Re: Taunting

2009-06-01 Thread BCS
Reply to Ary, (I came to this conclusion when trying to debug the scrapple:units project). I'm sorry g OTOH that is a rater pathological cases. One option that might be doable (I don't know how the inside works so I'm guessing here) is to have the debug more highlight expression that can

Re: Taunting

2009-05-30 Thread Ary Borenszweig
Robert Fraser escribió: Ary Borenszweig Wrote: Ary Borenszweig escribió: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M Bah... I just realized debugging that kind of things might be really hart to do. Imagine this: --- char[] something() { return x *= 3; x += 4;; } mixin(int bla(int

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-29 Thread Alexander Pánek
Nick Sabalausky wrote: Alexander P�nek alexander.pa...@brainsware.org wrote in message news:gvlrua$16p...@digitalmars.com... grauzone wrote: browsers. What's the big deal everyone have with Javascript? Look mah, JS and Flash combined in shiny modal windows:

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-29 Thread Alexander Pánek
Nick Sabalausky wrote: Alexander P�nek alexander.pa...@brainsware.org wrote in message news:gvm3qh$1ld...@digitalmars.com... grauzone wrote: Alexander P�nek wrote: grauzone wrote: Alexander P�nek wrote: Look mah, JS and Flash combined in shiny modal windows:

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-29 Thread BCS
Reply to Nick, [sniped rant about why the web sucks] I'll grant you most of that and I don't care about the rest. It's ironic that this should come up in the D community because it sounds a lot like C++ template are to the web like D template are to what the web should be. That is; the Web

Re: Taunting

2009-05-29 Thread Ary Borenszweig
Ary Borenszweig escribió: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M Bah... I just realized debugging that kind of things might be really hart to do. Imagine this: --- char[] something() { return x *= 3; x += 4;; } mixin(int bla(int x) { x *= 2; ~ something ~ return 4; }); void

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-29 Thread Nick Sabalausky
BCS a...@pathlink.com wrote in message news:78ccfa2d417fc8cbae8318d2e...@news.digitalmars.com... Reply to Nick, [sniped rant about why the web sucks] I'll grant you most of that and I don't care about the rest. Cool and Fair enough ;) It's ironic that this should come up in the D

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-28 Thread grauzone
Alexander Pánek wrote: grauzone wrote: browsers. What's the big deal everyone have with Javascript? It's unnecessary, annoying, slower, and adds security holes. When using Firefox, I usually use NoScript to block all scripts by default. Sometimes, some minor things don't work, and I have to

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-28 Thread grauzone
Alexander Pánek wrote: grauzone wrote: Alexander Pánek wrote: grauzone wrote: browsers. What's the big deal everyone have with Javascript? It's unnecessary, annoying, slower, and adds security holes. When using Firefox, I usually use NoScript to block all scripts by default. Sometimes,

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-25 Thread BCS
Hello Nick, I wish you were a higher-up at Epic ;) They seem to have pretty much the opposite attitude, and I get so worked-up every time I see a quote from CliffyB or any of the others... I'm sorry to disappoint, but gaming is the only case where building to the latest hardware has any

Re: Taunting

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
Give me a break. You guys act like it's a fucking affront to your religion to have to use Flash or Youtube. Sorry for complaining about the necessity to be forced to install an annoying, crappy, utterly obnoxious plugin like Flash, that barely adds functionality to anything, but instead

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
browsers. What's the big deal everyone have with Javascript? It's unnecessary, annoying, slower, and adds security holes. When using Firefox, I usually use NoScript to block all scripts by default. Sometimes, some minor things don't work, and I have to enable JS. Now it's really rare to see

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread BCS
Hello Nick, Yes, yes, yes. This. All of it. [...] Anything that can be used for good can be used for ill. Yes, lots of sites out there are junk, but that would be true no matter what tools were available. The (long term) solution isn't to reject the tools but to figure out how to make

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
grauzone n...@example.net wrote in message news:gvc6r3$2dm...@digitalmars.com... Nick Sabalausky wrote: Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote in message news:gvc4kc$29b...@digitalmars.com... And, (and here's the real clincher), since I obviously can't enforce proper design on the web, the one

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Saaa
I'm starting to get the impression that you just have a _really slow Javascript interpreter_ in your browser. I have no idea what you're talking about with text input lag. I have never experienced that. And the Tango API opens in about 2 seconds with JS enabled for me. What browser are you

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote in message news:gvcac0$2k6...@digitalmars.com... The tango website is the slowest website I know, so I think it is an exceptionally bad example for showing js being slow as I know a lot of websites which use loads more of web 2.o stuff and show up in less than a

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Saaa
Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote in message news:gvcb23$2lg...@digitalmars.com... Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote in message news:gvcac0$2k6...@digitalmars.com... The tango website is the slowest website I know, so I think it is an exceptionally bad example for showing js being slow as I know

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Jarrett Billingsley jarrett.billings...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.165.1243195228.13405.digitalmars-d-annou...@puremagic.com... I'm starting to get the impression that you just have a _really slow Javascript interpreter_ in your browser. I have no idea what you're talking about

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote in message news:gvcb0n$2l9...@digitalmars.com... And then there's FlashBlock, which I *would* absolutely love...except it *only* works with JS enabled!!! ^$^%^^!!! And frankly, I just don't have the time to dig into FF extension-writing and do things the way I

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
Adblock is essential. Most ads have gotten so completely out-of-hand, I seriously wouldn't even be using the web anymore if it weren't for Adblock. Definitely. It's also useful for blocking other obnoxious stuff like emoticons or avatars in those phpBB forums. IIRC, I think NoScript does let

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
What browser are you *using*? Firefox. But I often use Konqueror for serious work (!= entertainment, wasting time). With Konqueror, some sites become dead slow with Java Script enabled. Oh, and although Konqueror is a very nice browser, scripting often causes malfunctions. That all just

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Jarrett Billingsley
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote: Jarrett Billingsley jarrett.billings...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.165.1243195228.13405.digitalmars-d-annou...@puremagic.com... I'm starting to get the impression that you just have a _really slow Javascript

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
to get a new machine? They're like $12 now. Where can I buy 12$ computers?

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Saaa
And then there's FlashBlock, which I *would* absolutely love...except it *only* works with JS enabled!!! ^$^%^^!!! And frankly, I just don't have the time to dig into FF extension-writing and do things the way I really want them. Just use noscript for blocking flash I don't like the way

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Saaa
My only concern with NoScript is, enabling a site reloads all tabs containing a script from that site. Oh, and by default, it shows some sort of GUI animation when loading a site with blocked scripts. But you can disable it. As you can disable the reloading ;)

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Jarrett Billingsley
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:12 PM, grauzone n...@example.net wrote: to get a new machine?  They're like $12 now. Where can I buy 12$ computers? lern2hyperbole.

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Saaa
Some sort of multi-core 64-bit? I don't care if that's all that the stores are currently trying to sell, lol

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
Saaa wrote: My only concern with NoScript is, enabling a site reloads all tabs containing a script from that site. Oh, and by default, it shows some sort of GUI animation when loading a site with blocked scripts. But you can disable it. As you can disable the reloading ;) Thanks. And going

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread grauzone
Jarrett Billingsley wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:12 PM, grauzone n...@example.net wrote: to get a new machine? They're like $12 now. Where can I buy 12$ computers? lern2hyperbole. Needing brand new PC hardware for using heavy websites is not really an exaggeration, though. As soon

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Robert Clipsham
grauzone wrote: Needing brand new PC hardware for using heavy websites is not really an exaggeration, though. As soon as you have several instances of that website loaded (in different browser windows, tabs, etc.), things are _definitely_ starting to get no fun, even with an overclocked, 64

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Jarrett Billingsley jarrett.billings...@gmail.com wrote in message news:mailman.166.1243199156.13405.digitalmars-d-annou...@puremagic.com... On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote: I use Firefox too. My computer isn't even a fire-breathing monster by today's

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote in message news:gvcdpg$2q8...@digitalmars.com... Some sort of multi-core 64-bit? I don't care if that's all that the stores are currently trying to sell, lol Just trying to anticipate that argument. It's amazing how many times I've seen people try to argue that

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread BCS
Hello Nick, Just trying to anticipate that argument. It's amazing how many times I've seen people try to argue that something isn't worth developing for just because the stores don't sell them. What matters is what is people are *using*, not what the stores are selling. Should they stop

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Ary Borenszweig a...@esperanto.org.ar wrote in message news:gvcehp$2rd...@digitalmars.com... grauzone escribió: browsers. What's the big deal everyone have with Javascript? It's unnecessary, annoying, slower, and adds security holes. Anything which connects to the internet poses a security

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-24 Thread Nick Sabalausky
BCS n...@anon.com wrote in message news:a6268ff64568cbaad2fa3b9...@news.digitalmars.com... Hello Nick, Just trying to anticipate that argument. It's amazing how many times I've seen people try to argue that something isn't worth developing for just because the stores don't sell them. What

Re: OT: Flash (Was: Re: Taunting)

2009-05-23 Thread Daniel Keep
Robert Fraser wrote: Daniel Keep wrote: The only way Flash will die if if at least the following happen: ... 5. Silverlight replaces it (and then we're all doomed). Then we'd just be exchanging one problem for another (arguably) worse one.

Re: Taunting

2009-05-23 Thread Daniel Keep
Nick Sabalausky wrote: Daniel Keep daniel.keep.li...@gmail.com wrote in message news:gv6ddk$1ko...@digitalmars.com... Possessing a burning hatred of Flash isn't going to get everyone else to stop using it. If that worked, we'd have killed off IE6 years ago. Either build a better system

Re: OT: Flash (Was: Re: Taunting)

2009-05-23 Thread naryl
Daniel Keep Wrote: Robert Fraser wrote: Daniel Keep wrote: The only way Flash will die if if at least the following happen: ... 5. Silverlight replaces it (and then we're all doomed). Then we'd just be exchanging one problem for another (arguably) worse one. What about JavaFX?

Re: Taunting

2009-05-23 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Daniel Keep daniel.keep.li...@gmail.com wrote in message news:gv890t$1rj...@digitalmars.com... Do anything other than just yell at people for using the best option available to them and offer nothing in return. That's just it, it's far from the best option, particularly among a group of

Re: Taunting

2009-05-23 Thread BCS
Hello Nick, what they can do is additionally provide a non-youtube/flash version. Which should be really [censored] easy since they had to have already had one in order to upload it to craptube in the first place. If they can, yes, but they might not have access to general file hosting or if

OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-23 Thread Ary Borenszweig
BCS escribió: Hello Nick, what they can do is additionally provide a non-youtube/flash version. Which should be really [censored] easy since they had to have already had one in order to upload it to craptube in the first place. If they can, yes, but they might not have access to general file

Re: OT: Flash and Javascript (Was: Taunting)

2009-05-23 Thread Charles Hixson
Ary Borenszweig wrote: BCS escribió: Hello Nick, what they can do is additionally provide a non-youtube/flash version. Which should be really [censored] easy since they had to have already had one in order to upload it to craptube in the first place. If they can, yes, but they might not

Re: Taunting

2009-05-23 Thread BCS
Hello Nick, BCS n...@anon.com wrote in message news:a6268ff63c58cba9bbc96d8...@news.digitalmars.com... Hello Nick, what they can do is additionally provide a non-youtube/flash version. Which should be really [censored] easy since they had to have already had one in order to upload it to

Re: Taunting

2009-05-23 Thread Jarrett Billingsley
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Nick Sabalausky a...@a.a wrote: BCS n...@anon.com wrote in message news:a6268ff63c58cba9bbc96d8...@news.digitalmars.com... Hello Nick, what they can do is additionally provide a non-youtube/flash version. Which should be really [censored] easy since they had

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Lutger
Ary Borenszweig wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M when is the next release, pretty please? :)

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Tomas Lindquist Olsen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Ary Borenszweig a...@esperanto.org.ar wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M Pretty cool feature :)

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Saaa
grauzone n...@example.net wrote in message news:gv4p44$1jq...@digitalmars.com... Ary Borenszweig wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M How about posting a link to something everyone can play? Like an actual video file? Thank you. Isn't youtube a video upload site with an

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Leandro Lucarella
Ary Borenszweig, el 21 de mayo a las 22:22 me escribiste: Leandro Lucarella escribió: BCS, el 22 de mayo a las 00:01 me escribiste: Reply to Ary, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M The clunk you just heard is my jaw bouncing on the floor G NICE! That's what happens when you

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread grauzone
BCS wrote: Reply to Ary, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M The clunk you just heard is my jaw bouncing on the floor G NICE! It would be very nice to have such a debugging feature. Too bad it's hardcoded into a very bug GUI system. Even if I spent hours configuring Eclipse

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread grauzone
It would be very nice to have such a debugging feature. Too bad it's hardcoded into a very bug GUI system. I meant to write big, not bug. Talk about Freudian Slips!

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Leandro Lucarella
grauzone, el 22 de mayo a las 15:41 me escribiste: Saaa wrote: grauzone n...@example.net wrote in message news:gv4p44$1jq...@digitalmars.com... Ary Borenszweig wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M How about posting a link to something everyone can play? Like an actual video

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Ary Borenszweig
Daniel Keep wrote: grauzone wrote: BCS wrote: Reply to Ary, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M The clunk you just heard is my jaw bouncing on the floor G NICE! It would be very nice to have such a debugging feature. Too bad it's hardcoded into a very bug GUI system. Yes,

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread grauzone
Daniel Keep wrote: grauzone wrote: Saaa wrote: grauzone n...@example.net wrote in message news:gv4p44$1jq...@digitalmars.com... Ary Borenszweig wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M How about posting a link to something everyone can play? Like an actual video file? Thank you.

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread grauzone
Yes, heaven forbid Ary spends his time adding and improving features when he should be building a new editor from the ground up. That's not what I'm saying. First, he's free to do with his time whatever he chooses to. Second, I think it'd be better to decouple debugger and editor. For

OT: Flash (Was: Re: Taunting)

2009-05-22 Thread Daniel Keep
grauzone wrote: Daniel Keep wrote: Obviously the large number of people using such sites are trying to prove you wrong. :P They just don't know it better. They probably think their PC isn't fast enough for fullscreen video playback and so on. Maybe they don't even know what's making

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Saaa
If I could get that in a super fast, light programming editor, I'd use that instead. But I can't. Wasn't there an effort somewhere to port eclipse to D ?

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Daniel Keep daniel.keep.li...@gmail.com wrote in message news:gv6ddk$1ko...@digitalmars.com... grauzone wrote: Saaa wrote: grauzone n...@example.net wrote in message news:gv4p44$1jq...@digitalmars.com... Ary Borenszweig wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M How about posting a

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Nick Sabalausky
Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote in message news:gv6qcj$2ck...@digitalmars.com... If I could get that in a super fast, light programming editor, I'd use that instead. But I can't. Wasn't there an effort somewhere to port eclipse to D ? I have no idea, but that does raise an interesting

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Robert Fraser
Nick Sabalausky wrote: Saaa em...@needmail.com wrote in message news:gv6qcj$2ck...@digitalmars.com... If I could get that in a super fast, light programming editor, I'd use that instead. But I can't. Wasn't there an effort somewhere to port eclipse to D ? I have no idea, but that does

Re: OT: Flash (Was: Re: Taunting)

2009-05-22 Thread Robert Fraser
Daniel Keep wrote: The only way Flash will die if if at least the following happen: ... 5. Silverlight replaces it (and then we're all doomed).

Re: Taunting

2009-05-22 Thread Jesse Phillips
On Fri, 22 May 2009 20:26:32 +0200, Saaa wrote: If I could get that in a super fast, light programming editor, I'd use that instead. But I can't. Wasn't there an effort somewhere to port eclipse to D ? Frank has an interest in having Eclipse ported, but nothing has been started that I

Taunting

2009-05-21 Thread Ary Borenszweig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M

Re: Taunting

2009-05-21 Thread grauzone
Ary Borenszweig wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M How about posting a link to something everyone can play? Like an actual video file? Thank you.

Re: Taunting

2009-05-21 Thread BCS
Reply to Ary, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M The clunk you just heard is my jaw bouncing on the floor G NICE!

Re: Taunting

2009-05-21 Thread Ary Borenszweig
Leandro Lucarella escribió: BCS, el 22 de mayo a las 00:01 me escribiste: Reply to Ary, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M The clunk you just heard is my jaw bouncing on the floor G NICE! That's what happens when you have a turing complete language inside another! There is no

Re: Taunting

2009-05-21 Thread Jason House
Ary Borenszweig Wrote: grauzone escribió: Ary Borenszweig wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYCFVPfx4M How about posting a link to something everyone can play? Like an actual video file? Thank you. Awww, but that made the tauting much better. :-(