Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 18:00:38 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: We're kinda going off topic here, but.. Getting dependency free cook-book stuff on the web, that you just cut'n'paste into your editor could have a huge influence on D becoming more used. Encouraging people to write small

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 1/15/15 1:42 AM, weaselcat wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 07:58:47 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/14/15 7:19 PM, brian wrote: My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do things in D. This will discourage the new user, which will prevent it becoming a more popular

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 1/15/15 12:49 AM, Szymon Gatner wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 07:58:47 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/14/15 7:19 PM, brian wrote: My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do things in D. This will discourage the new user, which will prevent it becoming a more

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
We're kinda going off topic here, but.. (BTW, I just hit escape AGAIN after typing that. my vim habits are going overgrown!) On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 16:31:56 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Right, and it is more fun if you get response on reddit etc, so something short and useful

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 17:32:11 UTC, CraigDillabaugh wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 16:53:14 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/15/15 1:42 AM, weaselcat wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 07:58:47 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/14/15 7:19 PM, brian wrote: My point

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 06:00:36PM +, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote: We're kinda going off topic here, but.. (BTW, I just hit escape AGAIN after typing that. my vim habits are going overgrown!) [...] Only just??! For years now I've had this uncontrollable twitch in my left hand,

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread CraigDillabaugh via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 16:53:14 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/15/15 1:42 AM, weaselcat wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 07:58:47 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/14/15 7:19 PM, brian wrote: My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do things in D. This

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 15:38:05 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: I could totally fill in the project spotlight with stuff from that repo for at least a year, not even kidding. But I don't want it to be all about me! Right, and it is more fun if you get response on reddit etc, so something

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 14:53:23 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 at 10:45:17 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: «twitcurl is a pure C++ library for twitter APIs. twitcurl uses cURL for handling HTTP requests and responses.» I feel like I say this all the time

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread FrankLike via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 15:38:05 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: mssql.d - drivers for database.d (wrapping C libraries) minigui.d - small, dependency-free (except for simpledisplay.d and color.d but doesn't even need Phobos) widget set, using Win32 native widgets where possible, custom

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 14:57:48 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Sounds like perfect topic for your newsletter? :) I could totally fill in the project spotlight with stuff from that repo for at least a year, not even kidding. But I don't want it to be all about me! (and oauth.d isn't

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 at 10:45:17 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: «twitcurl is a pure C++ library for twitter APIs. twitcurl uses cURL for handling HTTP requests and responses.» I feel like I say this all the time but there's a twitter bit hidden in my misc. D modules, in oauth.d

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 1/15/15 12:41 PM, Mengu wrote: bearophile did an awesome job. hats off. Yes, fantastic. i've noticed there are some code that are not working such as the anonymous recursion example. [0] the first example there doesn't work but the second one works with DMD64 D Compiler v2.066. let's

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread bearophile via Digitalmars-d
Andrei Alexandrescu: I wonder how to feature Rosetta Code more prominently on dlang.org. I don't know. One option is to create a kind of FAQ page in the D wiki, that associates problems and questions with links to specific entries in the Rosettacode site. Bye, bearophile

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread bearophile via Digitalmars-d
Mengu: i've noticed there are some code that are not working such as the anonymous recursion example. [0] the first example there doesn't work I have fixed the bug. If you find other problems please list them in a single thread in D.learn (but keep in mind that Rosettacode D code is meant

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Vlad Levenfeld via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 16 January 2015 at 01:16:26 UTC, weaselcat wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 20:54:05 UTC, bearophile wrote: Mengu: i've noticed there are some code that are not working such as the anonymous recursion example. [0] the first example there doesn't work but the second one works

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 1/15/15 4:26 PM, bearophile wrote: Andrei Alexandrescu: I wonder how to feature Rosetta Code more prominently on dlang.org. I don't know. One option is to create a kind of FAQ page in the D wiki, that associates problems and questions with links to specific entries in the Rosettacode

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 20:54:05 UTC, bearophile wrote: Mengu: i've noticed there are some code that are not working such as the anonymous recursion example. [0] the first example there doesn't work but the second one works with DMD64 D Compiler v2.066. The code used to work... I

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 1/14/15 7:19 PM, brian wrote: My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do things in D. This will discourage the new user, which will prevent it becoming a more popular language. Yes, it would be great if we could crowdsource a cornucopia of how to topics in D. -- Andrei

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread ponce via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 03:19:10 UTC, brian wrote: My point wasn't that there aren't ways to do things in D. My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do things in D. This will discourage the new user, which will prevent it becoming a more popular language. So if I'm

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread ponce via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 10:19:36 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 08:54:34 UTC, ponce wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 03:19:10 UTC, brian wrote: My point wasn't that there aren't ways to do things in D. My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 10:05:23 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Look at the curves for referring domains: https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/overview/subdomains/?target=www.dlang.org Actually, that was wrong since dlang does not use the www standard, that is much better:

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 08:54:34 UTC, ponce wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 03:19:10 UTC, brian wrote: My point wasn't that there aren't ways to do things in D. My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do things in D. This will discourage the new user, which will

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread via Digitalmars-d
Look at the curves for referring domains: https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/overview/subdomains/?target=www.dlang.org https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/overview/subdomains/?target=www.golang.org https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/overview/subdomains/?target=www.rust-lang.org Rust has an

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 07:58:47 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/14/15 7:19 PM, brian wrote: My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do things in D. This will discourage the new user, which will prevent it becoming a more popular language. Yes, it would be great

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread weaselcat via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 13 January 2015 at 23:34:40 UTC, brian wrote: A question first: ... what do people actually have working in D? I find very few working examples of things I want to do. Or things in general. That I can read and say oooh that's close to what I want, I can tweak it a little here and

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Szymon Gatner via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 07:58:47 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/14/15 7:19 PM, brian wrote: My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do things in D. This will discourage the new user, which will prevent it becoming a more popular language. Yes, it would be great

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread Mengu via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 16:53:14 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/15/15 1:42 AM, weaselcat wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 07:58:47 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 1/14/15 7:19 PM, brian wrote: My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do things in D. This

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread bearophile via Digitalmars-d
Mengu: i've noticed there are some code that are not working such as the anonymous recursion example. [0] the first example there doesn't work but the second one works with DMD64 D Compiler v2.066. The code used to work... I fix all the time the code that used to work... let's get

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-15 Thread ponce via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 10:19:36 UTC, Joakim wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 08:54:34 UTC, ponce wrote: On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 03:19:10 UTC, brian wrote: My point wasn't that there aren't ways to do things in D. My point was that there are fewer examples of *how* to do

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-14 Thread brian via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 at 05:10:05 UTC, Joakim wrote: Take a look at the official package registry, called dub: I love dub, who doesn't. It is evidence of a very active and large community. I don't think it's that unusual for a native compiled language: can you find C++ snippets to

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-14 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 15 January 2015 at 03:19:10 UTC, brian wrote: On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 at 05:10:05 UTC, Joakim wrote: I don't think it's that unusual for a native compiled language: can you find C++ snippets to write tweets? I doubt it. A compiled languages is just not the tool people

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-14 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 13 January 2015 at 23:40:32 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote: On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 16:45:40 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Yes, but it would be easy to define some focused goals for each release and refuse to touch stuff that belongs to a later release. E.g.

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-14 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 14 January 2015 at 05:10:05 UTC, Joakim wrote: I don't think it's that unusual for a native compiled language: can you find C++ snippets to write tweets? I doubt it. A compiled languages is just not the tool people usually grab to write such things. D would like to break out

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-13 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 13 January 2015 at 23:34:40 UTC, brian wrote: I know this thread is a little old now, and I'm not the most experienced programmer by a long shot, but I'll post my 2 cents from the n00b persepctive. A question first: ... what do people actually have working in D? I find very few

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-13 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 14/01/2015 12:34 p.m., brian wrote: I know this thread is a little old now, and I'm not the most experienced programmer by a long shot, but I'll post my 2 cents from the n00b persepctive. A question first: ... what do people actually have working in D? I find very few working examples of

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-13 Thread brian via Digitalmars-d
I know this thread is a little old now, and I'm not the most experienced programmer by a long shot, but I'll post my 2 cents from the n00b persepctive. A question first: ... what do people actually have working in D? I find very few working examples of things I want to do. Or things in

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2015-01-13 Thread Martin Nowak via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 16:45:40 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Yes, but it would be easy to define some focused goals for each release and refuse to touch stuff that belongs to a later release. E.g. http://wiki.dlang.org/Agenda

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-24 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 23:32:59 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 22:16:32 + via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 21:48:32 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: computers is the future of computing. and now i

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-24 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 16:53:16 + Joakim via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Good point, I too think this is going to be big soon, though the point of the spear for me is bitcoin and all its copycats. Torrents did it first but haven't really taken the next step. The

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-24 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 at 05:26:21 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: for me the biggest trouble is that your things looks handy and unencumbered, and it's hard to resist the temptation to write my own versions. That's part of why I do it the way I do: you are hopefully able to

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-24 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:50:17 + Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: Yes, DIY is finally :P Unless the lib actually happens to solve what I want exactly and has no other hassle... which basically never happens... I end up doing it myself whether it sucks or

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 22 December 2014 at 21:46:48 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: i can assure you that concurency in the language is not the only thing one needs to know before start writing a server. you keep telling that everything else in Go is so cheap to learn, so only CSP matters. oh,

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 07:57:22 UTC, Bienlein wrote: What I'm saying is that being good at everything is good, but only a true selling point would receive people's attention. That's the way it is. Making D fit for server side development is a suggestion of mine. It seems to me

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 07:57:22 UTC, Bienlein wrote: What I'm saying is that being good at everything is good, but only a true selling point would receive people's attention. That's the way it is. Making D fit for server side development is a suggestion of mine. Yes, responsive

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Dmitry Olshansky via Digitalmars-d
19-Dec-2014 18:08, deadalnix пишет: On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 14:38:02 UTC, Tobias Pankrath wrote: As for Walter already saying no a lot, given how many features D has, obviously one can still wish he went from 99% no to 99.5%. ;) You don't need to be around the D community forever to feel

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 23:46 +0200, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] matters. oh, really? Go can magically do all header parsing, database management and other things for me? or we talking about echo servers? What happened was that a lot of people interested in all this HTTP bullshit,

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d
On 12/18/14 4:38 AM, bioinfornatics wrote: - range even the basic io as ByLine which implement range can't work with std.range.takeOne as is not an Input Range. While a basic function such as takeOne do not really need to use save method to work a forward range is enough. Could you please give

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 17:01:13 UTC, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: If there was a way of mocking (so that you can run integration tests without the actual network) With my cgi.d, I made a command line interface that triggers the library the same as a network does. This

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Ary Borenszweig via Digitalmars-d
On 12/23/14, 2:08 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 17:01:13 UTC, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: If there was a way of mocking (so that you can run integration tests without the actual network) With my cgi.d, I made a command line interface that triggers the

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 17:37:57 UTC, Ary Borenszweig wrote: How do you specify what the mock should respond? I'd just grep it or something like that. The main thing with this bit though is just not needing additional network programs to get a response - I typically use this

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:01:02 + Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 23:46 +0200, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] matters. oh, really? Go can magically do all header parsing, database management and other things for me? or we

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 19:14:02 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: and so D. and i still has to learn libraries for all that. yet people talking Go being magic bullet: just use concurency and that's all! nope. that's not all. that's not even the biggest part. Library support is

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 19:54:19 + via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 19:14:02 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: and so D. and i still has to learn libraries for all that. yet people talking Go being magic bullet: just use concurency

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 20:12:20 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: and learning libraries is not free (if such libraies exists in the first place). yet people talking about Go tend to ignore this fact. Yes, that is true. I tend to avoid frameworks and look for focused libraries.

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 20:23:07 + via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: with all the C support libraries available D is not in a bad position. That's great in theory, but basic C-libraries are not as cheap to get working as an existing binding with a convenient abstraction

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 20:36:35 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: all that cloudy thing is another hype. ;-) It is hyped, but it is going to grow since businesses can save money on it. HP's The Machine also appears to be cloud centric. It is pretty much well established across

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 21:05:04 + via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 20:36:35 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: all that cloudy thing is another hype. ;-) It is hyped, but it is going to grow since businesses can save money on it. HP's

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 21:48:32 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: computers is the future of computing. and now i see the revenge of mainframes. i bet we'll see another wave of this, this time with decentralized networks (nope, clouds are not about that). With new tech changes

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 17:00:55 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: On 12/18/14 4:38 AM, bioinfornatics wrote: - range even the basic io as ByLine which implement range can't work with std.range.takeOne as is not an Input Range. While a basic function such as takeOne do not really need to

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 19:54:20 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: 5 stars for arsd I'm almost famous! I actually seriously wonder how many users my random stuff has. Maybe I should set up an email list - when I make a breaking change, I often wonder how many people I'm

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 22:16:32 + via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 21:48:32 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: computers is the future of computing. and now i see the revenge of mainframes. i bet we'll see another wave of this, this

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 23:12:45 + Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 19:54:20 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: 5 stars for arsd I'm almost famous! I actually seriously wonder how many users my random stuff has. Maybe I

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d
On 24/12/2014 8:54 a.m., Ola Fosheim =?UTF-8?B?R3LDuHN0YWQi?= ola.fosheim.grostad+dl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 19:14:02 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: and so D. and i still has to learn libraries for all that. yet people talking Go being magic bullet: just use

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 at 01:20:13 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: Lets not forget things like barcode generators, qrcode and pdf editor. One of my larger D web projects included QR code generation - it was a printable coupon site. I did it by just calling system(qrencode)... or

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 23:39:31 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d wrote: i'm using it from time to time. mostly html parser, but i'm watching for your scripting language changes too. I love dom.d. IMO it is better at doing what javascript's job in the browser is supposed to be than

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 04:55:09 + Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: I love dom.d. IMO it is better at doing what javascript's job in the browser is supposed to be than Javascript itself with the dynamic properties and all that. the same for me. i'm not doing

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 at 01:20:13 UTC, Rikki Cattermole wrote: Lets not forget things like barcode generators, qrcode and pdf editor. On-the-fly PDF generation is very useful for creating product sheets or printable versions of articles etc. There are few good solutions for that.

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-23 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 23:12:46 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 19:54:20 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: 5 stars for arsd I'm almost famous! I actually seriously wonder how many users my random stuff has. Maybe I should set up an email list - when I make a

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-22 Thread Daniel Murphy via Digitalmars-d
Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote in message news:aimenbdjdflzgkkte...@forum.dlang.org... Hardly, you have to be specific and make the number of issues covered in the next release small enough to create a feeling of being within reach in a short time span. People who don't care about fixing current

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-22 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d
People have already suggested you to actually try vibe.d at least once before repeating CSP is necessary for easy async mantra. I was trying to point out in some previous thread that the value of CSP is that concurrent things from the code looks like sync calls (not async, but sync). The

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-22 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 22 December 2014 at 08:22:35 UTC, Daniel Murphy wrote: Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote in message news:aimenbdjdflzgkkte...@forum.dlang.org... Hardly, you have to be specific and make the number of issues covered in the next release small enough to create a feeling of being within

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-22 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 22 December 2014 at 10:30:47 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: More importantly: it makes no business sense to invest in an open source project that shows clear signs of being mismanaged. Create a spec that has business value, manage the project well and people with a commercial

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-22 Thread deadalnix via Digitalmars-d
On Monday, 22 December 2014 at 01:08:00 UTC, ZombineDev wrote: NO. Just don't use features that you don't understand or like, but don't punish happy D users by demanding a crippled D version. On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 22:21:21 UTC, Vic wrote: ... That is a valid argument if feature

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-22 Thread ketmar via Digitalmars-d
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:51:15 + Bienlein via Digitalmars-d digitalmars-d@puremagic.com wrote: But for Go you only need to learn a drop simple language and you can start writing your server application, because all you need for concurrency is in the language. i can assure you that

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 15:14:28 UTC, Bienlein wrote: On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 14:06:51 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: That is why I seldom buy into hype driven development. Okay, so Docker is hype? Have you seen the impact of it? Every Java magazine has articles about Docker.

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 19:11:53 UTC, Vic wrote: Second smaller thing I 'elude' to but don't verbalize in that argument is my personal preference for a smaller language. Less is better/faster. I think this is the main reason why we have different perspective on necessity of change.

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Sat, 2014-12-20 at 22:09 +, Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 15:14:28 UTC, Bienlein wrote: […] Have a look at all the job offers for Go developers here: http://www.golangprojects.com. All those jobs are the result of some hype. I wasn't

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 09:30 +, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] This is very definition of hype. Yes, Go is hugely overblown and it has nothing to do with any of its technical features. Only business value Go truly has is simplicity and even that doesn't matter in practice.

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 10:33:09 UTC, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 09:30 +, Dicebot via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] This is very definition of hype. Yes, Go is hugely overblown and it has nothing to do with any of its technical features. Only

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 10:26:45 UTC, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: D was started as a better C++. Technically that may be true, but it has failed to gain traction in the market. Most C++ people will move to C++14 rather than D. Most C people will move to Go rather than C++

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread matovitch via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 11:18:43 UTC, Joakim wrote: Native efficiency combined with expressiveness and ease of use, as the front page says. That's too general-purpose to just go build some specialized app like docker, but in the long run may lead to much bigger wins. I think so

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 11:33:05 UTC, matovitch wrote: On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 11:18:43 UTC, Joakim wrote: Native efficiency combined with expressiveness and ease of use, as the front page says. That's too general-purpose to just go build some specialized app like docker, but

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 10:26:45 UTC, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: to C++14 rather than D. Most C people will move to Go rather than C++ or D. I would not use Go for anything I would consider C for atm, but I will move some stuff from Python to Go when it is supported on

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread Vic via Digitalmars-d
I think you nailed the argument. On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 09:36:00 UTC, Dicebot wrote: On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 19:11:53 UTC, Vic wrote: Second smaller thing I 'elude' to but don't verbalize in that argument is my personal preference for a smaller language. Less is

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread ZombineDev via Digitalmars-d
NO. Just don't use features that you don't understand or like, but don't punish happy D users by demanding a crippled D version. On Sunday, 21 December 2014 at 22:21:21 UTC, Vic wrote: ...

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-21 Thread Vic via Digitalmars-d
I assume in order for your company to be happy in using D, you'd want it work, right? That is all I'm saying as well, lots of git examples and commercial projects using D. And I'm not saying to remove *any* features at all. I'm saying *MOVE* some features, tbd. For example Linux has Kernal and

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Daniel Murphy via Digitalmars-d
Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote in message news:fjmtziqyopoyrpesz...@forum.dlang.org... Yes, but it would be easy to define some focused goals for each release and refuse to touch stuff that belongs to a later release. E.g. It would be easy to define such a list, but it would be near-impossible

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d
I would say that D needs a usecase that puts it aside from other languages. For Java this was the Internet. For Go it was channel-based concurrency in conjunction with some style of green threads (aka CSP). It is now the time of server side concurrent programming. I would suggest to jump onto

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 12:19:34 UTC, Bienlein wrote: I would say that D needs a usecase that puts it aside from other languages. For Java this was the Internet. For Go it was channel-based concurrency in conjunction with some style of green threads (aka CSP). It is now the time of

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 12:19:34 UTC, Bienlein wrote: I would say that D needs a usecase that puts it aside from other languages. For Java this was the Internet. For Go it was channel-based concurrency in conjunction with some style of green threads (aka CSP). It is now the time of

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 12:24:29 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 12:19:34 UTC, Bienlein wrote: I would say that D needs a usecase that puts it aside from other languages. For Java this was the Internet. For Go it was channel-based concurrency in conjunction

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 12:21:49 UTC, Dicebot wrote: CSP is not superior to message passing for concurrent server programming and D already beats Go in this domain, it is purely marketing crap. Stop repeating same statement over and over again with no technical data to back it up. Or

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
People have already suggested you to actually try vibe.d at least once before repeating CSP is necessary for easy async mantra. How about actually doing so? vibe.d + std.concurrency gives you pretty much standard actor model - it lacks more complicated schedulers and network message passing

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 12:50:02 UTC, Dicebot wrote: People have already suggested you to actually try vibe.d at least once before repeating CSP is necessary for easy async mantra. How about actually doing so? vibe.d + std.concurrency gives you pretty much standard actor model - it

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread ponce via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 12:39:01 UTC, Bienlein wrote: This way a lot of people out there have built server side systems with Go in record time. All the startups using Go are proof for this. I would be wary of extrapolating best practices from what startups do. Startups succeed when

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 13:56:01 UTC, ponce wrote: On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 12:39:01 UTC, Bienlein wrote: This way a lot of people out there have built server side systems with Go in record time. All the startups using Go are proof for this. I would be wary of extrapolating

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread ponce via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 14:06:51 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: That is why I seldom buy into hype driven development. Usually on our teams if a specific technology wasn't explicitly requested by the customer, whoever is bringing it in has to answer what is the business value to the

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d
On Saturday, 20 December 2014 at 14:06:51 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: That is why I seldom buy into hype driven development. Okay, so Docker is hype? Have you seen the impact of it? Every Java magazine has articles about Docker. And that is not because Java people had an interest in it, because

Re: What is the D plan's to become a used language?

2014-12-20 Thread Vic via Digitalmars-d
First, thank you all the committers for a 'gifted free' lang that we use to build a company, we could have used any lang, we chose D. My point is on 'management' more than on 'software'. On management, *EVERY* project is resource constrained, so imo, D should figure out what resources it has

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