Re: Notes from a Planning Session

2008-04-11 Thread John Gilmore
(APs in infrastructure mode) is what is happening on the ground mostly. Still, it's not good as it kills the mesh-to-the-school scheme which is one of the key technical goals. This should be easy to fix. Re-enable the NetworkManager code that allows any laptop to gateway the mesh to the

Re: [OLPC library] Lieutenant Governor Pat Quinn on HB5000

2008-04-11 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:10:45 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was been strong Etoys experiment going in Illinois, especially at Columbia College and UIUC. Excellent. Can you point us to some groups or

Re: Notes from a Planning Session

2008-04-11 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:28 AM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (APs in infrastructure mode) is what is happening on the ground mostly. Still, it's not good as it kills the mesh-to-the-school scheme which is one of the key technical goals. This should be easy to fix. Re-enable

Re: Notes from a Planning Session

2008-04-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/4/11 Carol Lerche [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thank you for sharing this discussion. Upon reading it I had two questions. Sugar. I have seen offers on this list from a class ofuniversity graduate students to do usability testing. Maybe someone responded to them privately. (That would have

Re: Chilling Effects paper at USENIX UPSEC

2008-04-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 3:08 AM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. It is unfortunate that a respected conference did not do a better job at vetting this paper. I don't know who wrote the response that you are replying to, John, but I for one welcome both the paper and broader

Re: Usability testing

2008-04-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Carol Lerche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your reference argues not to start with usability tests before doing a design. This is not what I suggested, since sugar as a design is largely complete at this point. The article also. dismisses usability testing as

Re: Usability testing

2008-04-11 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Carol Lerche wrote: | A good example is the rococco color picking widget. According to my | observation this is very difficult for small children to use, and to learn. Perhaps you would care to look at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Toolbars#11

lease.sig file format oddities...

2008-04-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Scott, List, The cat-leases.pl script I posted yesterday doesn't work, and I am a bit lost. What libraries are being used for reading/writing those? As far as I can see, oddities are - the lease files that work are not strictly JSON, according to the strict Perl JSON parser and jsonlint -

Re: lease.sig file format oddities...

2008-04-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can see, oddities are And before I forget - python-json can read the files correctly - python-json cannot write files that work -- it does not match the whitespace format, and cannot be sorted I currently

Re: Get involved - Measure Activity on the XO

2008-04-11 Thread Andrew Burgess
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:48:27 -0700, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stereo output, mono input. Arghhh. So much value lost to save one wire and part of a chip The chip supports stereo. There was a post here a few weeks ago that explained how to bypass a broken mic input by reworking

Re: lease.sig file format oddities...

2008-04-11 Thread C. Scott Ananian
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware_Security http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware_Key_and_Signature_Formats http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Contents_manifest_specification http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Canonical_JSON http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/leases

Re: Usability testing

2008-04-11 Thread Walter Bender
And in point of fact, the new designs are in large part informed by observations made in the field over the past two years. There are many details, such as the color selector, that we have all agreed are far from the mark--many of these are documented in Trac, but perhaps a collector bug would be

Tickets for mesh problems

2008-04-11 Thread John Watlington
I'm trying to put together a list of open tickets relating to mesh behavior. Here is the list I think is mostly complete. Does anyone have a favorite mesh problem ticket that I missed ? Cheers, wad Mesh transport problems directly suspected as cause: 4153 - Connect to linklocal instead

Where did all the activities go?

2008-04-11 Thread Marcus Leech
I just updated from a 1700-series Joyride to Joyride 1855. There's no activity bar along the bottom of the home page. Help? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Making Plans

2008-04-11 Thread Michael Stone
Tomeu, Thanks very much for stepping up with such good questions. I'm sorry that I haven't got more in the way of answers, but here's what I've got: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 02:18:33PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: What is the process we are going to use to decide what should people be working

Wordsmith ( Scrabble ) :GSoC application

2008-04-11 Thread Aditya Vishwakarma
Hi, I am Aditya Vishwakarma. An Information Technology student at NSIT, Delhi. I am working on making a Scrabble game as a GSoC project called Wordsmith. The wiki page is located here - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wordsmith(scrabble) Scrabble is an highly enjoyable and social. And it puts real

Re: Where did all the activities go?

2008-04-11 Thread Eben Eliason
Marcus - You've grabbed a build in a bit of a transition period. It contains the basic implementation of the new designs, which you can review on the wiki at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Activity_Management. The toolbar in Home offers two views -- ring and list -- and the former displays

Re: Wordsmith ( Scrabble ) :GSoC application

2008-04-11 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Aditya Vishwakarma [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am working on making a Scrabble game as a GSoC project called Wordsmith. [...] Beware recent trademark/copyright enforcement efforts by the owners of the game name/concept. (google hasbro scrabble facebook). - FChE

Re: lease.sig file format oddities...

2008-04-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
Ahhh. Fantastic, thanks! What I will need here is the Canonical JSON writer from http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/olpc-contents;a=blob;f=bitfrost/util/json.py;h=04d513d48298e55eb5b6295b3edab51bc0b7f3dd;hb=HEAD cheers, martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server

Re: Wordsmith ( Scrabble ) :GSoC application

2008-04-11 Thread Aditya Vishwakarma
Charles Cossé [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might be interested to look at TuxWordSmith. It's a python code which plays scrabble in over 40 languages and was recently mentioned on this list. TuxWordSmith would be awesome. I have downloaded the source code and would review it out. I hope it

Re: [OLPC-Games] Wordsmith ( Scrabble ) :GSoC application

2008-04-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Aditya Vishwakarma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am Aditya Vishwakarma. An Information Technology student at NSIT, Delhi. I am working on making a Scrabble game as a GSoC project called Wordsmith. The wiki page is located here -

dropbox mechanism

2008-04-11 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hi! I want to include a new wireless firmware into joyride for testing (proper announcement will follow as soon as I find out how). It was suggested that I used the dropbox mechanism ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Build_system#Dropbox_Mechanism ). But the instructions are too succinct given my

networking scenarios

2008-04-11 Thread Dafydd Harries
This is something which was not completely clear to me until I talked to Wad about it the other day, and I think other people might find it useful. It should probably go on the wiki (assuming it isn't already there somewhere). I'd like some feedback about where it belongs. The closest thing I've

Re: networking scenarios

2008-04-11 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
Dafydd Harries wrote: This is something which was not completely clear to me until I talked to Wad about it the other day, and I think other people might find it useful. It should probably go on the wiki (assuming it isn't already there somewhere). I'd like some feedback about where it

Re: networking scenarios

2008-04-11 Thread Walter Bender
It depends upon what you mean. We have situations where even two laptops connected by simple mesh fail to properly transfer data. Then again, the failures also occur in the other 3 scenarios as well. -walter On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Question regarding joyride usb images

2008-04-11 Thread Samuel Klein
Good afternoon, You may also find bert's script a handy way to install the base activity pack: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bert's_script cheers, SJ On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:41 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may want to build a customization key as described in the wiki:

Re: dropbox mechanism

2008-04-11 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Friday 11 April 2008, Ricardo Carrano wrote: Hi! I want to include a new wireless firmware into joyride for testing (proper announcement will follow as soon as I find out how). It was suggested that I used the dropbox mechanism ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Build_system#Dropbox_Mechanism

Re: networking scenarios

2008-04-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Dafydd and all... _*Question:*_ I think that you mean that the school server has internet access. Is it possible to have a school server without internet access ? (just to do... what? bigger collaboration between the XOs? software repository? documents books repository?. Many scenarios

Re: networking scenarios

2008-04-11 Thread david
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dafydd and all... _*Question:*_ I think that you mean that the school server has internet access. Is it possible to have a school server without internet access ? (just to do... what? bigger collaboration between the XOs? software

Re: networking scenarios

2008-04-11 Thread Samuel Klein
Javier, The humble towns are most important. An aside : when I was last in New York (for the story jam a couple weekends ago) I saw a UNICEF poster display of a disaster-area school in a box -- two suitcase-sized containers with all of the materials and power-generators needed to run a single