Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-11 Thread rihoward1
You can transfers files between systems, (in the absence of an XS server), using a light weight web server such as boa To install boa on the XO: su - yum install boa If you want more details on how to configure boa let me know and I will post the instructions. I use boa to pull log files

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-10 Thread pgf
mikus wrote: Talking about copy-from-journal and copy-to-journal: can you provide a pointer to these scripts? Try 'which'. On my XO they're in /usr/bin. doh! i guess i don't use my XO as much as i thought! when you said written by users i assumed you meant you had obtained them from

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mikus wrote: Talking about copy-from-journal and copy-to-journal: can you provide a pointer to these scripts? Try 'which'. On my XO they're in /usr/bin. doh! i guess i don't use my XO as much as i thought! when you said written by

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
Martin, Deniz, cool it, the pair of you. No more ad hominem attacks. You each owe the other an apology. And one to Marco, too. The list is not out of touch. There are many on the list who are ignorant of conditions on the ground and of other things through no fault of their own. Now shake hands

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 08:10:57PM -0400, Deniz Kural wrote: [this list is out of touch] Hence, student, or teacher, I need a USB stick. 1. Plug USB stick into XO running build from the last six months 2. Drag files from the Journal to the USB stick icon 3. Drag files from the USB stick's file

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, Deniz, cool it, the pair of you. No more ad hominem attacks. You each owe the other an apology. And one to Marco, too. Thank you Edward, but no need for an apology. It's the funniest thing I heard in the last week,

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 05:36:10PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: Martin, Deniz, cool it, the pair of you. No more ad hominem attacks. Relax. As to my ad-hominem attacks, how is it ad-hominem to say that someone who says something incorrect is out of touch (with the truth/progress/etc.)? Or say

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice either:) Nia, this kind of flames are customary in a technical mailing list and I don't really think Erik should take personal offence about them. If you

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, MArco. I still think talking to Erik like that isn't very nice either:) Nia, this kind of flames are customary in a technical mailing

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Nia Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tyler Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED], devel@lists.laptop.org Subject Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are we

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Nia Lewis
], Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tyler Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Nia Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marco, That was a really nice welcome. I work with Elana and the learning

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-08 Thread Nia Lewis
devel@lists.laptop.org, elana langer [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julia Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED], Reuben K. Caron [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tyler Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:21

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mikus wrote: - First off, every Activity has a 'Name Field' in its top menu. When running any Activity, the user should enter there a short Title to identify the resulting Journal entry from all others. - Then, upon

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am concerned that focusing on such systems is breaking simple use cases and causing problems for users in the field. I believe that this functionality is important, but do not agree that it should comprise the base layer

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:05:41PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are we going to rectify the general slowness of our user interface? It may not be enough to work on the performance problem from within the

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to fully qualify names for their work. Doing so seems to lie outside of one of the core points of Sugar's design (There are no files, folders, or

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Bastien
Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my mind the fundamental problem is that users aren't required to fully qualify names for their work. Doing so seems to lie outside of one of the core points of Sugar's

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:05:41PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are we going to rectify the general slowness of our user interface? It may

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-07 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Fully qualified names (file names) are simple. They are misused to the extent that users give things strange or confusing names. But, the names are qualified and the users can encounter their work simply by remembering most components of the name. The concept is straightforward: given this

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-06 Thread pgf
mikus wrote: - First off, every Activity has a 'Name Field' in its top menu. When running any Activity, the user should enter there a short Title to identify the resulting Journal entry from all others. - Then, upon leaving that Activity, the user should reflect on what was