Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Daniel Stone wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 03:51:05PM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter "Firefly" Lund wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now the

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Marc Aurele La France wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter "Firefly" Lund wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonabl

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Peter \"Firefly\" Lund
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Thomas Dickey wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter "Firefly" Lund wrote: > > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: > > > > > When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were > > > disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. > >

ftp/anoncvs server problems

2003-10-26 Thread David Dawes
The server that hosts the XFree86 anoncvs, ftp, and cvsweb services died on Saturday morning. Most other services, like the mailing lists and the web site, should be unaffected. David -- David Dawes Founder/committer/developer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes __

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter "Firefly" Lund wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonable, in my op

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
David Dawes wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 02:34:02PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Thomas Dickey wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to b

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
David Dawes wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Michel Dänzer wrote: Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by developers that have been with the project for over two years are certainly part of the problem. Err, this is about bug triage

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread David Dawes
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 12:37:29PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >Michel Dänzer wrote: >>>Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by >>>developers that have been with the project for over two years are >>>certainly part of the problem. >> >> Err, this is about bug triage, wh

Re: newbie question

2003-10-26 Thread Matthieu Herrb
david mancel wrote (in a message from Thursday 23) > Hello all, > > i have a question about Xfree internals. > > i would like to know how xfree "capture" the keyboard and mouse events. Is > it with a simple "read" ? And does it rely on the OS? Yes, it's basically a read from the proper dri

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Craig, Craig Groeschel wrote: I'm afraid your rants and threats won't do much good there though. Great. Shoot the messenger. (btw, No one is ranting or threatening. Just being lucid and assertive. IMHO.) Thanks for your support. I have tried, and failed on occasion, to maintain my composure

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 03:51:05PM -0700, Marc Aurele La France wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter "Firefly" Lund wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: > > > When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were > > > disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to be committed. It is a waste of my time and an insult that I am made to do well, when yo

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter "Firefly" Lund wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: > > When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were > > disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. > Err... No. > He was quite reasonable, in my opinion. O

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Peter "Firefly" Lund wrote: > On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: > > > When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were > > disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. > > Err... No. > > He was quite reasonable, in my opinion.

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are > specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to be > committed. It is a waste of my time and an insult that I am made to do well, when you graduate and (pr

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread David Dawes
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 02:34:02PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >Thomas Dickey wrote: > >> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >> >> >>>Seriously, I don't know why I waste my time submitting patches that are >>>specific to my platform and then wait up to three weeks for them to be >>>c

Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Michel DÃnzer wrote: Well, you know, XFree86's disregard for offers to help made by developers that have been with the project for over two years are certainly part of the problem. Err, this is about bug triage, which you can do just as well as everybody else. No, this is about my submitting Cygw

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Craig Groeschel
> I'm afraid your rants and threats won't do > much good there though. Great. Shoot the messenger. (btw, No one is ranting or threatening. Just being lucid and assertive. IMHO.) I have noticed a lot of drama and negativity on this list too. I don't have experience with other free software pro

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 - Staying or leaving XFree86.org? [Was: Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?]

2003-10-26 Thread Peter \"Firefly\" Lund
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, David Dawes wrote: > When I discussed this with you privately a while ago all I got were > disrespectful and insulting responses. Now there is more of the same. Err... No. He was quite reasonable, in my opinion. -Peter ___ Devel

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 19:53, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > Michel DÃnzer wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 17:13, Egbert Eich wrote: > > > >>Marc Aurele La France writes: > >> > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to. I am, and, I > >> > believe, so is Egbert. > >> > >>No, not cur

Re: Cygwin/XFree86 Bugs?

2003-10-26 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an ML anyone can subscribe to. I am, and, I >> > believe, so is Egbert. >> >> No, not currently. I usually go to the web interface and >> look at the open bugs, process new ones that can be handled >> quickly, o