Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-26 Thread Thomas A Webb
Most urban areas are pretty broadly served in this country. It's easy to forget that millions of us live in in areas that aren't "urban". Tom Abeles wrote: We traveled in the rural US this summer and we did not take a laptop along. We had very little problem finding free broadband Internet acces

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-25 Thread Tom Abeles
We traveled in the rural US this summer and we did not take a laptop along. We had very little problem finding free broadband Internet access at most local libraries and many coffee houses that were scattered before us on our journey. WalMart now sells a very low cost computer and also sells di

RE: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-25 Thread Lenihan, Ellen
ork discussion group Subject: Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? I agree. Although aren't the cable sports and news channels, the "touch-down by touch-down" mobile updates and knowing where tonights party is just another kind of feed? Just as RSS (and blogs and the intern

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-24 Thread John Hibbs
At 3:25 AM -0500 1/23/05, Stephen Snow wrote: . That is how this current information tool development feels to me: lots of glitter and not much substance. Lots of information, but not much actual communication. What Stephen Snow writes about, quite eloquently, and as others have touched upon, is t

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-24 Thread Oliver Moran
uot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? This thread puzzles me from a number of perspectives. First, RSS while a powerful aggregating search tool is still mapping brick space into click space, the same as w

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-24 Thread Tom Abeles
This thread puzzles me from a number of perspectives. First, RSS while a powerful aggregating search tool is still mapping brick space into click space, the same as what we are currently doing with e-learning using the standard Learning Management Systems and their variances. It has, as has bee

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-24 Thread JDFLICK
Since using computers is "normal" activity for today's youth, they are accustomed to using computers. Therefore, when I engage my classes in computer-aided discussion, younger students accomplish it much more quickly. Oh, that's not to say older students can't do it or don't like it; I've

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-24 Thread Ian Ward
I am enjoying this thread...quick thoughts, also take into account how the internet and services provide for the interpersonal sharing and viral sharing of content on the internet. For example, someone who is totally tuned into sports will still have a chat client or two running, and this leaves a

RE: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? content management

2005-01-24 Thread Champ-Blackwell, Siobhan
/ (Web Log) http://www.digitaldivide.net/profile/siobhanchamp-blackwell (Digital Divide Network Profile) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taran Rampersad Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 8:41 PM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion gr

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? content management

2005-01-24 Thread Pamela McLean
Taran Rampersad wrote: (snip) What a Content Management System allows you to do is file the same content under different names without having to store it more than once, which is exactly what I need on my machine! LOL. I think quite a few people could use such a system.Now you have me wondering

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? content management

2005-01-24 Thread DSSA310
In a message dated 1/23/05 7:42:17 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Pamela McLean wrote: > > >Another very basic question from Pam > >Stephen Snow wrote: > > > >><>(snip) (but I have found a use for the web and for a content > >>management system). Pam: Your questions appe

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-23 Thread Andy Carvin
I don't see many of them jumping to learn RSS. Why would anybody "learn RSS" .. I don't know TCP/IP but it doesn't prevent me from using the products of it. So long as SOMEBODY knows it and can keep the technology alive, why would EVERYBODY need to know it? I think you're misunderstanding John

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? content management

2005-01-23 Thread Taran Rampersad
Pamela McLean wrote: > Another very basic question from Pam > Stephen Snow wrote: > >> <>(snip) (but I have found a use for the web and for a content >> management system). > > > Content management system? > Does that do what it sounds as if it might do? > Is it a *system* that would help me to *m

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? content management

2005-01-23 Thread Dave Pentecost
Pam A content management system usually refers to a package of software that helps you manage a website, not your own computer files. Most blogging software (Blogger, Movable Type, TypePad) can be called CMS, as can the CivicSpace package, which I am currently learning for a couple of online commu

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? content management

2005-01-23 Thread Pamela McLean
Another very basic question from Pam Stephen Snow wrote: <>(snip) (but I have found a use for the web and for a content management system). Content management system? Does that do what it sounds as if it might do? Is it a *system* that would help me to *manage* the *content* (currently stored

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? (firehose)

2005-01-23 Thread Pamela McLean
This email covers two things. First, many thanks to everyone who has sent explanations of RSS. I haven't digested all the information yet - but from a quick read through all that has been sent I'm feeling much less ignorant, and very glad that I did ask the question. Second , a response to wh

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-23 Thread Ubex Unknownis
I think we're missing two critical elements... See below From: John Hibbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ snip ] I share Steve Eskow's worries about a society not underpinned with people who have good reading and writing skills; one that is already chilly to the merits of civic responsibility a. reading an

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-23 Thread Taran Rampersad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Historically, the older readers are the more likely they are to read a >newspaper. Certainly, this won't extend extensively to online journals, but >online news readers undoubtedly will be older. And it's quite true that >college-age students read little news, onl

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-23 Thread JDFLICK
Historically, the older readers are the more likely they are to read a newspaper. Certainly, this won't extend extensively to online journals, but online news readers undoubtedly will be older. And it's quite true that college-age students read little news, online or off. Jim Flick __

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-23 Thread Stephen Snow
= - Original Message - From: "Kenan Jarboe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Digital Divide Network discussion group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? > Let me take this di

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread Stephen Snow
EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge? > At 6:54 PM -0800 1/21/05, Steve Eskow wrote: > >John Hibbs's message below seems to challenge the conventional wisdom which > &

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread Steve Eskow
Eskow [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Stephen Snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Eskow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "The Digital Divide Network discussion group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 2:09 AM Subjec

[SPAM] Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread BBracey
In a message dated 1/22/05 11:52:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > They are cold - no, not cold - FRIGID! - to blogging, underscored by > antagonism - yes that is the correct word - to writing assignments > for old school professors who believe some aspect of their grade is > determined by g

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread John Hibbs
At 5:09 AM -0500 1/22/05, Stephen Snow wrote: It is a double-edged sword. Where, on the one edge, a free society is based on the ability to have unfettered access to information of our choosing, on the other edge, a free society's longevity is linked to common experiences, common goals and common u

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread Kenan Jarboe
Let me take this discussion in a slightly different direction. The conversation on "narrowcasting" and student apathy to information & other opinions has been very interesting (and I may try to fit it into my own blog on the Intangible Economy - www.intangibleeconomy.org) But, to what extent i

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread John Hibbs
At 11:40 AM -0800 1/21/05, Steve Eskow wrote: His first chapter is called "The Daily Me," and deals with ever increasing ability of the new communication technologies to allow their users to personalize what they receive, tailor what comes to them so that they only hear and see what they want to h

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread John Hibbs
Why do I think it's a pipe dream that the general public will do "a little more work" to "stay informed"? Isn't this in the opposite direction of where the world has been going? Why did the Vatican change from delivery of the mass from Latin into the vernacular? Why did colleges, long ago, aba

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread Thomas A Webb
I think we get so focused on [and enamored with] the technology tricks that we lose sight of the fact the people on the wrong side of the divide don't have the toys we have. Basic email and web-access bring the bulk of the social and economic benefits of being "connected". All this other stuff

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread Taran Rampersad
John Hibbs wrote: > At 5:09 AM -0500 1/22/05, Stephen Snow wrote: > >> It is a double-edged sword. Where, on the one edge, a free society is >> based >> on the ability to have unfettered access to information of our >> choosing, on >> the other edge, a free society's longevity is linked to common

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread John Hibbs
At 6:54 PM -0800 1/21/05, Steve Eskow wrote: John Hibbs's message below seems to challenge the conventional wisdom which holds that the young are ready for the "digital revolution" while their elders resist it. It's not that the college students I know well resist "technology". Universally, they h

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread Stephen Snow
onespecialchristmas.org) GROW BY GIVING: VOLUNTEER === - Original Message - From: "Steve Eskow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Digital Divide Network discussion group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:40 PM Sub

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-22 Thread Steve Eskow
-- From: "John Hibbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Eskow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "The Digital Divide Network discussion group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT

Re: [DDN] RSS: The Next ICT Literacy Challenge?

2005-01-21 Thread Steve Eskow
Andy Carvin cites Dan Gillmor's concern for the difficulties of creating an informed public: > Dan Gillmor at the Berkman blogger confab today just made the comment > that the public will have to learn to do "a little more work" if they > want to stay informed. "It's not just going to show up on t