Re: DLS deprecation

2020-04-09 Thread Laurent Tréguier via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 April 2020 at 15:49:51 UTC, Petar Kirov 
[ZombineDev] wrote:
The idea is to move it there, so other motivated members of the 
community can pick up the torch from where you left it and 
continue active development.


I doubt anyone will pick it up, but if someone wanted to, I would 
happily move it.


Yes, I understand your intention. I still think it's better to 
leave it there for now, even if it's completely unmaintained, 
as removing it immediately causes more friction than the 
potential problems you're trying to avoid. Later on, we can 
publish the extension again under the dlang-community publisher 
and then you won't have to worry that people will complain to 
you when things break.


That's understandable, it's not broken just yet. I'll republish 
it for now.


Re: DLS deprecation

2020-04-09 Thread Petar via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Thursday, 9 April 2020 at 15:25:46 UTC, Laurent Tréguier wrote:
On Thursday, 9 April 2020 at 14:59:41 UTC, Petar Kirov 
[ZombineDev] wrote:
Thanks a lot for your work! What do you think about 
transferring the project to dlang-community? Also, I think 
it's better to leave the VSCode extension in the marketplace, 
even if you're not able to continue working on it, people 
would still like to continue to use it. For example, I 
recently switched computers and I just found out that the 
extension was unpublished.


It could be transferred to dlang-community if other members 
agreed to, but I don't know what this would achieve; I don't 
see the benefit of adding an archived project there.


The idea is to move it there, so other motivated members of the 
community can pick up the torch from where you left it and 
continue active development.


The reason I unpublished it is because I don't want to leave an 
unmaintained extension in the marketplace.


Yes, I understand your intention. I still think it's better to 
leave it there for now, even if it's completely unmaintained, as 
removing it immediately causes more friction than the potential 
problems you're trying to avoid. Later on, we can publish the 
extension again under the dlang-community publisher and then you 
won't have to worry that people will complain to you when things 
break.


However, it's still possible to use it, you simply need to 
clone the extension repo with git, run `npm install` and 
`./node_modules/.bin/vsce package`, and then install the 
resulting VSIX file from VSCode (in the extension panel, there 
is an option to "install from VSIX")


Thanks, I'll try this!




Re: DLS deprecation

2020-04-09 Thread Petar via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 8 April 2020 at 12:47:57 UTC, aliak wrote:

[..]

I've been meaning to give flutter a try though... it seems to 
be catching steam. Only problem is google is "known" for just 
dropping things. But who knows, let's see.




Flutter is indeed pretty cool. We've used it last year at work. 
And we'll likely continue using in the second half of this year.
I don't think Flutter will go away as it's been gaining really 
high traction (almost 90k stars on GitHub [1]), and in general, 
it looks like Google is accelerating its investment in the tech 
and the community [2]. Also, AFAIK, it's the primary app platform 
for their upcoming Fuchsia OS.


The Dart language, however, is seriously handicapped. It's much 
better than Go, but that's a pretty low bar. Ever since I've used 
Flutter, I've been making plans to create a tool that translates 
Dart code to D, so I could use the Flutter engine and the Flutter 
framework to write a D app ;)


[1]: https://github.com/flutter/flutter
[2]: https://flutterevents.com/


Re: DLS deprecation

2020-04-09 Thread Laurent Tréguier via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 9 April 2020 at 14:59:41 UTC, Petar Kirov 
[ZombineDev] wrote:
Thanks a lot for your work! What do you think about 
transferring the project to dlang-community? Also, I think it's 
better to leave the VSCode extension in the marketplace, even 
if you're not able to continue working on it, people would 
still like to continue to use it. For example, I recently 
switched computers and I just found out that the extension was 
unpublished.


It could be transferred to dlang-community if other members 
agreed to, but I don't know what this would achieve; I don't see 
the benefit of adding an archived project there.


The reason I unpublished it is because I don't want to leave an 
unmaintained extension in the marketplace. However, it's still 
possible to use it, you simply need to clone the extension repo 
with git, run `npm install` and `./node_modules/.bin/vsce 
package`, and then install the resulting VSIX file from VSCode 
(in the extension panel, there is an option to "install from 
VSIX")


Re: DLS deprecation

2020-04-09 Thread Petar via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Thursday, 9 April 2020 at 13:06:42 UTC, Laurent Tréguier wrote:


Thank you, and thank you to everyone else in this thread. I'll 
probably still be watching D's evolution from afar, and I wish 
all the best to this community!


Thanks a lot for your work! What do you think about transferring 
the project to dlang-community? Also, I think it's better to 
leave the VSCode extension in the marketplace, even if you're not 
able to continue working on it, people would still like to 
continue to use it. For example, I recently switched computers 
and I just found out that the extension was unpublished.


Re: DLS deprecation

2020-04-09 Thread Laurent Tréguier via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 8 April 2020 at 12:47:57 UTC, aliak wrote:
Yeah, no doubt, it's always that last 10-20 percent of the way 
you have to go with the non-native languages on those platforms 
that gets you. The downside is the manpower required to 
maintain two platforms.


I've been meaning to give flutter a try though... it seems to 
be catching steam. Only problem is google is "known" for just 
dropping things. But who knows, let's see.


That's one of the reasons I'm going native; native tools 
hopefully aren't going away anytime soon.


And WildFyre looks very interesting! Good luck with your future 
endeavours!


Thank you, and thank you to everyone else in this thread. I'll 
probably still be watching D's evolution from afar, and I wish 
all the best to this community!


Re: DLS deprecation

2020-04-09 Thread bauss via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 8 April 2020 at 12:47:57 UTC, aliak wrote:
On Tuesday, 7 April 2020 at 22:20:40 UTC, Laurent Tréguier 
wrote:

On Tuesday, 7 April 2020 at 20:03:21 UTC, Aliak wrote:
Is what you’re working on shareable information (just out of 
curiosity)?


It's shareable (it's on Github just like DLS); it's a mobile 
app, the Android version is in Kotlin, and the iOS version in 
Swift. I think it's hard to beat native languages for these 
platforms, as they both have tailored APIs and development 
environments (and they are backed by giant companies putting 
lots of resources into them)


Yeah, no doubt, it's always that last 10-20 percent of the way 
you have to go with the non-native languages on those platforms 
that gets you. The downside is the manpower required to 
maintain two platforms.


I've been meaning to give flutter a try though... it seems to 
be catching steam. Only problem is google is "known" for just 
dropping things. But who knows, let's see.


And WildFyre looks very interesting! Good luck with your future 
endeavours!


Xamarin is a choice too.