Re: [Development] Using string literals in autotests

2024-03-28 Thread Friedemann Kleint via Development

Hi,

I'd say performance should be a consideration for autotests since they 
are compiled and run over and over again in the CI. So, string theory 
should be applied to avoid unnecessary conversions and allocations. Even 
it is considered a minor optimization, it will have an impact on energy 
consumption & CO2 emission in the end, IMO.


Of course, writing a sophisticated template squeezing out the last bit 
of runtime performance on which the compiler has to chew for a while 
does not help either, since the test is typically compiled and run once.


Surely, the Foundation Team is in the process of creating instructive 
documentation on string theory?


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[Development] Qt Widget Designer: Using fully qualified enumerations in .ui file properties

2023-11-01 Thread Friedemann Kleint via Development

Hi,

I am planning to migrate Qt Widget Designer towards using fully 
qualified enumerations when writing .ui files in 6.7. That is, instead of


QFrame::Box

it will then generate:

QFrame::Shape::Box

The motivation behind this is that it should support scoped enumerations 
and this will be required at some point by Qt for Python.


For properties, uic just generates these values into C++; so it should 
mostly work transparently. There are some corner cases though where some 
checking code in uic/QtUiLoader/Designer needs to changed from


if (v == "Qt::Horizontal") to something like if 
(v.endsWith("::Horizontal"))..


These modifications are planned to trickle through to 6.5 so that tools 
embedding older versions of Qt Designer can handle it.


The question is; do you see any problems with this? Is there tooling out 
there that would trip over this? Would it be worth to make it optional?


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Re: [Development] Nominating Adrian Herrmann as approver for the Qt project

2023-08-22 Thread Friedemann Kleint via Development

Hi,

+1 from  me as well.

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Re: [Development] Compile error on MSVC: '/RTC1' and '/O2' command-line options are incompatible

2023-07-03 Thread Friedemann Kleint via Development

Hi,

this is https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-114925  .

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Re: [Development] CMake UNITY_BUILD ( QTBUG-109394 )

2023-02-13 Thread Friedemann Kleint via Development

Hi,

quick status update: I think the major part of source code changes is 
done, few changes are still in the works or waiting for review. Thanks 
for the reviews and proposals. I think most changes were actually for 
the better and quite some cruft and duplication was unearthed. We are 
hoping to get it all in + a change adding an option to configure so that 
it can be used.


I am now able to build Qt (qtbase/qtdeclarative and additional modules) 
in 10min (home-office), whereas before, qtdeclarative alone would have 
taken longer than that. This shows the potential; also for the projects 
depending on us in terms of server load, time and energy consumption.


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Re: [Development] CMake UNITY_BUILD ( QTBUG-109394 )

2023-01-23 Thread Friedemann Kleint via Development
Hi,

thank you for the reponses; so we conclude that we should support it and use it 
partially in COIN, ideally for slow platforms. I will try to focus on qtbase 
and qttools. qtdeclarative would also be a worthy goal; would someone be up for 
it? Basically the changes linked to 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-109394 and 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/PYSIDE-2155  give you an idea what to do.

As for Shawn asking whether the concatenation is deterministic; in my 
experience, it is.

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Re: [Development] New Qt example development guideline and revamping examples

2023-01-19 Thread Friedemann Kleint via Development
Hi,

we also need to agree on whether the Qt library rules apply to the full extent; 
for example:

- Do we use the modern string literals (u"bla"_s, previously, example code just 
constructed QString from ASCII and did not care about -DQT_NO_CAST_FROM_ASCII, 
IIRC)
- Should tr() be used for all  user-facing messages (although examples mostly 
do not have translations set up)
- Do we use std::as_const to avoid detaching containers in loops (mostly 
missing for code ported from Q_FOREACH)

and probably some more?

Generally, when polishing examples, I found that member initialization greatly 
simplifies code.

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[Development] CMake UNITY_BUILD ( QTBUG-109394 )

2023-01-16 Thread Friedemann Kleint via Development

Hi,

I would like to propose considering making Qt suitable for CMake 
UNITY_BUILDs ( https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-109394 , 
https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/prop_tgt/UNITY_BUILD.html ) .


This has originally been proposed for Qt for Python  ( 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/PYSIDE-2155 ). It has greatly benefited 
from it; builds are much faster; particuarly for us in home-office where 
no distributed build environment exists.


It is basically what webengine has been using for a long time: Source 
files are concatenated to jumbo files which are then compiled.


For Qt for Python with its lots of generated files, the speed-up is 
drastic (~10x); for an average module (qttools), less so, but still:


Initial build of qttools:

Standard (675 files): real 3m26,016s / user 19m4,352s / sys 1m48,346s
Unity (203 files)   : real 2m2,557s  / user 9m40,147s / sys 0m47,144s 
(CMAKE_UNITY_BUILD_BATCH_SIZE=16)


with CCACHE/warmed up:

Standard (675 files): real 1m50,605s / user 8m9,512s  / sys 1m9,187s
Unity (203 files)   : real 1m30,990s / user 5m11,773s / sys 0m39,687s

Increasing CMAKE_UNITY_BUILD_BATCH_SIZE might also give better results.

Some modifications of the source code are required, though. The majority 
is actually improvements; things like missing header guards and macro 
re-definitions immediately show up; also Q_DECLARE_METATYPE() can be 
removed (see 
https://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/development/2022-July/042744.html ).


But there is also a part that is more questionable; static functions 
need to be disambiguated; "using namespace" can cause clashes; class 
member fields from anonymous namespaces cause errors ( 
-Werror=subobject-linkage producing qerrormessage.cpp:38:7: error: 
‘QErrorMessagePrivate’ has a field ‘QErrorMessagePrivate::pending’ whose 
type uses the anonymous namespace ) and similar.


Some things are not fixable; exclusions can be done on a source file or 
project level. Alternatively, one can group suitable source files 
together; but this requires more work.


In development work, if COIN uses UNITY_BUILD, there is also a small 
risk of changes with missing header files being accepted.


Summmarising: we stand to gain a speed-up of compilation; particularly 
for clean builds like in COIN; but it requires some work. We might do a 
step-by step approach process enabling modules one by one. What do you 
think?


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Re: [Development] Nominating Shyamnath Premnadh as approver

2022-12-05 Thread Friedemann Kleint via Development

Hi,

+1 from me as well.

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Re: [Development] How to do deprecation

2022-08-01 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

> TL;DR: there's a new [[Deprecation]] wiki page, please review.

It misses an important part, IMO:

Try to get an idea of the impact of your planned deprecation by building 
all of Qt and ideally Qt Creator (producing patches fixing the 
deprecation warnings).


If that turns into an huge exercise taking several days, it becomes 
clear that the deprecation is not feasible.



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Re: [Development] Windows maintainer change

2021-06-17 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Also +1 for the new maintainers from me and I wish them great success.

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Re: [Development] Confused about HiDPI scaling and fonts

2021-02-09 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

it seems there is a misunderstanding here: Qt High  DPI scaling 
preserves the  point-size of the fonts; they are sized according to the 
system metrics.


All it does is pretend a lower resolution to the application so that 
apps written for 96DPI continue to work.


It is not a means of zooming the application (as opposed to 
QT_SCALE_FACTOR ).


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Re: [Development] QProperty and library coding guide

2020-07-16 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 > QProperty can be exposed to the meta object system, and behaves just
   like a getter/setter/signal property there.

 > Rather, the focus is currently on classes in QtCore, QtNetwork, and
QtGui

QtGui's QAction is relevant for Qt Designer. This would be a test case for the 
compatibility.

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Re: [Development] QProperty and library coding guide

2020-07-16 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 > 3) how QProperty is source-compatible with Qt 5 user code.

Specifically, it needs to be transparently visible in QMetaObject like 
old-style properties and setting/retrieving properties via  name and QVariant 
needs to work for Qt Designer's property editor. Code generation via uic also 
needs to work transparently.

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Re: [Development] Qt 5.13 & 5.14 add device-independent pixels to device-dependent

2020-01-31 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 > But the case of linear arrangement of screens can be solved. The only 
questions are whether it's necessary to  solve it to get the 
currently-broken applications fixed and if it is, how to detect the 
cases where we can and when to give up.

Just for the record: If you switch Windows to DPI awareness = 1 (system 
DPI aware) as opposed to Qt's default (2, per monitor DPI aware), you 
will also get screen arrangements with gaps from the system when 
differently sized monitors are connected.

So, Qt needs to deal  with that situation and I don't think we should be 
trying to rearrange screens.

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Re: [Development] Plans of platforms in the CI and released binaries

2020-01-06 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 > I did not know about ticket 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-74687 where discussions about 
Windows 7 in Qt6 have been discussed. Nor did apparently no one else in 
our meetings, > since we were not told about those discussions.

Neither did we know that you were making plans when discussing this ... ;-)

 > So without anyone really responding to this thread, am I still to 
understand that you wish to have Windows 7 in Qt 5.15 CI? (and even if I 
get 2 replies that say “hell yeah”, those 2 might be the only 2 people 
in the world using that )

Hell, yeah,  in 5.15 at least until RHI is stable...

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Re: [Development] Plans of platforms in the CI and released binaries

2020-01-03 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

for Win32, my 2c would be:

- As already stated at 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qt5/+/285317 , we still need 
Windows 7  since as it stands today, it will still be supported (for 
some time) in Qt 6. Since it is very easy to break it by using some 
too-new API (especially in the light of RHI), this needs to be tested in 
some form

- For static builds, it seems that -static , -static-runtime now works 
with MSVC2019, so, from the Win32 perspective, there is no need to keep  
MS 2015?

- Clang should be clang 8 or 9, clang-cl preferably

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Re: [Development] QAction in Qt 6 - next step proposal

2019-11-27 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 > I didn't know that there is going to be one more subclass. Will 
QQuickAction be a public class?

In Qt 5, AFAIK it exists with duplicated code in QuickControls1,2 as a 
class exposed to QML (no public C++ class). The duplication (and also 
need for the functionality for WebAction) is one of the reasons for the 
change.

In QML3, it could become a public class indeed.. it could be sth like

namespace Quick { class Action ...};

 >in QtGui/qaction.h

 > // forward declare classes from QtWidget
 > class QMenu;
 > class QWidget;

Again, this poses huge problems for Qt for Python (besides being a 
questionable design).

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Re: [Development] QAction in Qt 6 - next step proposal

2019-11-27 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

as discussed on the change, there is not much one can do with the newly 
introduced QGuiAction; it serves as a base class for QAction and 
QQuickAction, The naming follows the Q(Gui)Application pattern.

 > QMenu *menu() const;
 > -> static QMenu *QMenu::menuForAction(QAction *action);

 > void setMenu(QMenu *menu);
 > -> static void QMenu::setMenuForAction(QAction *action, QMenu *menu);

This  in my opinion is a no-go, we cannot do source-incompatible changes 
in this area because there have been many deprecations already and code 
needs to compile against 5 and 6 with minimal changes.

Ofc, having one QAction class in QtGui is desirable; but it must not 
infer source-incompatible changes (and no, hacks like forward declaring 
QWidget from QtGui or similar are also a no-go since it causes trouble 
for Qt for Python).

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[Development] QTCS2019 Notes from Qt Solutions session

2019-11-22 Thread Friedemann Kleint
  at https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_Contributors_Summit_2019_Qt_Solutions

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[Development] QTCS2019 Notes from the Qt 6 Changes / Migration session

2019-11-22 Thread Friedemann Kleint
  at 
https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_Contributors_Summit_2019_Qt_6_Changes_/_Migration

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[Development] QTCS2019 Notes from the High DPI session

2019-11-22 Thread Friedemann Kleint
  at https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_Contributors_Summit_2019_HighDpi

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Re: [Development] Issues with QFormBuilder - All properties modified & Invalid UI

2019-10-29 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 >Could at least a note at the official documentation be added stating 
that the method generates an invalid UI file and it must not be used?

Note proposed: https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qttools/+/279377

 > It is for sure a bug, so please report it. I'm not sure how much love 
the widgets designer gets these days, though.

As explained before, it cannot be guaranteed that changing all 
properties in random order works in Widgets.

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Re: [Development] Issues with QFormBuilder - All properties modified & Invalid UI

2019-10-28 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 >Just a little follow up. Can this (invalid widget being generated by 
QFormBuilder.save ) be considered a Qt issue and fixed?The "all 
properties changed" is not a big deal, the incorrect form is.

This cannot realistically be supported, I am afraid. Simply changing all 
properties from bottom to top may hit on a number of corner cases where 
properties are not orthogonal and have interactions causing misbehavior.

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Re: [Development] Issues with QFormBuilder - All properties modified & Invalid UI

2019-10-21 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 > I am trying to use the QFormBuilder to load and later save a ".ui" file.
 > The issue is that the generated file shows all properties as modified 
but the code just open the file and save it with a new name.

QFormBuilder writes out all properties since plain Qt properties do not 
store whether they were modified. The book-keeping required for this 
only exists in Qt Designer.

Some unsupported properties/flags may then be encountered.

 > Is there a better approach to save QWidgets as ".ui" from code?

No, unfortunately.

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Re: [Development] Qt 6: inline namespace Qt

2019-09-09 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

just for the record, I would like to point out that the implications on 
tooling need to be considered:

The clang-C-API (libclang) as used by Qt for Python, qdoc (and 
potentially lupdate) does not know about inline namespaces AFAIK; the 
code would have to ported to the Clang C++ API.

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Re: [Development] Dev branch moving towards Qt 6

2019-08-19 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 >To reflect that and help us all understand that the development focus 
is now towards Qt 6, I would like to propose that dev becomes the

 > Qt 6 branch after we branched away 5.14

How long do we keep merging 5.14->dev? At what point do we go into 
cherry-pick mode for 5.14->dev? This should probably be done after 5.14 
API review and initial testing at the earliest?

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Re: [Development] Supported compilers for Qt 6

2019-08-13 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 > VC++ 2019

Just for the record, this compiler still has a number of optimizer bugs, 
see https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTQAINFRA-2875 .

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Re: [Development] QTestlib: how not to test mouseMoveEvent handling

2019-07-09 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

AFAIK Gatis  is working this (see 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-69414 ). There is a magic define

widgets/widgets/qcombobox/qcombobox.pro:4:DEFINES += 
QTEST_QPA_MOUSE_HANDLING
widgets/widgets/qmenu/qmenu.pro:9:    DEFINES += QTEST_QPA_MOUSE_HANDLING

which apparently changes behavior. Alternatively, the overloads of 
QTest::mouse*() that take a QWindow * can be used, which should act more 
sane. This might require some coordinate mapping, though.

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[Development] New \nullptr qdoc macro in 5.12, please start using it

2019-01-18 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

in Qt 5.12; there is a new \nullptr qdoc macro to be used for nullptr 
(see "Documentation: Add \nullptr macro and use where applicable" 
3eac688ec005833509bffc7097c378af9c5b515f 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/249583/ ).

The underlying motivation (besides using modern C++) is  that Qt for 
Python users trip over the documentation stating "0 can be passed to 
this pointer * parameter...), thinking they can pass (int) 0 (see 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/PYSIDE-903 ).

I would like to encourage the maintainers to go through their 
documentation and look for things like "void *foo() \** returns 0 
when..." or "0 can be passed to this pointer * parameter")  and change 
this to \nullptr (see fex https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/249610/ ).

This will then expand to None in the Qt for Python documentation.

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Re: [Development] Nominating Christian Ehrlicher for Approver

2018-11-20 Thread Friedemann Kleint
+1 from me as well; many thanks for your contributions!

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Re: [Development] Nominating Cristián Maureira-Fredes for approver

2018-10-15 Thread Friedemann Kleint
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Re: [Development] Noninating André de la Rocha for Approver

2018-07-26 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

+1 from me, too, (same office though); UI and Pointer message handling 
were great jobs.


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Re: [Development] Why Widget::grabMouse() installs WH_JOURNALRECORD hook on Windows in Qt 4.8.x

2018-04-27 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

>    journalRec = SetWindowsHookEx(WH_JOURNALRECORD, 
(HOOKPROC)qJournalRecordProc, GetModuleHandle(0), 0);
>   Since this clearly a hack that was obviously needed to make mouse 
grabbing working, I would very much like to know why it was done in this 
way and what was the original problem.


some digging in the history failed to reveal any information on why  
this done; the code can be safely removed, I think.


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Re: [Development] Clazy results for Qt codebase

2017-10-17 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

interesting - would it it be possible to provide it as a Creator task 
file (simple tab-separated file to be loaded into Creator's issue pane,  
see http://doc.qt.io/qtcreator/creator-task-lists.html  )? That would it 
make it easy to click through and fix.


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[Development] Writing good tests

2017-10-09 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

here is the link to the Wiki on "Writing good tests" as requested at QtCS: 
http://wiki.qt.io/Writing_good_tests  .

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Re: [Development] ChangeLog entries and reverted commits

2017-07-31 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

have a look at https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/201164/ for the 
Perl script.


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Re: [Development] Automatic detection of Visual Studio Compiler

2017-04-26 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

please make sure you don't have QMAKESPEC set in the environment (see 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-60016 ).


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Re: [Development] qdoc for C++ and QML

2017-04-25 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

btw, we are facing a similar problem when generating the documentation 
for the PySide2 project (Python bindings for Qt). The code snippets are 
different; most of the text is similar.

So, the issue could be generalized for any language bindings of Qt.

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Re: [Development] qdoc for C++ and QML

2017-04-24 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

For starters, take a look at the script:

http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt-creator/qt-creator.git/tree/scripts/qdoc2tasks.pl?h=4.3

You can pipe the error output of qdoc through it to convert it to a Qt 
Creator task file. Opening it in Qt Creator will show the issues as 
build issues (see http://doc.qt.io/qtcreator/creator-task-lists.html ) 
and you can then click through them.


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[Development] QUIP for choosing a branch

2017-01-04 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

as a result of the QtCon 2016 discussion on Managing Qt's Branches ( 
http://wiki.qt.io/QtCS2016_Managing_Qt_Branches ), we would like to 
provide some guidelines on which branch to choose for a change. Please 
find attached a QUIP which is available for review at 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/178906/ .


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QUIP: 5
Title: Choosing a Branch
Version: $Revision$
Last-Modified: $Date$
Author: Jędrzej Nowacki, Friedemann Kleint
Status: Draft
Type: Process
Created: 2016-12-05


 Choosing a Branch


Motivation
--

This QUIP aims to provide some guidelines on what branch to choose for a
change. It originated from the
`QtCS2016 Managing Qt Branches 
<http://wiki.qt.io/QtCS2016_Managing_Qt_Branches>`_
session.

Goal of the LTS branches (5.6 at the time of writing)
-

- Support slower moving OSes
- Fix bugs in applications that were already shipped bundling the LTS and
  continue to build against the LTS
- Have a low regression risk
- Add new minor platforms (if and only if changes are minimal like
  win8 => win8.1)
- Documentation clarifications

We divide the LTS into 3 periods (assuming cherry-pick contribution model):

- 5.6.0 *relaxed*: We assume that people still develop applications with the
  LTS or they are porting to it, so they are more willing to take a risk of
  regressions or general brokenness in Qt.
- 5.6.x *strict* At that point applications should be working with the LTS or
  be shipped. It is not allowed to break existing bug workarounds, even if the
  bug is fixed. For people using the LTS release, there is no real gain in
  rewriting working code.
- 5.6.y *very strict* 2 years after the .0 release, we believe that there are
  no more P1, P0.

where x = 1 year from .0 release and y = 2 years from .0 release

Goal of the stable branches (5.x)
-

- Bug fixes
- Performance fixes
- Documentation fixes
- As a special case, pre-release stabilization of the dev branch

Goal of the dev branch:
---

- New feature development
- Major refactoring
- Risky changes, requiring longer testing period (moc, qmake...)
- Completely new platforms (WinRT)

Approach


The table below lists typical code changes and points to which branch the
change should be pushed. In all cases, we need to estimate impact of the
change. For example, a fix for a performance problem may end-up in a different
branch depending on: how many users are affected, how big is the improvement
and what is the risk of regressions. The table shows the most stable branch,
for every case. If a change is risky or it has lower impact, then it should
be placed in a less stable branch.

++-++-++-+-+
||LTS || |  
   |
|+-++-+ Stable | Dev | 
Notes   |
| Issue  | Relaxed | Strict | Very Strict || |  
   |
++-++-++-+-+
| Security   | x   |x   |x|   x| |  
   |
++-++-++-+-+
| 3rd party update   | x   |x   |x|   x| |  
   |
++-++-++-+-+
| Test improvement   | x   |x   |x|   x| |  
   |
| (reduce flakiness) | || || |  
   |
++-++-++-+-+
| Adapt to minor OS/ | x   |x   |x|   x| |  
   |
| Compiler updates   | || || |  
   |
++-++-++-+-+
| Memory leak| x   |x   | |   x| |  
   |
++-++-++-+-+
| Fix to feature added   | x   |x   | |   x| |  
   |
| in LTS | || || |  
   |
++-++-++-+-+
| Undefined behavior | x   |x   | 

Re: [Development] A new approach for Qt main()

2016-12-09 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

from the Windows POV, support for wmain() with wide arguments would be a 
nice thing to have (see https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-46118 ):


int wmain( int argc, wchar_t *argv[ ], wchar_t *envp[ ] )

Maybe that can be implemented by some smart modularization.

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Re: [Development] A new approach for Qt main()

2016-12-09 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

> Q_GUI_MAIN(appInit, appExit);

Magic macros for main should be avoided, IMO.

A typical application main() can look like

 main()
 {
QApplication a();

Initialization code for other libraries

parseArguments(), return if failed

show some FileDialog prompting for argument if sth was missing

try {
  app.exec()
} catch (exception) {
}
De-Initialize something
 }

There is no way to shoehorn this into some macro; this can already be 
observed when trying to adding some initialization to a test.


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Re: [Development] git 5.8.0 build failure with vs 2017 rc error C3615: constexpr function 'QAlgorithmsPrivate::qt_builtin_ctz' cannot result in a constant exp ression

2016-12-05 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

>My try to build qt 5.8.0 from git using vs2017 rc (CL 19.10.24629) 
failed already when building configure. (commit 
2c27ccd1c9a821edd071cae6336ecb2066ce2ab7)
>the qt 5.8 beta did work. Using  CL 19.00.24213.1 (vs2015 upd3 + kb) 
also works.
>does anyone have the same problem? Probably constexpr was activated 
for this compiler but not tested.



Please make sure you have "Fixed build using Visual Studio 2017" 
a103992f49045323a3aaa4970eb1ee5f65a378dd 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/177743/ applied.


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Re: [Development] QCS2016 Session Notes - QUIPs for Qt

2016-09-21 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

technically speaking: is using the .rst format set in stone? I find this 
difficult to handle; one needs a local web server to view it AFAIK. .md 
comes to mind as alternative?


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[Development] Notes on "Managing Qt's branches" session @ QCS 2016

2016-09-07 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

the notes are at: https://wiki.qt.io/QtCS2016_Managing_Qt_Branches

* Number of existing branches (5.6LTS, 5.7.,5.8 dev) causes a number of 
problems


** Strain on COIN which also has release branches
** Merging becomes increasingly difficult
** Hard to manage for individual developers

* Branches

** Close 5.7 after 5.7.1. We then have LTS, stable, dev.
** After 5.7 is closed and sanity bot is upgraded (to handle 
cherry-picking), go into cherrypicking mode for 5.6. Developer is 
responsible for doing the cherrypicking
** Cherry-picking technicalities need to be figured out: Let sanity bot 
verify source ("cherrypicked from") the SHA1
** In the future, exact time for closing stable branches will be 
discussed for each one individually


* Submit Policy

** Target which branch?

** Long Term Support (5.6) Branch
*** Initially equal to stable, increasingly strict over time: Fix only 
severe issues, avoid regressions.


*** Bugs: For example, P2 for the first year, P1 for year 2, rest 
Security. Try to further objectify that: Jedrzei + Friedemann

*** Tests: Fix/stabilize tests itself, add tests
*** No performance improvements unless really significant 
(relevant/reduces O(n))

*** Upgrading 3rd party (including WebEngine)
*** Support new OS versions unless introducing new platforms, no rewrite 
of QPA

*** No cleanups, positively: -> dev
*** To aid customers with issues, patches for issues in LTS to be 
locally applied can be provided, but the fixes will be pushed to higher 
versions of Qt.



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Re: [Development] Programs crashing left and right in the CI

2016-07-27 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

to summarize for Windows:

- Crashes have been observed over time in various tests, mostly in 
QtCore (QDir,QFile, QProcess see fex 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-47370


- It only affects 64bit (!) (correct me if you have observed otherwise)

- It never has been observed for MinGW (most likely since we don't have 
64bit MinGW builds?)


>It's also possible that the Windows code is simply recovering, and that
>QTest::toString is actually causing the crash. In other words, it's 
possible

>the code that deals with crashes in QtTest is causing the crash.

I think the QTest::toString appearing is an artifact of the code that 
walks the stack.


We know that it seems to depends on some obscure CI parameters (load?), 
so far, we have not been able to see anything useful in the stack traces.


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Re: [Development] MSVC2012 in CI

2016-04-07 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

>I'd love to remove it, but it's blocked by 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-51934
>We cannot just remove test coverage without testing some of the 
features on more modern platforms.


We blacklisted the test for the moment, so, we could switch to MSVC2015 now.

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[Development] Security bulletin: Deprecating QRect

2016-04-01 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

as discussed in the thread "Re: [Development] Fixing QRect::width() / 
height()", QRect can be misused to trigger undefined behaviour. This 
pattern has been observed in recent ransomware attacks using the new 
High DPI feature in Qt 5.6 to place windows at bottom right positions on 
High DPI screens inducing undefined behaviour. To fix this, the class 
QRect will be deprecated as of now in a patch release 5.6.0.1. The 
maintainers are kindly asked for a quick review of 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/154371 and the release team to prepare 
the patch release.


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Re: [Development] High-DPI on Win

2016-01-04 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

>(3) Don't calculate the scale from the display resolution 
(QPlatformScreen::pixelDensity()). >In QT5.5 the devicePixelRatio is 
obviously set to either 1.0 or 2.0 depending on the >resolution of the 
display. I'm not sure for Qt5.6, but it seems to be alike here. However, 
in Win the >user can set a scaling such as 100%, 125%, 150%, 200%, and 
250%, and the user >can do so - and may want to do so - for whatever 
display she/he is using (anyone with ailing eyes is >happy to use 125% 
on regular screens, or 250% on HDPI screens ;)). So - IMHO - >the 
devicePixelRatio should actually be set to exactly this value, 
independent on any display resolution.


The Windows setting is not related to any scaling done by Qt. It only 
changes the return values of the metrics functions (logical DPI, font + 
icon sizes, etc); no devicePixelRatio scaling is done there.


>Sadly, I must agree with you that Qt does indeed not handle high-dpi 
windows very well L   I have Qt applications that I cannot use on my 
system, and have resorted to qt.conf to >turn off DPI-awareness for 
them; fuzzy scaling was preferable to not being able to use the application.


There is a restriction currently in that the Windows styles are not 
suitable for scaling. We recommend using Fusion style for High DPI.


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Re: [Development] Pixelated UI elements in Windows HiDPI mode (5.6)

2015-11-10 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

>I don't see tickets in Jira for any of these.

Please do not create unrelated, single tickets for each issue. 
Previously, we had https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-40277 "Adapt 
styles to High DPI" (related to 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-46615 "Implement High DPI scaling 
v2 (5.6)"). QTBUG-40277 could be cleaned up listing the remaining items 
or a new report linked to QTBUG-46615 could be created in a similar fashion.


Also note that the Windows styles do not support scaling (and will not 
for the foreseeable future); we recommend using Fusion style (or Mac 
style on OS X).


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Re: [Development] qtbase 5.5 CI broken again ?

2015-07-23 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

As far as I know, no. No one has a clue why the creation of a temporary
directory is failing.

It is simply running out of patterns to try since the mime DB tests 
leaked temp dirs. https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/121381/ fixed 
QDir::removeRecursively() to try harder removing files and 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/121383/ fixed the test to set 
write permission on the temp files it creates; the test should no longer 
leak.


All that remains to be done is reboot the Windows CI nodes and clean out 
their temp directories.


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Re: [Development] 5.5 CI having problems on tst_qmimedatabase-xml

2015-07-14 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

the log says it all when running it:

QTemporaryDir: Unable to remove D:\\temp\\tst_qmimedatabase-l9Mfi9 
most likely due to the presence of read-only files.

That is, either there are readonly files left behind or some sub-process 
of the test is sitting on some files in the temp dir and  
QTemporaryDir runs out of patterns to try for a unique name next 
time...I will check.

Rebooting that CI node and cleaning its temp dir may help for the moment.


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Re: [Development] 5.5 CI having problems on tst_qmimedatabase-xml

2015-07-14 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

the test leaves a tempdir containing read-only  test files behind, but I 
fail  to see where they come from ATM.  Could the maintainers have a 
look, please?

IIRC, there was a change in testlib unpacking resources to a temporary 
dir that initially had this issue (creating read-only files), but that 
was fixed and I don't see the respective macro here.

Anyways, since this issue occurs every now and then in some  test, I am 
proposing https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/121381/ to ensure 
deletion of the temp dir succeeds in this case as well.

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Re: [Development] Testability Driver

2015-05-28 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 adly we're not using it in Canonical any more. TDriver did a good job 
with Qt4 apps. But it was desired to have a single tool to test multiple 
toolkits (Qt  GTK  Html5) using python, so  we ended up building our 
own: AutoPilot [1]. IMO TDriver is more powerful though.

Does this mean the code introduced by 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/66513/ can be removed ? - No need 
to keep dead code?

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Re: [Development] Rotating JPEG images by default

2015-04-17 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 If we go with the QImageReader level, it could be an 
QImageIOHandler::Option,
 and possibly be set different between JPEG and TIFF by default. The real
 problem is what we decide the default for JPEG should be now.

Can we add an API making this settable until the beta?  - I think 
automatic rotation is a really cool feature for any viewer-like 
application and saves writing a lot of quite advanced code (using memory 
mapping of files and endian-dependent word fiddling on platforms that 
don't have libexif or similar).

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Re: [Development] Why is QTBUG-27186 closed?

2015-04-02 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

the behavior of the widgets-based dialog is equivalent to Qt 4.X and 
that was the end of the story back then. As reading material for Easter, 
I pushed up a proposal to gerrit ( 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/109815/ ). I expect KDE 5 will 
(again) provide a spectactular native file dialog?

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Re: [Development] qt3d examples with qt5.5 crashing

2015-03-12 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 When i try to run any of the compiled qt3d application's release 
version.The application crashes, and this are the error details 
collected by windows:

I don''t see any crashes with MSVC2013 64bit/5.5. Can you please provide 
a stack trace and the output of the qtdiag tool?

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[Development] Please update the maintainer table at http://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Maintainers

2015-03-01 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

I recovered the tables of the maintainer page which was clobbered in the 
Wiki transition process, but it still needs some updating content-wise. 
Please take a look at: http://wiki.qt.io/index.php?title=Maintainers .

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Re: [Development] Qtbase 5.5 branch is blocked

2015-02-24 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

there is https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-44434 describing the 
issue, but there does not seem to be a conclusion yet. It is unlikely 
that the issue is fixed by the merge or goes away magically; it would be 
appreciated if the accessibilty experts could take a look.

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Re: [Development] Problem porting app from Qt4 to Qt5 with multiple X-screen

2015-02-10 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 Ok, now at least all widgets with a desktop widget as parent are 
created on the correct screen. But as soon as I open a child window 
(e.g. the file open dialog on my example) this is created on the 
applications primary screen. Should I fill a bug report for this?

Yes please, with a small example (see 
http://qt-project.org/wiki/ReportingBugsInQt ) . Do you pass a parent 
widget to the dialog?

 Qt4 I'm using QX11EmbedWidget/EmbedContainer.
  In Qt5 I use QWidget::createWindowContainer() + 
QWindow::fromWinId(). The simple testcase (a QWidget on client and 
server side) works as expected but I my application it does

To my knowledge, the window container functionality is not intended for 
this purpose ( see related issue 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-34771 ).

 btw: Is it correct that QScreen::geometry() returns 0/0 every time 
(openSUSE 13.2/Qt 5.3.2 rpm)

As size?  -  it should report the correct geometry. Which desktop 
environment is this?

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Re: [Development] Problem porting app from Qt4 to Qt5 with multiple X-screen

2015-02-09 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 we've multiple X-screens configured (:0.0 ... :0.3) but Qt5 seems to 
have lost the ability to display something on another screen than the 
default
  QMainWindow *wm = new QMainWindow(dw-screen(1));

Change https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/105285/ for 
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-44070 should improve that.

 embedding an application window into another application doesn't work 
correct - the embeded window gets resized with the master but as soon as 
I click somewhere in the master, the embedded window is hidden by the 
master.

How do you embed the window?

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Re: [Development] Event loop of Qt window in DLL injected into another process

2014-10-21 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-40881 might be related?

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Re: [Development] Qt 5.4.0 Beta snapshot available

2014-10-15 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 To avoid further delaying of the final release, I'm going to pull
 QVersionNumber from 5.4.

careful: it is already used in: 
qtactiveqt/examples/activeqt/webbrowser/main.cpp


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Re: [Development] FW: Change in qt/qtactiveqt[5.4]: Update license headers and add new license files

2014-08-26 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

  That said, he surely has less time for Qt. Is the cmake integration 
creating any problems?

Every now and then, we hit on a failure (fex with dynamic GL).  So far, 
these have been simple compile/link errors in the tests, but the issue 
is that we might hit a wall once we really need to adapt some 
Cmakelist.txt, etc.

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Re: [Development] Qt High-dpi QtCS report and patch status (on hold)

2014-07-04 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-38858 is there to track 
progress .

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[Development] Guidelines for reporting bugs in Qt

2014-07-03 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

as a result of internal discussions at Digia, I have updated 
http://qt-project.org/wiki/ReportingBugsInQt a bit. The motivation 
behind this is that we want the bug reports as good as possible since 
many roles in the Qt project deal with them (developers, code reviewers, 
release managers, people trying to check for regressions, ...) and thus 
it is important that bug reports are easy to understand and to reproduce.

I would like to have more opinions on the guidelines at 
http://qt-project.org/wiki/ReportingBugsInQt . Is there anything missing 
that would make fixing bugs easier in the modules you maintain?

Once we have the guidelines in a good shape, they will be shown 
prominently on the JIRA-landing page.

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[Development] Windows QtCS Session, MSVC compiler versions

2014-06-19 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

here are the notes from the Windows session:

https://qt-project.org/groups/qt-contributors-summit-2014/wiki/Qs2014Windows

We had a bit of discussion around whether to update the compilers during 
the lifetime of a minor release. This is relevant for 5.3 since it is 
planned to be supported for a longer time. For example, for MSVC-2013, 
options are:

- Stick with the RTM / original version of MSVC-2013 for the lifetime of 
5.3 since 5.3.0 was shipped with it
- Update now to MSVC-2013 Update 2 and leave it as is for the lifetime 
of 5.3
- Keep updating continuously

There are pros and cons for all options. With MSVC, it has happened that 
the runtime was changed by service packs in incompatible ways causing 
breakage. On the other hand, sticking to one version means that at some 
point it no longer matches what everyone else out there is using.

What do you think?

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Re: [Development] Bringing Qt's high-dpi support to more platforms

2014-05-26 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

for Desktop Windows, this is tracked by 
https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-38993 . On Windows, the 
application can choose between several levels of DPI-Awareness. The 
idea is right now to leave the choice to the programmer and make sure Qt 
does not get in the way and does scaling behind the scenes where needed.

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Re: [Development] Updating JIRA components relating to events.

2014-05-07 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 Can we get a few volunteer default assignees for the components I 
suggested?

I am volunteering for QPA: windows

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Re: [Development] utf-8 BOM and parsers

2014-04-16 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

this is tracked by https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-37423 
- keeping an eye on the release blocking bugs 
https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-37065 occasionally helps 
to minimize surprises ;-) .

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Re: [Development] QWindow::setScreen() and QQuickWindow

2014-04-16 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

actually re-creating the window is a bit wasteful given that the screens 
are part of a larger virtual desktop in most cases. A move() would be 
sufficient. The QWindow/QScreen logic as it is is somehow not well 
suited for virtual desktops in which the screen is determined by the 
geometry.

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Re: [Development] The Dynamic OpenGL on Windows Change

2014-02-28 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 Thank you. Sorry this means it gets reverted for now. I think we all 
agree that having the common ES2 / desktop 2 subset magically work 
everywhere on Windows

Ok, technically speaking, how do we get this through the CI (considering 
the modules which have follow-up changes ..can we leave the 
functionality providing the isES()  function in place?

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Re: [Development] RFC: [Logging] Add quote(), noquote() stream modifiers to QDebug

2014-02-28 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

how about omitting quotes automatically for anything else but Q[C]Debug?
The common problem seems to me that warning messages automatically get 
quotes which looks semi-professional:

qWarning()  Cannot open:  file.name()  :   file.errorString();

typically results in:

Cannot open: foo.txt : No such file

It is also conceivable to use quotes only for empty strings in 
qWarning/qCritical/qFatal.

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Re: [Development] The Dynamic OpenGL on Windows Change

2014-02-27 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

the intention was here to pave to way for a software renderer for 
platforms that have no GL at all (virtual machines,  remote logins, etc, 
see https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-36091 ).

The initial versions of https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,76732 
had a separate QOpenGLProxy module, but we decided to move it into 
Qt5Gui since otherwise the user would have to deploy yet another 
library. But having a separate module would not help in the scenario you 
described (3rd party renderer of some sort e.g. VTK, OpenSceneGraph...), 
either?

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Re: [Development] Ameliorate API Reviewing (Was: On the effectiveness of time based releases)

2014-02-25 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 - Have an API review board, and for

A review board would indeed be a good thing to have, not necessarily 
restricted to API reviews only.

The problem also currently is that reviewers are distracted by a lot of 
mundane things (check for compilation, compiler warnings, check 
indentation style, style issues, check for potential performance issues, 
messages, spelling, functionality smoke testing, checking autotests...), 
potentially over quite a few review rounds.

If there was a review board (supported by more automated testing) making 
sure each change passes all those criteria before a developer gets to 
see it, it would be a lot easier to focus on the API.

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Re: [Development] Plans for printing in 5.3 onwards

2014-02-12 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 The main issues outstanding I see:

My finding using Windows 8.1 / HP Color LaserJet 6030 MFP PS Class 
Driver is that the default paper size is B5 (instead of letter/A4) and 
it simply does not print (using A4), although the code calling 
EndPage/EndDoc is executed.

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Re: [Development] Maintanance break in CI on Saturday

2013-12-19 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

There is also a fix for the failing tst_qquicktrailemitter in 
declarative/stable (see 
https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-33421 , 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,60072 )  , so, a merge 
stable-dev for qtdeclarative might further improve things.

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Re: [Development] Qt5 release integration build

2013-12-11 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 I suppose that the warnings in the list beneath are still unsolved. Is 
that correct?
 How critical is it to solve those warnings? If they are critical for 
the release, I want to give a helping hand to remove them (after all 
there are more than 900, the list below is a synopsis).

The libraries and examples should be fairly clean; we keep an eye on it 
(MSVC2012 or MinGW64, typically). Fixing all warnings in the tests is a 
different matter. Warnings there are not that critical and things like 
'unsafe std::copy()' or similar can be safely be ignored there.

Talking about tests: The test .pro-files still have a lot of DEFINES += 
QT_DISABLE_DEPRECATED_BEFORE=0  . Getting rid of those (unless the test 
actually tests deprecated API)  is IMO more important than fixing other 
warnings since that is going to hit us at some point (in Qt  6 at the 
very latest).

The usual technique for fixing warnings is to push one change per 
warning type for easier review (for example, fix all signed/unsigned 
comparisons in one change).

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Re: [Development] Virtual GUI framework

2013-11-07 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

there is a QPA platform plugin named minimal, which roughly does that 
(run with -platform minimal). It is currently used by tools like 
qmlplugindump. It dumps out images if the environment variable 
QT_DEBUG_BACKINGSTORE is set.

There also is a plugin named offscreen, which is intended for testing, 
but is not currently being developed.

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Re: [Development] Qt 5.2 Beta, possible memory leak(s)

2013-10-31 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 I dislike those because we're incurring overhead at shutdown to do 
something
 that doesn't need doing, except to keep tools happy.

For the platform printer support, it makes sense since it can 
potentially have handles open or similar. Not sure about the ICU leak, 
though?

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Re: [Development] Qt 5.2 Beta, possible memory leak(s)

2013-10-30 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

here is a fix for printing: https://codereview.qt-project.org/69686

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Re: [Development] [Win32 API] Windows 8.1 deprectaed GetVersion(Ex) - QSysInfo should be fixed!

2013-10-24 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

for your information, we are working on a patch for this: 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,69129  .


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Re: [Development] Vsd: Change in qt/qtdeclarative[stable]: Some minor optimizations

2013-10-18 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,68579 might fix the link error?

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Re: [Development] Qt 5.2 timelines

2013-08-28 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

  We had some good discussions around Qt
  Connectivity, Mac/Win Extras and Location during the contributor summit,
 and should conclude on these modules very soon now.

For the QtWinExtras,  I can say that we have added documentation and 
tests and are now in the final stages of polishing the API. I think it 
is in good shape and ready for 5.2.

Feel free to have a look ( git clone 
ssh://codereview.qt-project.org/qt/qtwinextras ).

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Re: [Development] Advice for Wacom Tablet support

2013-06-14 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

For your information, we are planning to re-add tablet support (larval 
stage at https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,58971 ).


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Re: [Development] CI status as of 22. May 2013

2013-05-22 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

  4) Windows 8’s cmd.exe problem – NOT FIXED
  This has been a problem since last year. Randomly Windows 8 fails 
builds due to this. Won’t go any deeper on that one here.

Just thinking aloud, sharing what I found when I also ran into this 
problem when toying with https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,54814 
in the hopes it rings a bell :

This change contains a perl script that crawls the examples folders, 
builds and executes the examples one after the other using a special 
launcher written in Qt / C++. The launcher launches the example, waits 
for a toplevel window to show up, sends it a WM_CLOSE after a while and 
records crashes, stderr, etc.

The interesting part is that the launcher code calls the WinAPI function 
WaitForInputIdle() to wait for the the application to become responsive. 
If that fails, it kills the application (note: older versions of the 
patch set just left the QProcess running, this did not matter). Whenever 
such failures occur, the next invocation of some command by the perl 
script will report the infamous Can't spawn cmd.exe message.

These failures are caused by:

- The example application is console application with GUI (CONFIG += 
console). WaitForInputIdle() then fails with return code WAIT_FAIL and 
GetLastError() == ERROR_NOT_GUI_PROCESS

- More interesting: I have also seen WaitForInputIdle() fail with error 
997: Overlapped I/O operation is in progress (typically when the tool 
processes the tools/customtype, tools/customtypesending examples). This 
might provide some clue .. maybe at some point some process times out/is 
killed that does overlapped I/O?

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Re: [Development] Qt5 combined source package - Perl dependency

2013-04-26 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 One of the most commented problems has been Perl dependency, 
especially on Windows.

I have to admit I do not really see the point of it as long as QtWebKit 
requires Ruby and Python. In my view, requiring a scripting language it 
is acceptable as long as a single, unified language is used. Most 
projects on Windows require scripting languages for test automation, 
packaging, etc.

For people building from git on Windows, the Perl problem will disappear 
in the moment the msysgit project decides to update the outdated Perl 
version it ships (currently 5.8 or so, which currently has problems with 
syncqt). This would make Perl an ideal candidate.

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Re: [Development] Status of QTimeZone

2013-03-26 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

  tst_qdatetime on Windows with a European time zone throws up 8 
failures for
  me on a clean build without my changes.  Does this happen for anyone 
else?  Is
  this test disabled in CI, because I don't see how anything could be 
passing
  otherwise?

It fails for me, too; the  tests are off by 1 hour, it seems.
This is indeed a mystery. Is the CI in a European timezone?

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Re: [Development] Qt Platform Extras

2013-03-01 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

 I suppose it would not be a detriment. Where do you draw the line? 
Which platforms, what functions and types? Here are some candidate types 
for constructors and conversion operators...

The thing to keep in mind is basically that the decision to remove the 
pixmap conversion functions was mainly motivated by the situation on 
Linux. With Qt 5, it is possible to run executables by the same build of 
Qt with different platform plugins (XCB/X11 or Wayland, for example). 
QtGui no longer links against libX11/libXCB and thus for example 
QPixmap::x11PictureHandle() can no longer be provided within #ifdefs in 
Qt 5.

The situation on Mac and Windows is different, though, in that there is 
basically only one platform plugin (running Windows/Mac with Wayland is 
a slightly theoretical possibility). QtGui already links against the 
libraries that provide the image conversion functions and it is easily 
possible to provide the image conversion functions within #ifdef Q_OS_XX.

The image conversion functions are now in the platform extras, and the 
question is whether to bring them back and in which way. Pros are 
customer convenience; cons are basically #ifdef clutter and hacks.

I personally think operators are too magic (except for the QRect stuff), 
given that the conversions can potentially fail. From the QPA 
perspective, we could introduce something like

void *QPixmap::toNativeFormat(enum Format {} ) const

which would then call #ifdefed code or into the platform backend.

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Re: [Development] Qt 5.1 feature set and freeze date

2013-02-13 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

we also plan to start Qt Windows Extras to bring at least the missing 
image conversion  functions ( QTBUG-27103 ) back provided we can find 
someone to create the repository ;-) .

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Re: [Development] which branch for a bugfix

2013-02-07 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

  https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-28196

For that particular bug, there is already a fix in the works at 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,41537 . Accidentally, I got it 
prototypically to work  today with MSVC. As it is a bit involved, it is 
in the 'dev' branch.

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Re: [Development] Reviews needed before android integration in two weeks

2013-02-05 Thread Friedemann Kleint

Hi,

quickly trying it out,  I found:

-  qplatformdefs.h of Android has a Nokia License of 2009 - surely that 
was not intended?


- Nokia is also mentioned along with names of former employees in the 
json style parser under widgets/styles.  Btw, I am generally wondering 
about it, it seems to add a new Json parser. Could it be replaced by the 
Json classes of QtCore?


-  Compilation of the branch under Windows fails with the attached log. 
Something is probably wrong with #ifdefing/profiles?


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c:\qt\qt-5-vs\qt\qtbase\include\qtcore\../../src/corelib/tools/android/cpu-feat
res.h(31) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'sys/cdefs.h': No such
file or directory
qglengineshadermanager.cpp
Generating Code...
jom: C:\qt\qt-5-vs\qt\qtbase\src\opengl\Makefile.Debug [.obj\debug_shared\qglgr
dientcache.obj] Error 2
c:\qt\qt-5-vs\qt\qtbase\include\qtcore\../../src/corelib/tools/android/cpu-feat
res.h(31) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'sys/cdefs.h': No such
file or directory
Generating Code...
jom: C:\qt\qt-5-vs\qt\qtbase\src\opengl\Makefile [debug] Error 2
jom: C:\qt\qt-5-vs\qt\qtbase\src\Makefile [sub-opengl-make_first] Error 2
jom: C:\qt\qt-5-vs\qt\qtbase\Makefile [sub-src-make_first] Error 2
jom: C:\qt\qt-5-vs\qt\Makefile [module-qtbase-make_first] Error 2
C:\bin\jom.exe failed 512: at C:\qt\qt-5-vs\qt\qtrepotools\bin\qt5_tool line 22
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Re: [Development] CI autotest failures for MinGW

2013-01-10 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

We created task https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-29014 to 
track the MinGW test failures.

We (Digia) will primarily focus on getting MinGW compile tests enabled 
since the tests are already covered by the MSVC ones.

You are welcome to submit fixes, though, please refer to the above 
mentioned task in the commit message and update it similar to 
https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-28611 or create a subtask 
for larger issues.

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Re: [Development] Proposal: New list of Qt 5 reference / Tier 1 platforms

2012-11-07 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

I am wondering if windows-7-64-msvc2010-angle should become a reference 
platform and windows-7-32-msvc2010-angle a tier 1 instead, given that 
Windows is 64bit now and running 32 bit applications is not really native.

I understand there are practical problems to getting that tested in the 
CI as there are no distributing compilers for 64bit?

It would be nice to have it tested though, since compiling on 64bit 
reveals additional warnings about casting between different 
ints/pointers, etc, that might one day be caught by a compiler warnings 
check (which I am still hoping for).

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Re: [Development] Qt5-Beta build from Git on Windows -- Failed to load platform plugin windows

2012-11-06 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

on Windows XP, the load error is most likely caused by 
https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-27741  ,  for which the 
fix https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,38566 is pending.

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Re: [Development] Qt 4.8 autotests need attention; over 100 insignificant tests!

2012-06-13 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

to emphasize, the situation is quite serious and there were already 
regressions like https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-25906 
(QFile::append no longer working).

In most cases, the problem is that most tests using test data files were 
written assuming those files can always be accessed from the working 
directory ./test.data.
This was true for the old autotest system used in Qt 4.

The new test infrastructure of the Qt Project executes 'make check' from 
the test root directory, causing the working directory to be set to the 
location of the binary. Since they are located in the 'debug' or 
'release' subfolders on Windows or in the application.app/MacOs... 
folder on Mac, respectively, they can no longer find the test data files 
from there.

In  Qt 5, this was solved by introducing the QFINDTESTDATA macro, but 
porting it to Qt 4 is a non-trivial task.

https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,28579 (Fix QLibrary test) and 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,27579 (QApplication) 
illustrate what needs to be done for such cases:

- Removing CONFIG -= app_bundle causes the Mac binary to be created in 
the test root folder

- On Windows, cd up one level if the current working directory is 
'debug' or 'release' in the test constructor

- Remove the insignification from the test profile

Additionally, it would be nice if the test printed a nice error report 
about the missing files.

In case the test cannot be completely fixed, it already helps to 
restrict the insignification to the offending platform or move it to the 
code (QSKIP, QEXPECT_FAIL).

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[Development] Nominating Miikka Heikkinen for Approver status

2012-05-25 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

I would like to nomimate Miikka Heikkinen from Digia for Approver status.

He has been working on Qt 5 on Windows for a quite a while and has fixed 
numerous issues and failing test cases in the areas QWidget/QWindow, 
fonts, Vista style and QML and is currently working on the daunting task 
to breathe life into the Active X module.

I think this would benefit the project given that the Windows platform 
is slightly underrepresented among the developers.

His dashboard can be found at 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#q,miikka.heikkinen%2540digia.com,n,z .

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Re: [Development] Quick2 and Directx11 backend (Angle)

2012-05-22 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

With Corentin's permission, I have pushed a rebased and slightly 
polished version of the patch up to 
https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,26797 for everyone to play 
around. The build instructions are inside the class documentation of 
QWindowsEGLContext.

Angle can also be built with qmake, as Morten pointed out: 
https://gitorious.org/qtangle/qmakeangle .

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Re: [Development] Status of ActiveQt module?

2012-02-01 Thread Friedemann Kleint
Hi,

the status of the module is that we are trying to keep it compiling, 
such that it does not totally fall apart.
Apart from the meta object issues, it needs another major refactoring 
due to the Lighthouse architecture (it previously used widgets with 
native handles).
We (at Nokia) do not have the resources to bring it to a working state, 
however it is conceivable that for example Digia or others step up.
I would suggest that, if you do changes, add some  #fixme comments to 
its code pointing the potential developer/maintainer in the right direction.

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