Re: std.experimental.xml available on DUB

2016-07-31 Thread Lodovico Giaretta via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 18:38:32 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote:
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 09:26:27 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta 
wrote:

Hi,

I'm proud to announce that std.experimental.xml v0.1.0 is 
available on DUB [1]!



If you find any issue / have any suggestion, please file an 
issue on Github [3].


Thank you.


Why is it 15 files when kxml is only one?


kxml is way more than a file. You may say that its parser is just 
a file. In std.experimental.xml, the parser is at most three 
files (it depends on what you mean by parser), not fifteen.


kxml is also way limited with respect to std.experimental.xml. It 
does not support many features, like custom allocators (because 
they don't exist in Java). It does not have to strive to be @nogc 
(because it does not exist in Java). It does not support high 
customization, with custom lexers, pluggable validations, full 
DOM Level 3 support, with the ability for the user to provide a 
custom DOM implementation and have the DOMBuilder use it instead 
of the default provided DOM implementation. It does not support 
SAX with DbI on the handler type. It does not support outputting 
XML using a custom formatter, again with DbI.


Also keep in mind that std.experimental.xml contains LOTS of 
lines of unittests and some code is there just because Phobos 
does not provide some essential tools for the job.


It is true that I could merge some of these files, as they are 
almost all quite short, but I prefer them this way, cause they 
are easier to handle.


Re: std.experimental.xml available on DUB

2016-07-31 Thread Guillaume Piolat via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 09:26:27 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta 
wrote:

Hi,

I'm proud to announce that std.experimental.xml v0.1.0 is 
available on DUB [1]!



If you find any issue / have any suggestion, please file an 
issue on Github [3].


Thank you.


Why is it 15 files when kxml is only one?


Re: std.experimental.xml available on DUB

2016-07-31 Thread LaTeigne via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 15:36:47 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta wrote:

On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 15:28:14 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 09:26:27 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta

Thank you for your comments.

Talking about your points:
1) the interner shall really go away before inclusion in 
Phobos; it is unneeded; its code is already partially 
duplicated in CopyingCursor (std.experimental.xml.cursor); but 
it would be good to have something like this in Phobos, 
somewhere in the future.
2) The appender is needed, as the Phobos one does not work with 
custom allocators; I don't have the time to polish it for 
Phobos adoption, so putting it in an internal xml submodule may 
be a great idea.


Yes that's the most reasonable solution, unless someone has the 
time to polish it for you and enough karma to get it pulled in 
the allocator package (very unlikely as adding new stuffs in 
phobos is usually not a piece of cake. Anyway it would really 
have its place there since there's already all the array 
routines: make expand shrink etc.)


3) The fastXXX functions are intended for internal usage; they 
will have package protection in the final library (I really 
forgot about this thing; thanks).


I will tag v0.1.1 late this night


Ok, I'm gonna check this tomorrow.


Re: std.experimental.xml available on DUB

2016-07-31 Thread Lodovico Giaretta via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 15:28:14 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 09:26:27 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta 
wrote:

Hi,

I'm proud to announce that std.experimental.xml v0.1.0 is 
available on DUB [1]!


This is the project I'm working on for GSoC 2016. It aims to 
become a substitution for Phobos std.xml. Now you can easily 
try it and provide some feedback. I will soon create a WIP PR 
on the Phobos repository.


I suggest you to depend on ~master instead of v0.1.0, as 
bugfixes and enhancements are added on a daily basis (v0.1.0 
is already one commit behind!)


Current limitations:
1) The documentation [2] is very limited;
2) Some advanced DOM methods are not completely implemented;
3) Some advanced features (e.g. DTD validation, namespace 
checks) are not yet available.


If you find any issue / have any suggestion, please file an 
issue on Github [3].


Thank you.

[1] https://code.dlang.org/packages/std-experimental-xml
[2] https://lodo1995.github.io/experimental.xml/
[3] https://github.com/lodo1995/experimental.xml


I have two comments.

What is the plan for the string interner and the 
allocator-based appender ?


They are neither part of the package, nor proposed in phobos, 
it seems that you'll encounter a problme in the package 
structure itself. This is also problemtaic now if I want to 
test it I have to add 3 import paths to sc.conf.


I suggest you either to propose them for phobos or to add them 
in a subpackage "internal" **inside xml** (or in a big 
internal.d module) like it's done for several phobos packages 
(algos, ndslices).


_

I see a naming problem in you "fast" strings: fastIndexOf, 
fastEqual etc.


This is not good: does it mean that phobos's equivalent are 
slow ? Does it mean that you'll also propose slow equivalents 
(This is absurd, but it shows the problem).


Thank you for your comments.

Talking about your points:
1) the interner shall really go away before inclusion in Phobos; 
it is unneeded; its code is already partially duplicated in 
CopyingCursor (std.experimental.xml.cursor); but it would be good 
to have something like this in Phobos, somewhere in the future.
2) The appender is needed, as the Phobos one does not work with 
custom allocators; I don't have the time to polish it for Phobos 
adoption, so putting it in an internal xml submodule may be a 
great idea.
3) The fastXXX functions are intended for internal usage; they 
will have package protection in the final library (I really 
forgot about this thing; thanks).


I will tag v0.1.1 late this night, with some fixes based on the 
feedback from you and Steven.


Thank you again.


Re: std.experimental.xml available on DUB

2016-07-31 Thread LaTeigne via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 09:26:27 UTC, Lodovico Giaretta 
wrote:

Hi,

I'm proud to announce that std.experimental.xml v0.1.0 is 
available on DUB [1]!


This is the project I'm working on for GSoC 2016. It aims to 
become a substitution for Phobos std.xml. Now you can easily 
try it and provide some feedback. I will soon create a WIP PR 
on the Phobos repository.


I suggest you to depend on ~master instead of v0.1.0, as 
bugfixes and enhancements are added on a daily basis (v0.1.0 is 
already one commit behind!)


Current limitations:
1) The documentation [2] is very limited;
2) Some advanced DOM methods are not completely implemented;
3) Some advanced features (e.g. DTD validation, namespace 
checks) are not yet available.


If you find any issue / have any suggestion, please file an 
issue on Github [3].


Thank you.

[1] https://code.dlang.org/packages/std-experimental-xml
[2] https://lodo1995.github.io/experimental.xml/
[3] https://github.com/lodo1995/experimental.xml


I have two comments.

What is the plan for the string interner and the allocator-based 
appender ?


They are neither part of the package, nor proposed in phobos, it 
seems that you'll encounter a problme in the package structure 
itself. This is also problemtaic now if I want to test it I have 
to add 3 import paths to sc.conf.


I suggest you either to propose them for phobos or to add them in 
a subpackage "internal" **inside xml** (or in a big internal.d 
module) like it's done for several phobos packages (algos, 
ndslices).


_

I see a naming problem in you "fast" strings: fastIndexOf, 
fastEqual etc.


This is not good: does it mean that phobos's equivalent are slow 
? Does it mean that you'll also propose slow equivalents (This is 
absurd, but it shows the problem).


Re: std.experimental.xml available on DUB

2016-07-31 Thread Lodovico Giaretta via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 12:04:18 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:

On 7/30/16 5:26 AM, Lodovico Giaretta wrote:

[...]

Good to see this advancing!

I'm looking at the cursor API and like what I see.


Good to know. The cursor API is the central concept of the 
library, even if it will probably not be directly used by many.



A couple things:
1) I see struct Cursor is not tagged for documentation, yet all 
it's members are. Your docs are missing out on a lot of stuff 
here! This might be true elsewhere too, make sure you tag types 
for documentation or the members won't show up in the docs.


You are right. Many things are only partially documented. I'm 
working to improve the situation. For now, you can find the 
documentation of Cursor in std.experimental.xml.isCursor, as this 
is in fact where it belongs. I will definitely mark struct Cursor 
for documentation, and add the relevant link to template isCursor.


2) The function "exit", I don't like. This is bikeshedding, but 
I just don't like the possibility that to conflate with C exit. 
I don't have a good replacement name for enter/exit, so this 
comment is pretty minor.


I don't agree with you on this. But I'm not too attached to that 
name either, so if anyone can suggest a better name pair for 
enter/exit, I have no problem in changing it. In general, I'm 
open to every kind of change that would ease usage and 
understanding.


Thank you for your feedback.


Re: std.experimental.xml available on DUB

2016-07-31 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 7/30/16 5:26 AM, Lodovico Giaretta wrote:

Hi,

I'm proud to announce that std.experimental.xml v0.1.0 is available on
DUB [1]!

This is the project I'm working on for GSoC 2016. It aims to become a
substitution for Phobos std.xml. Now you can easily try it and provide
some feedback. I will soon create a WIP PR on the Phobos repository.

I suggest you to depend on ~master instead of v0.1.0, as bugfixes and
enhancements are added on a daily basis (v0.1.0 is already one commit
behind!)

Current limitations:
1) The documentation [2] is very limited;
2) Some advanced DOM methods are not completely implemented;
3) Some advanced features (e.g. DTD validation, namespace checks) are
not yet available.

If you find any issue / have any suggestion, please file an issue on
Github [3].

Thank you.

[1] https://code.dlang.org/packages/std-experimental-xml
[2] https://lodo1995.github.io/experimental.xml/
[3] https://github.com/lodo1995/experimental.xml


Good to see this advancing!

I'm looking at the cursor API and like what I see.

A couple things:
1) I see struct Cursor is not tagged for documentation, yet all it's 
members are. Your docs are missing out on a lot of stuff here! This 
might be true elsewhere too, make sure you tag types for documentation 
or the members won't show up in the docs.
2) The function "exit", I don't like. This is bikeshedding, but I just 
don't like the possibility that to conflate with C exit. I don't have a 
good replacement name for enter/exit, so this comment is pretty minor.


-Steve


Re: Battle-plan for CTFE

2016-07-31 Thread Stefan Koch via Digitalmars-d-announce

I am very happy to announce that calls are almost working now.
And the code-gen-interface[1] is near finalization.

It should be very easy to provide different back-ends such as 
LLVM or libJIT now.

The missing pieces well be added during next week.

I invite everyone to comment on the interface and code.

Don't be shy and feel free to comment

[1] 
https://github.com/UplinkCoder/dmd/blob/newCTFE/src/bc_common.d#L313


So far the strong decoupling between dmd and the bytecode has 
worked out pretty well.


Being able to debug and test the bytecode component independently 
from the AST-processing makes for a faster development process 
and allows insight into the code-gen behavior.