Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-25 Thread Jacob Shtokolov via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 25 January 2019 at 11:07:48 UTC, Jacob Shtokolov wrote: This is where the precise GC might play a better role, BTW. Misspelling: not precise, conservative GC of course.

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-25 Thread Jacob Shtokolov via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 25 January 2019 at 10:15:15 UTC, Martin Tschierschke wrote: ( On my wish list at the top: An official D database connector. (MySql/MariaDB, Postgres, SQlite, MonetDB..) ) What about trying to find and to fund a maintainer for this purpose? (Next funding goal Mike Parker?) I

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-25 Thread Martin Tschierschke via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 24 January 2019 at 23:02:07 UTC, Ben wrote: On Thursday, 24 January 2019 at 14:44:07 UTC, bachmeier wrote: Of course, one could argue that it must have offered enough to keep some of them interested. They were able to get stuff done when they used it. The build in and good

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-24 Thread Ben via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Thursday, 24 January 2019 at 14:44:07 UTC, bachmeier wrote: Of course, one could argue that it must have offered enough to keep some of them interested. They were able to get stuff done when they used it. The build in and good performing http server hit the sweet spot. Never underestimate

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-24 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 18:42:06 UTC, bauss wrote: Go is garbage and it's only popular because Google is behind it. It has absolutely nothing to do with the language itself. I don't know if I'd agree that it's garbage - it has a lot of appeal to certain types of programmers, though

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 12:26:02 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote: On 24/01/2019 1:20 AM, JN wrote: Well, the truth is, people don't come to a language because of a killer feature. Sometimes it's even the opposite. Java and Dart are familiar to some extent because of lack of killer

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread bauss via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 16:47:04 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 14:37:30 +, Bienlein wrote: This is all true, but you need to keep in mind that Go had no real package manager for a long time. There was the "go get" command which loaded the code from some github

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread Neia Neutuladh via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 14:37:30 +, Bienlein wrote: > This is all true, but you need to keep in mind that Go had no real > package manager for a long time. There was the "go get" command which > loaded the code from some github repo in the state it was at the time > when being loaded. There was no

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 15:04:00 UTC, jmh530 wrote: I would think that dynamic class loading is something that could be bolted on to C++ (and presumably D as well), albeit awkwardly. Dynamic class loading means there is no more link step.

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread jmh530 via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 13:03:18 UTC, Bienlein wrote: Also, the Internet was Java's killer application. No other language had the libraries for accessing the Internet easily. Then there is dynamic class loading. This made things a little bit more unsafe at runtime but in general

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 14:14:06 UTC, bachmeier wrote: I've made this comparison many times before, but I'll do it again... Look at what Rust offers as documentation for Cargo: https://doc.rust-lang.org/cargo/index.html This is what you get with Dub: https://dub.pm/getting_started

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 12:26:02 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote: Also as an FYI, Rust has had significant marketing effort put into it. Consider its home page, it tells a story to get you into developing code fast. D's doesn't. It is much better and I think it might be time to have a

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 12:26:02 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote: Java's killer feature is consistent simplicity. That is how it was originally sold to great success. The ecosystem and tooling came later. Also, the Internet was Java's killer application. No other language had the

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread rikki cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 24/01/2019 1:20 AM, JN wrote: Well, the truth is, people don't come to a language because of a killer feature. Sometimes it's even the opposite. Java and Dart are familiar to some extent because of lack of killer features. Actually that isn't quite true. Java's killer feature is

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread JN via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 11:42:24 UTC, Bienlein wrote: On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 09:58:05 UTC, Sebastiaan Koppe wrote: On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 09:14:18 UTC, Bienlein wrote: On Friday, 18 January 2019 at 08:55:23 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: D really needs its killer use case

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread Sebastiaan Koppe via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 23 January 2019 at 09:14:18 UTC, Bienlein wrote: On Friday, 18 January 2019 at 08:55:23 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: D really needs its killer use case if it is to move away from that list. D is a lot like Scala on the JVM: Both language have myriads of language features and bells

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread Atila Neves via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 18 January 2019 at 10:23:03 UTC, JN wrote: On Friday, 18 January 2019 at 08:55:23 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Apparently Google is ramping up the use of Rust in Fuchsia and hiring quite a few devs. Azure IoT Edge uses a mix of C# and Rust. Rust has lately got a lot of attention from

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-23 Thread Bienlein via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 18 January 2019 at 08:55:23 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: D really needs its killer use case if it is to move away from that list. D is a lot like Scala on the JVM: Both language have myriads of language features and bells and whistles, but there is no killer feature in the language

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-22 Thread germandiago via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 18 January 2019 at 08:55:23 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: D really needs its killer use case if it is to move away from that list. For me those would be superior metaprogramming and ability to interface with C++, Objective-C and C in superior ways. But some project must show those strong

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-18 Thread JN via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 18 January 2019 at 08:55:23 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote: Apparently Google is ramping up the use of Rust in Fuchsia and hiring quite a few devs. Azure IoT Edge uses a mix of C# and Rust. Rust has lately got a lot of attention from game developers. Several game studios announced they

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-18 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 18 January 2019 at 03:41:38 UTC, Brian wrote: On Monday, 14 January 2019 at 20:21:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Of possible interest: https://www.technotification.com/2019/01/most-underrated-programming-languages.html Because no software can use it. examples: 1. Docker use

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-17 Thread Brian via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Monday, 14 January 2019 at 20:21:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Of possible interest: https://www.technotification.com/2019/01/most-underrated-programming-languages.html Because no software can use it. examples: 1. Docker use golang. 2. Middleware system use java. 3. Shell use python.

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-17 Thread Meta via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Friday, 18 January 2019 at 01:15:06 UTC, Bill Baxter wrote: Gotta laugh at Ruby being listed as "Underrated", though. --bb On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:25 PM Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: Of possible interest:

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-17 Thread Bill Baxter via Digitalmars-d-announce
Gotta laugh at Ruby being listed as "Underrated", though. --bb On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 12:25 PM Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > Of possible interest: > > > https://www.technotification.com/2019/01/most-underrated-programming-languages.html >

Re: Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-17 Thread Carl Sturtivant via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Monday, 14 January 2019 at 20:21:25 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Of possible interest: https://www.technotification.com/2019/01/most-underrated-programming-languages.html What's interesting here is the language nim, which perhaps has some lessons for D. https://nim-lang.org/

Top Five World’s Most Underrated Programming Languages

2019-01-14 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce
Of possible interest: https://www.technotification.com/2019/01/most-underrated-programming-languages.html