On Monday, July 13, 2020 2:59:24 AM MST Joe Orton wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 02:27:49PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > There's no reason to "update" any config, php-fpm is just an alternative
> > option. mod_php still works well, and doesn't need to be replaced by those
> >
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 10:59:24AM +0100, Joe Orton wrote:
> > It'd be as simple as accepting ngompa's PR, here:
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/php/pull-request/4
>
> Remi has rejected the PR. There is really nothing more to discuss here,
> and I cannot really see you are making a
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 02:27:49PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> There's no reason to "update" any config, php-fpm is just an alternative
> option. mod_php still works well, and doesn't need to be replaced by those
> currently using it. It's still supported by the upstream, is still widely
On Saturday, July 11, 2020 3:14:06 PM MST Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:11 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
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> > None of this is relevant ... (to) ... a package which is ...
> > widely used, however.
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>
> You keep making that assertion. Please provide
> the audited
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:11 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> None of this is relevant ... (to) ... a package which is ...
> widely used, however.
You keep making that assertion. Please provide
the audited numbers from a reputable source(*).
(*) Preferably for sites that actually are more than
On Saturday, July 11, 2020 11:47:30 AM MST Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On 11/07/20 01:44 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> >I said that php-fpm was fast than mod_php, however it's just not a huge
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> When?
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> I see the opposite claim, repeatedly:
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> On 10/07/20 18:38 -0700, John M. Harris
On 11/07/20 01:44 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
I said that php-fpm was fast than mod_php, however it's just not a huge
When?
I see the opposite claim, repeatedly:
On 10/07/20 18:38 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
They've been running just fine for years. I don't see any reason to lose
On Saturday, July 11, 2020 1:34:12 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 7/11/20 1:09 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > It's demonstrably false that php-fpm "saves hundreds" of milliseconds,
> > unless you're counting up every single saved ms over the course of a
> > server's runtime. It's not really
On 7/11/20 1:09 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
It's demonstrably false that php-fpm "saves hundreds" of milliseconds, unless
you're counting up every single saved ms over the course of a server's
runtime. It's not really faster than mod_php, except in cases where opcache is
used, and you can
On Friday, July 10, 2020 11:45:06 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 7/10/20 10:55 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > I demonstrated how it adds ~1ms to requests. That's one of the major
> > downsides to using FastCGI, and it's unavoidable.
>
>
> You didn't demonstrate anything, you made an
On 7/10/20 10:55 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
I demonstrated how it adds ~1ms to requests. That's one of the major downsides
to using FastCGI, and it's unavoidable.
You didn't demonstrate anything, you made an unsubstantiated claim. Did
you even look at the link that was given? Regardless
On Friday, July 10, 2020 9:41:48 PM MST drago01 wrote:
> On Saturday, July 11, 2020, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:43:59 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:38 PM John M. Harris Jr
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:31:08 PM MST
On Friday, July 10, 2020 7:12:50 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 10:05 PM John M. Harris Jr
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> > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:56:36 PM MST Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
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> > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 1:50 AM John M. Harris Jr
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On Saturday, July 11, 2020, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:43:59 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:38 PM John M. Harris Jr
> > wrote:
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> > > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:31:08 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
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> > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 10:05 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:56:36 PM MST Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 1:50 AM John M. Harris Jr
> > wrote:
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> > > Why should I have to switch the system that's being used, and potentially
> > >
On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:56:36 PM MST Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 1:50 AM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
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> > Why should I have to switch the system that's being used, and potentially
> > break these servers, just because a package isn't being compiled anymore?
> >
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 1:50 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> Why should I have to switch the system that's being used, and potentially
> break these servers, just because a package isn't being compiled anymore? It
> still works, and it works very well. It has less overhead than php-fpm, even!
>
On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:43:59 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:38 PM John M. Harris Jr
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> > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:31:08 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
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> > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:26 PM John M. Harris Jr
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:38 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:31:08 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:26 PM John M. Harris Jr
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> > > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:14:27 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
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> > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020
On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:31:08 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:26 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
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> > On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:14:27 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
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> > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:59 PM John M. Harris Jr
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 9:26 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:14:27 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:59 PM John M. Harris Jr
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> > > On Friday, July 10, 2020 5:56:31 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
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> > > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020
On Friday, July 10, 2020 6:14:27 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:59 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
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> > On Friday, July 10, 2020 5:56:31 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
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> > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:55 PM John M. Harris Jr
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On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:59 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Friday, July 10, 2020 5:56:31 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:55 PM John M. Harris Jr
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> > > On Thursday, May 28, 2020 12:53:26 PM MST Ben Cotton wrote:
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On Friday, July 10, 2020 5:56:31 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:55 PM John M. Harris Jr
> wrote:
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> > On Thursday, May 28, 2020 12:53:26 PM MST Ben Cotton wrote:
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> > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/drop_mod_php
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> > > == Summary ==
> > >
On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 8:55 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Thursday, May 28, 2020 12:53:26 PM MST Ben Cotton wrote:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/drop_mod_php
> >
> > == Summary ==
> > mod_php (apache2handler) is an optional httpd module to execute PHP
> > scripts, not used.
> >
On Thursday, May 28, 2020 12:53:26 PM MST Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/drop_mod_php
>
> == Summary ==
> mod_php (apache2handler) is an optional httpd module to execute PHP
> scripts, not used.
>
> == Owner ==
> * Name: [[User:Remi| Remi Collet]]
> * Email: remi at
Le 04/06/2020 à 19:42, Carl George a écrit :
> I think it would be a better idea to move mod_php (the software) to a
> literal mod_php subpackage that is marked as deprecated [0].
Sorry, but I won't do that.
Never.
We are focusing since ever to provide proper configuration
working out of the
I think it would be a better idea to move mod_php (the software) to a
literal mod_php subpackage that is marked as deprecated [0]. As the
deprecation policy states, this would allow the package to be kept around
for compatibility purposes prior to being outright removed at some point in
the
On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 07:47:12PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:05:01 AM MST Joe Orton wrote:
> > On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:13:35AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 03:53:26PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > >
> > > > ==
On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:05:01 AM MST Joe Orton wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:13:35AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 03:53:26PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >
> > > == Detailed Description ==
> > > By default php-fpm is used for a few versions.
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:13:35AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 03:53:26PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > == Detailed Description ==
> > By default php-fpm is used for a few versions. mod_php is not
> > supported for threaded modules. mod_php usage also
Le 30/05/2020 à 11:13, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek a écrit :
> Is mod_php a maintainance burder and/or a noticable installation
> overhead when not used? And if it is, would additional help with the
> maintainance that was offered make it easier to keep?
Its maintainance is not much work, the
On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:14 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
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> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 03:53:26PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > == Detailed Description ==
> > By default php-fpm is used for a few versions. mod_php is not
> > supported for threaded modules. mod_php usage also increases
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 03:53:26PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> == Detailed Description ==
> By default php-fpm is used for a few versions. mod_php is not
> supported for threaded modules. mod_php usage also increases security
> risk, sharing the same process than httpd.
>
> Drop mod_php from php
On Friday, May 29, 2020 1:24:30 AM MST Igor Raits wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 01:00 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > On Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:59:41 PM MST Remi Collet wrote:
> >
> > > Le 29/05/2020 à 06:15, John M. Harris Jr a écrit :
> > >
> > > > Please do not drop mod_php. It is
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On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 01:00 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:59:41 PM MST Remi Collet wrote:
> > Le 29/05/2020 à 06:15, John M. Harris Jr a écrit :
> >
> > > Please do not drop mod_php. It is NOT the case that "php-fpm
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 4:01 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> On Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:59:41 PM MST Remi Collet wrote:
> > Le 29/05/2020 à 06:15, John M. Harris Jr a écrit :
> >
> > > Please do not drop mod_php. It is NOT the case that "php-fpm is already
> > > used but most users of httpd
On Thursday, May 28, 2020 11:59:41 PM MST Remi Collet wrote:
> Le 29/05/2020 à 06:15, John M. Harris Jr a écrit :
>
> > Please do not drop mod_php. It is NOT the case that "php-fpm is already
> > used but most users of httpd and nginx without any issue."
>
>
> php-fpm is the default
Le 29/05/2020 à 06:15, John M. Harris Jr a écrit :
> Please do not drop mod_php. It is NOT the case that "php-fpm is already used
> but most users of httpd and nginx without any issue."
php-fpm is the default configuration for httpd and nginx for few versions
nginx ONLY uses php-fpm
mod_php is
On Thursday, May 28, 2020 12:53:26 PM MST Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/drop_mod_php
>
> == Summary ==
> mod_php (apache2handler) is an optional httpd module to execute PHP
> scripts, not used.
>
> == Owner ==
> * Name: [[User:Remi| Remi Collet]]
> * Email: remi at
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