Re: Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-05 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:17 PM, John Gilmore wrote: >> I think that the addition of a new property in the activity.info file >> would be logical here. Make it an integer indicating the maximum >> number of supported participants. "Unshared" activities would report >> '1', activities like video c

Re: Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-05 Thread John Gilmore
> I think that the addition of a new property in the activity.info file > would be logical here. Make it an integer indicating the maximum > number of supported participants. "Unshared" activities would report > '1', activities like video chat (with technical limitations) or chess > (with obvious

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-03 Thread James Simmons
Morgan, This is *exactly* what I was looking for, thanks. As a bonus I can get rid of the "keep" button as well, which is of no use to me. James Simmons Morgan Collett wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 01:21, Wade Brainerd wrote: There might be something in the Sugar Almanac, see http://s

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-03 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 01:21, Wade Brainerd wrote: > There might be something in the Sugar Almanac, > see http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Resources for a link. > Alternately, an example of how to disable sharing is here: > http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/math/repos/mainline/blobs/master/mat

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > Happy to be proven wrong, and I guess it could be a Sugar feature not really > intended for XOs. Let's let the flowers bloom: I don't doubt that there are many ways to make *better* collaboration, on an activity-by-activity basis. But VNC is

Re: Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > Scott (CC'd) has already come up with some really nice proposals for > adding VNC as an alternate colaboration mechanism for all activities. > In my mind, this would work perfectly with the above scheme, whereby > any activity that already has

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Gary, I've used it for many years on machines much less powerful than the XO, often for an sshable net meeting with multiple participants, and I think you might need to do a few simple things to speed it up for yourself. (Remove fancy graphic backdrop, try for a smaller palette). These things are

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Gary C Martin
On 3 Feb 2009, at 01:02, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Eben Eliason wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz >> wrote: > In my mind, this would work perfectly with the above scheme, > whereby > any activity th

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > OK, but as an Activity author I might like to specify that cap at runtime, > depending on many things, such as the size of the document. ... start collaborating on an empty Write.xo doc, and shed participants dynamically as the documen

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz > wrote: In my mind, this would work perfectly with the above scheme, whereby any activity that already has max_participants in it could be viewed in that manner

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Eben Eliason wrote: >> I think that the addition of a new property in the activity.info file >> would be logical here. Make it an integer indicating the maximum >> number of supported

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: > I think that the addition of a new property in the activity.info file > would be logical here. Make it an integer indicating the maximum > number of supported participants. OK, but as an Activity author I might like to specify t

Re: Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Monday 02 February 2009 21:30:46 Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: > I'm guessing someone has already suggested this on some list or other, but > in my experience kids like to watch over each other's shoulder, and a > default collaboration of "everyone watches, one person types" vnc would in > my opini

Re: Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Eben Eliason
I think that the addition of a new property in the activity.info file would be logical here. Make it an integer indicating the maximum number of supported participants. "Unshared" activities would report '1', activities like video chat (with technical limitations) or chess (with obvious player li

Re: Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
I think this project often makes the perfect into the enemy of the good. Consequently we end up having less collaboration than, e.g., any system in the last 10 years that could install vnc server, while claiming that collaboration is a principal focus of the project. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Re: Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Wade Brainerd
I think some simplistic automatic collaboration being built into Sugar, has been discussed, possibly even prototyped. Just a matter of engineering motivation/time perhaps. -Wade On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: > I'm guessing someone has already suggested this on some l

Re: Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
I'm guessing someone has already suggested this on some list or other, but in my experience kids like to watch over each other's shoulder, and a default collaboration of "everyone watches, one person types" vnc would in my opinion be the 80 of a collaboration 80-20 rule. I think this ought to be i

Re: Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread Wade Brainerd
There might be something in the Sugar Almanac, see http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Resources for a link. Alternately, an example of how to disable sharing is here: http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/math/repos/mainline/blobs/master/mathactivity.py#line75 Note to Sugar toolkit guys, I'd love

Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

2009-02-02 Thread James Simmons
First, I want to praise whoever put together the Sugar packages for Fedora 10. After struggling with Xubuntu and with sugar-jhbuild on openSUSE I finally have a sugar test environment where everything seems to work! It was well worth wiping out my openSUSE install and starting over with a new