Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-28 Thread Wyatt via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 27 December 2015 at 14:44:37 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: I think wannabe game programmers is a sizeable market. Programmers that dont have the capacity to learn modern C++ and would pay for a quality tutorial of how to build a commercial level game using OpenGL, OpenAL and a

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-27 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 at 12:54:39 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: I really want to put these paid blogging ideas into use one day, but maybe D isn't the place to do it. Or - maybe D is exactly the right use case. D doesn't already have a ton of available material, but still as a decent size

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-27 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 27 December 2015 at 14:44:37 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Sunday, 27 December 2015 at 08:25:58 UTC, Joakim wrote: recently). Rather, the goal would be a site for hobbyists to learn how to use the language to its fullest, without having to dive into the source and github PRs

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-27 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 27 December 2015 at 08:25:58 UTC, Joakim wrote: recently). Rather, the goal would be a site for hobbyists to learn how to use the language to its fullest, without having to dive into the source and github PRs to extract all that info themselves. Obviously, learning D might

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-27 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 28/12/15 3:44 AM, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Sunday, 27 December 2015 at 08:25:58 UTC, Joakim wrote: recently). Rather, the goal would be a site for hobbyists to learn how to use the language to its fullest, without having to dive into the source and github PRs to extract all that info

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-25 Thread Jakob Jenkov via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 24 December 2015 at 17:19:30 UTC, karabuta wrote: On Sunday, 20 December 2015 at 21:09:31 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: Writing a focused book of around 100 pages can be done in 3-6 months. If more people chip in, it might even be faster. There are these books floating around where

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-24 Thread karabuta via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 20 December 2015 at 21:09:31 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: Writing a focused book of around 100 pages can be done in 3-6 months. If more people chip in, it might even be faster. There are these books floating around where various programmers actually come together to write them. Each

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-23 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 at 03:05:46 UTC, Joakim wrote: I've been thinking about contacting various D devs to see how much interest there is- I mentioned that I contacted one guy already- but I wasn't sure if I myself wanted to put time into this. I really want to put these paid

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-23 Thread Jakob Jenkov via Digitalmars-d
I really want to put these paid blogging ideas into use one day, but maybe D isn't the place to do it. Or - maybe D is exactly the right use case. D doesn't already have a ton of available material, but still as a decent size community. I'd say the hardest part is to get information about

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 12:55:19 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: All decent ideas- I've been thinking recently about setting up a paid blog for articles by D devs- but without someone to explore and push them, they will go nowhere, ie somebody has to do the work of wrangling the writers and

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Jakob Jenkov via Digitalmars-d
Simple, a blog that you pay to read. :) It's amazing to me that people still continue to pump out books, such an outdated form, simply because it has an existing payment model in place, rather than trying new paid models online. Simply churning out ebooks or the equivalent is all they do,

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 17:29:56 UTC, Bubbasaur wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 17:01:17 UTC, Joakim wrote: The problem is ads make no money for the vast majority of writers, so they have to write a book and sell it to make writing worth their time. This is why you have to pay

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 23/12/15 5:10 AM, Joakim wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 15:33:50 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: Simple, a blog that you pay to read. :) It's amazing to me that people still continue to pump out books, such an outdated form, simply because it has an existing payment model in place, rather

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 at 01:33:22 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: On 23/12/15 5:10 AM, Joakim wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 15:33:50 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: Have you considered using LeanPub for this? Never heard much about them. Looking at their site now, I like that they

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 23/12/15 3:26 PM, Joakim wrote: On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 at 01:33:22 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: On 23/12/15 5:10 AM, Joakim wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 15:33:50 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: Have you considered using LeanPub for this? Never heard much about them. Looking

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 at 02:36:38 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: On 23/12/15 3:26 PM, Joakim wrote: Are you offering to write for a D blog or to get it set up on leanpub? I'd never use an external platform like leanpub where I don't control the source, as one of the main points would be

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Jakob Jenkov via Digitalmars-d
It is all beyond idiotic: it is amazing how long antiquated ideas stick around, only because people cannot imagine anything else. I agree 100%. I published 4 books for Amazon Kindle, then stopped for exactly this reason. You can do so much more advanced stuff on the web than in an ebook. I

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Jakob Jenkov via Digitalmars-d
All decent ideas- I've been thinking recently about setting up a paid blog for articles by D devs- but without someone to explore and push them, they will go nowhere, ie somebody has to do the work of wrangling the writers and docs. What do you mean by a "paid blog" ?

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 15:33:50 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: Simple, a blog that you pay to read. :) It's amazing to me that people still continue to pump out books, such an outdated form, simply because it has an existing payment model in place, rather than trying new paid models online.

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 16:10:23 UTC, Joakim wrote: It is all beyond idiotic: it is amazing how long antiquated ideas stick around, only because people cannot imagine anything else. What you're describing sounds basically like a magazine... paid freelance authors contributing

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 16:16:53 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 16:10:23 UTC, Joakim wrote: It is all beyond idiotic: it is amazing how long antiquated ideas stick around, only because people cannot imagine anything else. What you're describing sounds

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Bubbasaur via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 15:24:23 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 12:55:19 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: All decent ideas- I've been thinking recently about setting up a paid blog for articles by D devs- but without someone to explore and push them, they will go nowhere,

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Bubbasaur via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 17:01:17 UTC, Joakim wrote: The problem is ads make no money for the vast majority of writers, so they have to write a book and sell it to make writing worth their time. This is why you have to pay for almost all the D books, with free online books like Ali's

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 16:51:38 UTC, Bubbasaur wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 15:24:23 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Tuesday, 22 December 2015 at 12:55:19 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: All decent ideas- I've been thinking recently about setting up a paid blog for articles by D devs- but

Re: D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-21 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 20 December 2015 at 21:09:31 UTC, Jakob Jenkov wrote: I was thinking that the D Consortium could function as publisher of D books too, for the following (obvious) reasons: [...] All decent ideas- I've been thinking recently about setting up a paid blog for articles by D devs- but

D Consortium as Book / App Publisher... ?

2015-12-20 Thread Jakob Jenkov via Digitalmars-d
I was thinking that the D Consortium could function as publisher of D books too, for the following (obvious) reasons: 1) To raise money for the D Consortium (from sales) 2) To increase the available documentation about D 3) Increased amount of documentation might lead to increased adoption.