Oct 24 What: OLPC SF Community Summit 2010 is a community event that brings together educators, technologists, anthropologists, enthusiasts, champions and volunteers. We share stories, exchange ideas, solve problems, foster community and build collaboration around the One Laptop per Child project and its mission worldwide. The event is a combination of panel discussions, Birds of a Feather sessions, speed-geeking and much more! The event is hosted by the OLPC San Francisco volunteer community. Website: http://olpcsf.org/CommunitySummit2010/ Where: SFSU Downtown Campus, 835 Market St, San Francisco, CA 94103 When: Fri, Oct 22 - Sun Oct 24 See the Schedule on the website People: See pictures, bios and a list of confirmed registrants - People on the website Registration: Regular Price is $35. See Registration on the website Donate/Promote: Request for travel scholarships images for promoting the event - Donate/Promote on the website Contact: Join our email list http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sf http://twitter.com/olpcsf http://identi.ca/olpcsf http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=68179607655 ___ OLPC-SF mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sf ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
[Server-devel] Fwd: [OLPC-SF] OLPC SF Community Summit 2010! Fri, Oct 22 - Sun, Oct 24
Begin forwarded message: From: OLPCSF Contact cont...@olpcsf.org Date: September 22, 2010 8:38:13 PM PDT To: OLPC SF olpc...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [OLPC-SF] OLPC SF Community Summit 2010! Fri, Oct 22 - Sun, Oct 24 What: OLPC SF Community Summit 2010 is a community event that brings together educators, technologists, anthropologists, enthusiasts, champions and volunteers. We share stories, exchange ideas, solve problems, foster community and build collaboration around the One Laptop per Child project and its mission worldwide. The event is a combination of panel discussions, Birds of a Feather sessions, speed-geeking and much more! The event is hosted by the OLPC San Francisco volunteer community. Website: http://olpcsf.org/CommunitySummit2010/ Where: SFSU Downtown Campus, 835 Market St, San Francisco, CA 94103 When: Fri, Oct 22 - Sun Oct 24 See the Schedule on the website People: See pictures, bios and a list of confirmed registrants - People on the website Registration: Regular Price is $35. See Registration on the website Donate/Promote: Request for travel scholarships images for promoting the event - Donate/Promote on the website Contact: Join our email list http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sf http://twitter.com/olpcsf http://identi.ca/olpcsf http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=68179607655 ___ OLPC-SF mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sf ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Flash,Gnash,AIR: which builds to test against?
So what is the status of OS15 build that was posted June 15th in Steve Parrish's directory? On Jun 6, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Paul Fox wrote: carlos wrote: Hi guys! There's a number of different builds up on the OLPC pages right now: * OLPC 802 (Sugar 0.84) * OLPC F11 - OS11 * Paraguay F11 + Sugar 0.88 * Sugar Labs F11 OS11-OS15 For the purposes of keeping the Flash Platform wikis updated, which are the snapshots I should use for long-term testing of Flash, Gnash AIR? Should I still test against 802 or should I just test against the Paraguay build? I have 2 XO-1s I can do testing on, with a third one is on loan to a Phlashers teammate who's also doing some testing. i think the paraguay build, which is based on F11, represents the future. while martin has an 802 point release in progress, i think it's pretty much done, and he's unlikely to take any more changes to it (but he'll correct me if i'm wrong, i'm sure). the released 802 might be interesting as a baseline, but not much more, i'd think. paul We're going to install Adobe Flash on 2 of the Machines and Gnash on the 3rd machine. Which OS builds should we install on the 3 machines given the above configurations? I'm thinking 802 + Adobe Flash, F11 Paraguay + Adobe Flash, F11 Paraguay + Gnash. Are these the optimal configuations we can test against for the purposes of reporting back results on the wikis given 3 XO-1 machines? We'll be using latest stable builds of Flash, Gnash AIR. Regards, -Naz -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com -- core team member phlashers: philippine flash actionscripters http://www.phlashers.com -- poverty is violence ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Flash,Gnash,AIR: which builds to test against?
Whoops, meant to say posted June 5th, not 15th ... On Jun 6, 2010, at 11:47 PM, rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: So what is the status of OS15 build that was posted June 15th in Steve Parrish's directory? On Jun 6, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Paul Fox wrote: carlos wrote: Hi guys! There's a number of different builds up on the OLPC pages right now: * OLPC 802 (Sugar 0.84) * OLPC F11 - OS11 * Paraguay F11 + Sugar 0.88 * Sugar Labs F11 OS11-OS15 For the purposes of keeping the Flash Platform wikis updated, which are the snapshots I should use for long-term testing of Flash, Gnash AIR? Should I still test against 802 or should I just test against the Paraguay build? I have 2 XO-1s I can do testing on, with a third one is on loan to a Phlashers teammate who's also doing some testing. i think the paraguay build, which is based on F11, represents the future. while martin has an 802 point release in progress, i think it's pretty much done, and he's unlikely to take any more changes to it (but he'll correct me if i'm wrong, i'm sure). the released 802 might be interesting as a baseline, but not much more, i'd think. paul We're going to install Adobe Flash on 2 of the Machines and Gnash on the 3rd machine. Which OS builds should we install on the 3 machines given the above configurations? I'm thinking 802 + Adobe Flash, F11 Paraguay + Adobe Flash, F11 Paraguay + Gnash. Are these the optimal configuations we can test against for the purposes of reporting back results on the wikis given 3 XO-1 machines? We'll be using latest stable builds of Flash, Gnash AIR. Regards, -Naz -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com -- core team member phlashers: philippine flash actionscripters http://www.phlashers.com -- poverty is violence ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] New release of F11 for the XO-1 is available for testing - OS13
Steve, I just noticed that the http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 page has not been updated with information about and pointing to the OS13 build. Is this intentional? By the way thank you for the builds. Robert H. rihowa...@gmail.com On Mar 27, 2010, at 5:53 AM, Steven M. Parrish wrote: OS13 is now available for testing. It is available for download at http://people.sugarlabs.org/~smparrish Installation instructions are here http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1#Installation_instructions I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to test these releases. We are getting close to an Final and Official release, and without your help would not have made it to this point. Steven -- = Steven M. Parrish - gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: Nickname: SMParrish Channels: #fedora-kde, #fedora-olpc, #fedora-edu, #sugar, #packagekit ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC/Marvell Press Release
You are correct. Android development is Java based. It is based on a subset of Java functionality with the android API built on top of that. If you want a QT based environment look at Meego http://meego.com/developers. On May 28, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Putting some kittens at risk, it would be useful to have some analysis of both the work involved and potential benefits to an Android port, a Qt port, etc. I am not suggesting we divert our current efforts, as we are quite lean, but a better understanding of these options would be useful in defining our future roadmaps. Isn't Android application development Java based? Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] XS on Mac Mini
I am still planning on completing the port of XS to ARM for the Sheevaplug / OpenRD Client. I recently placed an order for a Guruplug Server Plus to add to my collection of Kirkwood SOC based devices. The main delay I have had is waiting for an up to date kernel to become available for board implementations (mach_type) using the kirkwood SOC. This is now available but not in the mainline. The Sheevaplug has one USB, one SDHC, and one ethernet port. The Guruplug ServerPlus has esata, 2 USB ports, 2 ethernet ports, wifi, bluetooth etc. The OpenRd Client has sata / estata as well as 7 USB and SDHC and 2 ethernet ports. Wad, I have been running a USB hard drive for months connected to a sheevaplug with no problems. It is a matter of picking the correct drive and enclosure combination. I performed a code review of the XS source in preparation for porting. I have to dig out my notes and compose an email to Martin with some questions and observations. I hope to send the email to Martin this weekend. It is late and time for sleep rihowa...@gmail.com On Mar 2, 2010, at 5:40 PM, John Watlington wrote: It would be interesting to hear what the remaining hurdles are. The Kirkwood ARM processor in the guruplug should be well supported by the current Fedora release --- this may be mostly a matter of moving to an F12 base. My main concern with the guruplug would be the external USB disks (overheating or disappearing). The same hardware should be available in a NAS (networked attached storage unit), wrapped around a hard drive in an enclosure --- the Marvell ARM is a popular choice. We have good relations with Marvell, and have been encouraging them to get support for their ARM processors upstream for several years now. wad On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: I was talking to Timothy Falconer who is planning deployments in Haiti and Patrick Giagnocavo founder of Zill.net our sysadmin and hosting company about this. Patrick suggests: http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/c-4- guruplugs.aspx the specs on the Plus version that is $129 2x Gigabit ethernet plus Wifi But I don't think any one has tried it yet. These are ARM based, right? Robert Howard @OLPCSF (on the list) has been tackling this a bit, but there are hurdles with running XS on ARM... Sameer On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:19 AM, David Leeming da...@leeming-consulting.com wrote: Sorry if this has been asked before. The Mac Mini was tested by someone here with a watt meter and ran between 16 and 30 watts max. Very useful for solar powered locations. Agreed with Peter -- it'll just work, but other boxes may be cheaper, and most importantly, may be better suited to hot humid environments. Whatever you use, let us know how it goes! m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: B R E A K T H R O U G H -- F11-on-XO1 has working video player
Mikus, In http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2010-January/027206.html I reported this but nobody seemed interested. Also in that email I reported that Record in X11 for X0 still does not record video or sound correctly. There is also problems with turning the radio on and off in sugar control panel. As Steve Parrish has said he needs help as he has little time in the day to work on X11 for XO1. /Robert H. On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:25 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: Ever since mid-December 2008, none of the newer XO-1 builds (beyond 8.2.x) were able to properly show any moving pictures for me. I ended up substituting another video driver in place of xv. That gave me a smaller picture (sometimes showing only snapshots rather than a movie). Having applied the ticket #9590 fix (adding 'Virtual 1200 900' to the Screen section of xorg.conf), I changed my os11 systems back to using the xv video driver. I tested under identical conditions both with and without the #9590 fix. That single change made the difference -- now on my XO_1 systems, moving pictures work properly in F11-on-XO1 builds. Prior to the application of the #9590 fix I could not honestly recommend any builds beyond 8.2.x to an XO-1 owner. Now I can. mikus p.s. My current Mplayer command line: mplayer -framedrop -vo xv -vfm ffmpeg -lavdopts skipframe=nonref:skiploopfilter=nonkey:fast=1 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC hardware: what if there was an SDR modem / chipset?
Luke, Looks like you have the incorrect link for the Openbts.org. The correct link is now http://openbts.sourceforge.net/ /Robert H. rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Jan 25, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: dear olpc devel people, i've been doing some research and found a couple of companies with SDR R.F. front-end ICs. one is 40nm and is so tiny that it will only cost about $2, mass-produced. also thanks to being in 40nm, the speed of the (SoC / embedded) ARM9 core is so fast that it's perfectly capable of handling multiple protocols. as you're no doubt aware, Software-Defined Radio has been full of promise for quite some time as The low-cost transceiver option, but it's only recently that the speed of embedded ICs has gone up enough and the geometry small enough to bring the cost down into the affordable range. key to making SDR work is of course having the software :) but, i've found a company who already have GSM through EDGE; there's http://openbts.org and also of course there's the gnu-radio project which has produced part of 802.11, amongst other things. ( but, remember: the nice thing about the 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands is that you don't _actually_ need to do 802.11, you can in fact just use the entire set of bands to do absolutely anything you want. and, with SDR, you _could_ do anything you want). the neat thing about SDR is that the _same_ solution replaces: * a WIFI chipset ($10) * a GSM chipset ($12 lowest i've found in 100k+ volumes) * or a 3G chipset ($30 lowest i've heard about in mass-volume) * a GPS chipset ($6 and that's again an SDR solution, you need a DSP to translate; $12 for dedicated chipset) * a WIMAX chipset (haven't even looked this up, but estimate $20) * a DVB TV chipset (approx $5 and again that's an SDR solution) * an FM Radio chipset (don't know its cost, don't honestly care!) i repeat. all those can be replaced with _one_ i repeat _one_ single solution, costing roughly... $12, if that. issues which need to be resolved: * paying for a minimum of 8 40nm 10in wafers (appx 5000 ICs per wafer) @ $0.50 ea, running the test vectors @ $0.75 ea, packaging @ $0.50 ea it works out roughly at $2.00 times 40,000. * creating the PCB with RF MEMS filters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF_MEMS) and other assorted components, coax connectors for antenna, the remaining components are going to be somewhere around $10. * license compliance and Certification in the countries in which the final modem is deployed (remember that if frequencies other than 2.4ghz or 5ghz @ greater than 100mW are used or 400mW in Hong Kong then licenses are NOT required) even with these issues to be costed out and resolved, i wanted to ask: * is the incredible low-cost and flexibility of SDR worth pursuing? * is the current Marvell 88688 proprietary firmware 802.11 blob _that_ acceptable / accepted? * is the possibility of being able to run an XO up a pole (or placed at the top of any tall building) and have it _be_ the GSM or WIMAX base station for an entire town or village and the surrounding countryside for miles around the kind of thing that is attractive to, and useful to the aims of the OLPC project, or not? also - one thing that also would help to have an answer to : if answers above turn out to be resounding yes, what's next? who makes the decision? l. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 - Build11
Sameer, The fix is not in build 11. I am resending the contents of the email minus the observation about midori, (as mention of midori seems to make the boys want to play with the bike shed instead of concentrating on the important tasks). ;) Some quick observations on F11 for the XO-1 - Build11. I have applied the Virtual 1200 900 fix from http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9590 and the screen rotate button now works in both Sugar an Gnome. Sugar Desktop mode: I found with this build if I turn off the Radio from the control panel I can not get it to turn back on. Also the wording is confusing. It is unclear whether have the check box checked or unchecked turns off the radio. The Record activity did not open correctly. It would exit immediately, until I applied the Virtual 1200 900 fix to Xorg.conf With the Virtual 1200 900 fix applied Record will now open and I can take a photo and record a video. The video is very pixelated in Low mode though, and in High mode and Best mode Record video seems to only produce a still with some sound. Record's audio only mode does not seem to record sound. Gnome Desktop mode: I can turn the radio back on through Net Work Manager in Gnome. This is after the radio is turned off in sugar where I cannot then turn it back on. So the work around is to go into gnome and turn the radio back on. I have not tried any Gnome applications that use a camera to see if it now works in Gnome rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Jan 17, 2010, at 4:21 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Steven M. Parrish smparr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 06 January 2010 01:43:54 John Gilmore wrote: Keyboard and mouse will not wakeup from sleep. Can be fixed by disabling power management in Sugar. Is there any reason for cutting release after release that don't work unless end users disable power management (sometimes twice!)? Surely if you can't fix the bugs, you could at least ship the release with power management disabled by default, so it works out of the box. Or, one step up from that, have it figure out which hardware it can reliably suspend on, and only have it enable suspend by default on that hardware. John Sorry it took a bit of time to respond but I've been on vacation and now am recovering from the flu. I released OS11 as a 1st build with the new buildsystem. There are still some issues which need to be addressed but I wanted to get a new build with updated kernel etc out for testing. I did some local testing with powe rmanagement disabled by default and the issue persisted. It only went away when I went into the control panel and manually enabled and then disabled power management. I truly wish I had the hours to devote to tracking down and fixing all these issues, however the $DAYJOB along with commute time keeps me away from home for 13 hours a day, and the $DAYJOB is not in the industry, where I could work on this on the side, but it does pay the bills. It is my hope to get the remaining issues addressed in short order so a final release can be made. We do have a time constraint since F11 the base of our releases will go End of Life in June. I appreciate all the testing you and others are doing and would welcome any assistance in tracking down and exterminating these final few issues. Steven -- = Steven M. Parrish - gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: Nickname: SMParrish Channels: #fedora-kde, #fedora-olpc, #fedora-edu, #sugar, #packagekit ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel At OLPC-SF, we saw Robert Howard's XO with the F11 build (my guess is the previous build) and some patches he mentioned that get the camera working and the rotate button function as it is supposed to. Are those changes in this build? Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor, Information Systems Director, Center for Business Solutions San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://cbs.sfsu.edu/ http://is.sfsu.edu/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] New release of F11 for the XO-1 - Build11
Some quick observations on F11 for the XO-1 - Build11. I have applied the Virtual 1200 900 fix from http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/9590 and the screen rotate button now works in both Sugar an Gnome. Sugar Desktop mode: I found with this build if I turn off the Radio from the control panel I can not get it to turn back on. Also the wording is confusing. It is unclear whether have the check box checked or unchecked turns off the radio. Record activity did not open correctly until I applied the virtual 1200 900 fix. It would exit immediately. With the Virtual 1200 900 fix applied Record will now open and I can take a photo and record a video. The video is very pixelated in Low mode though, and in High mode and Best mode Record video seems to only produce a still with some sound. Record's audio mode does not seem to record sound. Gnome Desktop mode: In previous builds Midori was used as the web browser in gnome now Firefox is being pulled in. Is this an intentional change or a side effect of changing the build system? Midori is general considered to use less resources than Firefox I can turn the radio back on through Net Work Manager in Gnome. rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Jan 5, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Steven M. Parrish wrote: This is the first release created with a new build system created by Daniel Drake. This new system can create builds for the XO-1 and XO-1.5. Known issues: Keyboard and mouse will not wakeup from sleep. Can be fixed by disabling power management in Sugar. Camera still does not work You can get it here http://dev.laptop.org/~smparrish/XO-1/builds/OS11 Issues can be filed @ http://dev.laptop.org/newticket Steven -- = Steven M. Parrish - gpg fingerprint: 4B6C 8357 059E B7ED 8095 0FD6 1F4B EDA0 A9A6 13C0 http://tuxbrewr.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: Nickname: SMParrish Channels: #fedora-kde, #fedora-olpc, #fedora-edu, #sugar, #packagekit ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Mentor request for PyDebug Activity
George, I am curious why start on a new activity? The Develop activity is well along and needs bug fixing and updating. A debugger would be a nice addition to it. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Develop http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/develop rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Oct 14, 2009, at 2:56 PM, George Hunt wrote: I am excited about developing a tool to help me develop other XO Activities. When I shared my ideas with Adam Holt, he suggested that I seek a mentor, or a few partners to help me clarify my ideas, and increase the usefulness of the end product. I am writing this to request such help. As a programmer, I'm fairly new to python. I started writing assembly language in 1975 for the terminal division of Hewlett-- Packard, which was soon to become the Personal Computer division. I only started python after I got my G1G1 in early 2008. I'm fairly averse to re-inventing the wheel. So I have been thinking of combining Activities that already run on the XO as my main strategy. At this point I have hacked together Write, Terminal, and Browse to all exist in a notebook under the Sugar toolbar. I can read and write Activity.xo files from the journal. So I've learned a lot from what is already written. Whatever the final form factor, the work I've done up to now will not be lost. At this point I'm debating whether to substitute gedit for the functionality of abiword. Gedit includes many of the feature a programmer is looking for. It is extensively internationalized. It has a python extension system that I think will make for easy integration into my application. I'm leaning towards the structure of a remote debugger, even though the client and server will mostly reside on the same machine. I'd like for the application to be insulated from errant client programs. I'm having a lot of fun, and feeling much more productive than I did a few months ago. I'd love to hear from a few people who are willing to help me perfect my ideas or have experience that could keep me from going down unfruitful paths. I've written a wiki page trying to pull together some of my ideas: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ Python_Debugger_activity_for_the_XO. There is also a little more bio info about me at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:GeorgeHuntd Thanks, George ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: new F11-for-XO1 images available for testing
Any thoughts on moving from jffs to ubifs ? Seems like ubifs has really improved in stability recently. I have been playing with some ARM based devices, using a recent kernel, and went from jffs to ubifs and the file access and boot performance improved enormously. Should hopefully see the same thing with the XO-1. rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Jul 26, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/7/24 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org: Tested os2 on XO-1 C2. 0. the boot animation seen with 802 was missing, Fixed for next build ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: new F11-for-XO1 images available for testing
Daniel that is interesting. My arm devices are booting directly on ubifs. One is running ubuntu ( SheevaPlug ) and the other Fed 8 ( OpenRD Client). I am going to build Fed 11 this weekend for the OpenRD Client and then try and get the XS bits ported to it (but that is for a separate thread with Martin L.) These devices use a special build of u-boot from Marvell to initiate the boot. Wish I knew how to create drivers for OFW so it could boot from UBIFS. On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:53 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: 2009/7/29 rihowa...@gmail.com rihowa...@gmail.com: Any thoughts on moving from jffs to ubifs ? Seems like ubifs has really improved in stability recently. I think we are ready to do this without too much hassle - but first let's wait until someone has actually made and published a build and offered some kind of loose commitment to doing this on a regular basis. At that point, the relevant links are: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/UBIFS_on_XO http://wiki.laptop.org/go/UBIFS_initial_experiments I think the only remaining question from the earlier work was about the readings given by df -- but upstream justified that behaviour, so that is no longer an outstanding issue. The work will then be to: - modify the build system to build partitioned images (we need jffs2 for /boot) -- I wonder if this will cause complications given the OLPC versioned filesystem layout... - modify livecd-iso-to-xo to make a ubifs filesystem for the root, and jffs2 for boot - teach dracut how to boot from UBI Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] logging performance
Sameer, Have you looked at RRDtool ? It is my understanding it can log at 1 second intervals. You can find it at http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/index.en.html along with tutorials. Some good example scripts using RRDtool can be found at http:// computingplugs.com/index.php/SheevaPlug_Real_time_Statistics#Scripts Scroll up on that page to see live graphical output from the scripts. rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Jul 15, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: Any suggestions on how to log data on RAM and CPU usage on the XS? I've looked at mem.py and top variants, but I want something that logs at x intervals to a file that I can pull into a spreadsheet. I have munin running on the xs, but it is not fine-grained enough to show variations, say every 10 seconds or so. Suggestions? -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
Re: Videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei
It would be nice if olpc.tv used ogg vorbis. Is there any way to get the videos of XO 1.5 in Taipei, etc. posted in a linux friendly format? XO users are excluded from viewing material about the XO. Where the FOSS are you!! In other words FOSS you..tube, use Ogg Vorbis!! : ) rihowa...@gmail.com linux - the best things in life are free On Jun 1, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Charbax wrote: Posted to http://olpc.tv Filming Pixel Qi and more in just a bit.. -- Charbax, Nicolas Charbonnier ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] ARM based XS ?
Martin, According to the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM there is Fedora 8 and Fedora 10 port for ARM. The OpenRD comes with Fedora 8. I mentioned this at the OLPC-SF meeting this morning and we are adding it to our projects list. I have 1 or 2 people at the meeting volunteer to help me with this. As a result of the positive responses I am going to order the ARM machine to experiment with. I am not sure when the hardware will actually ship once I place the order. A shipping delay will give me time to read some of the documentation on building Fedora for ARM. What size hard drive do you recommend for the XS? thanks /Robert H On May 16, 2009, at 2:29 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:09 AM, rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like the Marvell OpenRd Client is finally shipping. http:// www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-21-openrd-client.aspx I know Fedora now has a ARM branch. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ Architectures/ARMHow difficult would it to be to spin an XS build for ARM? Depending on your answer I may order a Marvell OpenRd Client to experiment with. Hmmm! Merits some research - Does Fedora run well on it? Support it formally? - Does Fedora 9 support it? If the answer to the questions above is yes, then there are 2 packages you'll want to recompile. Get the ARM machine, install a vanilla F9 on it, rebuild the srpms, and then we can build the installer :-) cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
OLPC repository problems causing yum to time out
I was helping an XO user to resolve a problem with yum failing on her system. After trying it on my XO I discovered that the OLPC repositories are not responding. Hence yum errors out with a timeout. I can fix this for he,r but that leaves the problem out there for all the hundreds of thousand other XOs. Is this just a temporary outage? If not could a dummy responder be set up to prevent the yum time out, as this is a difficult problem for naive users to deal with. [o...@xo-4b-cf-4c yum.repos.d]$ su -c 'yum list gajim' updates-newkey | 2.3 kB 00:00 primary.sqlite.bz2 | 4.1 MB 00:26 fedora | 2.4 kB 00:00 primary.sqlite.bz2 | 6.1 MB 00:41 http://mock.laptop.org/repos/koji.dist-olpc3-updates/repodata/ repomd.xml: [Errno 12] Timeout: urlopen error timed out Trying other mirror. Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: olpc_development. Please verify its path and try again [o...@xo-4b-cf-4c yum.repos.d]$ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: New release8.2.1 build 801
Release 8.2.1 build 801 fails to connect to my AP (linksys WRT54g L ) . AP Icon starts to pulse then stops. Never connects. Worked fine with build 800 and with build 800 updated with q2e32. On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2.1/build801 Changes in build 801 from build: 800 Size delta: 0.00M -bootfw q2e30-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2e33-1.olpc2.unsigned -olpc-update 2.17-1 +olpc-update 2.18-1 -kernel 2.6.25-20090129.1.olpc.a3e1b6fe884eb2d +kernel 2.6.25-20090223.1.olpc.69098d87d56945c --- Changes for bootfw q2e33-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2e30-1.olpc2.unsigned --- + Improved pagination of key override manufacturing data tags + Corrected a few misreported SMBIOS items + Reduced the early-startup verbosity on the serial port + Fixed the VESA BIOS support for the Windows VgaSave driver + Set the IO space enable bit in the displays virtual PCI command register so the Windows XO display driver will claim the legacy resources + Fix bug that caused very low batteries to incorrectly be marked as full. + Charge LED blinks a pattern of 4 when trickle charging + Changed duplicate error codes between NiMh and LiFePO4 to be unique. + Fix bug that caused very low batteries to incorrectly be marked as full. + Charge LED blinks a pattern of 4 when trickle charging + Changed duplicate error codes between NiMh and LiFePO4 to be unique. + OLPC keyjector support + OLPC trac 9229 - pretty boot was hiding the Windows logo screen. + ISO9660 filesystem reader - don't force filenames to upper case + OLPC trac 9227 - reset wlan when starting Windows + OLPC trac 9226 - virtualize AC97 PCI config base address so Windows XO Audio always works --- Changes for olpc-update 2.18-1 from 2.17-1 --- + Support multiple keys + Support multiple keys -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/release8.2.1-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Testing] Wireless test results
I find 767, with either q2e18 or q2e24, connecting to a WPA AP succeeds 100% of the time for me using a Linksys WRT54g L. With OFW q2e32 I have seen the network connection die. Seems like the stack is dead. I assume it is the marvell driver that is delivered with q2e32. My other XO running 767 with q2e18 maintains its connectivity. On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Ties Stuij wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 16 Feb 2009, at 05:32, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, Last I checked, it was either the firmware or the kernel changes that did it. I posted my findings to the mailing list in the past two weeks. I think your findings actually say it was either the firmware, kernel, or something else altogether. It'd be good to downgrade both at once, but still on candidate-800, so that we can check that at least *one* of the two is the problem. I should be asleep, but instead have been zigzagging through old http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/ staging builds testing WPA and the dialogue cancel dance for the last 4hrs: 790 working 4 working 5 working 6 working - 7 intermittent 11 intermittent 15 broken 800 broken Intermittent means it can occasionally associate with a WPA access point with no cancel dance, but usually I had to dance. Broken means I had to dance every time. One thing I noticed when testing the working 4, 5 and 6 that may help, is that if you do naughtily click an already connected WPA access point you'll get back to one round of the WPA cancel dance. If you make sure you first select 'disconnect' then click the AP again, you get correctly re-associated, no dance required. This suggests that clicking a connected AP should either do NOP, or should at least disconnect properly before trying to connect again. The sound you just heard was my head hitting the pillow :-) I reported this before with build 26 I believe, but it might be of use to point out again. Also on 800, the ability of the XO to connect to an AP have been greatly increased over 767. At the moment connecting to a WPA ap succeeds one in two times. On 767 it varied from 1 in 5 to 1 in 10 to 1 in can't be bothered to try and connect to the fr!@@n access point. I already supplied some logs, but if you'd like some more specific testing output of our setup, I'd be happy to supply it. Just tell what you want to know. /Ties ___ Testing mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC upgrades
Those software gauges tell you what ever 'version of the truth' the author wants to tell you and make you feel happy about your device. To perform power measurements reliably you need to instrument with a good quality physical voltmeter and ammeter. On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:31 AM, p...@laptop.org wrote: samuel wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Frank Ch. Eigler f...@redhat.com wrote: Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org writes: [...] It's also worth pointing out that the new low-power x86 processors, Atom being the poster child, are still stuck with power-hungry support chips - memory and display controllers. That might change soon, but for now it's still the case. [...] According to the ACPI battery gauges under Fedora 10, my Fujitsu U820 UMPC (Atom Z530, Poulsbo GMA500 MCH/graphics) takes around 6W *total* during light webby operations. What do those same gauges tell you about an XO under F10? unless things have changed, those same gauges won't exist on the XO -- we don't do acpi. paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XOs with no sound
I have seen this problem when the alsamixer settings have become messed up. Seems like there are one or 2 processes that occasionally write to the alsamixer config file. You can alter the settings by running the graphical program /usr/bin/ alsamixer from the terminal. There is also a command line program / usr/sbin/alsactl but being late at night I can't remember the syntax off hand. On Dec 30, 2008, at 12:12 AM, Philipp Kocher wrote: Hi The sound of 5 of our 100 XOs doesn't work anymore. The hardware test is okay (sound works), but all the sugar activities I tested (Scratch, TamTamMini, Speak, Gcompris) don't have sound. Rebooting the XO doesn't help. I checked the sugar log files and /var/log/messages, but couldn't find any sound related warnings or errors. We are running build 767, but I have seen the same problem with build 708 (but not that often). Reinstalling the OS solves the problem, but I would prefer an easier solution. I checked if such a bug is reported, but couldn't find a ticket (the sound resume problem of ticket 6201 is normally solved with a reboot). Since I don't know how to reproduce the problem, I would like to localize it before opening a ticket. What can I do to localize the problem (e.g. low level sound tests)? Is it possible that running out of battery while playing sound can have such an effect or could it be related to the resume problem of ticket 6201 (we had that problem very often with Scratch when the experimental power management was switched on )? Regards, Philipp Pepyride School Cambodia ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Jabber client activity
Mildred, Chat is a jabber client. Also other people have gajim and or pidgin running okay and no problem with saving configuration. /Robert H. On Dec 21, 2008, at 2:49 PM, Mildred Ki'Lya wrote: Hello everyone, I'm new here, and I came interested in the OLPC project because it's a wonderful computer, very well integrated, and I just had one via the European G1G1 project. And now, I thought I could contribute :) I wanted to know if there was any project of creating an activity that would be a jabber client. If so, could I help, where is it? And if not, perhaps I should start one. I just tried to run gajim in sugar, but it seems because the $HOME gets defined in a sandboxed environment that is erased each time, so I can't keep the configuration :/ On the other hand, I think that writing from scratch a jabber client would require much work, and time I don't really have. What do you think is appropriate? Thanks :) Mildred -- Mildred Ki'Lya ╭─ ｍｉｌｄｒｅｄ５９３＠ｏ ｎｌｉｎｅ．ｆｒ ── │ Jabber, GoogleTalk: mild...@jabber.fr │ Site: http://ki.lya.online.fr GPG ID: 9A7D 2E2B │ Fingerprint: 197C A7E6 645B 4299 6D37 684B 6F9D A8D6 9A7D 2E2B ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Jabber client activity
Mildred, In the Control Panel, select Network and then in the Mesh server field put the server name. /Robert H. On Dec 21, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Mildred Ki'Lya wrote: rihowa...@gmail.com wrote: Mildred, Chat is a jabber client. Also other people have gajim and or pidgin running okay and no problem with saving configuration. I guess, but I have absolutely no idea on how to configure where you put your jabber id and your password. So far, I thought it was only useful inside the mesh networking. By the way, I just created a Gajim activity inspiring myself from the Firefox activity, and it seems to work even if sugar integration could be pushed further. If anyone wants it I think I can put it somewhere. Mildred -- Mildred Ki'Lya ╭─ ｍｉｌｄｒｅｄ５９３＠ｏ ｎｌｉｎｅ．ｆｒ ── │ Jabber, GoogleTalk: mild...@jabber.fr │ Site: http://ki.lya.online.fr GPG ID: 9A7D 2E2B │ Fingerprint: 197C A7E6 645B 4299 6D37 684B 6F9D A8D6 9A7D 2E2B ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
