Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-12 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 7 May 2014 at 15:54:42 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: So the videos of the Gophercon 2014 are being made available. Rob Pike did the keynote. At the expected question about generics, his answer was There are no plans for generics. I said we're going to leave the language; we're done..

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-10 Thread Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d
On 09/05/2014 18:25, brad clawsie wrote: The official mailing list has practically no mention of generics anymore. I think it comes up fairly regularly, despite the ML regulars being very anti-generics. This was posted just 2 months ago:

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 05:22:36 UTC, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 19:37 +, Jesse Phillips via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] Ah, well context around it removes all my claims. It is clear he is saying that Go 1.x will not have generics. Given the statements

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d
Well, he had previously stated that there would be no breaking changes, and that if there were changes it would have to be called go version 2 or something. So when generics were brought up he stated that there were no plans for generics and I said we are going to leave the language, we are

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 07:05:59 UTC, Bienlein wrote: Well, he had previously stated that there would be no breaking changes, and that if there were changes it would have to be called go version 2 or something. So when generics were brought up he stated that there were no plans for generics

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Bruno Medeiros via Digitalmars-d
On 08/05/2014 22:09, Bienlein wrote: On Wednesday, 7 May 2014 at 15:54:42 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: So the videos of the Gophercon 2014 are being made available. Rob Pike did the keynote. At the expected question about generics, his answer was There are no plans for generics. I said we're going

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 07:38:46 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 07:05:59 UTC, Bienlein wrote: Well, he had previously stated that there would be no breaking changes, and that if there were changes it would have to be called go version 2 or something. So when generics were

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 11:46:20 UTC, Chris wrote: On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 07:38:46 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 07:05:59 UTC, Bienlein wrote: Well, he had previously stated that there would be no breaking changes, and that if there were changes it would have to be

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 07:38:46 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: I had the opportunity to meet Wirth at CERN, when he and a few ETHZ members took part on the Oberon Day, back in 2004. He is really great guy, but he could not understand why Oberon was being ignored in the industry. As he expected the

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Chris via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 13:59:38 UTC, Dicebot wrote: On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 07:38:46 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: I had the opportunity to meet Wirth at CERN, when he and a few ETHZ members took part on the Oberon Day, back in 2004. He is really great guy, but he could not understand why Oberon

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread brad clawsie via Digitalmars-d
Beyond being fodder for people who don't write Go but hate it for some reason, this seems to be an ongoing non-event. The official mailing list has practically no mention of generics anymore.

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d
On 5/9/2014 7:18 AM, Chris wrote: There is this conflict between textbooks and real world (hardware / software interaction). Walter once said on this forum that when he sees textbook examples, he says that things don't really work that way. Found that out when implementing textbook

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Jesse Phillips via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 11:46:20 UTC, Chris wrote: If not, better not to introduce them. D, at a certain point in time, started to be designed around templates, or with templates in mind. I think it was Andrei who convinced Walter to do that. It wasn't Andrei, but I don't remember who

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Jesse Phillips via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 11:38:13 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote: I find this aspect much more interesting than the get generics or not one. So Rob Pike and the other guy is leaving the language then? No, the context around what he said is very important. Google isn't leaving Go development,

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread brad clawsie via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 19:07:24 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote: No, the context around what he said is very important. Google isn't leaving Go development, generics are not nixed for Go 2.0, the language will continue to see bug fixes. This is all very clear with context. I see this as a good.

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-09 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 21:03:06 UTC, brad clawsie wrote: On Friday, 9 May 2014 at 19:07:24 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote: No, the context around what he said is very important. Google isn't leaving Go development, generics are not nixed for Go 2.0, the language will continue to see bug fixes.

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-08 Thread Jesse Phillips via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 7 May 2014 at 15:54:42 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: So the videos of the Gophercon 2014 are being made available. Rob Pike did the keynote. At the expected question about generics, his answer was There are no plans for generics. I said we're going to leave the language; we're done..

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-08 Thread Jesse Phillips via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 8 May 2014 at 18:29:45 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote: This statement doesn't sound like the no generics is the important part. It seems more like they have no plans to make Go 2.0, at least not with it bringing big breaking changes as people keep pointing out will happen. But that

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-08 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 7 May 2014 at 15:54:42 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: So the videos of the Gophercon 2014 are being made available. Rob Pike did the keynote. At the expected question about generics, his answer was There are no plans for generics. I said we're going to leave the language; we're done..

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-08 Thread via Digitalmars-d
On Thursday, 8 May 2014 at 21:09:38 UTC, Bienlein wrote: I agree with Paulo. At 54:40 he says what Paulo has already quoted. And we are done means that's it, folks. It even sounds to me like the language is finished and it will be left like that. Well, he had previously stated that there

Re: [OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-08 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d
On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 19:37 +, Jesse Phillips via Digitalmars-d wrote: […] Ah, well context around it removes all my claims. It is clear he is saying that Go 1.x will not have generics. Given the statements about backward compatibility there is no way Go 1.x can have generics. I'm fairly

[OT] Go officially won't get generics

2014-05-07 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d
So the videos of the Gophercon 2014 are being made available. Rob Pike did the keynote. At the expected question about generics, his answer was There are no plans for generics. I said we're going to leave the language; we're done.. Discussion ongoing on HN,