Re: [SailfishDevel] Out of curiosity: why are you developing for SailfishOS?

2014-01-10 Thread Martin Kolman
Because it's there. ;-) 10.1.2014 11:26, Ruediger Gad: Hi all, just out of curiosity, I am asking why are you developing for SailfishOS and, if yes, what is your motivation to push your apps to Harbour? I don't want to spam the mailing list with such an off-topic discussion. Hence, I created a

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Martin Windolph
Hi, I tried out Davids QtMultimedia workaround, but that doesn't help while I have found other issues with sound after digging a bit deeper, not only the volume problem with the Audio element. Btw. if I just remove the fading effect behaviour from my title music, the system volume isn't chang

Re: [SailfishDevel] mersdk and kernel-devel

2014-01-10 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
It took couple of hours to figure everything out but finally it looks promising... [SB2 sdk-build SailfishOS-armv7hl] I have no name!@SailfishSDK 62 $ modinfo hello.ko filename: /home/mersdk/testit/62/hello.ko depends: vermagic: 3.4.0-perf-g8401fcf SMP preempt mod_unload modversions

Re: [SailfishDevel] AAC support

2014-01-10 Thread Simo Salo
Hi I share Damiems experience. I syncronized some tracks in aac format into Jolla. Media-APP showed them zero-lenght. Changed them to MP3 and it worked fine. Regards Simo 2014/1/9 Jens Persson > I've been testing lots of audio formats in Sailfish (aac, dts, flac, mp3, > opus, alac, ac3, vorbi

[SailfishDevel] On device development

2014-01-10 Thread ge592
Hi I am trying to compile an existing Qt program on a Jolla device. However some qt5 devel packages cannot be installed because of the missing depency libEGL-devel $ pkcon install qt5-qtgui-devel Installing[=] Waiting in queue

[SailfishDevel] x-maemo-urischeme problems

2014-01-10 Thread Andreas Storbjörk
Hi, I've been trying to register a uri scheme handler, something like "myapp://x", so that when Sailfish browser tries to open such an url, it would open my app and pass the url as argument. But so far I've had very little success.. it seems to work if I use the "lca-tool" command to veri

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? -> SMS

2014-01-10 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi David Please update the user guide! I suspect there is lots of other hidden functionality that many of us have yet to uncover because we have not discovered / tried the magic move to find it. And the more of these things are covered in the guide, the higher the chance that we will try

Re: [SailfishDevel] Out of curiosity: why are you developing for SailfishOS?

2014-01-10 Thread christopher . lamb
Because I had an N9 and started developing Apps for that and "got into" Qt and realised that Qt enabled multiplatform development (Harmatan, Sailfish, BB10, Android, Ubuntu et al) and because it allowed me to hone my unix skills . . . and because it is not an iphone! Grüsse Chris Zitat

Re: [SailfishDevel] mersdk and kernel-devel

2014-01-10 Thread Jonni Rainisto
I think that someone did source code request and posted the kernel online: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1395881&postcount=8 And if you don't trust random internet urls there is source code request information in devices about screen. re, Jonni From: devel

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? -> SMS

2014-01-10 Thread christopher . lamb
Kalle Thanks, That does actually work for me, but it is a bit fiddly - or crowded as you put it. A prod generally selects a block of text, the ends of the selection can then be individually moved to meet and make a cursor, which can then be moved to the required location. So this does w

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour: Allow more libraries to link against

2014-01-10 Thread Reto Zingg
Hi, On 10.01.2014 16:11, Thomas Tanghus wrote: On Thursday 02 January 2014 11:43 Reto Zingg wrote: If not then we reject it. Most likely you have still some timer running? Stop them when your app is not active. What if your app is a timer app? I disable animation if !applicationActive except

Re: [SailfishDevel] mersdk and kernel-devel

2014-01-10 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
btw, what profit on sourcecode request? why not to publish it initially for everyone? why every developer should request sources? On 10.01.2014 21:34, Jonni Rainisto wrote: I think that someone did source code request and posted the kernel online: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1395881&po

[SailfishDevel] mersdk and kernel-devel

2014-01-10 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
ahoy, How can i install kernel-devel to mersdk for compiling modules for SailfishOs-armv7hl ? Can't find module.h -kimmo ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour: Allow more libraries to link against

2014-01-10 Thread Thomas Tanghus
On Thursday 02 January 2014 11:43 Reto Zingg wrote: > If not then we reject it. Most likely you have still some timer running? > Stop them when your app is not active. What if your app is a timer app? I disable animation if !applicationActive except updating a label on the cover. -- Med venli

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Reto Zingg
Hi, On 10.01.2014 15:56, Martin Windolph wrote: Hi, oh, thanks for the information and sorry then for hijacking this thread. I thought that it was just an assumption that Audio was the reason. How can I find out if it's audio that is preventing suspend mode (emulator or device)? So Audio outp

[SailfishDevel] Unable to send mail

2014-01-10 Thread Simon Brown
Hi, As another data point for the other thread, I am unable to send mail through Fastmail's proxy server. Receiving mail is fine. The server is smtps-proxy.messagingengine.com and it listens on all ports. I've tried both SSL and TLS. Simon -- Simon Brown ___

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Martin Windolph
Hi, oh, thanks for the information and sorry then for hijacking this thread. I thought that it was just an assumption that Audio was the reason. How can I find out if it's audio that is preventing suspend mode (emulator or device)? So Audio output seems to be really a problem in Sailfish OS. I

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Reto Zingg
Hi, On 10.01.2014 11:01, Martin Windolph wrote: Hi, another point for me is a possibility to contact the tester. A prior rejection reason for an update of my game "Morzyn" was a missing menu button (that was absolutely ok, because it leads to bad usability, so I included one), my last rejection

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? -> SMS

2014-01-10 Thread David Greaves
On 10/01/14 12:52, Chris Walker wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:51:27 +0100 > Markus Svensson wrote: > >> Ah - tap-and-pan, never tried that particular gesture :) >> >> But it does work - thanks for pointing it out. > > A definite +1 for that. I looked at an iPhone recently and to be able > to

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? -> SMS

2014-01-10 Thread Chris Walker
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:51:27 +0100 Markus Svensson wrote: > Ah - tap-and-pan, never tried that particular gesture :) > > But it does work - thanks for pointing it out. A definite +1 for that. I looked at an iPhone recently and to be able to zoom in and rock a finger to move between letters was

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-10 Thread Chris Walker
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:07:24 +0200 Kalle Vahlman wrote: > 2014/1/10 Chris Walker : > > On the way home from the meeting, I wanted to send a text to my > > wife. If I thought email was difficult, that was a walk in the park > > compared to trying to send an SMS. Seriously people, have you tried >

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Oleksii Serdiuk
Just a suggestion: add a configurable option "Run when minimized" with a notice that it will consume device power/CPU if it's enabled. Maybe, this will satisfy Harbour QA. On 10/01/14 10:01, Martin Windolph wrote: > Hi, > > another point for me is a possibility to contact the tester. > A prior re

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-10 Thread Graham Cobb
On 10/01/14 11:01, Benoît HERVIER wrote: > I ve see similar things, while entering leaving metro in Paris > (unreliable network coverage). I have also seen some similar issues but I have not yet put a SIM card into my Jolla at all! I am using WiFi, of course. > Lagging, many 'can't connect' not

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Gabriel Böhme
Just great to hear. ;-) -- Von meinem Nokia N9 gesendet Andrey Kozhevnikov schrieb am 10.01.14 12:23: I can assure you that the author is aware of Harbour ;) On 10.01.2014 17:17, Benoît HERVIER wrote: Indeed, we should suggest it to his author. But that s a beta, i didn't think he want t

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
I can assure you that the author is aware of Harbour ;) On 10.01.2014 17:17, Benoît HERVIER wrote: Indeed, we should suggest it to his author. But that s a beta, i didn't think he want to push it now. Regards, --- Benoît HERVIER - http://khertan.net/ Le 2014-01-10 12:06, Gabriel Böhme a éc

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Benoît HERVIER
Indeed, we should suggest it to his author. But that s a beta, i didn't think he want to push it now. Regards, --- Benoît HERVIER - http://khertan.net/ Le 2014-01-10 12:06, Gabriel Böhme a écrit : > What about pushing the WareHouse app to Jolla Store?! So everyone can find > it. :) > >

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Gabriel Böhme
What about pushing the WareHouse app to Jolla Store?! So everyone can find it. :) Don't know if possible, just an idea. -- Von meinem Nokia N9 gesendet Benoît HERVIER schrieb am 10.01.14 11:53: Hi all ! I'm also waiting that using python interpreter as a dependancy are accepted in Harbo

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-10 Thread Benoît HERVIER
I ve see similar things, while entering leaving metro in Paris (unreliable network coverage). Lagging, many 'can't connect' notification, not responding, removing battery. I've currently activated persistent mode in journal (else journal are cleaned at reboot), to be able to see what happen,

Re: [SailfishDevel] Out of curiosity: why are you developing for SailfishOS?

2014-01-10 Thread Franck Routier (perso)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I second that, as I'm in the exact same situtation, and have the same motivations. I also now own a Jolla, and like the hack my technical stuffs :-) Franck Le 10/01/2014 11:55, Markus Svensson a écrit : > I do it because I like learning new stuff. My

Re: [SailfishDevel] Out of curiosity: why are you developing for SailfishOS?

2014-01-10 Thread Markus Svensson
I do it because I like learning new stuff. My main language day to day language is Java, and Sailfish is an interesting platform for keeping up with C++ and QT. I also like to think that it should be fairly easy to port Sailfish apps to Ubuntu Phone as well. As long as the back end and GUI are k

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Benoît HERVIER
Hi all ! I'm also waiting that using python interpreter as a dependancy are accepted in Harbour. Also some tips suggest that s will be Python 3 ... but SailfishOS still have py2.7. While i'm waiting to submit them to harbour, some of my Apps are already running on my device, and some are alr

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? -> SMS

2014-01-10 Thread Markus Svensson
Ah - tap-and-pan, never tried that particular gesture :) But it does work - thanks for pointing it out. /M > 10 jan 2014 kl. 11:48 skrev Kalle Vahlman : > > 2014/1/10 Markus Svensson : >> >>> Just tap on the text to move the cursor. For precision placement, hold >>> your finger down until it

Re: [SailfishDevel] Out of curiosity: why are you developing for SailfishOS?

2014-01-10 Thread Andrey Kozhevnikov
because linux On 10.01.2014 16:26, Ruediger Gad wrote: Hi all, just out of curiosity, I am asking why are you developing for SailfishOS and, if yes, what is your motivation to push your apps to Harbour? I don't want to spam the mailing list with such an off-topic discussion. Hence, I created a

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? -> SMS

2014-01-10 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2014/1/10 Markus Svensson : > >> Just tap on the text to move the cursor. For precision placement, hold >> your finger down until it zooms in. >> > > This does not work for me. Holding does nothing more than selecting the text. Oh, hmm. Long-press indeed selects text, but if you tap and pan over t

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? -> SMS

2014-01-10 Thread Markus Svensson
> Just tap on the text to move the cursor. For precision placement, hold > your finger down until it zooms in. > This does not work for me. Holding does nothing more than selecting the text. No zoom or percussion movement capability. It's the biggest reason I don't use my Jolla for email and S

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? -> SMS

2014-01-10 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2014/1/10 : > 2) When you reply to an SMS, the new SMS is hidden at the very bottom of > screen, and requires a second prod to show the keyboard. I think it would be > better if the new SMS opened with the keyboard deployed. That would mean hiding most of the conversation by default though. > 3)

[SailfishDevel] Out of curiosity: why are you developing for SailfishOS?

2014-01-10 Thread Ruediger Gad
Hi all, just out of curiosity, I am asking why are you developing for SailfishOS and, if yes, what is your motivation to push your apps to Harbour? I don't want to spam the mailing list with such an off-topic discussion. Hence, I created a thread at talk.maemo.org for this: http://talk.maemo.org/s

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox? -> SMS

2014-01-10 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi All As I have had the flu for the past few days, I have been working from home, and thus receiving and sending quiet a few SMSes with work colleagues. On the whole I found the SMS app useable, even if it could benefit from some tweaking. I found the "prod to reply" fairly obvious, IMHO

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Andreas Enbacka
Thanks for the support :) I will develop QSpot for SailfishOS, timetable however depends on when certain libs will be whitelisted / allowed. I could also consider publishing an alpha for testing somewhere else. I hope that the QA process will be improved and eased, and possible more automation

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Martin Windolph
Hi, another point for me is a possibility to contact the tester. A prior rejection reason for an update of my game "Morzyn" was a missing menu button (that was absolutely ok, because it leads to bad usability, so I included one), my last rejection reason was battery consumption when minimizing

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2014/1/10 Ruediger Gad : > On 01/10/2014 09:32 AM, Kalle Vahlman wrote: >> 2014/1/10 Andreas Enbacka : >>> I would like to agree with Franck on this. I have also partly held off >>> developing for SailfishOS due to e.g., the Harbour process, as well as due >>> to APIs my apps need to are not allowe

Re: [SailfishDevel] No inbox?

2014-01-10 Thread Norbert Wenzel
On 01/09/2014 06:16 PM, Reto Zingg wrote: On 09.01.2014 19:03, Markus Svensson wrote: Does the mail app log errors somewhere on the device? If you have developer mode enabled, set in /home/nemo/.config/QtProject/Messageserver.conf: [StdStreamLog] Enabled=1 Then run message server in foregrou

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Ruediger Gad
Hi, thanks, yeah, Kontio also commented on this and closed the request. I actually searched before posting but didn't find that one. Thanks again. BR, Ruediger On 01/10/2014 09:45 AM, Reto Zingg wrote: > Hi, > > On 10.01.2014 10:36, Ruediger Gad wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I agree as well. >> Hav

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Reto Zingg
Hi, On 10.01.2014 10:36, Ruediger Gad wrote: Hi, I agree as well. Having a quicker way to check at least simple requirements would greatly improve the developer experience as well as the work of the testers at Harbour. I filed a request about this at together.jolla.com: https://together.jolla.c

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Ruediger Gad
On 01/10/2014 09:32 AM, Kalle Vahlman wrote: > 2014/1/10 Andreas Enbacka : >> I would like to agree with Franck on this. I have also partly held off >> developing for SailfishOS due to e.g., the Harbour process, as well as due >> to APIs my apps need to are not allowed. > > This seems backwards; i

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Jukka Eklund
That's right! You can get your app into eg. openrepos.net, and there is a store app now for Sailfish too: https://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Kalle Vahlman wrote: > 2014/1/10 Andreas Enbacka : > > I would like to agree with Franck on this. I have also

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Ruediger Gad
Hi, I agree as well. Having a quicker way to check at least simple requirements would greatly improve the developer experience as well as the work of the testers at Harbour. I filed a request about this at together.jolla.com: https://together.jolla.com/question/13023/harbour-toolautomatism-for-qui

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2014/1/10 Andreas Enbacka : > I would like to agree with Franck on this. I have also partly held off > developing for SailfishOS due to e.g., the Harbour process, as well as due > to APIs my apps need to are not allowed. This seems backwards; if no cool apps exist for SailfishOS that use certain A

Re: [SailfishDevel] Howto ship QML plugins for harbour

2014-01-10 Thread Reto Zingg
Hi, On 09.01.2014 12:39, dcali...@free.fr wrote: Hello, I need to ship two system QML plugins with my app for it to validate the harbour recommendations. How can I do this ? Let's take the example of QtPositioning lets take an other example ;-) https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-qml-plu

Re: [SailfishDevel] Jolla Phone crashes with no mobile network available

2014-01-10 Thread Jani Kotakoski
Dear all, I have observed something perhaps related after the last update: My Jolla becomes unresponsive to the point of requiring a reboot almost always when I move from an area with a WLAN connection to cell-only connection and vice versa (eg. when ever leaving home or entering home). The scre

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour QA process...

2014-01-10 Thread Andreas Enbacka
I would like to agree with Franck on this. I have also partly held off developing for SailfishOS due to e.g., the Harbour process, as well as due to APIs my apps need to are not allowed. I think that in case Jolla wants developers to focus on developing native apps for SailfishOS, many improvme