Kernel 2.6.34 for F13?

2010-08-19 Thread Reindl Harald
-vm form "updates-testing" kernel-2.6.33.6-147.2.4.fc13.x86_64 kernel-2.6.34.2-34.fc13.x86_64 -- Mit besten Grüßen, Reindl Harald the lounge interactive design GmbH A-1060 Vienna, Hofmühlgasse 17 software-development / cms-solutions p: +43 (1) 595 3999 33, m: +43 (676) 40 221 40 icq: 15

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.07.2011 23:51, schrieb Farkas Levente: >> So there's my long ass explanation of why VMs on Btrfs suck. I'm >> sorry, I'm aware of the problem and I'm trying to fix it, but it's a >> slow going process. > > if you said that this's the current state of btrfs than it's not ready > as a default

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.07.2011 23:54, schrieb Michael Cronenworth: > Farkas Levente wrote: >> if you said that this's the current state of btrfs than it's not ready >> as a default fs for f16. so please postpone it at least to f17. > > If f16 gets kernel 3.1 (or backported stuff into 3.0), IMHO there is no > re

Re: BTRFS: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

2011-07-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Eric Sandeen: >> bleeeding edge / modern technology is not the same as dangerous defaults >> unstable / unfinsihed packages should never be default in GA nor replace >> existing and over a long time well working things - never! > > You might have said the same thing

thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-15 Thread Reindl Harald
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=253031 * Fri Jul 15 2011 Doug Ledford - 3.2.2-5 - Merge rawhide mdadm to f15. Rawhide changelog preserved even though - the referenced versions do not exist in f15, rawhide specific builds - are from 3.2.1-1 through 3.2.2-4 FYI: works on my F1

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.06.2011 09:43, schrieb Andreas Schwab: > Karel Zak writes: > >> The 'bind' flag is another way how to achieve that the filesystem is >> mounted on another place. Nothing other. >> >># mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/A >># mount --bind /mnt/A /mnt/B >> >> is the same thing as: >> >># moun

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.07.2011 16:56, schrieb Miloslav Trmaè: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> the new dumb behavior BREAKS LOCATE, > I did update mlocate to handle the removal of /etc/mtab data in F15, > and it seems to work fine for me. Please file a proper bu

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.07.2011 19:11, schrieb Kalev Lember: > On 07/19/2011 07:30 PM, Petr Sabata wrote: >> I put Obsoletes (not Provides) in there and in seemed to make no difference. >> cpupowerutils update or clean cpupowerutils installation don't remove >> cpuspeed >> from the system. > >> Obsoletes: c

Re: Heads up: cpuspeed removed from f16+

2011-07-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.07.2011 19:43, schrieb Jesse Keating: > On 7/19/11 10:39 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> and why not simply "cpuspeed"? > > Unversioned obsoletes can lead to tricky situations should the package > ever come back into the distro hm not if both packages updated

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.07.2011 22:06, schrieb Doug Ledford: > On 07/15/2011 05:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=253031 >> >> * Fri Jul 15 2011 Doug Ledford - 3.2.2-5 >> - Merge rawhide mdadm to f15. Rawhide changelog preserved even

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.07.2011 17:47, schrieb Karel Zak: >> the new dumb behavior BREAKS LOCATE, displays thousands of things >> in "df", gives wrong error-messages for normal users if named >> is running as chroot and should be REVERTED / FIXED > > FIXED, not reverted. The old behavior (mtab) had many other >

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.07.2011 00:18, schrieb Jeff Spaleta: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> sorry, but this does not intesrest endusers > > please don't speak for me if YOU like it that "df" is showing BIND-MOUNTS mixed up with "permission denied

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.07.2011 01:19, schrieb Jeff Spaleta: > But you really need to reset your expectations, and develop a roll out > plan for your critical systems that anticipates unexpected changes in > behavior between OS releases. where did i say anything about critical systems? getting dumb cron-mails ab

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.07.2011 13:14, schrieb Bryn M. Reeves: > On 07/20/2011 11:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> hopefully systemd will aslo live for 40 years as sysvinit >> did or the next replacement will be finished BEFORE release >> including the correspondending parts of the distrib

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.07.2011 20:51, schrieb Jeff Spaleta: > is there a problem with bind mount handling? Yes Was it caught in > testing? Seems like it wasn't. Does Fedora make any effort to test > bind mounts as part of organized pre-release QA? I'm not aware that we > do as our pre-release QA is quite narrowl

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.07.2011 23:03, schrieb Jeff Spaleta: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Karel Zak wrote: >>> because >>> really that is exactly what you want to do on your system. If our >>> mount command will still attempt to write to /etc/mtab once its a real >>> file again, maybe things will work fo

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.07.2011 23:04, schrieb Karel Zak: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 08:09:08AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: >> /proc/mounts does not seem to distinguish bind mounts - so this may >> have to be a kernel change and perhaps adding /proc/mounts/bind and >> moving bind mounts 1 level down - this is n

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2011 00:39, schrieb Karel Zak: > * bind mounts are represented as /A -> /B dependence, reality is > /A -> device, /B -> device (and /A could be umounted, moved, ...) this is not generally true look below [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ umount /Volumes/dune/www-servers umount: /Volumes/dune/www-ser

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2011 09:31, schrieb Tomas Mraz: > On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 23:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 21.07.2011 23:04, schrieb Karel Zak: >>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 08:09:08AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: >>>> /proc/mounts does not seem to d

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2011 04:01, schrieb Doug Ledford: > They have some valid reasons for wanting to avoid the risk of rendering > machines inoperable or insecure because something didn't start and while making a dist-upgrade to F16 where the whole system is changed comes a helping angel or god himself hold

Re: F15: ugly behavior of "df"

2011-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2011 10:24, schrieb Karel Zak: > I hope that umount(8) in Fedora-17 will support --recursive option well, more important is to fix it generally for F15 who is responsible for that? where should a bugreport filed? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailin

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2011 16:33, schrieb drago01: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 21.07.2011 13:14, schrieb Bryn M. Reeves: >>> On 07/20/2011 11:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>>> hopefully systemd will aslo live for 40 years as

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2011 19:16, schrieb drago01: > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 22.07.2011 16:33, schrieb drago01: >>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 2

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2011 19:38, schrieb Steve Clark: > I know it is very frustrating to me when stuff that worked now all of sudden > doesn't > because somebody decided that we have better, faster, newer way of doing > things so lets > do it! > > Sound in fedora a few years ago under went this exact sc

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.07.2011 23:18, schrieb Michal Schmidt: > On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 19:48:29 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: >> and the same guy who pushed "pulseaudio" in a total unuseable state >> to fedora instead finish his work and push it after that does is >> the maintainer of

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.07.2011 00:17, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > I'd like to suggest: > > a) Please avoid getting personal, stick to technical arguments/issues. it is not my intention to get personally and hurt anybody as person, really! i try to get borked things fixed which i can not fix by myself and had to l

software-design in the past and now

2011-07-23 Thread Reindl Harald
first i changed the topic because it does not fit anly longer to this thread Am 23.07.2011 03:41, schrieb Adam Williamson: > On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 13:38 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> in the past there were real developers which was able to > > ah, the True Scotsman rears

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.07.2011 21:59, schrieb Marc-André Lureau: > I don't understand the security risks. If something is allowed to > write to ~/.local/bin (or ~/bin etc..), then surely it's able to read > elsewhere or do something else nasty. Could someone detail it? Depends on the PATH-Order if something is

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 27.07.2011 23:00, schrieb Jesse Keating: > On 7/27/11 1:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Depends on the PATH-Order >> >> if something is intended to be first in PATH and any attacker is able >> to write there his "ls" would win against "/bin/ls" &

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.07.2011 15:34, schrieb Marian Ganisin: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:36:08AM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote: >>> c) there's a spec about ~/.local/bin already accepted by a friendly >>> project >> >> This is STILL a security risk, even if somebody calls it a standard. > > This is STILL a claim wi

koji: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15

2011-07-29 Thread Reindl Harald
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=256138 does this mean that F15 will get a rebased 2.6.40 sooner or later in stable repos to avoid troubles with the new versioning and will not stuck at 2.6.38 the whole life cycle? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- d

Re: koji: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15

2011-07-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.07.2011 19:39, schrieb Josh Boyer: > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=256138 >> >> does this mean that F15 will get a rebased 2.6.40 sooner or >> later in stable repos to avoid troub

Re: koji: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc15

2011-07-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.07.2011 04:16, schrieb Dave Jones: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 01:16:43AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > i have running 2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64 #1 SMP in my testing-virtual-machine > since > > some minutes, boot looked fine, after a minute a got a btrfs-stack-trace

Re: Rapid DHCP

2011-07-31 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.07.2011 12:17, schrieb David Woodhouse: > On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 16:37 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> IIRC connman (i.e. NM's competition) can do the ARP magic, too. > > I don't think so. ConnMan doesn't remember the last DHCP setup at all, > and doesn't even set the DHCP_REQUESTED_IP

Re: Multilib issue with wine on rawhide

2011-08-07 Thread Reindl Harald
have you made a "yum update" before? multilib and updatestesting or rawhide is a bad idea if you want to avoid such toubles which are clear if you have installed a old x86_64 and install of i686 package requires the same as dependencie in i686 - multilib only works with identical package versions

Re: Fedora 15 and mount points

2011-08-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.08.2011 00:43, schrieb Tom H: >> Seems this is a known *feature* of F-15 and no one is all that interested in >> changing it. Unfortunately, I have a good number of scripts that use the >> output of df and mount that would need modified for this. The /var/tmp >> mount is especially troub

Re: Fedora 15 and mount points

2011-08-12 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 12.08.2011 17:00, schrieb Tomasz Torcz: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:46:27AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> I thought that their outputs, especially that of findmnt, would've >>> clarified the output of mount, except for the three sandbox bind >>> mounts

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.08.2011 16:50, schrieb Richard Hughes: > On 19 August 2011 13:35, Steve Grubb wrote: >> All security guidance says turn off or get rid of avahi. We really don't >> want to >> require it just to print. > > Then "security" is flying in the face of usability this is always so, nearly every

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.08.2011 17:47, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > Well, I think Fedora is more interested in real-life users than synthetic > certifications well, when will you start to fix the usability-faux-passes you brought for the normal users? the last systemd update is long ago * no feedback of system

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.08.2011 18:46, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Fri, 19.08.11 18:00, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > > Heya, > >> * no feedback of systemctl and wrong from /sbin/service-wrapper > Like most Unix commands systemctl will not output anything in case

systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? F15 is SEVEN versions behind! sometimes it seems nobody cares about GA-Releases to have arguments updating to the next as soon as possible where all will be better and the things which are

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2011 04:50, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Tim Waugh wrote: >> Oh, I just noticed this: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activation >> "Since Fedora currently doesn't want any services to do on-demand >> loading, all socket activated services must autosta

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2011 14:09, schrieb Lars Seipel: > On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 00:13 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> if you can give a warning you can also stop the socket >> this is what the user expects and if your software-design >> is not able to act logically it is broken >

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2011 19:58, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Sat, 20.08.11 16:25, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > >> WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares >> about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? >> >> F15 is SEVEN version

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2011 20:49, schrieb Michał Piotrowski: > 2011/8/20 Reindl Harald : >> >> Am 20.08.2011 19:58, schrieb Lennart Poettering: >>> On Sat, 20.08.11 16:25, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: >>> >>>> WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.08.2011 22:07, schrieb Jon Ciesla: > Ignoring the pace at which this discussion is approaching incivility, in > what way would bleeding-edge updates to systemd address any of the above? > For games, many would argue the pushing the latest and greatest to every > release is good. I might agr

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 21.08.2011 23:09, schrieb Steve Clark: >>> Read the part about "Parallelizing Socket Services". It explains why >>> socket actviation is interesting, >> I find a secure OS interesting. Bootup speed does not matter much to me. >> >> -Steve > Obviously a lot on this list value boot up speed over

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.08.2011 16:36, schrieb Jon Ciesla: > >> >> Am 21.08.2011 22:07, schrieb Jon Ciesla: >>> Ignoring the pace at which this discussion is approaching incivility, in >>> what way would bleeding-edge updates to systemd address any of the >>> above? >>> For games, many would argue the pushing the

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.08.2011 23:01, schrieb Tom Callaway: > On 08/22/2011 04:41 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> I'd vote for simply making this an implementation detail of the >> package. I.e. if a package gets the permission to enable its service by >> default it's up to it whether it wants to be started at b

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.08.2011 23:58, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:15:38 +0200 > Reindl Harald wrote: > >> >> >> Am 22.08.2011 23:01, schrieb Tom Callaway: >>> On 08/22/2011 04:41 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>>> I'd vote for simply mak

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.08.2011 15:36, schrieb Jon Ciesla: >>> Fedora? Production? I do that, but I'm mental >> >> yes - from F9 to F14 this was really easy >> VMware-Cluster with snapshots, some backup-machines as test >> all machines using the same internal cache-repo and no external >> >> per server 4-6 minut

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.08.2011 15:04, schrieb Simo Sorce: > I fail to see any reason why you would want to socket-activate a > database. Either you need the database, so it should start asap, or > don't because systemd as shipped with F15 CAN NOT make sure that if it means "i have started mysql" mysqld is ready

Re: Default services enabled -> there is no problem with mysqld

2011-08-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.08.2011 23:28, schrieb Tom Lane: > Yeah. Another way in which socket activation is not transparent is that > code might try to determine whether the service is running by seeing > whether a connection attempt succeeds. well if you have enabled the service and a listening socket it is th

Re: Default services enabled -> there is no problem with mysqld

2011-08-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.08.2011 19:36, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Wed, 24.08.11 10:45, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> >> Reindl Harald writes: >>> Am 23.08.2011 23:28, schrieb Tom Lane: >>>> there's no other way for "mysqladmin ping" to work,

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.08.2011 20:40, schrieb Adam Williamson: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 19:59 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Wed, 24.08.11 10:05, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: >> FWIW, I do think that there may be use-cases for socket activation of a database. I'd like to support

libtool rebuild required for updates-testing

2011-08-29 Thread Reindl Harald
currently "updates-testing" offers GVV 4.6.1 (thank you!) but "libtool" needs a rebuild for dependencies this time the rebuild runs on my testing-VM to rebuild all my packages later on this machine with new GCC, but this should also be in "updates-testing" signature.asc Description: OpenPGP dig

Fwd: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache HTTP Server 2.2.20 Released

2011-08-31 Thread Reindl Harald
grading or installing this version of Apache, please bear in mind that if you intend to use Apache with one of the threaded MPMs (other than the Prefork MPM), you must ensure that any modules you will be using (and the libraries they depend on) are thread-safe. -- Mit besten Grüßen, Reindl Harald

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache HTTP Server 2.2.20 Released

2011-08-31 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.08.2011 19:31, schrieb Paul W. Frields: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 05:39:14PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> this update should be really fast pushed out >> >> the demo-exploit brings down a 4x2.50GHz machine with 8 GB >> RAM in some seconds without having

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Apache HTTP Server 2.2.20 Released

2011-08-31 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.08.2011 22:09, schrieb Paul W. Frields: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 08:28:20PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 31.08.2011 19:31, schrieb Paul W. Frields: >>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 05:39:14PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >>>> this update shou

Re: Will we finally get firefox 6.0.1???

2011-09-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.09.2011 23:52, schrieb Joshua C.: > Can someone finally rebuild firefox 6.0.1 for fedora? The browser is a > critical part of everyone's system today and I really don't understand > why such software isn't updated when needed to because xulrunner is updated and the version does not matter?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-03 Thread Reindl Harald
the alpha was release and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd is at 0% - why will F16 released WITHOUT making the system clean which should have been done for F15 How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit(lsb in the distribution exist until the OS can be called as

Re: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd

2011-09-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.09.2011 02:20, schrieb Tom Lane: > Kevin Kofler writes: >> Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 07:46, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: >>>> How many releases will this dirty mix of systemd/sysvinit(lsb in the >>>> distributi

Re: How to debug X lockup (advice from gurus wanted)

2011-09-06 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 06.09.2011 13:10, schrieb Adam Jackson: > On 9/1/11 5:05 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > >> Hmmm, turning off SMP is not realistic, as this laptop has a Core 2 Duo. > > Sure it is. Boot with maxcpus=1 on the kernel command line i would recommend "nosmp" because it really disables the kernel-sm

Re: Compiling 32bit on 64bit Fedora

2011-09-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.09.2011 18:18, schrieb drago01: >>> Am I doing something wrong? Or is this a packaging bug? I can't think of >>> any reason why I shouldn't be able to compile at least a basic C program >>> with no deps as 32bit on 64bit. >> >> it's worth noting a 'cleaner' way to do this than messing up yo

Re: [systemd-devel] question

2011-09-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.09.2011 21:41, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > thanks for this information , could I update systemd to systemd-35 in > Fedora 15 with rebuilding the src.rpm , I don't get in trouble ? or we > have some restrictions ? > > I we don't have restriction why systemd Fedora packager don't update > them o

Re: [systemd-devel] question

2011-09-13 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.09.2011 23:25, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 23:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 13.09.2011 21:41, schrieb Sérgio Basto: >>> thanks for this information , could I update systemd to systemd-35 in >>> Fedora 15 with rebuilding the src.

Re: [systemd-devel] question

2011-09-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 13.09.2011 23:58, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > On 09/14/2011 02:59 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: >> So Fedora guys what you are waiting for ? update systemd please , should >> I open a report in bugzilla ? > > I can explain each of your examples but since systemd upstream developer > is also the Fedo

Re: [systemd-devel] question

2011-09-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.09.2011 06:52, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: > It is a small number of people repeating bringing up high risk and > frankly silly ideas like updating to a major new version of a core > component in a update without sufficient justification for taking that > risk if fedora has a problem with updat

Re: [systemd-devel] question

2011-09-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.09.2011 14:16, schrieb "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson": > And FYI to all those that gloriously want to upgrade and claim that it's > bug free or "they" ( all of what two people ) not encountered any issues > inetd-style socket activation is borked in .35 ( users need to downgrade > to .34 or add

easy-karma: what is the "FAS Password"?

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Comment? -1/0/1 -> karma, 'i' -> ignore, other -> skip> 1 Comment> works for me Warning: Authentication error FAS Password for root: i do not find any information here what is "FAS Password" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Easy_Karma -- Reindl Harald t

Re: easy-karma: what is the "FAS Password"?

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.09.2011 16:34, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:02:54 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > Comment? -1/0/1 -> karma, 'i' -> ignore, other -> skip> 1 > Comment> works for me > Warning: Authentication error > FAS Password for root: > > i do

Re: easy-karma: what is the "FAS Password"?

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.09.2011 17:03, schrieb Michal Schmidt: > On 09/26/2011 04:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Your Fedora Account System account password >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ >> >> is it OK to register here only for the use of "easy-karma" because

Re: Need systemd unit file help.

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.09.2011 18:32, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > My question to you: why are these modules built at boot time at all? Why > not at install time? Seems like the more appropriate time to me, given > that the set of kernel packages does not change during boot, but only at > install time. because

Re: Need systemd unit file help.

2011-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.09.2011 21:54, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> normally the kmod-packages are updated the same time >> as the kernel in stable repos, but you can not guarantee >> this for external repos everytime, especially that the >> mirror you catched is re

Restart=always and "ExecStartPre"

2011-09-29 Thread Reindl Harald
hi why does systemd not restart a killed service if the "ExecStartPre"-process is still running, see below - at my opinion after "killall afpd" the service should be restarted and in a perfect case even if "ExecStartPre"-process dies systemd-26-10.fc15.x86_64 ___ [root@te

Re: wrong dependencies building perl-SOAP-WSDL

2011-10-04 Thread Reindl Harald
thank you for your feedback! Am 04.10.2011 15:33, schrieb Petr Sabata: > On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 02:39:42PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> hi >> >> has anybody an idea why this package can no longer be used on F15 >> from F11 until F13 there was no problem >

F15: massive problems with USB3.0

2011-10-07 Thread Reindl Harald
hi i have two machines with the same USB3 card and massive problems with two different external disks - should this be a bugreport for the kernel? i am wondering about this troubles because AFAIK the linux-kernel was first with support for USB3 and that 2 different disks and/or both controllers ar

Re: PA 1.0 for FC16?

2011-10-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.10.2011 19:34, schrieb Tomasz Torcz: > On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 12:23:04PM -0500, Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) wrote: >> It might be better to make a case to bend the rules for PulseAudio and have >> it included in Fedora 16. It could be problematic if more programs have >> issues like wine where th

Re: PA 1.0 for FC16?

2011-10-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.10.2011 21:40, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:14:50 -0500 > Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >> On 10/08/2011 01:15 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> If Ubuntu is doing a better job than us of shipping an updated >>> version of OUR OWN FEATURE, we're failing very badly. >>> >>> What

Re: PA 1.0 for FC16?

2011-10-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.10.2011 22:36, schrieb Peter Robinson: > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> Short question: >> PA 1.0 was released ~1 month ago. >> According to the wine developers, the updated mmdevapi layer (the wine >> layer that emulates the Windows sound system)

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-08 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.10.2011 23:43, schrieb Christoph Wickert: > Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora > is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable > release and breaks Firefox horribly: > * My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing tha

Re: Firefox on Fedora: No longer funny

2011-10-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.10.2011 12:50, schrieb Christoph Wickert: >> Which extensions are you talking about? The ones I use never caused an >> such issues. > > For example mozilla-adblockplus or chatzilla, also German language packs > or dictionaries. use adblockplus from the mozilla-extensions page works fine w

Re: Help with systemd service files

2011-10-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.10.2011 20:27, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > Unless really necessary please drop After=network.target. Applications > that just bind on 0.0.0.0 don't need to synchronize on the network. more general as question to the topic: how we do know exactly if they really bind to 0.0.0.0 if the use

Re: Help with systemd service files

2011-10-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.10.2011 23:52, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > systemd guarantees you that 0.0.0.0 and 127.0.0.1 are always bindable > (and the IPv6 equivalents, too). To ensure this we'll actually configure > the loopback device very very early at boot already thank you for the information this can relax

Re: Building cpufreq modules into F16 kernel is it right or wrong?

2011-10-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.10.2011 14:17, schrieb alekc...@googlemail.com: > Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > >> On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 22:40 +0300, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: >>> Frequency scaling have negative effects for me >>> so I need to have it disabled in BIOS. >> What negative effects does frequency scaling h

Rwhide: Last Kernel not booting in vmware

2011-10-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Linux rawhide.vmware.local 3.1.0-0.rc9.git0.0.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 5 14:37:47 this is the last kernel booting in vmware for me all following see screenshot -- Mit besten Grüßen, Reindl Harald the lounge interactive design GmbH A-1060 Vienna, Hofmühlgasse 17 CTO / software-development

Re: Rwhide: Last Kernel not booting in vmware

2011-10-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.10.2011 12:45, schrieb Josh Boyer: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > Linux rawhide.vmware.local 3.1.0-0.rc9.git0.0.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 5 > 14:37:47 > > this is the last kernel booting in vmware for me > all following see screenshot Make

F15: subversion 1.7 / kdesvn

2011-10-25 Thread Reindl Harald
this out before pushing updates to stable subversion: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=752 kdesvn: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=2200 -- Reindl Harald the lounge interactive design GmbH A-1060 Vienna, Hofmühlgasse 17 CTO / software-develop

Re: F15: subversion 1.7 / kdesvn

2011-10-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.10.2011 10:50, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> but with subversion 1.7 the format in teh working directory >> is changed and the kde-kontextmenu will no longer offer >> display of history and missing some other entries >> http://subversion.apache

Re: irqbalance doesn't balance well x86_64 Fedora 16

2011-10-29 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.10.2011 22:04, schrieb Lucas: > I do not understand why it places i915, eth0 and snd_hda_intel on the same CPU > uname -a = 3.1.0-1.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Oct 24 12:18:13 UTC 2011 x86_64 > x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Any thoughts? because it is useless to speard on all present cores with

unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald
it seems there is a bug but i can not figure out in which component if i try to connect with the full-qualified hostname it says name or service not known, without the domain it works because it is in "resolv.conf" this does not affect ssh, seems to be global the following apache-reverse-proxy to

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.11.2011 16:37, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Fri, 04.11.11 15:28, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > >> [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ ssh root@centos.vmware.local >> ssh: Could not resolve hostname centos.vmware.local: Name or service not >> known

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-04 Thread Reindl Harald
window beginning with the "systemctl ACTION service" instead "systemctl SERVICE action" while i laughed over years about apples order of this in their systemadmin and got this now on linux too Am 04.11.2011 17:30, schrieb Michal Schmidt: > On 11/04/2011 05:06 PM, Rein

Re: unsure for wich component file bugreport

2011-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.11.2011 18:17, schrieb Michal Schmidt: > On 11/04/2011 06:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> well, everytime i come in contact with anything from apple i could throw >> something out of the window beginning with the "systemctl ACTION service" >> instead &qu

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.11.2011 01:50, schrieb Orion Poplawski: > On 11/04/2011 05:39 PM, Ian Malone wrote: >> On 4 November 2011 17:23, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Ian Malone wrote: If I filed every bug in the distro in upstream I'd have a dozen different bugzilla accounts by now. >>> >>> So what? Maintain

Re: reporting bugs

2011-11-05 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.11.2011 20:18, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> yes - because most maintainers are having bugzilla-accounts upstream >> and reading the uptream-mailing-lists and are much more cooperative as >> the KDE SIG, especially Kevin Kofler > > Yes, we have

Re: libmysqlclient soname version bumped by upstream

2011-03-23 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.03.2011 14:54, schrieb Tom Lane: > Jaroslav Reznik writes: >> Hmm, seems like the problem is - mysql is already in updates-testing [1], I >> thought there was one bundled update for all deps planned. > > Yeah, I submitted an update request a couple days ago without realizing > that it shou

Re: Firefox 4 for f14?

2011-03-24 Thread Reindl Harald
arballs is a bad idea. Whenever an > RPM exists, using that RPM is almost always the better plan. > > Kevin Kofler > -- Mit besten Grüßen, Reindl Harald the lounge interactive design GmbH A-1060 Vienna, Hofmühlgasse 17 CTO / software-development / cms-solutions p

Re: Firefox 4 for f14?

2011-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2011 17:07, schrieb Ralf Ertzinger: > Hi. > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 13:16:41 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >>> We do have a rolling release, it's called rawhide. >> >> You are mixing up "rolling release" with "development" dump yard. > > I'm not yet conviced that there is a significant

Re: Firefox 4 for f14?

2011-03-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.03.2011 17:12, schrieb Reindl Harald: > and in the backrgound i try to build a firefox4-package based > on the remi-srpms with target /opt to get both running without > change my whole browser and get lost most extensions and themes what fails and i could spit mozilla in the fac

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