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Fw: muezzin
%CUSTOM_8 I forwa.rded the message inta ct so you could see all the titles. It's all bra -nd name soft-ware - like 70%/80% off. See you this weekend. N. Smiley ---Original Message--- From: Joey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:22:19 +0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: muezzin http://shrubberygnkd1li8xugndhy.jjrelatumjl.com M -icrosoft W_indows S oftware W__indows XP P. rofessional 69.95 W.indows XP P.rofessional With SP2 Full Version 79.95 W _indows 2000 P rofessional 59.95 W. indows 2000 A dvanced S_erver 69.95 W _indows NT 4.0 S-erver 49.95 W _indows NT 4.0 T -erminal S erver 49.95 W _indows M -illenium 59.95 W.indows 9.958 S econd E_dition 49.95 W -indows 98 49.95 W-indows 95 49.95 M _icrosoft O_ffice S-oftware O- ffice XP P rofessional 79.95 O. ffice 2000 P -remium E. dition PE (2CD) 59.95 O .ffice 97 SR2 49.95 O.ffice 2003 P. rofessional (1 CD Edition) 89.95 M__icrosoft Visio 2003 P.rofessional 69.95 F_ ileMaker 7.0 P rofessional 69.95 O ther M .icrosoft S _oftware MS Plus! XP 59.95 _ MS SQL S erver 2000 E__nterprise E_dition 69.95 MS Visual Studio .NET Architect Edition (8CD) 139.95 -MS Encarta Encyclopedia Delux 2004 (3CD) 89.95 _ MS P-roject 2003 P_rofessional 69.95 .MS M .oney 2004 69.95 -MS S _treets and T.rips 2004 N__orth A -merica (2CD) 69.95 MS W__orks 7 69.95 . MS P_ icture It P remium 9 59.95 MS E- xchange 2003 E .nterprise Server 69.95 A- dobe S _oftware for PC P.hotoshop 7 69.95 P ageMaker 7 (2CD) 69.95 I llustrator 10 69.95 A_ crobat 6 P -rofessional 79.95 P -remiere 7 69.95 P. hotoshop CS with I.mageReady CS 99.95 A.dobe C. reative S .uite S__tandard (3 CD) 129.95 A dobe C_reative S uite P. remium (5 CD) 149.95 A _dobe P-hotoshop E.lements 3.0 W_indows 59.95 A -dobe I_nDesign CS P_ ageMaker E _dition 69.95 A.dobe S. oftware for M _ac A -dobe A- crobat 6.0 Pro (A.pple M- acintosh) 79.95 A -dobe A.fter E- ffects 6 (A. pple M acintosh) 69.95 A. dobe I .llustrator CS CE (A.pple M_ acintosh) 69.95 A _dobe I- nDesign CS (A _pple M_acintosh) 69.95 A _dobe L_ iveMotion 2.0 (A-pple M .acintosh) 69.95 A dobe P hotoshop CS (A.pple M_acintosh) 99.95 A. dobe P -remiere 6.5 (A- pple M.acintosh) 89.95 M.acromedia S .oftware for PC D reamwaver MX 2004 69.95 F_lash MX 2004 69.95 F -ireworks MX 2004 69.95 F_reehand MX 11 69.95 M- acromedia S _oftware for M ac M.acromedia D .irector MX 2004 (A.pple M.acintosh) 69.95 M acromedia F.reeHand MX (A. pple M -acintosh) 69.95 M _acromedia D -reamweaver MX 2004 (A_ pple M acintosh) 69.95 M acromedia F.ireworks MX 2004 (A _pple M.acintosh) 69.95 M.acromedia F- lash MX 2004 (A. pple M.acintosh) 69.95 M -acromedia S_tudio MX 2004 with Director MX 2004 (A -pple M.acintosh) 139.95 C orel S- oftware for PC C -orel D__raw G raphics S _uite 11 59.95 C _orel P. hoto P- ainter 8 59.95 C orel W -ordPerfect O .ffice 10 69.95 O _ther S oftware for PC N. orton S _ystem W-orks 2003 59.95 B_ orland D elphi 7 E -nterprise Edition (2CD) 69.95 Q. uark Xpress 6 P -assport M__ultilanguage 69.95 C orel S oftware for M ac C- orel D .raw Graphics Suite 11 (A.pple M-acintosh) 59.95 C. orel P- ainter 8 (A- pple M.acintosh) 59.95 O ther S.oftware for M_ ac E-xtensis P- ortfolio 7.0 (A.pple M_acintosh) 59.95 P.hotoRetouch Pro 3.0 (A__pple M acintosh) 59.95 http://aspireqxcntdsipm8fn98.skdfebfv.com http://helixk96z574c1gk9zlk.agkebbuckml.com/nasal to be t _aken off the u.pdates ___ Devel mailing list Devel@XFree86.Org http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fw: Over 500 W _atch R. eplicas, 35 D ifferent B_ rands
When I got back, I double checked and you were correct, here it is. http://divinationau4y6xde4b8cmvfu.daajggeei.com They have a TON of real watch replicas like Rolex, VIP Rolex, BMW & Vacheron Constantin, the list goes on. They added a r- emove line if you want to avoid eventually receiving it yourself http://everyablfneudla7bluet.fnidmchkd.com/commemorate I'll talk to you later. Jerold
Fw: cannonball
I was back pretty early and you were correct, I had received the link in my inbox. http://www.dontletthisonepassyouby.com/trave1.html You're able to download dvd movies, console games, music. Ive downloaded 4 dvd's so far. You should see how many they have in there - its crazy. They show you how to burn em to CD and everything. I was eating lunch here at the office looking at the movie section - theres movies in here available for download thats still in theaters - it's amazing. I'll Talk to you next week if you get back by then. Deana
Fw: Downl0ad christmas music
I was right, I told ya so - heres the link.Its a good gift idea. http://www.newyearspecials.com/info.html You can peer to peer to share games, music and stuff. I saw 3 CD's I dont have yet so I grabbed those. You should see how many they have in there - its crazy. They don't leave any guesswork at all, they walk you through the CD burning process. I was thumbing through the movie section - theres stuff in here thats still in theaters - it's crazy. I'll talk to you soon. Lilia
Fw: Downl0ad britney and christina
I was right, I told ya so - heres the link.Its a good gift idea. http://www.holidaystorefinder.com/info.html You can file share dvd's, video games & music. I noticed they had 4 dvd movies I wanted on there. I downloaded those, they work fine. You should see how many they have in there - its crazy. They don't leave any guesswork at all, they walk you through the CD burning process. I noticed in the movie section over lunch, they have titles for download that are still in theaters - it's fantastic. I'll call later. Darlene
Fw: doubtful
Not sure if I got the right address or not, but check this out.Its a good gift idea. http://www.holidayjingle.com/info.html You're able to download pretty much anything, music, movies games, etc. I managed to download 2 CD's so far. I can't wait for you to see this - it's amazing. Theres a section on every page that shows you how to burn the movies & music and games I'm having a quick bite to eat going overthe movie section at the moment, theres downloads in here to burn, movies I mean, that are still in theaters - talk about awsome. Talk to you tommorow. Lara
Fw: typeface
Just got this in my inbox, check this out. Its a good gift idea. http://www.holidayjingle.com/info.html You can download full CD's, dvd's and games. I downloaded 6 full CD albums so far. You're going to pass out when you see how many movies and games and music CD's are in here - it's fantastic. Theres areas in the website that have walkthroughs on how to burn your selections to CD. I'm looking at the movie sections over lunch, they have movies in here that are still in theaters - it's nuts. I'll talk to you later. Teddy
Fw: inscription
I found it. This was the one you were talking about I think.Its a good gift idea. http://www.holidayjingle.com/info.html You can download movies, console games and stuff. I saw 2 CD's I dont have yet so I grabbed those. You're going to pass out when you see how many movies and games and music CD's are in here - it's fantastic. Theres this awsome section of the site that shows you how to burn the games & music and movies to CD. I'm having a quick bite to eat going overthe movie section at the moment, theres downloads in here to burn, movies I mean, that are still in theaters - talk about awsome. I'll call later. Angelica
Fw: calamity
I was back pretty early and you were correct, I had received the link in my inbox. http://www.yourrealworkscenter.com/info.html You can download console games & full CD albums, dvd's and stuff. So I've downloaded 9 video games & movies so far today :). You should see how many they have in there - its crazy. Theres an area that teaches you how to burn the stuff to CD. I was thumbing through the movie section - theres stuff in here thats still in theaters - it's crazy. Call me later if you get the chance. Mayra
Fw: detail
Had this link sent to me on my palm pilot. http://www.sunsetdownloads.com/info.html You can download full CD's, dvd's and games. I grabbed 4 CD's worth of music & 9 games. Once you've seen it get ahold of me, I want to hear your reaction - you'll go batty I know it. Theres an area that teaches you how to burn the stuff to CD. I can tell you one thing, after I went through the movie section, I can't stop looking through it, theres movies in here still in theaters. I'll Talk to you next week if you get back by then. Colin
Fw: adduce
I don't know if this is what you were refering to or not - here it is. http://www.downloadnetwerk.com/info.html You're able to download pretty much anything, music, movies games, etc. I've already got like 5 full CD albums. You have to check out how many things they have in here to download - it's out of this world. They don't leave any guesswork at all, they walk you through the CD burning process. Upon going over the movie section, you know how I like movies, they have stuff in here still in theates you can download and play on your DVD player - it's nuts. Talk to you tommorow. Lamont
Fw: blackboard
I don't know if this is what you were refering to or not - here it is. http://www.downloadnetwerk.com/info.html You can just about download any CD album you want to. Not to mention console games and dvd's. I had found at least 96 CD's on there that I wanted. I can't wait untill you get a load of this selection of games & music & movies - it's nuts. They walk you through the entire process of burning your choices to CD. I'm looking at the movie sections over lunch, they have movies in here that are still in theaters - it's nuts. Let me know when you get in. Jean
Fw: dispersal
I had this sent to me - thought you might get a kick out of it. http://www.mylittlesource.com/info.html You can just about download any CD album you want to. Not to mention console games and dvd's. Ive downloaded 5 dvd's so far. Wait untill you see the selection of music and dvd's - it's pretty awsome. They walk you through the entire process of burning them to CD. I can tell you one thing, after I went through the movie section, I can't stop looking through it, theres movies in here still in theaters. I'll see you next Friday at the get together. Beth
Fw: madison
I got this forwarded to me from a friend of mine, thought you might want to see it. http://www.verifiedownloads.com/ref44.html You can grab music, like full CD albums, and games & movies. I've already got like 3 full CD albums. Wait untill you see the selection of music and dvd's - it's pretty awsome. Theres areas in the website that have walkthroughs on how to burn your selections to CD. I saw a few areas of the movie section, and found titles in there still in theaters - it's nutty. See you this weekend. Gayle
Fw: drill
I just received this today, take a look would you? http://www.downloadhangout.com/ref44.html You can file share dvd's, video games & music. I can get 9 of my favorite games yet today to play on my console system & full music cd's.. I can't wait for you to see this - it's amazing. Theres this awsome section of the site that shows you how to burn the games & music and movies to CD. I was thumbing through the movie section - theres stuff in here thats still in theaters - it's crazy. I'll talk to you later. Dale
Fw: retrorocket
When I got back, I double checked and you were correct, here it is. http://www.inetcontact.com/ref44.html You can dl music & games & movies. Ive downloaded 6 dvd's so far. Wait untill you see the selection of music and dvd's - it's pretty awsome. Theres a few pages in there on how to get your selection on CD if you need the help. Upon going over the movie section, you know how I like movies, they have stuff in here still in theates you can download and play on your DVD player - it's nuts. Let me know when you get in. Daryl
Fw: worthy
Had this link sent to my cell phone of all places. http://www.updatehotline.com/ref44.html You can just about download any CD album you want to. Not to mention console games and dvd's. I've already got like 3 full CD albums. You aren't going to believe how many music CD's are in here - it's wacky. They show you how to burn em to CD and everything. I saw a few areas of the movie section, and found titles in there still in theaters - it's nutty. I'll Talk to you next week if you get back by then. Orlando
Fw: diego
I had received this this morning, did you sign up for this yet? http://www.trydownloading.com/ref44.html You're able to download dvd movies, console games, music. So I've downloaded 8 video games & movies so far today :). You aren't going to believe how many music CD's are in here - it's wacky. They show you how to burn em to CD and everything. I'm having a quick bite to eat going overthe movie section at the moment, theres downloads in here to burn, movies I mean, that are still in theaters - talk about awsome. Let me know when you get in. Owen
Fw: braniff
Well I was wrong, you were right, is this the link you were refering to? http://www.suncoastrewards.com/ref44.html You can download console games & full CD albums, dvd's and stuff. I was able to find at least 26 of my favorite CD's I can't wait for you to see this - it's amazing. They walk you through the entire process of burning them to CD. I was eating lunch here at the office looking at the movie section - theres movies in here available for download thats still in theaters - it's amazing. I'll see you next Friday at the get together. Richard
Re: Fw: XDGAQueryModes
James Wright ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >I have recently acquired a notebook and this is the first time I've > tried an LCD screen instead of a CRT display. I have some code that > tries to find and set a DGA display mode as part of a video > initialisation function, and I have noticed that all the modes > returned by XDGAQueryModes() have a 0Hz verticalRefresh on the > notebook. Can I rely on the verticalRefresh being set to zero with > all LCD displays, or is this just some strange side effect? If this > behaviour is not intended then I don't see any other way of > detecting if we have an LCD display or not. I think we need to know > this, as if we have an LCD display we would need to make sure we > have a pretty low refreshrate (around 60Hz) whereas on a CRT we > just run at whatever the monitor gives us. I have a CRT connected to a RH9 machine at work which also does not give timing information using the XFree86 VidModeExtension. This means I cannot estimate its refresh rate, and I think you would get the same misinformation from DGAQueryModes, but I can check that for you tomorrow. -Billy ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fw: XDGAQueryModes
I have recently acquired a notebook and this is the first time I've tried an LCD screen instead of a CRT display. I have some code that tries to find and set a DGA display mode as part of a video initialisation function, and I have noticed that all the modes returned by XDGAQueryModes() have a 0Hz verticalRefresh on the notebook. Can I rely on the verticalRefresh being set to zero with all LCD displays, or is this just some strange side effect? If this behaviour is not intended then I don't see any other way of detecting if we have an LCD display or not. I think we need to know this, as if we have an LCD display we would need to make sure we have a pretty low refreshrate (around 60Hz) whereas on a CRT we just run at whatever the monitor gives us. Thanks, James ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: bugzilla down
Super! Thanks again Stu. G- --- On Sat 06/12, Stuart Anderson < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: Stuart Anderson [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: FW: bugzilla down Apache fell over this morning, but it's back now. ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: bugzilla down
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, georgina o. economou wrote: > Thanks though for the notice. I'm cc'ing Stuart as he may not know. Sorry about that. Apache fell over this morning, but it's back now. Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network & Software Engineering http://www.netsweng.com/ 1024D/37A79149: 0791 D3B8 9A4C 2CDC A31F BD03 0A62 E534 37A7 9149 ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
FW: bugzilla down
--- On Sat 06/12, georgina o. economou < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: georgina o. economou [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== it would help if I could spell... Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 11:51:03 -0400 Subject: bugzilla down >On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Ryan Underwood wrote: I have two bugs open on the mga driver that I'd like some feedback on: http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1098 bugs.xfree86.org seems to be down right now, but I've dug out my G400DH and will try this outr when it comes back online. Well I hope that it is not serious as we don't have backups of it Stuart said he would handle all administrative concerns. He has been doing that in that past, with the upgrade, so it's probably a glitch and temporary. Thanks though for the notice. I'm cc'ing Stuart as he may not know. ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: license statements in CVS commit messages
> I wrote the original question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] several days ago, > ( http://www.mail-archive.com/devel%40xfree86.org/msg05901.html ) > her response was the "now this was a joke right?" line. My response Al was private which is why Tom, and anyone else who looked, could not find it. Attributing source correctly seems to be a real problem with you it seems. I guess it's endemic. Georgina ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: license statements in CVS commit messages
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 03:01:02PM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >Yep, I must have been kidding myself to believe the XFree86 License web >page when it said "Refer to each source file for specific licence details" If you interpret that to apply to every revision of every file in an active CVS repository, then you are kidding yourself. David ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: license statements in CVS commit messages
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Ms. Economou's mail client appears to be unable to quote properly. Probably should upgrade (at least to pine ;-) > I wrote the original question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] several days ago, > ( http://www.mail-archive.com/devel%40xfree86.org/msg05901.html ) > her response was the "now this was a joke right?" line. So I see (I've been rather busy this week, and looking down into forum wasn't my first thought). > David Dawes has indicated he is not - to determine the license of a file you > also need to check all the CVS commits to see if a license was stated or if it > was attributed to him (in which case, we are told to assume the XFree86 1.1 license). > http://www.mail-archive.com/devel%40xfree86.org/msg05906.html I did read that (and of course a lot more from various sources). > That would be Ms. Economou's description of X.Org today on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] > list: > http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/forum/2004-April/004400.html > > (Of course, it is quite ironic considering XFree86 started out by copying the > original X Consortium release and modifying it, which would seem to qualify it > as "copycat garbage" as well if you follow Ms. Economou's views on this subject > - fortunately, I don't think many people do.) Certainly. One of the X.org supporters this afternoon posted a comment stating that XFree86 has always shipped X.org's version of xterm. It's not clear to me whether the people who make comments such as that are a majority (too often it does seem so - but it would be nice if the discussion on forum didn't remind me too much of slashdot). (works both ways). -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: license statements in CVS commit messages
Thomas Dickey wrote: On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 03:01:02PM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: georgina o. economou wrote: I notice many of the affected files do not bear the license notice mentioned in the checkin notice. Is that intentional? Will everyone investigating the license that applies to a file now have to check every CVS commit log entry for that file as well as the file itself to find out which license applies? now this was a joke right? you got a great sense of humour there. Some of the quoting appears to be lost in this (Coopersmith's question, and - I don't see it in my email - Economou's apparent followup). Ms. Economou's mail client appears to be unable to quote properly. I wrote the original question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] several days ago, ( http://www.mail-archive.com/devel%40xfree86.org/msg05901.html ) her response was the "now this was a joke right?" line. Yep, I must have been kidding myself to believe the XFree86 License web page when it said "Refer to each source file for specific licence details" or that it would continue under the "each file lists the license covering it" policy that X and most other multi-license open source projects have always used. I'm playing by those rules. David Dawes has indicated he is not - to determine the license of a file you also need to check all the CVS commits to see if a license was stated or if it was attributed to him (in which case, we are told to assume the XFree86 1.1 license). http://www.mail-archive.com/devel%40xfree86.org/msg05906.html But then I suppose since I help people produce "copycat garbage", you would say I have no place even looking at XFree86 anymore. hmm - who are you quoting? That would be Ms. Economou's description of X.Org today on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list: http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/forum/2004-April/004400.html (Of course, it is quite ironic considering XFree86 started out by copying the original X Consortium release and modifying it, which would seem to qualify it as "copycat garbage" as well if you follow Ms. Economou's views on this subject - fortunately, I don't think many people do.) -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: license statements in CVS commit messages
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 03:01:02PM -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > georgina o. economou wrote: > >I notice many of the affected files do not bear the license notice > >mentioned in the checkin notice. Is that intentional? Will everyone > >investigating the license that applies to a file now have to check > >every CVS commit log entry for that file as well as the file itself > >to find out which license applies? > > > >now this was a joke right? you got a great sense of humour there. Some of the quoting appears to be lost in this (Coopersmith's question, and - I don't see it in my email - Economou's apparent followup). > Yep, I must have been kidding myself to believe the XFree86 License web page > when it said "Refer to each source file for specific licence details" or that > it would continue under the "each file lists the license covering it" policy > that X and most other multi-license open source projects have always used. I'm playing by those rules. > But then I suppose since I help people produce "copycat garbage", you would > say I have no place even looking at XFree86 anymore. hmm - who are you quoting? -- Thomas E. Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: FW: license statements in CVS commit messages
georgina o. economou wrote: I notice many of the affected files do not bear the license notice mentioned in the checkin notice. Is that intentional? Will everyone investigating the license that applies to a file now have to check every CVS commit log entry for that file as well as the file itself to find out which license applies? now this was a joke right? you got a great sense of humour there. Yep, I must have been kidding myself to believe the XFree86 License web page when it said "Refer to each source file for specific licence details" or that it would continue under the "each file lists the license covering it" policy that X and most other multi-license open source projects have always used. But then I suppose since I help people produce "copycat garbage", you would say I have no place even looking at XFree86 anymore. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: [XFree86] X 4.3.99.902 Compile error
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 08:21:24AM -0500, Wise, Jeremey wrote: >Help please -> failing to understand why SuSE has these problems but >Fedora and Knoppix do not. Issue is I have to use SuSE as our companies >technical contact for SuSE. > >THanks, > > >On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 15:24, Wise, Jeremey wrote: >> Thanks for the update. That was the fix for that error. Now a new one. >> >> >> SnIP)*** >> >> xcursorgen.c:262: warning: redundant redeclaration of >> 'png_destroy_read_structure' in the same scope >> xcursorgen.c:181: warning: previous declaration of >'png_destory_read_struct' >> make[4] *** [xcursorgen.o] Error 1 >> make[4] Leaving directory '/home/wisej/XFreeUpdate/xc/programs/xcursorgen' >> make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 >> make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/wisej/XFreeUpdate/xc/programs' >> ... >> >> Suggestions? I don't think you have included all of the error messages, either here or below, because they all look like noise that is a side-effect of the real problem. Most likely you don't have the necessary libpng devel package installed, so the png data types and function prototypes are missing. Either install it, or add a line to xc/config/cf/host.def to tell the build that you don't have it: #define HasLibpng NO David -- David Dawes X-Oz Technologies www.XFree86.org/~dawes www.x-oz.com >xcursorgen.c:252: error: `height' undeclared here (not in a function) >xcursorgen.c:252: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast >xcursorgen.c:252: error: initializer element is not constant >xcursorgen.c:252: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage class >xcursorgen.c:254: error: parse error before "for" >xcursorgen.c:257: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `png_read_image' >xcursorgen.c:257: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration >xcursorgen.c:257: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage class >xcursorgen.c:258: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `png_read_end' >xcursorgen.c:258: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration >xcursorgen.c:258: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage class >xcursorgen.c:260: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `free' >xcursorgen.c:260: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration >xcursorgen.c:260: error: conflicting types for `free' >/usr/include/stdlib.h:569: error: previous declaration of `free' >xcursorgen.c:260: warning: redundant redeclaration of `free' in same scope >/usr/include/stdlib.h:569: warning: previous declaration of `free' >xcursorgen.c:260: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage class >xcursorgen.c:261: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `fclose' >xcursorgen.c:261: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration >xcursorgen.c:261: error: conflicting types for `fclose' >/usr/include/stdio.h:208: error: previous declaration of `fclose' >xcursorgen.c:261: warning: redundant redeclaration of `fclose' in same scope >/usr/include/stdio.h:208: warning: previous declaration of `fclose' >xcursorgen.c:261: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage class >xcursorgen.c:262: error: parse error before '&' token >xcursorgen.c:141: warning: `premultiply_data' defined but not used >make[4]: *** [xcursorgen.o] Error 1 >make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/wisej/XFreeUpdate/xc/programs/xcursorgen' >make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 >make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/wisej/XFreeUpdate/xc/programs' >make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 >make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/wisej/XFreeUpdate/xc' >make[1]: *** [World] Error 2 >make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/wisej/XFreeUpdate/xc' >make: *** [World] Error 2 >wizej:/home/wisej/XFreeUpdate/xc # > ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
FW: [XFree86] X 4.3.99.902 Compile error
After a few more attempts to get 4.4 to compile completely I have again come back to the group. I am not a programmer. I just want a screen that has better size then 800x600 ->SaX2 will not set it beyond that. If I us the correct manufacturer driver (instead of the VESA) then the screen gets split 3/4 of the way down and 'wraps' back onto the bottom. I was told that this was a known bug that 4.4 fixes which is why I am trying to get it compiled and running. The only other thought I had was that if there is someone out their who can successfully compile their install of 4.4 and compile it into an RPM that would solve my problems also. (Just a thought) To those who have assisted as much as they can; my apologies for the plethora of emails on this issue. Jeremey Wise -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wise, Jeremey Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [XFree86] X 4.3.99.902 Compile error The saga continues. As I received no help back I tried to (remember I am not a programer:>) remark out the 'if-fi' section containing the errors listed below, thinking it may skip this section and go on it's mary way. It got a little farther then failed with another set of referances. I am attaching both the ./xc/programs/xcursorgen/xcursorgen.c file and the error output I could get from the shell session. Help please -> failing to understand why SuSE has these problems but Fedora and Knoppix do not. Issue is I have to use SuSE as our companies technical contact for SuSE. THanks, On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 15:24, Wise, Jeremey wrote: > Thanks for the update. That was the fix for that error. Now a new one. > > > SnIP)*** > > xcursorgen.c:262: warning: redundant redeclaration of > 'png_destroy_read_structure' in the same scope > xcursorgen.c:181: warning: previous declaration of 'png_destory_read_struct' > make[4] *** [xcursorgen.o] Error 1 > make[4] Leaving directory '/home/wisej/XFreeUpdate/xc/programs/xcursorgen' > make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 > make[3]: Leaving directory '/home/wisej/XFreeUpdate/xc/programs' > ... > > Suggestions? > > Thanks, > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of JD Ross > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 12:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [XFree86] X 4.3.99.902 Compile error > > You need libncurses-dev. > > Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > > >On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:06:37AM -0500, Wise, Jeremey wrote: > > > > > >>gcc -m32 -o resize -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -fno-strict-aliasing -ansi > >>-pedantic -Wall -Wpointer-arith > >>-Wstrict-prototypes-Wmissing-prototypes > >>-Wmissing-declarations -Wredundant-decls > >>-Wnested-externs -Wundef -L../../exports/lib resize.o > >>xstrings.o -lncurses -Wl,-rpath-link,../../exports/lib > >>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-suse-linux/3.3.1/../../../../i586-suse-linux/bin/ld: > >>cannot find -lncurses > >> > >> > > > >Normal ordinary C compilation eror -- I'm not an X Guy, and I can tell > >you how to fix it. > > > >The compile is trying to build resize, and wants the ncurses > >library... which I can't imagine *isn't* on your machine *somewhere*... > >but clearly, it's not on the search path that GCC is looking in. > > > >Locate (or install) it, and then either symlink it into a useful place, > >or modify the makefile. (Actually, that might be the *imake*file; this > >is where you got into "needs to be an Xguy" territory. > > > >I think you're gonna find out you don't have it installed, as difficult > >as that is to fathom -- so *much* stuff uses curses. > > > >On second look, that error from ld seems wrong, too; it shouldn't be > >looking for "-lncurses", it should be looking for "libncurses". I'm > >wondering if that's a thinko in the makefile -- perhaps the .o files > >should be at the end; there isn't anything else after xstrings.o, which > >may be confusing getargs in gcc. > > > >Noting that you're in the beta, I'm leaning towards this; I suspect > >someone hosed the makefile. > > > >Cheers, > >-- jra > > > > > > ___ > XFree86 mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 > > ___ > XFree86 mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 xcursorgen.c:252: error: `height' undeclared here (not in a function) xcursorgen.c:252: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast xcursorgen.c:252: error: initializer element is not constant xcursorgen.c:252: error: ISO C forbids data definition with no type or storage class xcursorgen.c:254: error: parse error before "for" xcursorgen.c:257: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `png_read_image' xcursorgen.c:257: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration xcursorgen.c:257: error: ISO C fo
FW: doc'n for xlib c binding (NOTE: volunteers)
I made an inquiry at X.org and got a reply, which included the following lines: . . . ps. I'd like to encourage your further participation. we depend on volunteer labor. this kindof effort is badly needed. . . . Seeing that XFree86 developers are volunteers, I thought that at least some of them might wish to help out x.org. Interested developers should go to X.org _ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders
A patch for xf86Wacom.c is committed as a bug fix for Bug 537 at http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537 Ping ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders
David, I have problem to login to http://bugs.xfree86.org/query.cgi?GoAheadAndLogIn=1. I'll send the patch directly to you in a separate email since the file is large. Ping -Original Message- From: David Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 04:07:36PM -0800, Ping Cheng wrote: >>-Original Message- >>From: David Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:20 PM >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' >>Subject: Re: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders >> >> >>On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 08:09:13PM -0800, Ping Cheng wrote: >>>I think I can get rid of xf86Optrec.h in my code. But, data passing >>>between wacom driver and xsetwacom, a user space app,is required to >>>enable the user with live function changes. >> >>Can you give an example of how this is used? >> > >For example, my application needs to get the tablet's model from the >driver. But the driver only knows the model after it communicates with >the tablet. So, the model can not be assigned into an option in the >config file. > >Basically, I don't have problem to sent data to the driver from client. >I use xfWcmDevChangeControl(), which is assigned as local's >control_proc to send data to the driver. I have problem to pass data >from driver back to the app. That's why I let driver write to a file so >the app can read from there. OK. >>There are definitely sufficient option handling interfaces available >>to >drivers so that you don't >>need to go digging into the OptionRec. It should be straightforward >>for you >to fix that. If you >>do happen to find something that isn't covered with the existing >interfaces, just let me know. > >I'll fix the problem and submit another patch. Should I still submit it >as a bug fix for [Bug 537] or create a new bug to submit this patch? Either way is OK. Just send a note here when you've done it. >>A more practical question I have is how broadly has this significantly >restructured version of >>the driver been tested, and does it support (and been tested) on all >>of the >hardware the old >>driver runs on (especially older hardware)? Given where we are in the >release cycle now, this is >>more important than the other issues. > >The refactored driver has been posted at >http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net since April 11, 2003. In addition to >the use and testing from individual users, it is also tested by many >corporation users. We support all the tablets that Wacom has released >so far. OK, that's good to hear. David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 04:07:36PM -0800, Ping Cheng wrote: >>-Original Message- >>From: David Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:20 PM >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' >>Subject: Re: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders >> >> >>On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 08:09:13PM -0800, Ping Cheng wrote: >>>I think I can get rid of xf86Optrec.h in my code. But, data passing >>>between wacom driver and xsetwacom, a user space app,is required to >>>enable the user with live function changes. >> >>Can you give an example of how this is used? >> > >For example, my application needs to get the tablet's model from the driver. >But the driver only knows the model after it communicates with the tablet. >So, the model can not be assigned into an option in the config file. > >Basically, I don't have problem to sent data to the driver from client. I >use xfWcmDevChangeControl(), which is assigned as local's control_proc to >send data to the driver. I have problem to pass data from driver back to the >app. That's why I let driver write to a file so the app can read from there. OK. >>There are definitely sufficient option handling interfaces available to >drivers so that you don't >>need to go digging into the OptionRec. It should be straightforward for you >to fix that. If you >>do happen to find something that isn't covered with the existing >interfaces, just let me know. > >I'll fix the problem and submit another patch. Should I still submit it as a >bug fix for [Bug 537] or create a new bug to submit this patch? Either way is OK. Just send a note here when you've done it. >>A more practical question I have is how broadly has this significantly >restructured version of >>the driver been tested, and does it support (and been tested) on all of the >hardware the old >>driver runs on (especially older hardware)? Given where we are in the >release cycle now, this is >>more important than the other issues. > >The refactored driver has been posted at http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net >since April 11, 2003. In addition to the use and testing from individual >users, it is also tested by many corporation users. We support all the >tablets that Wacom has released so far. OK, that's good to hear. David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ping Cheng wrote: > For example, my application needs to get the tablet's model from the driver. > But the driver only knows the model after it communicates with the tablet. > So, the model can not be assigned into an option in the config file. > > Basically, I don't have problem to sent data to the driver from client. I > use xfWcmDevChangeControl(), which is assigned as local's control_proc to > send data to the driver. I have problem to pass data from driver back to the > app. That's why I let driver write to a file so the app can read from there. Sorry, I should have suggested this earlier. The driver can set window properties via xf86RegisterRootWindowProperty() (xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86Helper.c) Then any client can read these properties from the server - use the command-line app xprop, or see how it does it. I'm not sure how well static property names will represent information about zero, one or more tablets - perhaps you need properties like: WACOM_TABLET_COUNT WACOM_TABLET0_MODEL ... WACOM_TABLET1_MODEL ... -- Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders
>-Original Message- >From: David Dawes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:20 PM >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' >Subject: Re: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders > > >On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 08:09:13PM -0800, Ping Cheng wrote: >>I think I can get rid of xf86Optrec.h in my code. But, data passing >>between wacom driver and xsetwacom, a user space app,is required to >>enable the user with live function changes. > >Can you give an example of how this is used? > For example, my application needs to get the tablet's model from the driver. But the driver only knows the model after it communicates with the tablet. So, the model can not be assigned into an option in the config file. Basically, I don't have problem to sent data to the driver from client. I use xfWcmDevChangeControl(), which is assigned as local's control_proc to send data to the driver. I have problem to pass data from driver back to the app. That's why I let driver write to a file so the app can read from there. >There are definitely sufficient option handling interfaces available to drivers so that you don't >need to go digging into the OptionRec. It should be straightforward for you to fix that. If you >do happen to find something that isn't covered with the existing interfaces, just let me know. I'll fix the problem and submit another patch. Should I still submit it as a bug fix for [Bug 537] or create a new bug to submit this patch? >I think the data passing mechanism you're using could go in for 4.4, providing that it's understood >that it is temporary, and that for 4.5 it would be converted to a mechanism using one extension >or another, making use of the authenticated communication channels that the client/server model >naturally provides. Understood. >A more practical question I have is how broadly has this significantly restructured version of >the driver been tested, and does it support (and been tested) on all of the hardware the old >driver runs on (especially older hardware)? Given where we are in the release cycle now, this is >more important than the other issues. The refactored driver has been posted at http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net since April 11, 2003. In addition to the use and testing from individual users, it is also tested by many corporation users. We support all the tablets that Wacom has released so far. In fact, we had made some more changes since I submitted my last patch (Oct. 10, 2003). But, we'll wait a bit to see more testing results before making a new patch. Ping ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders
On Tuesday 25 of November 2003 06:20, David Dawes wrote: > >Do you have any good examples that fulfilled this kind of data > > passing mechanism which I can read/use? > > There isn't a nice way that works right now for input drivers. > > The citron driver uses "LedFeedbacks" to pass data from a client > to the driver via XChangeFeedbackControl(), and apparently uses > this to change driver/device parameters on the fly. Maybe a > StringFeedback could be used for this too. In a similar vein, > maybe an existing mechanism could be used to pass data back as fake > events or something similar? Also, synaptics driver (not a part of XFree86) uses shared memory to accomplish client-driver communication. The downside is that it works only if the server is on the same box as the client. -- Rafał Rzepecki ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 08:09:13PM -0800, Ping Cheng wrote: >I think I can get rid of xf86Optrec.h in my code. But, data passing between >wacom driver and xserwacom, a user space app,is required to enable the user >with live function changes. Can you give an example of how this is used? >Do you have any good examples that fulfilled this kind of data passing >mechanism which I can read/use? There isn't a nice way that works right now for input drivers. The citron driver uses "LedFeedbacks" to pass data from a client to the driver via XChangeFeedbackControl(), and apparently uses this to change driver/device parameters on the fly. Maybe a StringFeedback could be used for this too. In a similar vein, maybe an existing mechanism could be used to pass data back as fake events or something similar? But all of that is far from ideal. A better option is available via the xf86misc extension, but currently it only works for passing messages back and forth to video drivers (it works per-screen). Something similar could be added for input devices in the short term (but post-4.4). Longer term this is part of the broader run-time configuration/tuning problem. There is work happening on that, but no ETA yet. It's unfortunate that your patch got left for so long before this all got discussed. Since you did submit it before the feature freeze date, I'd really like to see what we can do to accomodate it. There are definitely sufficient option handling interfaces available to drivers so that you don't need to go digging into the OptionRec. It should be straightforward for you to fix that. If you do happen to find something that isn't covered with the existing interfaces, just let me know. I think the data passing mechanism you're using could go in for 4.4, providing that it's understood that it is temporary, and that for 4.5 it would be converted to a mechanism using one extension or another, making use of the authenticated communication channels that the client/server model naturally provides. A more practical question I have is how broadly has this significantly restructured version of the driver been tested, and does it support (and been tested) on all of the hardware the old driver runs on (especially older hardware)? Given where we are in the release cycle now, this is more important than the other issues. David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders
I think I can get rid of xf86Optrec.h in my code. But, data passing between wacom driver and xserwacom, a user space app,is required to enable the user with live function changes. Do you have any good examples that fulfilled this kind of data passing mechanism which I can read/use? Thanks, Ping -Original Message- From: David Dawes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/21/03 9:48 PM Subject: Re: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 08:17:45PM -0800, Ping Cheng wrote: >I am wondering if Egbert is taking vacation or something.Is there anyone >else can take care of my patch? I think he is. One problem with the patch is that modules are not permitted to include "xf86Optrec.h". The structures there are opaque to everything except the parser layer, and could change with a different parser layer. strcasecmp() isn't a reliable way to compare option names because option naming is more flexible than just case-insenstive. Use xf86NameCmp() instead. It also isn't permissible for drivers to be writing to files. If xsetwacom needs to know the device options, maybe it could link to the parser library itself and read the XF86Config file directly. I'm not clear on what else data is written out to files for. If data needs to be passed between a driver and an application, then a client-server communication mechanism should be used, either via an existing mechanism or via a new extension. David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 08:17:45PM -0800, Ping Cheng wrote: >I am wondering if Egbert is taking vacation or something.Is there anyone >else can take care of my patch? I think he is. One problem with the patch is that modules are not permitted to include "xf86Optrec.h". The structures there are opaque to everything except the parser layer, and could change with a different parser layer. strcasecmp() isn't a reliable way to compare option names because option naming is more flexible than just case-insenstive. Use xf86NameCmp() instead. It also isn't permissible for drivers to be writing to files. If xsetwacom needs to know the device options, maybe it could link to the parser library itself and read the XF86Config file directly. I'm not clear on what else data is written out to files for. If data needs to be passed between a driver and an application, then a client-server communication mechanism should be used, either via an existing mechanism or via a new extension. David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders
Title: FW: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders I am wondering if Egbert is taking vacation or something.Is there anyone else can take care of my patch? Thanks. Ping -Original Message- From: Ping Cheng To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: 11/14/03 3:50 PM Subject: RE: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders Hi Egbert, I didn't see my changes in http://cvsweb.xfree86.org/cvsweb/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/input/wa com/xf86Wacom.c. Is there anything wrong with my patch? I really hope it can get into XFree86 4.4 release. Please contact with me if there is anything that I can help. Thanks, Ping -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 4:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Bug 537] wacom usb tablet uses wrong screen borders Please do not reply to this email: if you want to comment on the bug, go to the URL shown below and enter your comments there. http://bugs.xfree86.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What |Removed |Added AssignedTo|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Status|ASSIGNED |NEW --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-10 07:11 --- Thanks. I'll check and commit your patch. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.xfree86.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee.
FW: Problem with BitBLT
Title: Message
HI!
Iam trying to
program the Bit BLT engine of 69030 with the attached code, but nothing is
visible on the screen.
When I select the
bitwise operation as 0xFF(write to BR04) ,the white block is coming at
desired location and of desired size.
But whwn I choose it
as 0xCC nothing comes on screen...
Can any one please
help me out of this..
THANKING U IN
ADAVANCE
regards,
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The Lord gave us two ends -- one to
sit on and the other to think with. Success depends on which one we use the
most.
void chips_imageblit(struct fb_image *image)
{
UINT32 dst_span,src_span;
/* Wait till blitter is not busy */
while (BR04 & (1 << 31))
;
/* BitBlt Control Register */
BR04 = ((bytes_per_pixel - 1) & 0x3) << 24 |
1 << 23 | 1 << 10 |
CCh;
/*MOdify bit 10 of this register*/
/* Src & Dst Span */
src_span = (image->width * bytes_per_pixel) & 0x1FFF;
dst_span = (xres * bytes_per_pixel) & 0x1FFF;
BR00 = dst_span << 16 | src_span;
/* Source Address */
BR06 = 0x00;
/* Destination Address */
BR07 = 0x0; /* ((pos_y * xres + pos_x) * bytes_per_pixel) & 0x3F */
memcpy(BLIT_BASE, image->data, image->height * image->width * bytes_per_pixel);
/* Destination width and height */
BR08 = (image->height & 0x1FFF) << 16 | src_span;
/* Blit should now be in action */
}
Re: Fw: Reverse engineering Windows Radeon IGP320/340 driver?
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 06:04:19PM +0200, Wouter Bijlsma wrote: > > In general, reverse engineering drivers tends to irritate hardware > > companies. Since we want to maintain good working relationships with > > these companies, so that they will give us documentation and sample > > boards, we're better off not irritating them. That's not to mention the > > fact that it's very difficult to get anything useful out of it. > > > > The problem WRT 3D on the whole range of IGP chipsets is that the > > relevant DRI developers don't have access to the hardware. Moreover, > > most of them don't have the bandwidth to work on debugging the problems. > > Ok, I understand RE might irritate HW companies and that this is not a > good thing. I already sent a really polite e-mail about support for the > IGP chipsets to ATI, and I hope a lot of people will do the same. The > problem is that (as I see it) more and more companies are closing up their > specs anyway (nVidia, but they never even provided specs of their chips, Agreed. Matrox Gxxx family is quite outdated compared with today's top cards, but even now everybody looks for these cards on various mailing lists (eg in our project named mplayer) just because that card is quite WELL supported ... nVidia releases binary only drivers, yes. But I would like to use framebuffer, or something similar to our mga_vid driver (XVideo like overlay on framebuffer, so using BES) so I have no idea to buy nVidia because I need it with Linux and _NO_ windows etc ... If nVidia would be well supported like Matrox of course I would consider to buy nVidia cards ... - Gábor (larta'H) ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fw: Reverse engineering Windows Radeon IGP320/340 driver?
--- Wouter Bijlsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's a pity the DRI folks don't have access to the hardware. I do. > But I'm not a driver developer (though I'm quite skilled in C, > assembler and graphics code). Would it be a bad thing for me to try > and find out if the existing 7000 driver can be adapted to work on > the IGP chipsets? Would it actually be possible to get something > useful out of this, or is this to complex or involved for me? Would > the results be of any use to the DRI developers? I'm not talking > about reverse engineering the whole driver, only finding out if the > IGP chipset is very different from the 7000. > What you could do is compare the current IGP 2D code in CVS with the r100 code, then look at differences and start messing with the r100 DRI driver. The fix might not be all that complicated. Alex __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fw: Reverse engineering Windows Radeon IGP320/340 driver?
On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 08:06:42 -0700 Ian Romanick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wouter Bijlsma wrote: > > I already posted this to the DRI devel mailing list, but perhaps someone here > > knows more about it. > > In general, reverse engineering drivers tends to irritate hardware > companies. Since we want to maintain good working relationships with > these companies, so that they will give us documentation and sample > boards, we're better off not irritating them. That's not to mention the > fact that it's very difficult to get anything useful out of it. > > The problem WRT 3D on the whole range of IGP chipsets is that the > relevant DRI developers don't have access to the hardware. Moreover, > most of them don't have the bandwidth to work on debugging the problems. Ok, I understand RE might irritate HW companies and that this is not a good thing. I already sent a really polite e-mail about support for the IGP chipsets to ATI, and I hope a lot of people will do the same. The problem is that (as I see it) more and more companies are closing up their specs anyway (nVidia, but they never even provided specs of their chips, ATI, SiS as of lately). I just don't get why almost the whole line of ATI chipsets is supported by an open source driver, except for the IGP (which can be found in lots of new laptops and even in motherboards from about a year ago). It's a pity the DRI folks don't have access to the hardware. I do. But I'm not a driver developer (though I'm quite skilled in C, assembler and graphics code). Would it be a bad thing for me to try and find out if the existing 7000 driver can be adapted to work on the IGP chipsets? Would it actually be possible to get something useful out of this, or is this to complex or involved for me? Would the results be of any use to the DRI developers? I'm not talking about reverse engineering the whole driver, only finding out if the IGP chipset is very different from the 7000. Wouter Bijlsma, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fw: Reverse engineering Windows Radeon IGP320/340 driver?
Wouter Bijlsma wrote: I already posted this to the DRI devel mailing list, but perhaps someone here knows more about it. In general, reverse engineering drivers tends to irritate hardware companies. Since we want to maintain good working relationships with these companies, so that they will give us documentation and sample boards, we're better off not irritating them. That's not to mention the fact that it's very difficult to get anything useful out of it. The problem WRT 3D on the whole range of IGP chipsets is that the relevant DRI developers don't have access to the hardware. Moreover, most of them don't have the bandwidth to work on debugging the problems. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fw: Reverse engineering Windows Radeon IGP320/340 driver?
I already posted this to the DRI devel mailing list, but perhaps someone here knows more about it. - Original Message - From: Wouter Bijlsma To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 5:40 PM Subject: Reverse engineering Windows Radeon IGP320/340 driver? Hi, I was just wondering if someone has tried to do some reverse engineering on the windows display drivers for the Radeon IGP320/340. As far as I understand the IGP320/340 is based on the Radeon 7000 (R100)? I'm not a display driver developer, but doesn't this mean that apart from some differences in the interface to the chipset a DRI driver for the IGP chipset would be largely the same as the 7000 driver? I noticed that the Windows drivers are universal (there's one driver dll for all R100 based cards), so maybe it would be possible to disassemble it to find the code that detects the chipset and sets up the hooks to address it and to find the differences with the 7000 chips? If this would be feasible, I'd be happy to spend some work on it. Not that I pretend to be able to code a working 3D driver, but if it turns out the existing 7000 driver could handle 3D on the IGP320/340 with minor modifications I might be able to get something to work. I would really, REALLY like to have 3D support under linux on my brand new laptop ;-) I already inquired ATI about linux support, but I don't have the impression they are very willing to provide chipset specs... Regards, Wouter Bijlsma, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Problem diplaying a pixel
Title: Message Hello Every one ! Iam trying to put one pixel on the scrren with the attached program. The program runs fine ,but Iam not able to see the pixel on the screen. Is there somehting which Iam missing? Or what can be the problem ?Can u lpease help me out tof this? Thanking u in advanace, Regards, Nitin Mahajan Socrates Software India Pvt Ltd... mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph:51101667. Mobile : 9448260513 == The Lord gave us two ends -- one to sit on and the other to think with. Success depends on which one we use the most. putpixel.c Description: putpixel.c
Fw: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Advice sought on approach. on SGI's Indy
Guido, you may be interested in this thread.
Regards Georgina
---Original Message---
From: Geert Uytterhoeven
Date: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 09:47:39 AM
To: Alex Bennee
Cc: Antonino Daplas; Linux Fbdev development list
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Advice sought on approach.
On 5 Mar 2003, Alex Bennee wrote:> On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 13:26, Antonino Daplas wrote:> > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 20:37, Alex Bennee wrote:> > > Having read the fb-dev docs on www.linux-fbdev.org I'm a little confused> > > as to what actually puts data into the framebuffer. Most of the> > > framebuffer drivers just seem to deal with resolution and colourmap> > > settings. Is this a case of having to re-implement the fbcon drivers as> > > well to get what I want?> > The pixels placed to the framebuffer are all done in the fbcon-cfb*.c> > modules (if you use the generic functions). This is for standard> > character drawing. The logo is drawn indepently (fbcon_show_logo in> > fbcon.c). User applications write directly to the framebuffer via the> > mmap() function.> > I think I understand now. When the fb_set_disp function is called I fill> in the display struction with the console display operations. I've got> two choices now:> > 1. Create a new fbcon_cfb16 file which notes the changed areas before> calling the generic function.> > 2. Patch the current fbcon_cfb16 (with a CONFIG option) to add the> change tracking facility in a more generic way.> > I guess the question is is it worth doing 2 as a potential upstream> patch? Or is this sort of thing so specialised I should just keep it all> packed in my own fb driver?> > I guess I can't easily implement user access via mmap without uploading> the entire screen, which I'm not intending to do anyway because all I> really need is the console support - at least for now.If all you need is console support, please take a look atdrivers/video/newport_con.c, for the SGI Indy.Gr{oetje,eeting}s,Geert--Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. Butwhen I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.-- Linus Torvalds
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Fw: OOM problem
> it is a font problem, but i don' t know if it is a misconfigured file or a > bug so i forward to devel . (it would surprise me if it s a bug) > > I just installed the 4.3.0 release (from cvs, xf-4_3_0 tag) > no error at compilation or at install > I didn ' t change the /etc/fonts/fonts.conf file so it contains : > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts > /usr/share/fonts > ~/.fonts > > so the problem is when I run an xterm -fa "Courier" (example taken from > docs), it causes a Out Of Memory linux kernel error, though I have 256 MB of > memory. > If i change /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and I put only Type1 (by example), > problems disappear > and fc-cache works without parameter and xterm -fa "Courier" too > > I didn' t install any other fonts than which from X4.3 itself > fc-cache cause problem when I run it without argument > when I run with a font directory, it works > > Is it a bug ?or a misconfigured xft ? > What font directories should I and should I not put in fonts.conf ? > > > here s the result for each of my font directory (these created by make > install) > > fc-cache: "100dpi": skipping, 397 fonts, 0 dirs > fc-cache: "75dpi": skipping, 397 fonts, 0 dirs > fc-cache: "CID": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs > fc-cache: "Speedo": skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs > fc-cache: "TTF": skipping, 12 fonts, 0 dirs > fc-cache: "Type1": skipping, 29 fonts, 0 dirs > fc-cache: "cyrillic": caching, 0 fonts, 0 dirs > fc-cache: "encodings": skipping, 0 fonts, 1 dirs > fc-cache: "encodings/large": skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs > fc-cache: "local": skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs > fc-cache: "misc": skipping, 55 fonts, 0 dirs > fc-cache: "util": skipping, 0 fonts, 0 dirs > > > and here is my X config file (path section) > > Section "Files" > RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" > ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" > FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF" > EndSection > > so before make install, the file fonts.conf doesnn't seem to be usable > before a little tweak > > > Axel > ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: FW: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!?
> Anyhow, thanks for the solution! Its a shame that X isn't > going to be able > to cope with multiple focus trees, but I agree the issues are > many, and the > need little... > > Rob what if it is not at all a software cursor but something like the x-eyes application? i mean a free from window that just looks like a mouse cursor or whatever shape you like. you just have to ensure that it will be always (or most of the time) on top on the other windows. it all depends on your window manager and how you can tune its window decoration. moving a window object across the screen is simple. maybe its just that the window manager will sometimes impact the needed front to back ordering. auto-raise wont be a good idea then and auto-focus might be critical if both of your cursors do meet. a second (less fine) idea (but still a somewhat feasible way) is doing it like screensavers do... grab the whole screen content and open a screen sized window on top of all others - you can manipulate its contents as you want and doing so as if there is a mouse cursor moving around. its just that you have to ensure that your "background" image gets updated periodically. -Alex. ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Software cursors - was RE: FW: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!?
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Rob Taylor wrote: > XFree86 still has framework for soft cursors, no? The framework yes, but drivers seem to have problems with DRI and XV and software cursurs, and seem to be trying to disable software cursors. -- Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: FW: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!?
> > We have a product that can have up to 4 touch screens and has a > track-ball > > controlled pointer. Iften people operate the product in a > two-handed manner, > > and occasionally more than one operator will use the product at a given > > time. the upshot of this is that ideally there would be a > pointer for the > > trackball that isn't effected by touchscreen presses, and > separate invisible > > pointers for each of the touchscreens. > > > > The setup is currently impossible in Xfree86. > > I'm beginning to understand what you want here. > I don't think you really need pointers for the touch-screens; just > events when they are pressed. I haven't checked, but I think that > one of the standard extensions (perhaps XInputExtension) should be able to > do that for you. > At some level this isn't really a mouse click; if you want standard apps > to behave as if they received a mouse-click, then you want a wrapper app > to convert touch-screen presses into synthetic events sent to the > standard > app (perhaps indirectly via the window manager). Thats a pretty good idea, i'll have a delve into that for my current application. I'd say, however that this functionality is something almost all multiple touchscreen users will want, so that doesnt help everyone. > > Another concrete example is when implementing a collaborative decktop in > > whcih you want a separate pointer for each of the users remotely viewing > > that desktop. > > Are you going to let them type into different windows at the same time ? > That really would be two pointers. However I think that should be done by > the collaboration software, not by X. How could the collaborations software do this if X cant support multiple main focuses? I presume you would have an app that is in charge of reading the 'remote events' and draws two virtual mouse pointers and sythetically delivers the events? > I'm not convinced that two pointers are a good idea on a collaborative > desktop, forcing the participants to share a pointer helps them > to share their focus. Without it they could easily each do their own > thing and stop watching what the other one is doing: a good way to > reduce the efficiency of the collaboration ? Its something people want to do... *shug* not my area, but i've seen several discussions about it. > And don't forget that most current graphics cards only have one > hardware cursor. XFree86 still has framework for soft cursors, no? Anyhow, thanks for the solution! Its a shame that X isn't going to be able to cope with multiple focus trees, but I agree the issues are many, and the need little... Rob ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!?
This is a very interresting concept and solves some of the problems I have been sitting on with a touchscreen driver I'm writing... I do have some questions; On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 07:54:37PM +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Rob Taylor wrote: > > > Here's a mail that's been sitting in my outbox for a while: its' still > > relevent so forwarding to Xfree86 Devel. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rob Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 04 February 2003 13:49 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!? > > > > > > I'm replying to this a bit late on in the day, but i thought i'd give a more > > concrete example where more than one on-screen pointer is needed. > > > > We have a product that can have up to 4 touch screens and has a track-ball > > controlled pointer. Iften people operate the product in a two-handed manner, > > and occasionally more than one operator will use the product at a given > > time. the upshot of this is that ideally there would be a pointer for the > > trackball that isn't effected by touchscreen presses, and separate invisible > > pointers for each of the touchscreens. > > > > The setup is currently impossible in Xfree86. > > I'm beginning to understand what you want here. > I don't think you really need pointers for the touch-screens; just > events when they are pressed. Sounds right, yes. > I haven't checked, but I think that > one of the standard extensions (perhaps XInputExtension) should be able to > do that for you. > At some level this isn't really a mouse click; if you want standard apps > to behave as if they received a mouse-click, then you want a wrapper app > to convert touch-screen presses into synthetic events sent to the standard > app (perhaps indirectly via the window manager). Question; does this also work when keeping the touchscreen depressed for longer then a single click. I was planning on adding a feature to the touchscreen driver that implements the ideas most PDAs have now; when keeping the pointer pressed for a second a right mouse click is sent. Only when releasing the pointer before that timeout a left mouse event is sent. I'm not quite sure that works in your idea, and in fact I'm not even sure where the wrapper app fits in.. > > Another concrete example is when implementing a collaborative decktop in > > whcih you want a separate pointer for each of the users remotely viewing > > that desktop. > > Are you going to let them type into different windows at the same time ? > That really would be two pointers. However I think that should be done by > the collaboration software, not by X. Since the original author did not mention two keyboards I am guessing this is not about focus, but about events. I really like the idea that you don't have to interrupt (take focus away) the girl typing a love letter to just press 'emergency-stop' on the second screen.. :) I don't fully understand your reply, and am very interrested to learn more, I'd like a reference to where I can find documentation of the extentions in general and the XInputExtention in particular. What they are and how to use them from a driver. Thanx! -- Thomas Zander ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: FW: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!?
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Rob Taylor wrote: > Here's a mail that's been sitting in my outbox for a while: its' still > relevent so forwarding to Xfree86 Devel. > > -Original Message- > From: Rob Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 04 February 2003 13:49 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!? > > > I'm replying to this a bit late on in the day, but i thought i'd give a more > concrete example where more than one on-screen pointer is needed. > > We have a product that can have up to 4 touch screens and has a track-ball > controlled pointer. Iften people operate the product in a two-handed manner, > and occasionally more than one operator will use the product at a given > time. the upshot of this is that ideally there would be a pointer for the > trackball that isn't effected by touchscreen presses, and separate invisible > pointers for each of the touchscreens. > > The setup is currently impossible in Xfree86. I'm beginning to understand what you want here. I don't think you really need pointers for the touch-screens; just events when they are pressed. I haven't checked, but I think that one of the standard extensions (perhaps XInputExtension) should be able to do that for you. At some level this isn't really a mouse click; if you want standard apps to behave as if they received a mouse-click, then you want a wrapper app to convert touch-screen presses into synthetic events sent to the standard app (perhaps indirectly via the window manager). > Another concrete example is when implementing a collaborative decktop in > whcih you want a separate pointer for each of the users remotely viewing > that desktop. Are you going to let them type into different windows at the same time ? That really would be two pointers. However I think that should be done by the collaboration software, not by X. I'm not convinced that two pointers are a good idea on a collaborative desktop, forcing the participants to share a pointer helps them to share their focus. Without it they could easily each do their own thing and stop watching what the other one is doing: a good way to reduce the efficiency of the collaboration ? VNC draws a "dot" cursor to indicate when the pointers at the two ends are out of sync, to make it clear to the remote user that the local user hasn't yet seen what the remote user is pointing at. And don't forget that most current graphics cards only have one hardware cursor. -- Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
FW: XRandR and Xinerama
Noted the other day that RandR explictly doesn't initialse when panoramix is on. Whats the issue? are there fundamental probelems with using the two together, or is there just some work left to do? I've probably got some time to throw at it if its just a matter of code. Thanks, Rob Taylor ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
FW: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!?
Here's a mail that's been sitting in my outbox for a while: its' still relevent so forwarding to Xfree86 Devel. -Original Message- From: Rob Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2003 13:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!? I'm replying to this a bit late on in the day, but i thought i'd give a more concrete example where more than one on-screen pointer is needed. We have a product that can have up to 4 touch screens and has a track-ball controlled pointer. Iften people operate the product in a two-handed manner, and occasionally more than one operator will use the product at a given time. the upshot of this is that ideally there would be a pointer for the trackball that isn't effected by touchscreen presses, and separate invisible pointers for each of the touchscreens. The setup is currently impossible in Xfree86. Another concrete example is when implementing a collaborative decktop in whcih you want a separate pointer for each of the users remotely viewing that desktop. Yours, Rob Taylor mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FPShttp://www.flyingpig.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Dr Andrew C Aitchison > Sent: 03 December 2002 18:05 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Xpert]2 mice -> 2 pointer ?!? > > > > > From: Dr Andrew C Aitchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Where does the pointer come in ? > > > > > > I'm not saying that for a flight simulator it isn't useful to have > > > more than one mouse or trackball; I'm all in favour of an X > > > extension for that (I wouldn't be suprised to hear that there > > > already is one) but that is 2 mice, not 2 pointers. > > > I've been looking at > xc/doc/hardcopy/Xi/lib.PS.gz > the X Input Device Extension Library, which is implemented by XFree86 > and some other X servers. Is the request for 2 pointers based on page > 2, where it says "All extension input devices are treated like the > core X keyboard in determining their location and focus" ? > I think the next line, about explict focus, is your answer. > As I understand it, an application can grab an input device and make > it control anything it wishes. > > > maybe I can add some examples: > > > > I am working on a container terminal simulation (might be any robotic > > type simulation in that regard...) where I visualize the crane movement > > during waggon loading and unloading movements (4 degrees of freedom: > > along tracks, transverse to tracks, lifting/lowering, rotation about > > z-axis). > > > > I'm using both a SpaceMouse _and_ a regular mouse for my user > > interface which already introduces the notion of distint foci: > > Spacemouse for crane interactive movement, 2D-Mouse for viewpoint > > manipulation at the same time. > > I can see why you want lots of degrees of freedom, and lots of inputs, > but I don't really see why more of them are "pointers" in the sense I > understand. It may be appropriate to show "cursors" for these independent > actors, but they are application specific. > In this case I think the fact that they are likely to be 3D is > significant. > I'm familiar with the idea of a mouse moving cross-hairs to rotate an > object in 3D, but I'm not sure that I'd expect to see the cross-hairs > if I had a track-ball - I'd just move the ball and expect the object > to follow. > Anyway, an application can take a device and draw its own cursor. > > I see an X pointer being as much connected with a keyboard as a mouse; > what should the X server do with 2 pointers ? Shouldn't it leave the > control of foci within an app up to that app. > > I don't know anything more about XInput, so I'll stop here, > but I hope that I've given you a feeling for why some of us don't > understand > the request for more than one pointer as well as more than one mouse ? > > -- > Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna > > > ___ > Xpert mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert > ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fw: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration manager...
- Original Message - From: "Harold L Hunt II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: RE: Fw: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration manager... > Havoc, > > >See also this thread: > > https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/xdg-list/2002-November/000881.html > > > >And Keith's X extension to monitor selection changes, though this > >won't be in 4.3. > > Wow! That looks really cool and it is already in the tree as xfixes, right? Xfixes was pulled a while ago. Georgina ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: Fw: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration manager...
Mike, > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf > Of Mike A. Harris > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 2:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Fw: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard > integration manager... > > > On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > >>See also this thread: > >> > https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/xdg-list/2002-November/000881.html > >> > >>And Keith's X extension to monitor selection changes, though this > >>won't be in 4.3. > > > >Wow! That looks really cool and it is already in the tree as > >xfixes, right? > > No, it was checked into CVS prior to the November feature cut off > date, but has subsequently been removed from CVS, so it wont be > in 4.3.0, and unfortunately maybe never. > Oh... heh... well, I haven't updated my CVS tree in awhile, so I actually still have the directory with xfixes in it :) Even if the code never gets officially accepted I could at least use it, or a derivative of it, to fix the clipboard problems for Cygwin/XFree86. The extension doesn't have to be perfect for me, since I know that my clipboard integration manager will always be working with the built-in version of that extension. > > >Even though that extension isn't in the XFree86-proper release, > >I might play around with it for the Cygwin-specific release. > >It sounds like the selection monitoring portions of the > >extension will fix my problems with PRIMARY completely! This is > >very exciting! > > Keith might have a diff perhaps or tarball, not sure though. > Thanks for your input, Harold Hunt > -- > Mike A. Harris > > > ___ > Devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: Fw: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integrationmanager...
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >>See also this thread: >> https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/xdg-list/2002-November/000881.html >> >>And Keith's X extension to monitor selection changes, though this >>won't be in 4.3. > >Wow! That looks really cool and it is already in the tree as >xfixes, right? No, it was checked into CVS prior to the November feature cut off date, but has subsequently been removed from CVS, so it wont be in 4.3.0, and unfortunately maybe never. >Even though that extension isn't in the XFree86-proper release, >I might play around with it for the Cygwin-specific release. >It sounds like the selection monitoring portions of the >extension will fix my problems with PRIMARY completely! This is >very exciting! Keith might have a diff perhaps or tarball, not sure though. -- Mike A. Harris ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
RE: Fw: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration manager...
Havoc, >See also this thread: > https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/xdg-list/2002-November/000881.html > >And Keith's X extension to monitor selection changes, though this >won't be in 4.3. Wow! That looks really cool and it is already in the tree as xfixes, right? Even though that extension isn't in the XFree86-proper release, I might play around with it for the Cygwin-specific release. It sounds like the selection monitoring portions of the extension will fix my problems with PRIMARY completely! This is very exciting! Thanks for your help, Harold ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fw: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration manager...
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 05:10:59PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: > > CUT_BUFFER is completely obsolete and totally broken. Most newer apps > > don't even use it. > > > > Right, that is what most people keep telling me. > > However, I am a pragmatic guy. If the current effect is that 99% or > even 75% of applications at least bump a CUT_BUFFER when the cut/copy > text to the clipboard, then I could at least use this as a signal that I > need to grab text from CLIPBOARD. I'm pretty sure no GTK+ application touches it at all. I would be surprised if Qt applications do. Only the older stuff such as Emacs uses CUT_BUFFER. > The problem I have is that almost every commercial X Servers for MS > Windows in existence has solved the problem of clipboard integration > without causing X clients to unhighlight the current selection. Thus, I > know that the problem is solveable. Worse, my users know that the > problem is solveable and they keep asking me to solve it. It sounds a bit like you are mixing up PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD here. > Unfortunately, the ICCCM is about as vague as you can write a document > without inspiring people to put down what they are doing, buy a gun, > actively seek you out, and shoot you dead without bothering to drag you > out into the street. Case in point, the whole MANAGER... the discussion > of which leaves me completely clueless as to i) whether this would > actually help me or not and ii) how to use it: > > http://tronche.com/gui/x/icccm/sec-2.html#s-2.8 Manager selections are an unrelated concept to what you're doing here, I think. They just happen to use the selection feature, just as the clipboard does. Havoc ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fw: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integrationmanager...
Havoc, Havoc Pennington wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 03:11:08PM -0500, G O Economou wrote: In fact, I have made 8 releases :) I originally copied text from CUT_BUFFER0, which worked fine for me. As soon as I released this people started complaining about what it did not do (namely, it didn't handle non-U.S. text). CUT_BUFFER is completely obsolete and totally broken. Most newer apps don't even use it. Right, that is what most people keep telling me. However, I am a pragmatic guy. If the current effect is that 99% or even 75% of applications at least bump a CUT_BUFFER when the cut/copy text to the clipboard, then I could at least use this as a signal that I need to grab text from CLIPBOARD. The problem I have is that almost every commercial X Servers for MS Windows in existence has solved the problem of clipboard integration without causing X clients to unhighlight the current selection. Thus, I know that the problem is solveable. Worse, my users know that the problem is solveable and they keep asking me to solve it. Here is some background information: http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/clipboards.txt Of course you should also read the ICCCM before you do anything here. Oh, I have read it. In fact, I have had it mirrored for a long time: http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/docs/xwindows/ICCCM.pdf Unfortunately, the ICCCM is about as vague as you can write a document without inspiring people to put down what they are doing, buy a gun, actively seek you out, and shoot you dead without bothering to drag you out into the street. Case in point, the whole MANAGER... the discussion of which leaves me completely clueless as to i) whether this would actually help me or not and ii) how to use it: http://tronche.com/gui/x/icccm/sec-2.html#s-2.8 See also this thread: https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/xdg-list/2002-November/000881.html And Keith's X extension to monitor selection changes, though this won't be in 4.3. Yes, that works very worthwhile... but I hope it does not require that all client support the extension. I will figure that out when I read the docs on it later. Thanks so much for your thoughtful response, Harold Hunt Havoc ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fw: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration manager...
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 03:11:08PM -0500, G O Economou wrote: > > In fact, I have made 8 releases :) I originally copied text from > > CUT_BUFFER0, which worked fine for me. As soon as I released this > > people started complaining about what it did not do (namely, it didn't > > handle non-U.S. text). CUT_BUFFER is completely obsolete and totally broken. Most newer apps don't even use it. Here is some background information: http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/clipboards.txt Of course you should also read the ICCCM before you do anything here. See also this thread: https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/xdg-list/2002-November/000881.html And Keith's X extension to monitor selection changes, though this won't be in 4.3. Havoc ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fw: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration manager...
- Original Message - From: "Harold L Hunt II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "G O Economou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration manager... > Oh, but I have already release something: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/changelog.html > > In fact, I have made 8 releases :) I originally copied text from > CUT_BUFFER0, which worked fine for me. As soon as I released this > people started complaining about what it did not do (namely, it didn't > handle non-U.S. text). > > The way that xwinclip copies text was then rewritten to work with > non-U.S. text, which introduced the problem of unhighlighting the > selected text. > > Most recently we integrated the xwinclip functionality into a seperate > thread in the X Server (XWin.exe) process, which works quite well: > http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/changelog.html (see Test73) > > I came up with the idea of monitoring CUT_BUFFER0 for changes to let me > know to copy data from CLIPBOARD only last week. So, I have not > implemented that idea yet and I wanted to see if there were other > options I should explore before moving down that path (since most ideas > I have had do have some drawbacks that I did not anticipate). > > Thanks for your input, > > Harold > > G O Economou wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Harold L Hunt II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "xfree86-devel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:59 AM > > Subject: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration > > manager... > > > > > > > >>...how would you do it, in 150 words or less? > >> > >>Seriously, I have been working on this for over a year and I would love to > >>hear some of the ideas that people have because I am completely stumped on > >>how to make such a clipboard manager work properly. > >> > >>It would be nice if someone responded this time... > >> > >> > >>Harold Hunt > >>Cygwin/XFree86 > >> > > > > > > Harold you are making this issue unnecessarily complicated. You are getting > > lost in the forest for the trees. .. ONe instead of caring about non-US > > users, the few out there that exist, work first on getting something going. > > Then once that is working work on refining > > the process. You cannot make it work with every app out there. MS does not > > do that either. There are too many non-compliant progams written by > > organgutans out there to hit them all. > > Make yours compliant what you consider the major issues (Browsers, Mail > > Managers). Put something out otherwise you marginalise yourself. Basic IT > > 101 but very non CS thinking. > > > > Georgina > > > > > > Yes, there are at least 3 clipboard/cut-buffer mechanisms. We > > originally set out to watch for CUT_BUFFER0 to change, at which point we > > would copy it to the Windows clipboard. That seemed fine, except that > > non-U.S. users screamed bloody murder because CUT_BUFFERs do not let you > > get non ascii/latin1 encoded text. Also, some users claim that not all > > X applications paste data to CUT_BUFFER0. > > > ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fw: Bison/Yacc problems ...
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Jamie Risk wrote: > I don't know where, but I came across a information about bison > version information for compiling XFree86. I'm not hurt that it didn't > come from this list, but even an impolite "Use bison 1.35: RTFM!" > would have been useful. byacc is preferable. (the people working on bison appear to have little interest in keeping it compatible with other flavors of yacc) -- T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fw: Bison/Yacc problems ...
I don't know where, but I came across a information about bison version information for compiling XFree86. I'm not hurt that it didn't come from this list, but even an impolite "Use bison 1.35: RTFM!" would have been useful. Thanks for good work on the other 8 gazillion files that did compile without a hitch. - Jamie - Original Message - From: "Jamie Risk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:17 PM Subject: Bison/Yacc problems ... > After opening the 4.2.0 tar balls and applying the 4.2.0-4.2.1 patch, I find > I'm getting a compiling error when bison tries to process the file > "./lib/Xft/xftgram.y". The CVS/RCS ID for the file is: > > $XFree86: xc/lib/Xft/xftgram.y,v 1.5 2001/05/16 10:32:54 keithp Exp $ > > And the error I get is this: > bison -y -d xftgram.y > xftgram.y:168.8: parse error, unexpected ":", expecting ";" or "|" > xftgram.y:169.3-6: $$ of `matrix' has no declared type > make[3]: *** [xftgram.c] Error 1 > > I checked the other "*.y" files in the distro, and there are other instances > of > what appears to be misplaced/missing semicolons in the grammar rules > sections. > > From the "./xc" directory, I looked for all (six or seven) "*.y" files and > tried > each with BISON version 1.75. > > I modified them all by hand (unwittingly adding semicolons where they made > syntactical sense to me to put them), and the compilation now seems to be > progressing smoothly as I write this. The whole exercise took only a few > minutes. > > As I'm new to X-Windows, particularly to XFree86 and its source code, could > someone verify this? > > Thanks, > - Jamie > > > ___ Devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
