On Sunday, 11 March 2018 at 02:21:30 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 21:07:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
It would be nice if you could actually just copy-n-paste a C
header into an extern(C) block in D and have it Just Work(tm),
but practically all C headers are dependent
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 21:07:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
It would be nice if you could actually just copy-n-paste a C
header into an extern(C) block in D and have it Just Work(tm),
but practically all C headers are dependent on macros one way
or another that it would require including
On Wed, Mar 07, 2018 at 03:52:19PM +, Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 20:01:34 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > As Andrei wrote in TDPL, (and I paraphrase,) it sucks when built-in
> > types have magical abilities inaccessible to user code. This is a
> >
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 20:01:34 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
As Andrei wrote in TDPL, (and I paraphrase,) it sucks when
built-in types have magical abilities inaccessible to user
code. This is a common defect in many programming languages...
the "magical" behaviour is wonderful when it
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:33:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 17:33:52 12345swordy via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu
wrote:
> https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 17:33:52 UTC, 12345swordy wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
Andrei
I have submitted, already. My major complaints boils down to
the
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 09:46:49PM +, TheFlyingFiddle via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 20:01:34 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>
> Just to give some background. At work I spend most of my time
> maintaining legacy systems adding some small features or replacing
>
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 20:01:34 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Just to give some background. At work I spend most of my time
maintaining legacy systems adding some small features or
replacing subcomponents. So most of what I do is reading code and
making some minor changes (unless it's
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 06:45:29PM +, TheFlyingFiddle via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[...]
> My least preferredlanguage of all times would be Perl. With (PHP 5.3)
> coming in at a close second :)
>
> Perl is just... I get it, you can write somewhat nicer bash scripts in
> the language.
I was
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 10:15:13 UTC, Zoadian wrote:
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 00:53:16 UTC, psychoticRabbit
wrote:
It should have gone to the Java developers - cause they
deserved it.
C++ is the worst thing to have ever come out of computer
science!
yes c++ is not the
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 19:03:54 UTC, Mark wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 17:33:52 UTC, 12345swordy wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
Andrei
I have
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 12:06:38 UTC, Stefan Koch wrote:
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 11:32:32 UTC, Atila Neves
wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:46:20 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:33:18 UTC, Jonathan M
Davis wrote:
The other problem is that
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 11:32:32 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:46:20 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:33:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
The other problem is that many of C++'s problems come from
being a superset of C, which is
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:33:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
The other problem is that many of C++'s problems come from
being a superset of C, which is also a huge strength, and it
would be a pretty huge blow to C++ if it couldn't just #include
C code and use it as if it were C++. To
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:46:20 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:33:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
The other problem is that many of C++'s problems come from
being a superset of C, which is also a huge strength, and it
would be a pretty huge blow to C++ if
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 21:07:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 01:33:18PM -0700, Jonathan M Davis via
Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
[...]
Not strictly true. My old C++98 project no longer compiled
with the latest g++, because it contained things allowed in
C++98 that
On Wednesday, 28 February 2018 at 00:53:16 UTC, psychoticRabbit
wrote:
It should have gone to the Java developers - cause they
deserved it.
C++ is the worst thing to have ever come out of computer
science!
yes c++ is not the greatest language (thats why i use D). but
java is the worst
On 2/27/2018 9:41 AM, H. S. Teoh wrote:
And just about every new dmd release, people fume on this forum about
regressions and gratuitous code breakages.
On Tuesday, sure.
Then on Wednesday the same people propose breaking changes :-)
Everybody wants it both ways, including me.
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
Andrei
"If you could wave a magic wand and change one thing about any
part of C++, what would it be, and how would that change help
your
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
Andrei
really, online surveys are dodgy at best.
btw. Bjarne Stroustrup recently received the 2018 Charles Stark
Draper Prize for
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 15:28:21 H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 09:44:45PM +, bachmeier via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 21:07:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > > Granted, though, this is a lot easier than having to write JNI
> > >
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 09:44:45PM +, bachmeier via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 21:07:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
>
> > Granted, though, this is a lot easier than having to write JNI
> > wrappers or (carefully!) translate C headers into D. It would be
> > nice if you
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:33:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 17:33:52 12345swordy via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu
wrote:
> https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 21:07:03 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
Granted, though, this is a lot easier than having to write JNI
wrappers or (carefully!) translate C headers into D. It would
be nice if you could actually just copy-n-paste a C header into
an extern(C) block in D and have it
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 01:33:18PM -0700, Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
[...]
> The main problem with that is that the fact that as soon as you're
> willing to break backwards compatability in C++, then you lose one of
> the major benefits of C++ (that the same code compiles pretty
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:25:32 UTC, JN wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
Andrei
D community survey is coming soon? :)
Yes. Stay tuned.
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 20:33:18 UTC, Jonathan M Davis
wrote:
The other problem is that many of C++'s problems come from
being a superset of C, which is also a huge strength, and it
would be a pretty huge blow to C++ if it couldn't just #include
C code and use it as if it were C++.
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 17:33:52 12345swordy via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
>
> wrote:
> > https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite
> > -2018-02
> >
> > Andrei
>
> I have submitted, already. My
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
Andrei
D community survey is coming soon? :)
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 17:46:58 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 17:41:07 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
And just about every new dmd release, people fume on this
forum about regressions and gratuitous code breakages.
Not all deprecations/code breakages are
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 18:42:20 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
[snip]
Well, OK, there *have* been backward-incompatible changes in
the C++ standard (I experienced some myself just these past 2
weeks while updating an old C++98 project of mine... which was
also motivation for ditching C++
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 17:33:52 UTC, 12345swordy wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
Andrei
I have submitted, already. My major complaints boils down to
the
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 19:01:57 UTC, jmh530 wrote:
The economic way of thinking is to consider whether the
marginal benefit of a breaking change on all future code and
whether that would exceed the marginal cost of a breaking
change requiring old projects to be re-written. As most
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 05:46:58PM +, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 17:41:07 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > And just about every new dmd release, people fume on this forum
> > about regressions and gratuitous code breakages.
>
> Not all deprecations/code
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 17:41:07 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 05:33:52PM +, 12345swordy via
Digitalmars-d wrote:
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
>
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 17:41:07 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
And just about every new dmd release, people fume on this forum
about regressions and gratuitous code breakages.
Not all deprecations/code breakages are *regressions* and
*gratuitous*.
You just need to do a cost/benefit look at
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 05:33:52PM +, 12345swordy via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
> >
> > Andrei
>
> I have submitted, already. My major
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
Andrei
I have submitted, already. My major complaints boils down to the
fact that they refuse to deprecated features due to religious
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 at 15:52:15 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
Andrei
... and D is listed as an alternative.
https://isocpp.org/blog/2018/02/new-cpp-foundation-developer-survey-lite-2018-02
Andrei
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