Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-16 Thread forster

And finally a 1.75 image

http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo1.75/1/


installed image ok
Browse works
downloaded and installed terminal and turtle blocks ok
default font a bit big

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-16 Thread forster

And finally a 1.75 image

http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo1.75/1/


installed image ok
Browse works
downloaded and installed terminal and turtle blocks ok
default font a bit big


A few things don't work, presumably just not included in the image:
Gnome
Write: import error abiword
Speak: import error gst



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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Robinson
 to  be honest I haven't even evaluated alternative distributions because I
 don't think we would have enough resources to do it anyway. We are making
 minor changes to olpc-os-builder, rewriting it for another distribution
 would be a lot of work.

Sorry to be late in replying to this thread but it's been a week of travel.

So I've had a number of people ping me about bringing support for the
XO-* devices into Fedora as a supported platform. I think it's
reasonably achievable but will likely need some assistance. I think
it's probably worth starting a separate thread but I'll put some quick
points here, if people generally think it's worthwhile I'll kick off a
more detailed thread.

The new Fedora structure for F-21 and moving forward is likely a
better candidate for longer term support for things like a XO-*
distro. There is planned a number of improvements from both a
technical and procedural PoV but it's still a little in flux.

From a tech PoV specifically discussing the various XO-* as a HW
platform here's some bullet points:
- Need to rebase to a newer kernel from a supportability PoV (wifi
stability etc)
- ARM wise there's people working to upstream the MMP2/3 platforms the
ARM XOs are based on.
- The etna_viv is likely the best driver for the ARM devices and in
the F-21 timeframe should support even gnome3/mesa

Not sure of the x86 kernel staus, I seem to remember dsd had kernel
status documented on the wiki.

OOB should be relatively easy to support moving forward, not sure
about olpc-update but I suspect that with decent OOB support most
deployments actually spin their own custom releases so I'm unconvinced
of it's importance.

  things are looking good so far, we already have all the models booting
  into
  sugar 0.101 with wif apparentlyi working. I would like to take a step
  back
  and understand a bit better where we want to go with this. Some random
  thoughts and questions.
 
  * To really understand how much work is left I think we need some good
  testing, especially on the hardware related bits. I expect there will be
  lots of small things to fix, but it would be good to understand as early
  as
  possible if there are roadblocks. I'm a bad tester and I've never used
  the
  XO much, so I'm often not sure what is a regression and what is not...
  thus
  helping with this would be particularly appreciated.
  * Which deployments are planning to ship 0.102 soon and hence are
  interested
  in this work? I know of AU. Maybe Uruguay?
  * Do we need to support all the XO models?
  * Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or fork
  it?
  I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the linux side of
  things, if not maybe better to turn this into a sugarlabs thing.
  * Are interested deployments using olpc-update? If I'm not mistake AU is
  not.
  * Do we care about maintaining the GNOME dual boot? I'm afraid we do,
  but
  I want to make sure.
  * As I mentioned in some other thread I'm interested in setting up
  automated
  builds from sugar master. I have some vague plan of what it would look
  like
  and wrote bits of it. The basic idea is that you would push changes to
  github and get images automatically built. I think this is good for
  upstream
  testing but the same infrastructure could be used by deployments. Are
  people
  interested in using this?

 Why is all this work being put into Fedora 20?  The maintenance window
 is limited and as of the next release they won't even support non-KMS
 drivers by default.  Wouldn't make sense to look into a distribution
 that provides and LTS release?  Resources already seem to be limited
 so having to chase after Fedora every 6 months to a year seems like a
 waste of resources.  The GTK3 and GNOME teams obviously have their
 eyes on a different class of hardware than what is being used by
 deployments.

Well F-20 will be supported for quite some time due to the extended
release cycle of F-21 so I suspect it'll be supported until the end of
2015 given that F-21 isn't due until October and most of the work will
translate directly into F-21 with little effort.

The thing to remember is that Sugar and the userspace in Fedora is in
good shape for Sugar which means that it's really only HW support and
specific use cases that needs to be dealt with. I'm not sure what the
state of Sugar is in other distros.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-16 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote:

  to  be honest I haven't even evaluated alternative distributions because
 I
  don't think we would have enough resources to do it anyway. We are making
  minor changes to olpc-os-builder, rewriting it for another distribution
  would be a lot of work.

 Sorry to be late in replying to this thread but it's been a week of travel.

 So I've had a number of people ping me about bringing support for the
 XO-* devices into Fedora as a supported platform. I think it's
 reasonably achievable but will likely need some assistance. I think
 it's probably worth starting a separate thread but I'll put some quick
 points here, if people generally think it's worthwhile I'll kick off a
 more detailed thread.



Certainly if there are people available to work in update the kernel to
support xo arm  i386,
would had a big impact in our future.


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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-15 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 04:39:59PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
 The non-configuration changes we have so far are here:
 
 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder/compare/v7.0...v8.0
 
 Can you review please? I can remove the dropbox change if I'm given access to
 rpmdropbox.laptop.org. Also, as I mentioned, I would need write access to the
 repo to push the configuration changes myself. I created an account on
 dev.laptop.org, user name is dnarvaez.

Thanks.  I've reviewed them briefly, they look fine.

We use versioned branches for releases, not development.  Development
is on master branch.  So please rebase the patches against master.

I'll work on getting an account setup for commit over ssh.  Please
send me an ssh public key by private reply.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-13 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Tested here, Sugar starts ok. Wifi ok.
Downloaded and tried a few activities.
Physics crashed and Browse crash on youtube,
but other work ok, and I don't have numbers, but all feels a little faster.

Gonzalo


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 xo4 image finally built (untested yet)

 http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo4/2/




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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-13 Thread Martin Abente
Sent a PR with some changes related to missing CP sections and gsettings
[1].

Refs:
1. https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder/pull/1


On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Tested here, Sugar starts ok. Wifi ok.
 Downloaded and tried a few activities.
 Physics crashed and Browse crash on youtube,
 but other work ok, and I don't have numbers, but all feels a little faster.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 xo4 image finally built (untested yet)

 http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo4/2/




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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-13 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12 May 2014 21:07, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 First, thanks for doing this work.


 Thanks for helping out.


   I would like to take a step back and understand a bit better where we
 want to go with this. Some random thoughts and questions.

 * To really understand how much work is left I think we need some good
 testing, especially on the hardware related bits. I expect there will be
 lots of small things to fix, but it would be good to understand as early as
 possible if there are roadblocks. I'm a bad tester and I've never used the
 XO much, so I'm often not sure what is a regression and what is not... thus
 helping with this would be particularly appreciated.


 This is a issue. If we have a Sugar with similar functionalities
  (settings and activities installed) we can request help from deployments
 and volunteers.


 Are you thinking to deployment specific settings and activities here? Or
 some kind of subset/reference that is good enough for all the interested
 deployments?


I think we should do a generic version. We can start with the activities
used by example in AU,
but add more based on deployment requests. In the xo-1 models space is a
issue,
but not so much in the others, and the benefit is have more testing.



  * Are interested deployments using olpc-update? If I'm not mistake AU is
 not.


 We are not using it. I am pretty sure Nicaragua use it.


 Is AU using yum?


Yes, we use a deamon calling yum with a particular configuration.
Recently I am testing dnf in F20, and I am impressed. If there are not
downsides,
could be nice use it.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-13 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 13 May 2014 16:13, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:




 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 12 May 2014 21:07, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 First, thanks for doing this work.


 Thanks for helping out.


   I would like to take a step back and understand a bit better where we
 want to go with this. Some random thoughts and questions.

 * To really understand how much work is left I think we need some good
 testing, especially on the hardware related bits. I expect there will be
 lots of small things to fix, but it would be good to understand as early as
 possible if there are roadblocks. I'm a bad tester and I've never used the
 XO much, so I'm often not sure what is a regression and what is not... thus
 helping with this would be particularly appreciated.


 This is a issue. If we have a Sugar with similar functionalities
  (settings and activities installed) we can request help from deployments
 and volunteers.


 Are you thinking to deployment specific settings and activities here? Or
 some kind of subset/reference that is good enough for all the interested
 deployments?



Sounds good. Can you link the .ini with AU activities?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-13 Thread Gonzalo Odiard


 Sounds good. Can you link the .ini with AU activities?




Sure

https://github.com/godiard/olpc-os-builder/blob/au1b/examples/olpc-os-13.2.0-xo4.ini#L99

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-13 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 13 May 2014 01:49, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

  * Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or
  fork it? I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the
  linux side of things, if not maybe better to turn this into a
  sugarlabs thing.

 Contribute, please.  In whatever way is best for you and your users;
 (a) patches by mail, (b) fork and pull requests, (c) an account on
 dev.laptop.org.


The non-configuration changes we have so far are here:

https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder/compare/v7.0...v8.0

Can you review please? I can remove the dropbox change if I'm given access
to rpmdropbox.laptop.org. Also, as I mentioned, I would need write access
to the repo to push the configuration changes myself. I created an account
on dev.laptop.org, user name is dnarvaez.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-13 Thread Daniel Narvaez
And finally a 1.75 image

http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo1.75/1/

Testing on this would be appreciated because I don't have a working 1.75
with me.

Now I'm going to try to get the olpc-os-builder changes upstream and setup
the infrastructure bits more solidly on docky.sugarlabs.org (a vm I setup
yesterday). Then I'll do builds with the fixes Martin sent.


On 13 May 2014 04:27, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading!


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 xo4 image finally built (untested yet)

 http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo4/2/





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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-13 Thread Walter Bender
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Tested here, Sugar starts ok. Wifi ok.
 Downloaded and tried a few activities.
 Physics crashed and Browse crash on youtube,


Can you please send me the log file from Physics?

thx


 but other work ok, and I don't have numbers, but all feels a little faster.

 Gonzalo


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 xo4 image finally built (untested yet)

 http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo4/2/




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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
The xo1 image boots into sugar (latest from git) and wifi works. I'm now
building xo4 images


On 12 May 2014 02:12, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages built
 from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not even
 boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they works.

 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

 The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin. The
 problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io, which
 doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually losetup the
 partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work eventually :)

 I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should be
 able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and some
 initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



 On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors
 very early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 The xo1 boots into sugar but there are no activities installed (I
 probably got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one would 
 be
 welcome, I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze.


 On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested
 much but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded.
 I'm building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can 
 get
 wifi working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in 
 the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick
 with me and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms
 for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for
 testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez
 wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have
 good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to
 something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking
 at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image
 for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to
 build for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to 
 rebuild
 the X driver but I think that will require some patching, let's 
 see if I
 can get it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 The xo1 image boots into sugar (latest from git) and wifi works. I'm now
 building xo4 images


nice.



 On 12 May 2014 02:12, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages built
 from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not even
 boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they works.

 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

 The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin. The
 problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io, which
 doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually losetup the
 partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work eventually :)

 I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should be
 able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and some
 initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



 On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors
 very early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
  wrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 The xo1 boots into sugar but there are no activities installed (I
 probably got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one 
 would be
 welcome, I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze.


 On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested
 much but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded.
 I'm building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can 
 get
 wifi working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building 
 in the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick
 with me and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms
 for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for
 testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez
 wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have
 good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to
 something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking
 at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image
 for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying
 to build for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I 
 need to
 rebuild the X driver but I think that will require some 
 patching, let's see
 if I can get it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
xo-1.5 image do not boot, and show a strange gey patterns in the screen.

Gonzalo


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 The xo1 image boots into sugar (latest from git) and wifi works. I'm now
 building xo4 images


 On 12 May 2014 02:12, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages built
 from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not even
 boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they works.

 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

 The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin. The
 problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io, which
 doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually losetup the
 partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work eventually :)

 I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should be
 able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and some
 initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



 On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors
 very early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
  wrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 The xo1 boots into sugar but there are no activities installed (I
 probably got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one 
 would be
 welcome, I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze.


 On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested
 much but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded.
 I'm building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can 
 get
 wifi working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building 
 in the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick
 with me and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms
 for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for
 testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez
 wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have
 good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to
 something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking
 at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image
 for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying
 to build for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I 
 need to
 rebuild the X driver but I think that will require some 
 patching, let's see
 if I can get it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
How far does it get? What are the last messages you see?

Mostly I wonder if it's the partitions issue that tch reported yesterday or
if we fail when running X.

On Monday, 12 May 2014, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 xo-1.5 image do not boot, and show a strange gey patterns in the screen.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 The xo1 image boots into sugar (latest from git) and wifi works. I'm now
 building xo4 images


 On 12 May 2014 02:12, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages built
 from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not even
 boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they works.

 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

 The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin. The
 problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io, which
 doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually losetup the
 partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work eventually :)

 I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should be
 able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and some
 initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



 On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors very
 early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/



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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I will attach a serial cable later and report.

Gonzalo


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 How far does it get? What are the last messages you see?

 Mostly I wonder if it's the partitions issue that tch reported yesterday
 or if we fail when running X.


 On Monday, 12 May 2014, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 xo-1.5 image do not boot, and show a strange gey patterns in the screen.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 The xo1 image boots into sugar (latest from git) and wifi works. I'm now
 building xo4 images


 On 12 May 2014 02:12, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages built
 from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not even
 boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they works.

 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

 The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin. The
 problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io, which
 doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually losetup the
 partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work eventually :)

 I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should be
 able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and some
 initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



 On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors very
 early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/



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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Martin Abente
Regarding XO 1.5 image, no more kernel panic, but as Gonzalo mentioned the
fading problem is still present.


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 I will attach a serial cable later and report.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 How far does it get? What are the last messages you see?

 Mostly I wonder if it's the partitions issue that tch reported yesterday
 or if we fail when running X.


 On Monday, 12 May 2014, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 xo-1.5 image do not boot, and show a strange gey patterns in the screen.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 The xo1 image boots into sugar (latest from git) and wifi works. I'm now
 building xo4 images


 On 12 May 2014 02:12, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages built
 from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not even
 boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they works.

 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

 The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin. The
 problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io, which
 doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually losetup the
 partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work eventually :)

 I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should be
 able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and some
 initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



 On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors
 very early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/



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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Ok, at least the partitions problem is fixed then. If Gonzalo can look at
the logs with a serial port that might tell what is going on. I susoect the
X driver but hard to say blindly :)


On 12 May 2014 14:34, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Regarding XO 1.5 image, no more kernel panic, but as Gonzalo mentioned the
 fading problem is still present.


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 I will attach a serial cable later and report.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 How far does it get? What are the last messages you see?

 Mostly I wonder if it's the partitions issue that tch reported yesterday
 or if we fail when running X.


 On Monday, 12 May 2014, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 xo-1.5 image do not boot, and show a strange gey patterns in the screen.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 The xo1 image boots into sugar (latest from git) and wifi works. I'm
 now building xo4 images


 On 12 May 2014 02:12, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages built
 from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not even
 boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they works.

 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

 The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin. The
 problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io,
 which doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually losetup
 the partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work
 eventually :)

 I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should
 be able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and some
 initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



 On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors
 very early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
  wrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/



 --
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 --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
log from xo-1.5

Looks like eth0 is not initialized and all stop there.
Probably you already know that, but xo-1 and xo-1.5 have a 8686 wireless
card, different to the 8787 in the xo-4

Gonzalo


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok, at least the partitions problem is fixed then. If Gonzalo can look at
 the logs with a serial port that might tell what is going on. I susoect the
 X driver but hard to say blindly :)


 On 12 May 2014 14:34, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Regarding XO 1.5 image, no more kernel panic, but as Gonzalo mentioned
 the fading problem is still present.


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 I will attach a serial cable later and report.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 How far does it get? What are the last messages you see?

 Mostly I wonder if it's the partitions issue that tch reported
 yesterday or if we fail when running X.


 On Monday, 12 May 2014, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 xo-1.5 image do not boot, and show a strange gey patterns in the
 screen.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 The xo1 image boots into sugar (latest from git) and wifi works. I'm
 now building xo4 images


 On 12 May 2014 02:12, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages
 built from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not
 even boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they
 works.

 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

 The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin. The
 problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io,
 which doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually losetup
 the partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work
 eventually :)

 I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should
 be able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and 
 some
 initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



 On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors
 very early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/



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 --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
I'm not quite convinced this is due to the not initialized eth0 (I'm not
sure what that is due too though). From the serial console are you able to
see the content of /var/log/Xorg.0.log (assuming there is one)?


On 12 May 2014 15:08, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 log from xo-1.5

 Looks like eth0 is not initialized and all stop there.
 Probably you already know that, but xo-1 and xo-1.5 have a 8686 wireless
 card, different to the 8787 in the xo-4

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ok, at least the partitions problem is fixed then. If Gonzalo can look at
 the logs with a serial port that might tell what is going on. I susoect the
 X driver but hard to say blindly :)


 On 12 May 2014 14:34, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Regarding XO 1.5 image, no more kernel panic, but as Gonzalo mentioned
 the fading problem is still present.


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 I will attach a serial cable later and report.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 How far does it get? What are the last messages you see?

 Mostly I wonder if it's the partitions issue that tch reported
 yesterday or if we fail when running X.


 On Monday, 12 May 2014, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 xo-1.5 image do not boot, and show a strange gey patterns in the
 screen.

 Gonzalo


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 The xo1 image boots into sugar (latest from git) and wifi works. I'm
 now building xo4 images


 On 12 May 2014 02:12, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages
 built from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not
 even boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they
 works.

 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

 The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin.
 The problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io,
 which doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually 
 losetup
 the partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work
 eventually :)

 I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should
 be able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and 
 some
 initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



 On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors
 very early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/



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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
bash-4.2# cat  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[32.666]
X.Org X Server 1.14.4
Release Date: 2013-10-31
[32.666] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[32.666] Build Operating System:  3.12.8-300.fc20.x86_64
[32.666] Current Operating System: Linux xo-a7-32-6d.localdomain
3.3.8_xo1.5-20140212.1212.olpc.e98f01a #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 12 12:22:19 EST
2014 i686
[32.666] Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0
fbcon=font:SUN12x22 no_console_suspend selinux=0
[32.666] Build Date: 28 February 2014  03:35:45AM
[32.666] Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.14.4-7.fc20
[32.666] Current version of pixman: 0.30.0
[32.666] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[32.666] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default
setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[32.666] (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon May 12
14:23:38 2014
[32.667] (==) Using config directory: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[32.667] (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[32.668] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[32.668] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[32.668] (**) |--Screen Default Screen Section (0)
[32.668] (**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
[32.668] (==) No device specified for screen Default Screen Section.
Using the first device section listed.
[32.668] (**) |   |--Device Configured Video Device
[32.668] (==) No monitor specified for screen Default Screen Section.
Using a default monitor configuration.
[32.668] (**) Option DontZap true
[32.669] (**) Option BlankTime 0
[32.669] (**) Option StandbyTime 0
[32.669] (**) Option SuspendTime 0
[32.669] (**) Option OffTime 0
[32.669] (==) Automatically adding devices
[32.669] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[32.669] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[32.669] (==) FontPath set to:
catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
built-ins
[32.669] (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
[32.669] (**) Extension DPMS is disabled
[32.669] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input
devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[32.669] (II) Loader magic: 0x826b6a0
[32.669] (II) Module ABI versions:
[32.669] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[32.669] X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
[32.669] X.Org XInput driver : 19.2
[32.669] X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
[32.672] (--) PCI:*(0:0:1:0) 1106:5122:152d:0833 rev 0, Mem @
0xd000/67108864, 0xf000/16777216, BIOS @ 0x/65536
[32.672] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[32.672] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[32.672] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[32.672] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension SELinux
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[32.673] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[32.673] (II) LoadModule: glx
[32.674] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[32.674] (II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[32.674] compiled for 1.14.4, module version = 1.0.0
[32.674] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 7.0
[32.674] (==) AIGLX enabled
[32.674] Loading extension GLX
[32.674] (II) LoadModule: chrome
[32.675] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/chrome_drv.so
[32.676] (II) Module chrome: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[32.676] compiled for 1.14.4, module version = 5.74.255
[32.676] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[32.676] (II) chrome: driver for VIA chipsets: P4M800PRO, CX700,
K8M890, P4M890,
P4M900, VX800, VX855, VX900, CN750
[32.676] (++) using VT number 1

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
I haven't really looked into this yet, but I wonder about this

[32.849] [drm] failed to load kernel module chrome
[32.849] (EE) [drm] drmOpen failed.

Can you also post dmesg? I suppose it might have info about why loading the
module failed.



On 12 May 2014 16:16, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 bash-4.2# cat  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 [32.666]
 X.Org X Server 1.14.4
 Release Date: 2013-10-31
 [32.666] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
 [32.666] Build Operating System:  3.12.8-300.fc20.x86_64
 [32.666] Current Operating System: Linux xo-a7-32-6d.localdomain
 3.3.8_xo1.5-20140212.1212.olpc.e98f01a #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 12 12:22:19 EST
 2014 i686
 [32.666] Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0
 fbcon=font:SUN12x22 no_console_suspend selinux=0
 [32.666] Build Date: 28 February 2014  03:35:45AM
 [32.666] Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.14.4-7.fc20
 [32.666] Current version of pixman: 0.30.0
 [32.666] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
  to make sure that you have the latest version.
 [32.666] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default
 setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 [32.666] (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon May 12
 14:23:38 2014
 [32.667] (==) Using config directory: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
 [32.667] (==) Using system config directory
 /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
 [32.668] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
 [32.668] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
 [32.668] (**) |--Screen Default Screen Section (0)
 [32.668] (**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
 [32.668] (==) No device specified for screen Default Screen Section.
 Using the first device section listed.
 [32.668] (**) |   |--Device Configured Video Device
 [32.668] (==) No monitor specified for screen Default Screen Section.
 Using a default monitor configuration.
 [32.668] (**) Option DontZap true
 [32.669] (**) Option BlankTime 0
 [32.669] (**) Option StandbyTime 0
 [32.669] (**) Option SuspendTime 0
 [32.669] (**) Option OffTime 0
 [32.669] (==) Automatically adding devices
 [32.669] (==) Automatically enabling devices
 [32.669] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
 [32.669] (==) FontPath set to:
 catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
 built-ins
 [32.669] (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
 [32.669] (**) Extension DPMS is disabled
 [32.669] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input
 devices.
 If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
 [32.669] (II) Loader magic: 0x826b6a0
 [32.669] (II) Module ABI versions:
 [32.669] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
 [32.669] X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
 [32.669] X.Org XInput driver : 19.2
 [32.669] X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
 [32.672] (--) PCI:*(0:0:1:0) 1106:5122:152d:0833 rev 0, Mem @
 0xd000/67108864, 0xf000/16777216, BIOS @ 0x/65536
 [32.672] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
 [32.672] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
 [32.672] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
 [32.672] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension SELinux
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
 [32.673] (II) LoadModule: glx
 [32.674] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 [32.674] (II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 [32.674] compiled for 1.14.4, module version = 1.0.0
 [32.674] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 7.0
 [32.674] (==) AIGLX enabled
 [32.674] Loading extension GLX
 [32.674] 

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Peter Robinson
I suspect the Xorg ABI has changed from F-18 - F-20 so I suspect
someone with access to the appropriate driver source will need to
rebuild the rpm for the new Xorg ABI.

Peter

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 bash-4.2# cat  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
 [32.666]
 X.Org X Server 1.14.4
 Release Date: 2013-10-31
 [32.666] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
 [32.666] Build Operating System:  3.12.8-300.fc20.x86_64
 [32.666] Current Operating System: Linux xo-a7-32-6d.localdomain
 3.3.8_xo1.5-20140212.1212.olpc.e98f01a #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 12 12:22:19 EST
 2014 i686
 [32.666] Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0
 fbcon=font:SUN12x22 no_console_suspend selinux=0
 [32.666] Build Date: 28 February 2014  03:35:45AM
 [32.666] Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.14.4-7.fc20
 [32.666] Current version of pixman: 0.30.0
 [32.666] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
 to make sure that you have the latest version.
 [32.666] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default
 setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 [32.666] (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon May 12 14:23:38
 2014
 [32.667] (==) Using config directory: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
 [32.667] (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
 [32.668] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
 [32.668] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
 [32.668] (**) |--Screen Default Screen Section (0)
 [32.668] (**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
 [32.668] (==) No device specified for screen Default Screen Section.
 Using the first device section listed.
 [32.668] (**) |   |--Device Configured Video Device
 [32.668] (==) No monitor specified for screen Default Screen Section.
 Using a default monitor configuration.
 [32.668] (**) Option DontZap true
 [32.669] (**) Option BlankTime 0
 [32.669] (**) Option StandbyTime 0
 [32.669] (**) Option SuspendTime 0
 [32.669] (**) Option OffTime 0
 [32.669] (==) Automatically adding devices
 [32.669] (==) Automatically enabling devices
 [32.669] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
 [32.669] (==) FontPath set to:
 catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
 built-ins
 [32.669] (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
 [32.669] (**) Extension DPMS is disabled
 [32.669] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input
 devices.
 If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
 [32.669] (II) Loader magic: 0x826b6a0
 [32.669] (II) Module ABI versions:
 [32.669] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
 [32.669] X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
 [32.669] X.Org XInput driver : 19.2
 [32.669] X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
 [32.672] (--) PCI:*(0:0:1:0) 1106:5122:152d:0833 rev 0, Mem @
 0xd000/67108864, 0xf000/16777216, BIOS @ 0x/65536
 [32.672] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
 [32.672] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
 [32.672] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
 [32.672] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension SELinux
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
 [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
 [32.673] (II) LoadModule: glx
 [32.674] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
 [32.674] (II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 [32.674] compiled for 1.14.4, module version = 1.0.0
 [32.674] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 7.0
 [32.674] (==) AIGLX enabled
 [32.674] Loading extension GLX
 [32.674] (II) LoadModule: chrome
 [32.675] (II) Loading 

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
I rebuilt the X driver and the build succeeded with no changes. I suppose
it might need modifications to really work...


On 12 May 2014 16:25, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suspect the Xorg ABI has changed from F-18 - F-20 so I suspect
 someone with access to the appropriate driver source will need to
 rebuild the rpm for the new Xorg ABI.

 Peter

 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:
  bash-4.2# cat  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
  [32.666]
  X.Org X Server 1.14.4
  Release Date: 2013-10-31
  [32.666] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
  [32.666] Build Operating System:  3.12.8-300.fc20.x86_64
  [32.666] Current Operating System: Linux xo-a7-32-6d.localdomain
  3.3.8_xo1.5-20140212.1212.olpc.e98f01a #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 12 12:22:19 EST
  2014 i686
  [32.666] Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty0
  fbcon=font:SUN12x22 no_console_suspend selinux=0
  [32.666] Build Date: 28 February 2014  03:35:45AM
  [32.666] Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.14.4-7.fc20
  [32.666] Current version of pixman: 0.30.0
  [32.666] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
  to make sure that you have the latest version.
  [32.666] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default
  setting,
  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
  [32.666] (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Mon May 12
 14:23:38
  2014
  [32.667] (==) Using config directory: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
  [32.667] (==) Using system config directory
 /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
  [32.668] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
  [32.668] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
  [32.668] (**) |--Screen Default Screen Section (0)
  [32.668] (**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
  [32.668] (==) No device specified for screen Default Screen
 Section.
  Using the first device section listed.
  [32.668] (**) |   |--Device Configured Video Device
  [32.668] (==) No monitor specified for screen Default Screen
 Section.
  Using a default monitor configuration.
  [32.668] (**) Option DontZap true
  [32.669] (**) Option BlankTime 0
  [32.669] (**) Option StandbyTime 0
  [32.669] (**) Option SuspendTime 0
  [32.669] (**) Option OffTime 0
  [32.669] (==) Automatically adding devices
  [32.669] (==) Automatically enabling devices
  [32.669] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
  [32.669] (==) FontPath set to:
  catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
  built-ins
  [32.669] (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
  [32.669] (**) Extension DPMS is disabled
  [32.669] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input
  devices.
  If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable
 AutoAddDevices.
  [32.669] (II) Loader magic: 0x826b6a0
  [32.669] (II) Module ABI versions:
  [32.669] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
  [32.669] X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
  [32.669] X.Org XInput driver : 19.2
  [32.669] X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
  [32.672] (--) PCI:*(0:0:1:0) 1106:5122:152d:0833 rev 0, Mem @
  0xd000/67108864, 0xf000/16777216, BIOS @ 0x/65536
  [32.672] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
  [32.672] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
  [32.672] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
  [32.672] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension SELinux
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
  [32.673] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
  [32.673] (II) LoadModule: glx
  [32.674] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
  [32.674] (II) Module glx: vendor=X.Org 

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hello,

things are looking good so far, we already have all the models booting into
sugar 0.101 with wif apparentlyi working. I would like to take a step back
and understand a bit better where we want to go with this. Some random
thoughts and questions.

* To really understand how much work is left I think we need some good
testing, especially on the hardware related bits. I expect there will be
lots of small things to fix, but it would be good to understand as early as
possible if there are roadblocks. I'm a bad tester and I've never used the
XO much, so I'm often not sure what is a regression and what is not... thus
helping with this would be particularly appreciated.
* Which deployments are planning to ship 0.102 soon and hence are
interested in this work? I know of AU. Maybe Uruguay?
* Do we need to support all the XO models?
* Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or fork it?
I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the linux side of
things, if not maybe better to turn this into a sugarlabs thing.
* Are interested deployments using olpc-update? If I'm not mistake AU is
not.
* Do we care about maintaining the GNOME dual boot? I'm afraid we do, but
I want to make sure.
* As I mentioned in some other thread I'm interested in setting up
automated  builds from sugar master. I have some vague plan of what it
would look like and wrote bits of it. The basic idea is that you would push
changes to github and get images automatically built. I think this is good
for upstream testing but the same infrastructure could be used by
deployments. Are people interested in using this?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 things are looking good so far, we already have all the models booting into
 sugar 0.101 with wif apparentlyi working. I would like to take a step back
 and understand a bit better where we want to go with this. Some random
 thoughts and questions.

 * To really understand how much work is left I think we need some good
 testing, especially on the hardware related bits. I expect there will be
 lots of small things to fix, but it would be good to understand as early as
 possible if there are roadblocks. I'm a bad tester and I've never used the
 XO much, so I'm often not sure what is a regression and what is not... thus
 helping with this would be particularly appreciated.
 * Which deployments are planning to ship 0.102 soon and hence are interested
 in this work? I know of AU. Maybe Uruguay?
 * Do we need to support all the XO models?
 * Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or fork it?
 I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the linux side of
 things, if not maybe better to turn this into a sugarlabs thing.
 * Are interested deployments using olpc-update? If I'm not mistake AU is
 not.
 * Do we care about maintaining the GNOME dual boot? I'm afraid we do, but
 I want to make sure.
 * As I mentioned in some other thread I'm interested in setting up automated
 builds from sugar master. I have some vague plan of what it would look like
 and wrote bits of it. The basic idea is that you would push changes to
 github and get images automatically built. I think this is good for upstream
 testing but the same infrastructure could be used by deployments. Are people
 interested in using this?

Why is all this work being put into Fedora 20?  The maintenance window
is limited and as of the next release they won't even support non-KMS
drivers by default.  Wouldn't make sense to look into a distribution
that provides and LTS release?  Resources already seem to be limited
so having to chase after Fedora every 6 months to a year seems like a
waste of resources.  The GTK3 and GNOME teams obviously have their
eyes on a different class of hardware than what is being used by
deployments.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 20:11:28 +0200,
 Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.com wrote:


Why is all this work being put into Fedora 20?  The maintenance window
is limited and as of the next release they won't even support non-KMS
drivers by default.  Wouldn't make sense to look into a distribution
that provides and LTS release?  Resources already seem to be limited
so having to chase after Fedora every 6 months to a year seems like a
waste of resources.  The GTK3 and GNOME teams obviously have their
eyes on a different class of hardware than what is being used by
deployments.


Fedora would probably be a better place to do the work. Arm is now a primary 
architecure (though not all arm devices are supported) in Fedora.


One would probably want to use XFCE as a desktop, rather than Gnome 3.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 things are looking good so far, we already have all the models booting
 into sugar 0.101 with wif apparentlyi working.


First, thanks for doing this work.



 I would like to take a step back and understand a bit better where we want
 to go with this. Some random thoughts and questions.

 * To really understand how much work is left I think we need some good
 testing, especially on the hardware related bits. I expect there will be
 lots of small things to fix, but it would be good to understand as early as
 possible if there are roadblocks. I'm a bad tester and I've never used the
 XO much, so I'm often not sure what is a regression and what is not... thus
 helping with this would be particularly appreciated.


This is a issue. If we have a Sugar with similar functionalities  (settings
and activities installed) we can request help from deployments and
volunteers.


 * Which deployments are planning to ship 0.102 soon and hence are
 interested in this work? I know of AU. Maybe Uruguay?


AU sure, if w don't have serious regressions. We need ask to Uruguay. Other
deployments usually update slowly.


 * Do we need to support all the XO models?


In a ideal world, that would make our life easier, we can define a eond of
line to our support of F18.


 * Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or fork
 it? I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the linux side
 of things, if not maybe better to turn this into a sugarlabs thing.


Probably James would know better respect of this issue. The changes we did
for AU are in a fork [1], but are not low level stuff,
just configurations.


 * Are interested deployments using olpc-update? If I'm not mistake AU is
 not.


We are not using it. I am pretty sure Nicaragua use it.


 * Do we care about maintaining the GNOME dual boot? I'm afraid we do,
 but I want to make sure.


Yes. Is a important feature for the deployments. In the end deployments
don't ask for Gnome, but for a standard desktop,
for some cases. If Gnome don't work without acceleration in F20, XFCE, mate
or similar can work.



 * As I mentioned in some other thread I'm interested in setting up
 automated  builds from sugar master. I have some vague plan of what it
 would look like and wrote bits of it. The basic idea is that you would push
 changes to github and get images automatically built. I think this is good
 for upstream testing but the same infrastructure could be used by
 deployments. Are people interested in using this?


I am not sure if do a complete build for every sugar commit have sense,
maybe yes do weekly builds, or automatic rpms.
The deployments usually make their own customizations, and will deploy one
or two images in a year.

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[1] https://github.com/godiard/olpc-os-builder/tree/au1b
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi,

to  be honest I haven't even evaluated alternative distributions because I
don't think we would have enough resources to do it anyway. We are making
minor changes to olpc-os-builder, rewriting it for another distribution
would be a lot of work.


On 12 May 2014 20:11, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello,
 
  things are looking good so far, we already have all the models booting
 into
  sugar 0.101 with wif apparentlyi working. I would like to take a step
 back
  and understand a bit better where we want to go with this. Some random
  thoughts and questions.
 
  * To really understand how much work is left I think we need some good
  testing, especially on the hardware related bits. I expect there will be
  lots of small things to fix, but it would be good to understand as early
 as
  possible if there are roadblocks. I'm a bad tester and I've never used
 the
  XO much, so I'm often not sure what is a regression and what is not...
 thus
  helping with this would be particularly appreciated.
  * Which deployments are planning to ship 0.102 soon and hence are
 interested
  in this work? I know of AU. Maybe Uruguay?
  * Do we need to support all the XO models?
  * Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or fork
 it?
  I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the linux side of
  things, if not maybe better to turn this into a sugarlabs thing.
  * Are interested deployments using olpc-update? If I'm not mistake AU is
  not.
  * Do we care about maintaining the GNOME dual boot? I'm afraid we do,
 but
  I want to make sure.
  * As I mentioned in some other thread I'm interested in setting up
 automated
  builds from sugar master. I have some vague plan of what it would look
 like
  and wrote bits of it. The basic idea is that you would push changes to
  github and get images automatically built. I think this is good for
 upstream
  testing but the same infrastructure could be used by deployments. Are
 people
  interested in using this?

 Why is all this work being put into Fedora 20?  The maintenance window
 is limited and as of the next release they won't even support non-KMS
 drivers by default.  Wouldn't make sense to look into a distribution
 that provides and LTS release?  Resources already seem to be limited
 so having to chase after Fedora every 6 months to a year seems like a
 waste of resources.  The GTK3 and GNOME teams obviously have their
 eyes on a different class of hardware than what is being used by
 deployments.

 -Jon




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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
+1


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 to  be honest I haven't even evaluated alternative distributions because I
 don't think we would have enough resources to do it anyway. We are making
 minor changes to olpc-os-builder, rewriting it for another distribution
 would be a lot of work.


 On 12 May 2014 20:11, Jon Nettleton jon.nettle...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello,
 
  things are looking good so far, we already have all the models booting
 into
  sugar 0.101 with wif apparentlyi working. I would like to take a step
 back
  and understand a bit better where we want to go with this. Some random
  thoughts and questions.
 
  * To really understand how much work is left I think we need some good
  testing, especially on the hardware related bits. I expect there will be
  lots of small things to fix, but it would be good to understand as
 early as
  possible if there are roadblocks. I'm a bad tester and I've never used
 the
  XO much, so I'm often not sure what is a regression and what is not...
 thus
  helping with this would be particularly appreciated.
  * Which deployments are planning to ship 0.102 soon and hence are
 interested
  in this work? I know of AU. Maybe Uruguay?
  * Do we need to support all the XO models?
  * Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or fork
 it?
  I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the linux side of
  things, if not maybe better to turn this into a sugarlabs thing.
  * Are interested deployments using olpc-update? If I'm not mistake AU is
  not.
  * Do we care about maintaining the GNOME dual boot? I'm afraid we do,
 but
  I want to make sure.
  * As I mentioned in some other thread I'm interested in setting up
 automated
  builds from sugar master. I have some vague plan of what it would look
 like
  and wrote bits of it. The basic idea is that you would push changes to
  github and get images automatically built. I think this is good for
 upstream
  testing but the same infrastructure could be used by deployments. Are
 people
  interested in using this?

 Why is all this work being put into Fedora 20?  The maintenance window
 is limited and as of the next release they won't even support non-KMS
 drivers by default.  Wouldn't make sense to look into a distribution
 that provides and LTS release?  Resources already seem to be limited
 so having to chase after Fedora every 6 months to a year seems like a
 waste of resources.  The GTK3 and GNOME teams obviously have their
 eyes on a different class of hardware than what is being used by
 deployments.

 -Jon




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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 12 May 2014 21:07, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

 First, thanks for doing this work.


Thanks for helping out.


  I would like to take a step back and understand a bit better where we
 want to go with this. Some random thoughts and questions.

 * To really understand how much work is left I think we need some good
 testing, especially on the hardware related bits. I expect there will be
 lots of small things to fix, but it would be good to understand as early as
 possible if there are roadblocks. I'm a bad tester and I've never used the
 XO much, so I'm often not sure what is a regression and what is not... thus
 helping with this would be particularly appreciated.


 This is a issue. If we have a Sugar with similar functionalities
  (settings and activities installed) we can request help from deployments
 and volunteers.


Are you thinking to deployment specific settings and activities here? Or
some kind of subset/reference that is good enough for all the interested
deployments?

* Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or fork it?
 I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the linux side of
 things, if not maybe better to turn this into a sugarlabs thing.


Probably James would know better respect of this issue. The changes we did
 for AU are in a fork [1], but are not low level stuff,
 just configurations.


Yes. I don't really have a strong feeling one way or another. I can send
patches for the generic parts if they are wanted.

I think we also need a place where to put reference configurations. I
initially had put them in olpc-os-builder, numbered as 14.0.0 but that
feels wrong... since no official olpc releases are planned. I suppose I
could edit the examples/f18-[model].ini ones instead, but I would need
access to whatever repository we use to change those without needing review
every time.


 * Are interested deployments using olpc-update? If I'm not mistake AU is
 not.


 We are not using it. I am pretty sure Nicaragua use it.


Is AU using yum?


 * Do we care about maintaining the GNOME dual boot? I'm afraid we do,
 but I want to make sure.


 Yes. Is a important feature for the deployments. In the end deployments
 don't ask for Gnome, but for a standard desktop,
 for some cases. If Gnome don't work without acceleration in F20, XFCE,
 mate or similar can work.


I've seen screenshots of GNOME fallback in F20, so I'm hopeful it's still
there. But yeah, in the worst case there are alternatives.

* As I mentioned in some other thread I'm interested in setting up
 automated  builds from sugar master. I have some vague plan of what it
 would look like and wrote bits of it. The basic idea is that you would push
 changes to github and get images automatically built. I think this is good
 for upstream testing but the same infrastructure could be used by
 deployments. Are people interested in using this?


 I am not sure if do a complete build for every sugar commit have sense,
 maybe yes do weekly builds, or automatic rpms.


Yeah, weekly images and one rpm per commit was pretty much what I had in
mind. (With yum based updates doing frequent builds is less important by
the way). Well, it's probably good to have one image per commit to the
build configurations repository, but that's different.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Paul Fox
daniel wrote:
  * Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or fork it?
   I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the linux side of
   things, if not maybe better to turn this into a sugarlabs thing.
 ...
  Yes. I don't really have a strong feeling one way or another. I can send
  patches for the generic parts if they are wanted.
  
  I think we also need a place where to put reference configurations. I
  initially had put them in olpc-os-builder, numbered as 14.0.0 but that
  feels wrong... since no official olpc releases are planned. I suppose I
  could edit the examples/f18-[model].ini ones instead, but I would need
  access to whatever repository we use to change those without needing review
  every time.

in my opinion, the value of not forking would outweigh the risk of
giving commit privs to someone from (gasp!) sugarlabs. ;-)  (that really
is just an opinion, of course.  it's not my call.)

it also seems like this problem could be well solved with branches and
tags.  i haven't looked at the o-o-b tree, but i assume the current
13.2.0 point could be frozen (branch or tag) and other work could
continue, and eventually branched or tagged itself.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 13 May 2014 00:43, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:

 daniel wrote:
   * Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or fork
 it?
I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the linux side
 of
things, if not maybe better to turn this into a sugarlabs thing.
  ...
   Yes. I don't really have a strong feeling one way or another. I can send
   patches for the generic parts if they are wanted.
  
   I think we also need a place where to put reference configurations. I
   initially had put them in olpc-os-builder, numbered as 14.0.0 but that
   feels wrong... since no official olpc releases are planned. I suppose I
   could edit the examples/f18-[model].ini ones instead, but I would need
   access to whatever repository we use to change those without needing
 review
   every time.

 in my opinion, the value of not forking would outweigh the risk of
 giving commit privs to someone from (gasp!) sugarlabs. ;-)  (that really
 is just an opinion, of course.  it's not my call.)


I don't know... we are kind of dangerous people :P


 it also seems like this problem could be well solved with branches and
 tags.  i haven't looked at the o-o-b tree, but i assume the current
 13.2.0 point could be frozen (branch or tag) and other work could
 continue, and eventually branched or tagged itself.


Yeah, I made my changes on a branch already (v8.0).
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 08:02:22PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
 things are looking good so far, we already have all the models
 booting into sugar 0.101 with wif apparentlyi working.

I agree, well done.  Why is it everybody named Daniel does development
so fast?  ;-)

 * Should we contribute the olpc-os-builder changes back to OLPC or
 fork it? I don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the
 linux side of things, if not maybe better to turn this into a
 sugarlabs thing.

Contribute, please.  In whatever way is best for you and your users;
(a) patches by mail, (b) fork and pull requests, (c) an account on
dev.laptop.org.

I also don't know if OLPC will do any active development on the Linux
side of things.  It is more likely now than yesterday, because FZT's
new requirements may cascade into work by OLPC.

 * Are interested deployments using olpc-update? If I'm not mistake
   AU is not.

UY is not.  It is very useful feature though, small changes possible
without reinstalling every laptop.

--

Also, I agree with Jon Nettleton, while there is substantial risk
continuing with Fedora, with reduced opportunity, there are greater
opportunities with other distributions.

However, the deployments are an installed base, and may not be
interested in switching at this time, unless a compelling reason
exists.

So by all means, look for compelling reasons and ways to reduce
development effort.  Meanwhile, work with Fedora specialists.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Daniel Narvaez
xo4 image finally built (untested yet)

http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo4/2/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread Martin Abente
Downloading!


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 xo4 image finally built (untested yet)

 http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo4/2/

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-12 Thread John Watlington

On May 12, 2014, at 7:34 PM, James Cameron wrote:
 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:08:41AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 Probably you already know that, but xo-1 and xo-1.5 have a 8686
 wireless card, different to the 8787 in the xo-4
 
 Actually, XO-1 has 8388 and is soldered down card.

XO-1: 88W8388 soldered to motherboard
XO-1.5, XO-1.75, and XO-4: 88W8686 SDIO card
XO-4: 88W8787 SDIO card

From a hardware point of view, the 88W8787 802.11a/b/g SDIO card works
fine in XO-1.5/1.75/4 laptops (early driver development was done using 
XO-1.5...)
but was only certified/available in XO-4 laptops.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-11 Thread Daniel Narvaez
I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

The xo1 boots into sugar but there are no activities installed (I probably
got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one would be welcome,
I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze.


On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested much
 but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded. I'm
 building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can get wifi
 working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick with me
 and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO
 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to build
 for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to rebuild the 
 X
 driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see if I can 
 get
 it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Abente
Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 The xo1 boots into sugar but there are no activities installed (I probably
 got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one would be welcome,
 I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze.


 On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested much
 but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded. I'm
 building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can get wifi
 working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick with
 me and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to
 something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at
 right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO
 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to
 build for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to 
 rebuild
 the X driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see if 
 I
 can get it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-11 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Downloading...


On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 The xo1 boots into sugar but there are no activities installed (I
 probably got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one would be
 welcome, I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze.


 On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested much
 but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded. I'm
 building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can get wifi
 working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick with
 me and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to
 something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at
 right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for
 XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to
 build for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to 
 rebuild
 the X driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see 
 if I
 can get it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Abente
Hey Daniel,

Could you check if this is correct?

$md5sum 10001xx1.zd
$0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors very
early on the boot sequence, with message:

tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 The xo1 boots into sugar but there are no activities installed (I
 probably got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one would be
 welcome, I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze.


 On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested
 much but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded. I'm
 building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can get wifi
 working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick with
 me and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing
 :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to
 something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at
 right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for
 XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to
 build for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to 
 rebuild
 the X driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see 
 if I
 can get it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-11 Thread Daniel Narvaez
This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors very
 early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 The xo1 boots into sugar but there are no activities installed (I
 probably got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one would be
 welcome, I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze.


 On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested
 much but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded.
 I'm building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can get
 wifi working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in 
 the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick
 with me and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for
 it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing
 :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have
 good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to
 something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at
 right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for
 XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to
 build for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to 
 rebuild
 the X driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see 
 if I
 can get it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-11 Thread Daniel Narvaez
A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages built
from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not even
boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they works.

http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin. The
problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io, which
doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually losetup the
partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work eventually :)

I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should be
able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and some
initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors very
 early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 The xo1 boots into sugar but there are no activities installed (I
 probably got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one would 
 be
 welcome, I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze.


 On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested
 much but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded.
 I'm building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can get
 wifi working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in 
 the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick
 with me and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for
 it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for
 testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have
 good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to
 something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at
 right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image
 for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to
 build for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to 
 rebuild
 the X driver but I think that will require some patching, let's 
 see if I
 can get it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Abente
Downloading!


On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 A couple more images, for xo1 and xo1.5. They have sugar packages built
 from latest sugar git. I have not tested them yet so they might not even
 boot, but if someone gives them a try please let me know how they works.

 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1/1/
 http://146.185.144.82:3000/images/xo1.5/1/

 The xo1.5 one also *attempts* to fix the issue reported by Martin. The
 problem is that I'm running the x86 build slave inside docker.io, which
 doesn't like xpart. So I patched olpc-os-builder to manually losetup the
 partitions, but it's sort of tricky to get right. It will work eventually :)

 I have arm packages for latest git almost built, so tomorrow I should be
 able to build xo1.75 and xo4 images too. The oob configurations and some
 initial bits of automated builds infra are now here

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/xugar



 On 11 May 2014 20:49, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 This could be a change I made. I will investigate and let you know.


 On 11 May 2014 20:31, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey Daniel,

 Could you check if this is correct?

 $md5sum 10001xx1.zd
 $0cc8f3f71d636c8dc4464ffb8bf1847b  10001xx1.zd


 Tested with 2 different XOs 1.5 and I am getting kernel panic errors
 very early on the boot sequence, with message:

 tmpfs: No value for mount option 'strictatime'
 mount: mounting on /newrun failed: invalid argument
 mount used greatest stack depth 6752 bytes left.





 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Gonzalo Odiard 
 godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 Downloading...


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Downloading 10001xx1.zd , will let you know how it goes soon.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 I made builds for xo1 and xo1.5 with the firmware change

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 The xo1 boots into sugar but there are no activities installed (I
 probably got something wrong in the ini). Testing on the xo1.5 one would 
 be
 welcome, I'm curious if firmware solves the startup freeze.


 On 11 May 2014 00:24, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


 On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested
 much but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded.
 I'm building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can 
 get
 wifi working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in 
 the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick
 with me and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms
 for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente 
 martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for
 testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez
 wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have
 good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to
 something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking
 at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image
 for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to
 build for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to 
 rebuild
 the X driver but I think that will require some patching, let's 
 see if I
 can get it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-10 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested much but
wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded. I'm
 building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can get wifi
 working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick with me
 and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to build
 for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to rebuild the X
 driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see if I can get
 it to work...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Abente
great!! Let me know when you have an image with this!


On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Firmware loading works with the rebuilt systemd! I have not tested much
 but wifi works now. Next step, build images with latest sugar...


 On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded. I'm
 building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can get wifi
 working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick with me
 and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO
 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to build
 for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to rebuild the X
 driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see if I can 
 get
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-09 Thread Daniel Narvaez
I built an image for 1.75

http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick with me and
having troubles finding something the XO likes.


On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to build for
 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to rebuild the X
 driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see if I can get
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-09 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 9 May 2014 14:24, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
 
  On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
   [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
   enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.
 
  If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
  more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
  now, but it would be helpful to the users.
 
  Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)
 
 
  I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5
 
  https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 olpc-os-builder git master also has F20 support, as of a few months
 ago. Can't remember how good the result was.


Does the 3.10 kernel which is used there have olpc patches applied?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-09 Thread Peter Robinson
 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 olpc-os-builder git master also has F20 support, as of a few months
 ago. Can't remember how good the result was.

I suspect wifi and anything that needed firmware will fail to work
because of changes in the firmware loading interface needs newer
kernels (3.4 is too old for example)

Support of the XOs in Fedora upstream is something I've been asked
about a number of times of late by varying different people.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-09 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 9 May 2014 15:50, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
   [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
   enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.
 
  If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
  more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
  now, but it would be helpful to the users.
 
  Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)
 
 
  I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5
 
  https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder
 
  olpc-os-builder git master also has F20 support, as of a few months
  ago. Can't remember how good the result was.

 I suspect wifi and anything that needed firmware will fail to work
 because of changes in the firmware loading interface needs newer
 kernels (3.4 is too old for example)


Is this the change you are referring to

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/arm/2013-June/006116.html

Rebuilding systemd wouldn't be too bad if it solves it...

Support of the XOs in Fedora upstream is something I've been asked
 about a number of times of late by varying different people.


That would be awesome of course.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-09 Thread Daniel Narvaez
I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded. I'm
building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can get wifi
working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in the
virtual machine takes really too long.


On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick with me
 and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to build
 for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to rebuild the X
 driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see if I can get
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-09 Thread Daniel Narvaez
By the way, I suspect the issue with small icons is something we already
fixed in 0.101. As soon as we have the base system working decently I'm
planning to make builds with latest sugar from git.


On 10 May 2014 01:22, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built a xo4 image, which like 1.75 boots fine into sugar

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/xo4/

 The main problem, as discussed, is that firmwares are not loaded. I'm
 building a systemd rpm with firmware loading enabled. If we can get wifi
 working then it should be easier to play with stuff, building in the
 virtual machine takes really too long.


 On 9 May 2014 14:13, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 I built an image for 1.75

 http://sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/images/

 I've not been able to test yet. I don't have my usual usb stick with me
 and having troubles finding something the XO likes.


 On 8 May 2014 02:04, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to build
 for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to rebuild the X
 driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see if I can get
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-08 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
These are fantastic news!
Thanks Daniel for working on this

Gonzalo


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to build for
 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to rebuild the X
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-08 Thread Martin Abente
Hello Daniel,

I built the image for XO 1.5 but it freezes during boot.

It reaches to the stage:

Starting Wait for Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit...


Right after that I see these two messages:


dcon_freeze_store: 1
dcon_source_switch to DCON


Then the screen slowly and gradually turns gray.

Any idea what this could be? Any suggestion for debugging it?

Regards,
Martin.




On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 These are fantastic news!
 Thanks Daniel for working on this

 Gonzalo


 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to build
 for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to rebuild the X
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Narvaez
It would be good to start the kernel with systemd.unit=multi-user.target so
that (hopefully) we just get a console instead of dcon freezing/X startup...

I'm not sure how to easily pass kernel arguments on the XO though. Does
anyone know?


On 8 May 2014 18:55, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Daniel,

 I built the image for XO 1.5 but it freezes during boot.

 It reaches to the stage:

 Starting Wait for Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit...


 Right after that I see these two messages:


 dcon_freeze_store: 1
 dcon_source_switch to DCON


 Then the screen slowly and gradually turns gray.

 Any idea what this could be? Any suggestion for debugging it?

 Regards,
 Martin.




 On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.orgwrote:

 These are fantastic news!
 Thanks Daniel for working on this

 Gonzalo


 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

 http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

 Now building an image with those.


 On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to build
 for 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to rebuild the X
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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-08 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 12:55:32PM -0400, Martin Abente wrote:
 I built the image for XO 1.5 but it freezes during boot.
 It reaches to the stage:
 Starting Wait for Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit...
 Right after that I see these two messages:
 dcon_freeze_store: 1
 dcon_source_switch to DCON

Are these messages on display or on serial port?  If on display,
attach a serial terminal and look for more messages.  Because once the
DCON is frozen, you won't see any display updates.

 Then the screen slowly and gradually turns gray.

The screen does this in the event that the video output from the
processor stops.

With the DCON frozen, the screen should not do this.  I think the DCON
has been unfrozen, but the video output has stopped.

 Any idea what this could be? Any suggestion for debugging it?

Attach serial terminal and enquire as to the state of processes
responsible for video output.  Usually the X server.  Check the X
server logs.

Alternatively, if serial terminal cannot be used (e.g. no cable),
build the image with a preloaded SSH key, and a preselected network.

Then once the wireless LED shows network connection, use SSH to log in
and debug through that channel.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-08 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 11:49:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
 It would be good to start the kernel with
 systemd.unit=multi-user.target so that (hopefully) we just get a
 console instead of dcon freezing/X startup...
 
 I'm not sure how to easily pass kernel arguments on the XO
 though. Does anyone know?

Yes.  Stop Open Firmware at the ok [1] prompt, then edit the olpc.fth
file using microEmacs [2]:

ok emacs int:\boot\olpc.fth

Scroll down to the extra kernel parameters section:

\  extra kernel parameters here to boot-file

and change it to

 systemd.unit=multi-user.target to boot-file

Carefully see that the slash has been removed, and that a space is
kept after the first double quote character.  The slash is a comment
character [3].

Write the file with Control/X Control/S, then exit with Control/X
Control/C.

The file is reset by fs-update.


You can also customise olpc.fth in olpc-os-builder.


You can also manually pass arguments, but this is more typing and
isn't remembered:

ok  int:\boot\vmlinuz to boot-device
ok  int:\boot\initrd.img to ramdisk
ok  systemd.unit=multi-user.target to boot-file
ok boot


References:

1.  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ok
2.  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Forth_Lesson_13#Text_editor
3.  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Forth_Lesson_2#Comment_to_End_of_Line

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-08 Thread James Cameron
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 06:07:44PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote:
 Can you not hold down the X key while powering on to suppress the
 splash screen?

Yes, but it might be frame buffer driver related too.

 Should you not be able to use ctl+alt+F2(F3,F4) to access a command
 prompt in the other ttys?

Yes, but it might be frame buffer driver related too.

Both ideas worth trying, but I guess it depends on the kernel.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)

2014-05-07 Thread Daniel Narvaez
As an update, I have patched xorg-x11-drv-dove and built rpms for it

http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~dnarvaez/oob/f20-xo1.75/

Now building an image with those.


On 7 May 2014 15:18, Martin Abente martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Great!

 I will try your oob branch for 1.5, I do have XOs 1.5 for testing :)



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 7 May 2014 01:44, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 04:24:39PM +0200, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
  [...] And with the XO stuck on Fedora 18 we might not have good
  enough introspection to make the port compatible with it.

 If anybody would like to work on moving olpc-os-builder to something
 more recent, feel free.  It isn't something OLPC is looking at right
 now, but it would be helpful to the users.

 Not the die hard 0.98 users, of course.  ;-)


 I'm giving that a try. I was able to build a Fedora 20 image for XO 1.5

 https://github.com/dnarvaez/olpc-os-builder

 I don't have hardware to test that though... I'm now trying to build for
 1.75 which is harder but I can actually test. I need to rebuild the X
 driver but I think that will require some patching, let's see if I can get
 it to work...

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