Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Bobby Powers
2009/2/2 Tiago Marques : > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mitch Bradley wrote: >> >> Guess what? The people at OLPC, who aren't stupid, already considered >> every point in the message cited below, a long time ago. So why aren't >> we doing them? ...* *On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Carlos Naz

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-03 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 01:21, Wade Brainerd wrote: > There might be something in the Sugar Almanac, > see http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Resources for a link. > Alternately, an example of how to disable sharing is here: > http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/math/repos/mainline/blobs/master/mat

Re: readetexts and viewslides moved to git.sugarlabs.org

2009-02-03 Thread Gary C Martin
On 19 Jan 2009, at 17:28, Morgan Collett wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 17:52, Gary C Martin > wrote: >> On 19 Jan 2009, at 15:19, James Simmons wrote: >> >>> Over the weekend I updated Read Etexts and View Slides to be more >>> like >>> the current Read activity. Previously they only atte

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Wade Brainerd
A patch isn't really appropriate but generally speaking I: - Followed Mitch Bradley's instructions for tar-ing /dev. - Replaced the initrd with a 3 liner using busybox that just mounts NAND and calls switch_root. This involved undoing all the version stuff in the filesystem. - Replaced rc.sys

New joyride build 2640

2009-02-03 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2640 Changes in build 2640 from build: 2639 Size delta: 0.13M -libxml2-python 2.7.2-2.fc10 +libxml2-python 2.7.3-1.fc10 -glib2 2.18.3-2.fc10 +glib2 2.18.4-1.fc10 -gnome-themes 2.24.1-1.fc10 +gnome-themes 2.24.3-1.fc10 -gtk2 2.14.5-3.fc10

New joyride build 2640

2009-02-03 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2640 Changes in build 2640 from build: 2639 Size delta: 0.13M -libxml2-python 2.7.2-2.fc10 +libxml2-python 2.7.3-1.fc10 -glib2 2.18.3-2.fc10 +glib2 2.18.4-1.fc10 -gnome-themes 2.24.1-1.fc10 +gnome-themes 2.24.3-1.fc10 -gtk2 2.14.5-3.fc10

View Slides is in git.sugarlabs.org

2009-02-03 Thread James Simmons
Wade, The current View Slides sends the whole slideshow in a Zip file over the network. These slideshow Zip files can be 20-60 meg and I find that sharing files of that size just doesn't work. Worse, if the original file is still being shared it is impossible to resume a document you have r

Re: View Slides is in git.sugarlabs.org

2009-02-03 Thread Nate Ridderman
There was an email thread about problems with git.sugarlabs.org not long ago - see http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-January/011132.html. I was having the same problem and I sent an email to syst...@sugarlabs.org. I'm not sure if it was ever resolved for my account, because I have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-03 Thread James Simmons
Morgan, This is *exactly* what I was looking for, thanks. As a bonus I can get rid of the "keep" button as well, which is of no use to me. James Simmons Morgan Collett wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 01:21, Wade Brainerd wrote: There might be something in the Sugar Almanac, see http://s

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 36, Issue 12

2009-02-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:57:02 -0500 > From: Wade Brainerd > Subject: Re: OLPC upgrades > To: "C. Scott Ananian" > Cc: OLPC Devel > Message-ID: <377b4440-aad7-412c-b22b-16158d6f4...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > A patch is

Deployment Support Mtg -- Today, 2000 UTC, #olpc-deployment

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Stone
Hey folks, This is just to remind you that we'll be meeting at 2000 UTC today (3:00 PM Boston) in #olpc-deployment on irc.freenode.net to chat about deployment support topics. Detailed minutes from this meeting will appear at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings/200

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread S Page
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > Since you're looking at making a gentoo-based sugar distro, you might > find http://gitorious.org/projects/sugar-gentoo useful :) Please update http://sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Gentoo , which lists a similar overlay project

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:12 AM, S Page wrote: > Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >> >> Since you're looking at making a gentoo-based sugar distro, you might >> find http://gitorious.org/projects/sugar-gentoo useful :) > > Please update http://sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Gentoo , which > lists

Re: x11vnc and vncviewer for classroom

2009-02-03 Thread ggeist
Is this Anna Schoolfield from Central Alabama Mensa? Remember me? Gene Geist. Its been a long time so I wouldn't blame you. Anna-2 wrote: > > *My previous post turned up blank for some reason. Sorry about that. > Hopefully this works* > > From the original email by Arjun Sarwal: > >

Re: [Sur] Deployment Support Mtg -- Today, 2000 UTC, #olpc-deployment

2009-02-03 Thread Pilar Saenz
soporte de las implementaciones. Un detallado resumen de esta reunion aparecerá en http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings/20090203 los resumenes de las reuniones anteriores se pueden encontrar en http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings#Meeting_notes Si quiere tener una agenda, por

Re: [Sur] Deployment Support Mtg -- Today, 2000 UTC, #olpc-deployment

2009-02-03 Thread Pilar Saenz
es from this meeting will appear at > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings/20090203 > > alongside the minutes from previous meetings, which can be found at > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings#Meeting_notes > > If you'd like to have an agenda,

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM, wrote: > Ok, what tools can I use to satisfy you of this 'opinion' that > applications start faster on either KDE or GNOME than on Sugar on the same > hardware. > > by the way, you are the first person I have heard dispute this. Erik has done a few things lately t

Re: speeding up booting

2009-02-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > >> I have zero confidence that the approach they are taking will be >> effective on XO. >> > > After watching dsd bump into the busy-wait thing in the cafe-nand > driver [1]... I am coming to understand how di

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread david
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM, wrote: >> Ok, what tools can I use to satisfy you of this 'opinion' that >> applications start faster on either KDE or GNOME than on Sugar on the same >> hardware. >> >> by the way, you are the first person I have heard

Re: speeding up booting

2009-02-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > I have zero confidence that the approach they are taking will be > effective on XO. After watching dsd bump into the busy-wait thing in the cafe-nand driver [1]... I am coming to understand how different our hw profile is from the norm when

Re: speeding up booting

2009-02-03 Thread John Gilmore
> How about bundling them up and attaching them to the "Improve Startup > Speed" ticket http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4349 . That way all the > research that nobody does anything about because it diverges too much > from the blessed Fedora will all be in one place. One of Fedora 11's features i

Re: speeding up booting

2009-02-03 Thread Mitch Bradley
John Gilmore wrote: >> How about bundling them up and attaching them to the "Improve Startup >> Speed" ticket http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4349 . That way all the >> research that nobody does anything about because it diverges too much >> from the blessed Fedora will all be in one place. >>

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread david
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > da...@lang.hm wrote: >> the fact that KDE and GNOME (both desktops that are considered pigs on >> normal machines) make a XO laptop seem snappy by comparison to Sugar (as >> of December) means tha

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 da...@lang.hm wrote: > the fact that KDE and GNOME (both desktops that are considered pigs on > normal machines) make a XO laptop seem snappy by comparison to Sugar (as > of December) means that there is a significant problem with Sugar. I'm not happy

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Tiago Marques
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Bobby Powers wrote: > 2009/2/2 Tiago Marques : > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > >> > >> Guess what? The people at OLPC, who aren't stupid, already considered > >> every point in the message cited below, a long time ago. So why aren't > >

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread david
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Tiago Marques wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Bobby Powers wrote: 2009/2/2 Tiago Marques : On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mitch Bradley wrote: The current dual mode touchpad hardware is being discontinued and new machines are either currently, or will be in sh

Life in an insecure world

2009-02-03 Thread John Watlington
>>Background context: Right now, Quanta only ships laptops in one of two states: - security enabled - security enabled, and "pre-activated" Starting in a few weeks, the factory will only ship laptops in one of two configurations: - security enabled - security disabled The goal is to only ship l

Re: Life in an insecure world

2009-02-03 Thread James Cameron
I understand the issue and I agree with your decision. Protection against "rm -rf /" is not part of the security design. -- James Cameronmailto:qu...@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://li

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-03 Thread Bobby Powers
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:55 PM, wrote: > On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM, wrote: >>> Ok, what tools can I use to satisfy you of this 'opinion' that >>> applications start faster on either KDE or GNOME than on Sugar on the same >>> hardware. >>> >>>

Which wikipage lists activities for 8.2.1 ('staging') ?

2009-02-03 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
I'm confused as to which Activities are "mated" to 8.2.1. The subject came up before, when it was pointed out that wikipage Activities/G1G1 lists some newer activity versions than wikipage Activities/G1G1/8.2. Does that mean that wikipage Activities/G1G1 officially applies to the latest 8.2 (i