candidate-765, Activities directory deleted while running Software Update

2008-09-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
While running software update for candidate-765 the Activities directory was deleted. This was not during the initial run of Software Update after booting on completion of olpc-update but when called from the control panel Note I had added http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Joyride to the

Re: semantic black ops for Activities? (Re: Greg Smith's Weekly Report)

2008-09-28 Thread S Page
Hey activity maintainers, I shrank the wasteful junky layout slightly and got rid of all the warning triangles for empty values. If you see any yellow triangles after updating your activity page, please let me know. The Template:Activity_page could omit altogether table rows that have no valu

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 25 Sep 2008, at 01:00, Martin Langhoff wrote: > From your experience are your newcomers accidentally or intentionally > launching too many Activities? Is it that they genuinely wanted to have N > activities all running a

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:57 PM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS: We don't even know the mem footprint of our activities. It all > gets jumbled up by Sugar and Security and other changes. Nobody > thinks the numbers in "top" are useful, nobody has any better way to > measure the "mem

Re: candidate-765, Activities directory deleted while running Software Update

2008-09-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
I think I tracked it down, will comment on the ticket. Thanks for the detailed description! Marco On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While running software update for candidate-765 the Activities > directory was deleted. > This was not during the init

Re: [sugar] rendering test

2008-09-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Ooops. cc'ing to some other people/list in the hope someone more knowledgeable than me will comment. Thanks, Tomeu On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Riccardo Lucchese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 12:43 +0200, Riccardo Lucchese wrote: >> * build 703, xorg driver = amd, redra

[Fwd: Re: Odd occurance when installing 764]

2008-09-28 Thread Aaron Konstam
Forwarded Message From: Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Odd occurance when installing 764 Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:28:49 -0500 On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 23:47 +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 27 Sep 2008, at 21:30, Aaron Konstam w

Re: [Fwd: Re: Odd occurance when installing 764]

2008-09-28 Thread Gary C Martin
On 28 Sep 2008, at 14:30, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Forwarded Message > From: Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Odd occurance when installing 764 > Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:28:49 -0500 > > On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 23:47 +0100, Gar

Re: [sugar] Signed candidate-765 and gg-765-2 builds available for testing.

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 3:47 AM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Stone wrote: >> I have decided to publish 8.2-765 as a signed Candidate [...] > sudo olpc-update 8.2-765 > led to > WARNING: You seem to be attempting to download an unsigned [...] > sudo olpc-update candidate-765 >

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any of these 76X builds signed ? There are a bunch of people here at > the Open Minds conference with XOs who'd love to test them, but they > don't have developer keys installed. candidate-765 is signed. Requesting dev ke

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Bastien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "C. Scott Ananian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/olpc_install_sugar_activities_usb.php >> >> Please ensure that your activities and content list matches >> [[Activities/G1G1]]. > > Do you mean th

Re: Please unlock Activities/G1G1/8.2

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The lock-down of this page (which causes lock-down of all included pages > transitively) was fine until Scott replaced the references to the 8.2 > versions of activities with the old G1G1 page. E.g., when the page was >

Re: 764 is imminent

2008-09-28 Thread Gary C Martin
On 26 Sep 2008, at 09:15, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:30 AM, Eben Eliason > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yup, we were getting several reports that kids accidentally pressed >> keys while at the Home screen (which auto-focuses the search >> field.).. > > Did we actu

Re: gcompris activities regression

2008-09-28 Thread Bruno Coudoin
Le samedi 27 septembre 2008 à 00:57 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti a écrit : > Unless someone find time to track it down I guess we will have to: > > 1 Downgrade libxml2 > 2 Rely on a gcompris fix/workaround. I just completed the step 2. The new release is uploaded, each activities and the full bund

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread david
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Any of these 76X builds signed ? There are a bunch of people here at >> the Open Minds conference with XOs who'd love to test them, but they >> don't have developer keys inst

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:31 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> Requesting dev keys should not be difficult! How can we fix that problem? > > one headache (at least from the initial G1G1 machines) was the inability to > do a cut-n-paste of the long k

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread Carol Lerche
Why not call it a "tester's key"? It is principally useful for testing late-breaking versions. On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:34 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:31 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > >> Reques

Re: [sugar] rendering test

2008-09-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Ooops. cc'ing to some other people/list in the hope someone more > knowledgeable than me will comment. Thanks. Please Cc me on posts like these to make sure I don't miss them. No, it doesn't bother me to receive 0.001% more mail. I've also Cc'd the Xorg list in case some

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 28.09.2008 um 09:38 schrieb Carol Lerche: > Why not call it a "tester's key"? It is principally useful for > testing late-breaking versions. IMHO a user doesn't even have to know there is a "key", let alone worry about its name. The "test" designation is a good one, so why not simply ha

New joyride build 2491

2008-09-28 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2491 Changes in build 2491 from build: 2489 Size delta: 0.13M -sugar-update-control 0.16-1 +sugar-update-control 0.17-1 --- Changes for sugar-update-control 0.17-1 from 0.16-1 --- + Trac #7845, #8681: don't die if ~/Activities doesn't

Re: gcompris activities regression

2008-09-28 Thread s . boutayeb
Bonjour Bruno, I have just installed the last release on a xo. The installation procesure with xoget failed, an I used the alternative with wget. The gcompris-activity runs well. However, if I try to launch an activity in the "letter"-group of activities, I get following error message: "Error: th

Re: Please unlock Activities/G1G1/8.2

2008-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 28.09.2008 um 07:59 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: >> The lock-down of this page (which causes lock-down of all included >> pages >> transitively) was fine until Scott replaced the references to the 8.2 >> versions

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread david
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Carol Lerche wrote: Why not call it a "tester's key"? It is principally useful for testing late-breaking versions. tester key or experimenter key would be better (although experimenter key may have implications that make it sound too attractive) David Lang On Sun, Se

Re: Feedback on Measure (was Re: Another pass through some basic Activity test results)

2008-09-28 Thread Arjun Sarwal
(have changed the subject line since we are drifting off topic from the previous subject ) Hi, On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:02 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26 Sep 2008, at 19:31, Arjun Sarwal wrote: > >> 2008/9/26 Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> >>> Here's a set of basic

Re: [sugar] rendering test

2008-09-28 Thread Riccardo Lucchese
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 18:46 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > >>> - joyride regressed sensibly at rendering with cairo since 703 > >>> - rendering pixbufs is extremely slow on the xo > >>> - server side surfaces are awesome ;) > >>> > >> and btw why is fbdev faster than the geode driver at rendering

Re: gcompris activities regression

2008-09-28 Thread Bruno Coudoin
Le dimanche 28 septembre 2008 à 19:36 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > Bonjour Bruno, > > I have just installed the last release on a xo. The installation procesure > with > xoget failed, an I used the alternative with wget. > > The gcompris-activity runs well. > However, if I try to launch

Re: Please unlock Activities/G1G1/8.2

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 28.09.2008 um 07:59 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: > >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> The lock-down of this page (which causes lock-down of all included pages >>>

Re: Please unlock Activities/G1G1/8.2

2008-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 28.09.2008 um 11:30 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: >> >> Am 28.09.2008 um 07:59 schrieb C. Scott Ananian: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> wrote: The lo

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
2008/9/28 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Carol Lerche wrote: > >> Why not call it a "tester's key"? It is principally useful for testing >> late-breaking versions. > > tester key or experimenter key would be better (although experimenter key > may have implications that make it sound

Major differences between releases

2008-09-28 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I think it would be a good idea for everyone (activity authors in particular) to cross-check the changes in what packages are included in the new stable release, in particular what packages are *going away*: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-8.2.html Also, is there any chance someo

Re: [sugar] rendering test

2008-09-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Riccardo Lucchese wrote: >> Was fbdev running with EXA or XAA? (does fbdev even support EXA?) > http://www.x.org/wiki/ExaStatus lists fbdev in the `Probably unsuitable > for EXA support' section; so, I guess XAA. Confirmed: there's absolutely no EXA code in xf86-video-fbdev. Too bad, it would h

Suggested change for Colors! to make quitting the activity work

2008-09-28 Thread Dan Krejsa
Hi, Here's a patch that seems to make quitting the Colors! (version 4) activity work on candidate-765. I don't know how this change would affect operation on older XO builds. ---8<-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Colors.activity]$ diff -u colors.py ../colors.py --- colors.py

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread david
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > 2008/9/28 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008, Carol Lerche wrote: >> >>> Why not call it a "tester's key"? It is principally useful for testing >>> late-breaking versions. >> >> tester key or experimenter key would be better (although exper

Re: Major differences between releases

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it would be a good idea for everyone (activity authors in > particular) to cross-check the changes in what packages are included > in the new stable release, in particular what packages are *going away*: > >

Re: [sugar] rendering test

2008-09-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Riccardo Lucchese wrote: >> >> I haven't tried to run oprofile on the xo yet (it is on my todo list). > > Be careful, there's a catch with jffs2: it does not support the writable > shared mmap that oprofiled needs. This

Re: [sugar] Signed candidate-765 and gg-765-2 builds available for testing.

2008-09-28 Thread S Page
Important: has anyone successfully upgraded/installed to the signed "candidate-765"? If so, someone can edit http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing/current_image_stream changing it from "8.2" to "candidate" and links and banners should work. C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008

Re: [Testing] [sugar] Signed candidate-765 and gg-765-2 builds available for testing.

2008-09-28 Thread Gary C Martin
OK, I can't really test the candidate-765 here. My B4 starts to secure boot (hold the X gamepad down), shows an SD card, then flashes what looks like a USB key in red a few times, then a wireless symbol, before telling me "activation lease not found - no se encontrò elpermiso de activiòn -

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-28 Thread Walter Bender
> So UI changes that help make this clearer will probably be a good idea > for a 9.1 ... :-/ There was an early sketch of a mechanism similar to the old Home View circle, where there was a space allocated to each open activity proportional to the amount of memory it was consuming. In any case, it

Re: [sugar] Another pass through some basic Activity test results

2008-09-28 Thread Walter Bender
Gary, this is a very helpful analysis. Thanks. Arjun, I wonder if Measure isn't exceptional in regard to when it is not in the foreground. I can imagine wanted to log data while doing other things: It isn't clear it should go idle when not visible. My naive guess would be to assume that a timer wer

Re: [Fwd: Re: Odd occurance when installing 764]

2008-09-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 03:21:49PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: > To Michael: Not sure who to direct this to, but should the post install > scripts do some extra checks for this potential upgrade fluff? Not sure > how many upgrades this could effect. What might we do with it if we found it? Mich

Re: Feedback on Measure (was Re: Another pass through some basic Activity test results)

2008-09-28 Thread Erik Blankinship
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:02 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 26 Sep 2008, at 19:31, Arjun Sarwal wrote: > > > >> 2008/9/26 Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> > >>> Here's a set of basic Activity test results for build 8.2-763, hope the > >>> ASCI > >>> art doesn't get to

Re: [Fwd: Re: Odd occurance when installing 764]

2008-09-28 Thread Gary C Martin
On 29 Sep 2008, at 02:06, Michael Stone wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 03:21:49PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: >> To Michael: Not sure who to direct this to, but should the post >> install scripts do some extra checks for this potential upgrade >> fluff? Not sure how many upgrades this could

Re: [Fwd: Re: Odd occurance when installing 764]

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29 Sep 2008, at 02:06, Michael Stone wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 03:21:49PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: >>> To Michael: Not sure who to direct this to, but should the post >>> install scripts do some extra checks

Re: [sugar] Signed candidate-765 and gg-765-2 builds available for testing.

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:45 PM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BUT! after I disabled my developer key and ran > sudo olpc-update candidate-765 > , my XO won't boot: >Trying nand:\boot\runos.zip > OS found - No signature for our key >Boot failed :-( Hmm, two bugs potentially he

Re: [sugar] Signed candidate-765 and gg-765-2 builds available for testing.

2008-09-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:04 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've installed it on a secured XO with a dev key (that's my usual > machine); I'll have to try turning security off. I mean, turning the *dev key* off. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ )

Re: New release8.2 build 764

2008-09-28 Thread John Gilmore
>> many people who would be good testers don't consider themselves 'developers' >> so would not get them on their own. > > Why not call it a "tester's key"? It is principally useful for testing > late-breaking versions. Now that the unfortunately popular iPhone ships with the same centralized- co

Re: devkeys, prettyboot, and G1G1

2008-09-28 Thread John Gilmore
> Requesting dev keys should not be difficult! How can we fix that problem? We could consider shipping the next G1G1 batch with developer keys already included ("disable-security"). The only reason any G1G1 user would prefer a lockdown laptop is because it won't do "pretty boot" if it's jailbr

New joyride build 2492

2008-09-28 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2492 Changes in build 2492 from build: 2491 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-toolkit 0.82.11-3.olpc3 +sugar-toolkit 0.82.11-4.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggr