On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 10:57 +0200, drago01 wrote:
Well in gnome 3.2 (which should be out for F16) extensions will be
like firefox extensions i.e you go to extensions.gnome.org and click
install to install an extension.
Distro packaged extensions are frowned upon upstream.
So, just so I
Folks,
We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
Fedora Activity Day today Friday August 26th 2011, at 14:00UTC (10:00
Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate
the continued bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point).
Previously, we
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
To participate, visit the following link:
http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/fedora-arm/f15hardfp/bootstrap/rootfs_stage4_20110825/
Follow the instructions contained within the readme file to extract the
uboot, boot, and root archives
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
To participate, visit the following link:
http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/fedora-arm/f15hardfp/bootstrap/rootfs_stage4_20110825/
Just a quick update that we've had mock builders running around the
clock and that, at last count we had
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 19:13 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Jon Masters j...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
To participate, visit the following link:
http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/fedora-arm/f15hardfp/bootstrap
On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 12:56 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
More to the point, your DPI numbers would be per-output anyway, so
there's no picking a single point size preference, the same size in
pixels would be different sizes in millimeters on each output.
In fairness, for my dual head setup I
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:54 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 11:46 -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
Grovelling around in the F15 xorg-server sources and reviewing the Xorg
log file on my F15 box, I see, with _modern hardware_ at least, that we
do have the monitor geometry
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 16:20 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:14:56AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
How about EDID as it exists today. Since you're able to so beautifully
explain what the pitfalls are, I'd assume you've raised this with the
VESA and asked
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 12:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 11:14 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:54 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
EDID does not reliably give you the size of the display.
How about EDID as it exists today. Since you're able to so
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 13:19 -0500, Chris Tyler wrote:
The ARM Secondary Arch project[0] is working on an F15 release for the
existing armv5tel architecture as well as the new armv7hl architecture
(with hardfp ABI). This effort has been previously announced and is
ongoing. A number of minor
Folks,
Can someone please push the update that I made (with permission) to
shared-mime-info? I'm getting jcm does not have commit access when I
try to make the F16 update. This fix is required to actually be able to
play many MP3 files (including all purchased from Amazon.com) on F16.
Tested
Hi Bastien,
Thanks for your help with this. I'm glad a fix is in upstream now.
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 11:12 +, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 14:36 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
Folks,
Can someone please push the update that I made (with permission) to
shared-mime-info? I'm
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 15:37 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
I believe any MP3 file containing a uits tag will be affected. This is
the Unique Identifier Technology Solution, which appears to be
required by a number of media distributors. Therefore, I believe (but
have not confirmed yet
Folks,
Anyone interested in an or1ksim package for Fedora? If so, I could throw
something together based on upstream trunk. None of the current releases
(even the RC) are able to run the orpsoc model correctly with the latest
upstream kernel, due to the assumption of support for tap network
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 13:39 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
Would an 8[1] month cycle cause fewer slips per release? Fewer bugs?
Personally, I'd like to see a 9-12 month cycle. Much as I'm sure
everyone out there instantly upgrades every system the moment a new
release comes out, and doesn't mind a
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 18:35 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 15:48:14 -0700,
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Meanwhile, back in the real world, it is effectively impossible to use
all sorts of useful websites without Javascript enabled. Even for
Then
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 02:32 -0400, Naveen Kumar wrote:
Can we use .swf files to develop open source applications?
I strongly doubt that this is a good idea. There are non-Adobe runtimes,
but to get most of the good stuff you need to lock into their one. It's
much worse than trying to get a
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 11:46 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
I mentioned this on:
http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/
Nice. This is cool. Perhaps one of the TG folks here can also whip out a
prototype web page view of apps, with a logo having a screenshot a la
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 13:06 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
There is a web app store in PackageDB, which seems to have all of this:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/
yes, I know.
And you'll notice that the pkgdb can generate a sqlite db of tags and
ranking info that yum can use if the
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 16:55 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 03:46:11AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
The lesser of 2 evils is no solution. Only NO evil at all will keep the
user's freedom. Users should NEVER use proprietary software, be it as
JavaScript or using a
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 20:10 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
I know its been discussed in the past but there's been reasons not to
drop a default MTA but now that cronie (the last actual dependency)
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:54 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
Whatever we do please make it an option NOT to have any window splat
on the screen anywhere - let it stay in the system tray and not
interfere with my work.
It gets worse. I frequently come back to a desktop on which my
girlfriend
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 20:37 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 03:15:11PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
What's the benefit of having no default MTA at all? Is it that Desktop
users don't care about MTAs being installed? what about those of us who
care more about server
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:09 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:58:50AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Why are you complaining? If your package needs an MTA - put in a Requires!
If we follow the general state of things: if a package might need
something, toss it in as
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:36 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:19 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
My previous objection was based on the precedent it sets. I don't want a
Desktop distribution in Fedora. I want a server-usable distribution.
Sure, it's just a dep and one
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 15:16 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de said:
On Tue, 24.08.10 15:55, Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) wrote:
This is a very big change. chkconfig has worked for a long, long time. Its
elegance and simplicity is one
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 17:54 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 22:52 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 05:43:49PM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
that seems like a bit of odd logic. The logs are emitted to syslog with
the same thought in mind - that someone
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 02:44 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jeff Garzik wrote:
Isn't network needed for people who don't run NetworkManager?
The idea is that everybody should run NM. :-)
When it works reliably in all situations. I get a choice. Usually, I
will have NetworkManager installed on a
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 07:23 +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
I have an MTA installed because I expect to get emailed logs, and root@
does go somewhere. Now, there are a couple of things I should admit:
1). I
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 12:20 +0200, Christof Damian wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 23:06, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Till Maas wrote:
If they like a faster bootup, then yes, they will. And I as a
workstation user like it.
[citation needed]
I asked
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 17:06 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
I reboot virtual machines all the time, certainly 100 times a day
would not be unusual on a work day.
Not an argument for or against systemd BTW, just an observation that
how you use your computer is not how others use their
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 18:37 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:31:30AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
[...@constitution ~]$ uptime
09:28:22 up 24 days, 16:32, 9 users, load average: 1.17, 0.50, 0.37
So you're running an insecure kernel? Our security churn is bad
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 10:08 +, Matej Cepl wrote:
With the old network service it was still possible to manually use
iwconfig and wpa-supplicant and therefore WPA. Or to create a OpenVPN
tunnel, which I would prefer more than using WPA in terms of security.
But with NetworkManager
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 11:17 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
Great. It works fine on a laptop, in general. But on a
desktop/server/workstation that is connected for weeks at a time (like
mine), I don't want to have to do
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:51 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Paul W. Frields wrote:
My hunch is that a couple thousand a week are probably due to cable
modems or laptops moving to addresses we simply haven't seen before.
That's about how many new IPs appear for Fedora 7 or Rawhide each
week.
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 17:54 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 16:37 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
Ah yes, attack the symptom and not the disease. Yay. Let me let you in
on a secret. Most people (and by which I mean, those not on this list)
generally don't like re
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 15:23 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
Again, I feel it is necessary to have a survey of Fedora users.
Preferably annually. And listen to the feedback. If they say yep, we
just love the churn, the number of updates and so forth, then fine. If
they say actually we'd like less
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 15:47 -0700, Bob Arendt wrote:
I think it would be much better for Fedora to decide what it *should* be,
specifically what the Fedora userspace should be, and excel at that.
Don't follow the market or worry about being the most popular distro
(unless that's really a goal
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 18:39 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 15:23 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
Again, I feel it is necessary to have a survey of Fedora users.
Preferably annually. And listen to the feedback. If they say yep, we
just love the churn, the number of updates
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 18:00 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010, Jon Masters wrote:
But I feel it is design by committee now, just the Open Source
version. A small group of people (f-d-l and similar) arbitrarily decide
what the userbase wants without asking them, and based
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 17:00 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:52:30 -0400
Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
So I'm filing another FESCo ticket as I type this. They can decide
to reject my proposal again, in which case I will bring it up with
the Fedora Board
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 09:03 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
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On 08/28/2010 09:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jesse Keating wrote:
The cynic in me would expect that the people who want something different
than the fire hose we have now are silently
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 21:56 +0200, Sven Lankes wrote:
As I've said, on systems not directly connected I just don't bother
doing updates ever. I suspect before too long some effort will get
formed to do a more stable version of Fedora
Don't we already have that in F n-1?
Even that isn't
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 12:36 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
We had a distro that was pretty general purpose, worked for servers
and desktops and even laptops. We had a predictable schedule.
It's called Laissez-faire meets reality. Right now we have a lot of
free market philosophy in Fedora that
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 23:11 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
Now, if we Fedora should be a distribution that developers enjoy using,
there will be an updates firehose - and most developers won't mind too
much. If Fedora should be a distribution that developers can install on
their grandparents'
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 19:52 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:30:44PM -0700, darrell pfeifer wrote:
I've moved from being a rawhide junkie to a koji junkie. I've been in that
mode for the last five or six years. My experience has been that rawhide is
most unstable just
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 18:58 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:11:06PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
What Fedora advertised is ..., Features, First - that's a developer's
distro; Fedora was never M million happy users, growing X% annually.
For what it's worth: the
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 23:56 -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Gerald Henriksen ghenr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:11:06 +0200, you wrote:
A typical developer wants the dependencies of the software they are
working on to be _very_ up to date -
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 22:47 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 22:33 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
Where do you see somebody proposing that no updates be issued? Where do
you see somebody proposing a setup where fixing a graphics card can't be
done in the stable release
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 18:18 +0200, Michal Hlavinka wrote:
On Tuesday, August 31, 2010 17:39:11 Jesse Keating wrote:
On 8/31/10 6:57 AM, Michal Hlavinka wrote:
there's no reason why 1.8 won't be ok after 2-3 weeks in updates-testing
An update that changes behavior for the end user would
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 13:45 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 20:41 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
Great stuff. And there's more in there too. So the current User_base in
addition to being not very well linked and referenced could hardly be
described as reflecting all of the views
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 16:57 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
I was participating in the Systemd Fedora Test Day and installed the
latest Fedora 14 build. I found a few problems (I will file bugs) but
before I file a bug about NetworkManager, can someone please tell me how
I'm supposed to configure
On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 12:55 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 17:00 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 16:57 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
I was participating in the Systemd Fedora Test Day and installed the
latest Fedora 14 build. I found a few problems (I
Folks,
Just did an install of rawhide from today using mirrors.kernel.org and
F14-Alpha installer media for the Anaconda runtime.
1). There is no default runlevel
2). I'm dropped into a confused shell on boot.
3). User accounts such as root are not recognized after init 3
4). init 5 starts gdm
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 16:23 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
1). There is no default runlevel
2). I'm dropped into a confused shell on boot.
3). User accounts such as root are not recognized after init 3
4). init 5 starts gdm and I can then login as normal.
It might just be broken deps
Folks,
I was going to file an automated bug report, but it wants to file
against 15, which doesn't exist, rather than Rawhide (which obviously
does). I can email and ask for a version 15 to be added to Bugzilla,
etc. but is that the solution, or should ABRT be always realizing to use
rawhide and
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:09 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 22:33 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
I really don't see the point. A forced vote is not better than no vote
(can easily be worse). As far as I know in most countries actual laws
are passed by whoever is present in
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 14:04 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Nils Philippsen said the following on 09/15/2010 03:28 AM Pacific Time:
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 17:13 -0700, John Poelstra wrote:
Shouldn't ABRT be looking to a file like /etc/fedora-release to
determine the release version?
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 21:54 -0500, inode0 wrote:
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
btw, I think Kyle said earlier he's standing aside. So does that mean
there now is a new FESCo election?
No, FESCo has policies in place to deal with this situation
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 12:41 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 13:20 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 11:05 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
The Broadcom position seems to be entirely crack-inspired, if it's based
on the notion that a binary driver
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 16:53 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 10:34 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote:
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Jon Masters
jonat...@jonmasters.orgwrote:
Well, the US law of the land
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 12:26 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
The question I have for the abrt folks, is there any code that would
lead to a bug being filed for rawhide? If so, how is that code triggered?
I believe they claimed it was through parsing for Rawhide in the
release string value. I think
Hello,
I know, systemd got reverted for F-14. But unless I missed something,
the plan is/was to keep it the default for F-15, and in rawhide. This
means the package dependencies need to be different in rawhide please.
Jon.
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On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 00:11 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
I know, systemd got reverted for F-14. But unless I missed something,
the plan is/was to keep it the default for F-15, and in rawhide. This
means the package dependencies need to be different in rawhide please.
Obviously, I just added
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 14:18 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
While upstart is still in the repo, the initscripts package now pulls
in systemd and systemd-sysvinit.
Hey, thanks Bill.
Jon.
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On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 14:54 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
2010/9/20 Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com:
On 09/20/2010 01:37 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:56:56 +0200
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
You can blacklist the firewall modules - it can be critical :)
Actually, I
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 20:57 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
W dniu 20 września 2010 20:47 użytkownik drago01 drag...@gmail.com napisał:
2010/9/20 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
W dniu 20 września 2010 20:03 użytkownik drago01 drag...@gmail.com
napisał:
Why?
The file is obsolete
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 21:58 -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
2010/9/20 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
2010/9/21 Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com:
As the concept of using third party repositories (both as packagers and as
users) grows, this interdependence will grow.
Ok, so maybe
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 00:29 -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:58:53 -0400, you wrote:
2010/9/20 Micha? Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
Ok, so maybe it's time to setup Fedora backports repo for these that
wants new and shiny Firefox 4, PostgreSQL 9 or whatever with big
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 10:59 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote:
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On 09/21/2010 07:20 AM, Brandon Lozza wrote:
One thing I wanted to point out. Windows users get to install the
latest Firefox, KDE, and other apps without having
Folks,
On current rawhide (perhaps caused by upgrade from F14 beta), I'm
getting a few weirdly broken icons for notification applets. Those
applets then crash when moused over or clicked on with a SEGV that looks
to be caused by it not finding the correct icon (I did file an ABRT bug
last night
Folks,
It would seem that systemd employs some kind of arbitrary timeout (30
seconds?) by default and will log operation timed out. Terminating if
things take longer than this time to start up. I would like to know how
to increase this timeout, or to (preferably) disable it entirely.
Certain
On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 17:39 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Comparing the Ubuntu 10.04 DVD installer (which I use a couple of weeks
ago) to Fedora 13 DVD installer is like comparing the Cessna to a Boeing
747.
Sure, both can accomplish the same task. Read: transporting people from
one airport to
On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 12:51 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:44:49 -0500,
Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
I think that is a misfeature. I don't want anything irreversible to be
done
until I say go.
You know that Fedora has done partitioning/mkfs
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 16:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 01:13 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Petr Lautrbach wrote:
systemd will be default init system in Fedora 15 and scripts
infrastructure will be adapted to it. There is a plan to leave upstart in
Fedora as
On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 08:43 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 01:36:43AM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 11/06/2010 12:21 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 03:16:11PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com)
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 16:09 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 11/09/2010 10:05 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 08:43 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 01:36:43AM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 11/06/2010 12:21 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote
On 11/01/2012 11:08 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
- I built openmpi 1.6.3 in rawhide yesterday. This had an unexpected bump in
the libmpi_f90.so soname. I know this affects hdf5 and netcdf-fortran, both
my packages and I'll be rebuilding them later today (hopefully).
On that, I've made a
On 12/05/2012 02:39 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
I can't make the meeting. It conflicts with the Board meeting.
Current items on the agenda:
1) Current Problem packages
2) F18 ARM VFAD - additional feedback, blockers?
3) Ownership of non-release blocking images (Beagleboard XM, etc)
Who
On 12/05/2012 04:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
Three things:
1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as well)
is a fine example of something
On 12/06/2012 01:00 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 22:25 -0600, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
On 12/05/2012 03:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
Three things:
1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
On 12/07/2012 12:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 10:40:13AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
We could draw them between Core and Extras!
:) Note that just because we got rid of Core doesn't mean that it was a
bad idea. Ubuntu even adopted a Core of their own a while back. Maybe
On 12/06/2012 10:38 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
People are annoyed to go to different bugzilla to report bugs, people
are annoyed to go to different shops to shop for stuff ( as seen by the
success of amazon, or even itunes, etc ), so why would it make sense to
have a different way depending
On 12/09/2012 03:32 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
snip
Having one repo and refusing commercial software are 2 different issues.
Really, they're not though. The problem is that stuff is shipped
in-distro and builds deps on core packages, and those packages are
revved in a symbiotic relationship
Hello,
This week's Fedora ARM status will take place today (Wednesday, Dec
12th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. I will run the meeting as Paul
is out sick today. Please ping with additional topics on IRC also.
Times in various time zones (please let us know if these do not work on
an ongoing
Hello,
This week's Fedora ARM status will take place today (Wednesday, Dec
12th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. I will run the meeting with
Brendan as Paul is on PTO today. Please ping us on #fedora-arm with
additional topics on IRC also. I will be at the dentist soon, so Brendan
may start the
Hi everyone,
I would like to share the minutes from yesterday's Fedora ARM meeting.
In particular, those on devel@ might be interested in our desire to
discuss PA at FUDCon. At FUDCon, we will have a 24 node Calxeda
EnergyCore (highbank) server that will demonstrate various capabilities
of the
Always was done with yaboot. Do we know if OLPC will move to UEFI?
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Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com
To: Development discussions related to Fedora
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 11:09 +0100, Harald Hoyer wrote:
I would like to follow debian and add a tmpfs to /lib/init/rw , which would
serve as a transition from initramfs to real root for files from daemons,
which
need to transition from initramfs, like mdmon, dmeventd, rpc.statd, etc.
FYI,
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:45 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
As part of no frozen rawhide, we'll have a new tree on the mirrors,
pub/fedora/linux/development/13 That's where we'll be putting things
that are tagged for the release after they get through testing. We
don't yet have a clever name for
Folks,
What's up with the login screen on rawhide these days? It's defaulting
to no longer listing available users. I can see security sensitive
reasons for this, but it's a behavior change - is it intentional?
Jon.
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On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 07:51 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le lundi 22 février 2010 à 19:05 -0800, John Reiser a écrit :
On 02/22/2010 03:07 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
There is much worse - it does not let you set the keyboard layour
anymore, so anyone in a non-qwerty locale will have a
Folks,
It seems most days now something breaks and I want to debug it, but then
have to debuginfo-install. Is there a way to tell yum to always pull in
the corresponding debuginfo packages whenever it installs something?
Jon.
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Folks,
I just did a SPARC install (thanks to Dennis for the assistance too) and
elected only for a very minimal install. I then decided to add GNOME
bits just to see what worked for curiosity. I did an yum install
gnome-desktop, thinking this would pull in nautilus, etc.
I don't think this is a
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 02:44 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
I just did a SPARC install (thanks to Dennis for the assistance too) and
elected only for a very minimal install. I then decided to add GNOME
bits just to see what worked for curiosity. I did an yum install
gnome-desktop, thinking
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 21:07 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Jesse Keating wrote:
Ok... removing deprecated uses is a questionable at best update, but
here is the kicker. The perl in F11 is perl-5.10.0-82.fc11. So these
functions aren't actually deprecated in F11. So... why
Folks,
I will propose this to FESCo through their normal channels.
My proposal is that we create a Fedora User Survey and create a link
on the fp.o website with a few very simple questions. One of those
questions would be what users think about the current update policy,
using plain (and as
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 12:26 -0500, Luke Macken wrote:
I think a much better solution would be to require similar critical path
policies, across *all* releases, not just pending ones, while still
allowing non-critpath packages to go directly to stable.
That is an acceptable fallback. But just
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 14:01 -0500, Luke Macken wrote:
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 01:48:42PM -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 12:26 -0500, Luke Macken wrote:
I think a much better solution would be to require similar critical path
policies, across *all* releases, not just
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:30 -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
Now, there's a reasonable argument that says that Fedora users without
FAS accounts didn't vote for FESCo, so it's still legitimate to ask
*those* users what they think. The impossibility of reaching such a
group of users without
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