Half a New Planning Thoughts Draft; release management half.

2008-05-13 Thread Michael Stone
Available at a wiki near you: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Plan_of_Record-2008/Draft_3 The important changes since the last version include: * simplified prose, care of Mitch * a serious proposal for a stable release process for the next few months * separation of release management thoughts

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-18 Thread Kim Quirk
In my experience running QA teams and releases for commercial projects, small fast releases require (or imply) quite a bit of focused process and really good automation on the testing side. Also, after other discussions on this list, it seems like there are two other items that drive 'major

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/4/18 Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In my experience running QA teams and releases for commercial projects, small fast releases require (or imply) quite a bit of focused process and really good automation on the testing side. Excellent ideas, both, in any case. Also, after other

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-18 Thread david
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Kim Quirk wrote: In my experience running QA teams and releases for commercial projects, small fast releases require (or imply) quite a bit of focused process and really good automation on the testing side. Also, after other discussions on this list, it seems like there

New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Michael Stone
Available at a wiki near you: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Plan_of_Record-2008/Draft_2 The important changes since the last version are: * a new foreword, with a rich analogy describing our present situation, * a new (tentative) commentary/criticism of our release process to date, * a

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Available at a wiki near you: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Plan_of_Record-2008/Draft_2 Making quick progresses, yay! A couple of thoughts about the release process: * Reducing the scope of the releases is a reasonable

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
Peanut gallery comments... On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:02:02PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Available at a wiki near you: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Plan_of_Record-2008/Draft_2 Making quick progresses, yay!

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Smaller-and-faster (focused) releases are an interesting idea but I think they are also quite a challenge. We need to ensure that we are able to parallelize the various streams. For example, if we do a

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see this too as a hard problem and don't really have experience neither. What I would expect is that working on frequent time-based releases with features slipping as needed works best for projects like linux distros,