Re: D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.
On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 19:51:22 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote: I know we don't place much value in TIOBE and it's brethren. However, I thought that this was a milestone worthy of a note anyways. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html I don't want to take your joy, but tiobe has its mood swings: Groovy was within the top 20 last year, see http://glaforge.appspot.com/article/groovy-enters-top-20-of-the-tiobe-language-index Now it is somewhere below the top 40. I think it was below the top 50 at the beginning of the year. Nevertheless, it is certainly good news :-).
Re: D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.
On Sunday, 27 April 2014 at 05:21:29 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: On Saturday, 26 April 2014 at 23:13:49 UTC, Dicebot wrote: Don't forget that it does not only consider new code but overall picture. And amount of legacy code in weird languages is still huge. It does not consider code, it uses the hitcounters from search engines for this query: +" programming" Huh, wasn't it also scanning available public repos i.e. on GitHub? Or am I conflating with some other index?
Re: D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.
On Saturday, 26 April 2014 at 23:13:49 UTC, Dicebot wrote: Don't forget that it does not only consider new code but overall picture. And amount of legacy code in weird languages is still huge. It does not consider code, it uses the hitcounters from search engines for this query: +" programming"
Re: D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.
On Saturday, 26 April 2014 at 23:10:22 UTC, Ben Boeckel via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: Wow, TIOBE looks even more useless than the last time looked at it (years ago). Is TSQL really "more popular" than Perl? I wonder how much "oh dear, I need help with this" is conflating these ratings. Yep, but that is also what they measure.
Re: D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.
On Saturday, 26 April 2014 at 23:10:22 UTC, Ben Boeckel via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: Wow, TIOBE looks even more useless than the last time looked at it (years ago). Is TSQL really "more popular" than Perl? I wonder how much "oh dear, I need help with this" is conflating these ratings. I mean, PostScript is #25 and while it *is* Turing complete, I don't think too many (well-intentioned) projects are targeting printers as their platform (at least via the paper tray). Almost certainly not more than all of Scala, Go, and Haskell. --Ben Don't forget that it does not only consider new code but overall picture. And amount of legacy code in weird languages is still huge.
Re: D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 06:54:55 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 19:51:22 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote: > >http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html > > It's interesting that C++ has been declining for the last decade and > especially the last year, with C and Objective-C taking its place at > the top for compiled languages. Mobile has driven Objective-C use > and will drive the next big language, a good opportunity for D given > its efficiency and relative ease of use. Wow, TIOBE looks even more useless than the last time looked at it (years ago). Is TSQL really "more popular" than Perl? I wonder how much "oh dear, I need help with this" is conflating these ratings. I mean, PostScript is #25 and while it *is* Turing complete, I don't think too many (well-intentioned) projects are targeting printers as their platform (at least via the paper tray). Almost certainly not more than all of Scala, Go, and Haskell. --Ben
Re: D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.
On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 19:51:22 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote: I know we don't place much value in TIOBE and it's brethren. However, I thought that this was a milestone worthy of a note anyways. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html It's interesting that C++ has been declining for the last decade and especially the last year, with C and Objective-C taking its place at the top for compiled languages. Mobile has driven Objective-C use and will drive the next big language, a good opportunity for D given its efficiency and relative ease of use.
Re: D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.
On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 20:22:32 UTC, Théo Bueno wrote: I just don't understand how they make their calculations. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/tpci_definition.htm Apparently they use: +"D programming" -"3-D programming" -"DTrace" ? They claim 90% confidence, but I think that is misleading.
Re: D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.
On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 19:51:22 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote: I know we don't place much value in TIOBE What do you mean, we're in the top 20! Now's the time to put value in TIOBE :)
Re: D Breaks on to the TIOBE Top 20 List.
On Friday, 25 April 2014 at 19:51:22 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote: I know we don't place much value in TIOBE and it's brethren. However, I thought that this was a milestone worthy of a note anyways. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html Well, in fact last month D was 17th on Tiobe, and was in since November or December I think ... and now D is 20th but for a weird reason it is still ranked as gaining popularity. And let's talk about numbers : March 0.744% April 0.708% Change : +0.39 I just don't understand how they make their calculations.
