Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
done. and gave him headsup too. is your email no spam o n e at yourfullname.com ? if not what should the first part be? or you can email me at myfirstn...@myfirstname.com On Friday, 13 February 2015 at 07:31:52 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: On Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 22:28:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 2/4/2015 1:17 PM, Laeeth Isharc wrote: One interesting anecdote: somebody in a financial services company gave an account of giving D a try as a way to prototype something quickly, intending to rewrite it later in a more conventional language. The prototype went straight into production, and they are happy with it. The C interop was important for them to have made this possible. It was interesting, because it is a serious company where people don't by any means have a hacker mentality, and it was one more point at variance with the "I am a java programmer but do all my personal projects in D" narrative, and also because this particular kind of company is exactly the sort of second wave early adopter one wants to have. (I hope I represented this accurately, and tried to make this as vague as possible whilst still keeping it useful since people might not want the details of what they do being public). I'd like to invite this fellow to propose a case study presentation at Dconf 2015. Can someone please forward this to him, or put him in contact with myself or Andrei? I will dig his card out unless Kingsley gets there first. (Let me know if so). Laeeth
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 22:28:03 UTC, Walter Bright wrote: On 2/4/2015 1:17 PM, Laeeth Isharc wrote: One interesting anecdote: somebody in a financial services company gave an account of giving D a try as a way to prototype something quickly, intending to rewrite it later in a more conventional language. The prototype went straight into production, and they are happy with it. The C interop was important for them to have made this possible. It was interesting, because it is a serious company where people don't by any means have a hacker mentality, and it was one more point at variance with the "I am a java programmer but do all my personal projects in D" narrative, and also because this particular kind of company is exactly the sort of second wave early adopter one wants to have. (I hope I represented this accurately, and tried to make this as vague as possible whilst still keeping it useful since people might not want the details of what they do being public). I'd like to invite this fellow to propose a case study presentation at Dconf 2015. Can someone please forward this to him, or put him in contact with myself or Andrei? I will dig his card out unless Kingsley gets there first. (Let me know if so). Laeeth
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On 2/4/2015 1:17 PM, Laeeth Isharc wrote: One interesting anecdote: somebody in a financial services company gave an account of giving D a try as a way to prototype something quickly, intending to rewrite it later in a more conventional language. The prototype went straight into production, and they are happy with it. The C interop was important for them to have made this possible. It was interesting, because it is a serious company where people don't by any means have a hacker mentality, and it was one more point at variance with the "I am a java programmer but do all my personal projects in D" narrative, and also because this particular kind of company is exactly the sort of second wave early adopter one wants to have. (I hope I represented this accurately, and tried to make this as vague as possible whilst still keeping it useful since people might not want the details of what they do being public). I'd like to invite this fellow to propose a case study presentation at Dconf 2015. Can someone please forward this to him, or put him in contact with myself or Andrei?
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On Thursday, 5 February 2015 at 20:40:52 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote: On Thursday, 5 February 2015 at 12:06:31 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 21:35 +, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: […] That pretty much sums up my understanding of it too. I recollect the "banter" including (paraphrased): "if the prototype works, just put it into production, it's standard practice." Shhh... We have investors to keep happy. half-jest
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On Thursday, 5 February 2015 at 12:06:31 UTC, Russel Winder wrote: On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 21:35 +, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: […] That pretty much sums up my understanding of it too. I recollect the "banter" including (paraphrased): "if the prototype works, just put it into production, it's standard practice." Shhh... We have investors to keep happy.
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 21:35 +, Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > […] > > That pretty much sums up my understanding of it too. I recollect the "banter" including (paraphrased): "if the prototype works, just put it into production, it's standard practice." -- Russel. = Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: rus...@winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On 4 February 2015 at 21:17, Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > One interesting anecdote: somebody in a financial services company gave an > account of giving D a try as a way to prototype something quickly, intending > to rewrite it later in a more conventional language. The prototype went > straight into production, and they are happy with it. The C interop was > important for them to have made this possible. > > It was interesting, because it is a serious company where people don't by > any means have a hacker mentality, and it was one more point at variance > with the "I am a java programmer but do all my personal projects in D" > narrative, and also because this particular kind of company is exactly the > sort of second wave early adopter one wants to have. > > (I hope I represented this accurately, and tried to make this as vague as > possible whilst still keeping it useful since people might not want the > details of what they do being public). That pretty much sums up my understanding of it too.
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
One interesting anecdote: somebody in a financial services company gave an account of giving D a try as a way to prototype something quickly, intending to rewrite it later in a more conventional language. The prototype went straight into production, and they are happy with it. The C interop was important for them to have made this possible. It was interesting, because it is a serious company where people don't by any means have a hacker mentality, and it was one more point at variance with the "I am a java programmer but do all my personal projects in D" narrative, and also because this particular kind of company is exactly the sort of second wave early adopter one wants to have. (I hope I represented this accurately, and tried to make this as vague as possible whilst still keeping it useful since people might not want the details of what they do being public).
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
Thank you, Kingsley, for a very well organized and thought-through event. I was impressed by the calibre of people that attended, and look forward to attending future meetups.
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
John Colvin via Digitalmars-d-announce píše v St 04. 02. 2015 v 15:08 +: > On Wednesday, 4 February 2015 at 15:02:09 UTC, Kingsley wrote: > > usually it applies to a collection e.g. List > > > > in Scala there is one - that takes a function that returns a > > boolean. e.g. > > > > List(1,2,3).forall(x => x < 3) > > If I understand what you want correctly, std.algorithm.all Yep, ignore my previous answer
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
John Colvin via Digitalmars-d-announce píše v St 04. 02. 2015 v 15:08 +: > On Wednesday, 4 February 2015 at 15:02:09 UTC, Kingsley wrote: > > usually it applies to a collection e.g. List > > > > in Scala there is one - that takes a function that returns a > > boolean. e.g. > > > > List(1,2,3).forall(x => x < 3) > > If I understand what you want correctly, std.algorithm.all I am not sure maybe he wants std.algorithm.filter
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On Wednesday, 4 February 2015 at 15:02:09 UTC, Kingsley wrote: usually it applies to a collection e.g. List in Scala there is one - that takes a function that returns a boolean. e.g. List(1,2,3).forall(x => x < 3) If I understand what you want correctly, std.algorithm.all
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
usually it applies to a collection e.g. List in Scala there is one - that takes a function that returns a boolean. e.g. List(1,2,3).forall(x => x < 3) which is equivalent to a foldLeft ( I think) On Wednesday, 4 February 2015 at 14:52:32 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: On 2/4/15, Kingsley via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: A couple of issues came out of the challenge regarding familiarity with syntax and then spending time hunting down the docs - is there a forall in D? What would forall do?
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On 2/4/15, Kingsley via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > A couple of issues came out of the challenge regarding > familiarity with syntax and then spending time hunting down the > docs - is there a forall in D? What would forall do?
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On 4 February 2015 at 12:58, Kingsley via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > Also Iain B was there (who maintains the GDC compiler) and he mentioned that > he was more from a devops background than a developer background and found > it interesting to see how people were using the compiler. > > Thanks all who came from further away for making it :) > Pics or it didn't happen! http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/photos/25894172/433998206/
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
Also Iain B was there (who maintains the GDC compiler) and he mentioned that he was more from a devops background than a developer background and found it interesting to see how people were using the compiler. Thanks all who came from further away for making it :) On Wednesday, 4 February 2015 at 12:53:45 UTC, Kingsley wrote: Thanks to everyone who attended it was a great evening of D fun :) As part of the evening we did a secret santa code challenge - here are some of the results: http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/messages/boards/thread/48694585 We had about 13 people from different backgrounds - many from C/C++ as well as Java, F# and dynamic languages such as Python. Many of the guys had a financial / banking background or an academic background - for example we had some guys working on market data, another guy who ran a hedge fun as well as people from scientific / research and university backgrounds. We touched on IDE's and editors for D - I demo'd my intellij plugin. Bruno was also there (he maintains the eclipse D plugin DDT) and he had some interesting things to say about where he thought the future of IDE's is going especially in terms of code completion. In my intellij plugin I actually re-use the guts of the DDT parser/lexer and the general opinion seemed to be that have a single set of tools that could be re-used in multiple IDE projects was a good way forward. I already implemented Brian's DCD and DScanner tools in my plugin and Bruno was looking to go that way also rather than re-writing the wheel each time. Brian certainly has some great tools in D for this kind of thing. (Hackerpilot - DCD/libdparse/DScanner etc) We also had some discussion about the popularity of D - and many felt that D was a great language especially coming from C/C++ but that the whole community was perhaps a little fragmented and finding information on the Dlang site was also a bit disjointed and that in order for a language to gain popularity it needed the appropriate community support and information - the recent language Rust was mentioned as having great documentation/support for new people and is arguably doing a better job at that aspect than D especially since its such a new language compared to D. There was also a bit of discussion around the dub package manager with Russel W feeling strongly that dub was more like a java maven and had many issues for what he wanted to do. I think he has since posted something on the D forum about his dub feelings. We got onto dub from my intellij plugin which uses dub by default. We got together in pairs with 1 more experienced D person and 1 newbie / less experienced D persons and paired on the secret santa challenge. We only had about 45 mins for this one and then some discussion on how we chose to implement things. A couple of issues came out of the challenge regarding familiarity with syntax and then spending time hunting down the docs - is there a forall in D? Also one of the guys ended up with an out of data d compiler and spend a lot of time trying to get the right version instead of the one that came with the IDE he downloaded. The slides for the evening are here: http://slides.com/kingsleyhendrickse/london-d-programmers Our kind host Skills Matter are organising a Functional Programming conference in the summer and they have suggested we add a D talk to it that focuses on the functional aspects of D. I'll be arranging meetups every 6 weeks or so. Hope to see you all at the next one :) On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 17:33:48 UTC, Kingsley wrote: Hi Just a reminder that the first London D Programmers meet up is happening on Tuesday February 3rd at Skills Matter. Looking forward to seeing you there :) http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ --Kingsley On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 18:26:52 UTC, Kingsley wrote: Hi, I've created this meetup group for any London based D enthusiasts to meet up and get excited about D. I'll also demo my intellij plugin for D at the first meetup which I've scheduled for February. Although I might be a bit lonely if I'm the only person there! lol. http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ Please join me if you are in the area and feel like getting some D.
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
Thanks to everyone who attended it was a great evening of D fun :) As part of the evening we did a secret santa code challenge - here are some of the results: http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/messages/boards/thread/48694585 We had about 13 people from different backgrounds - many from C/C++ as well as Java, F# and dynamic languages such as Python. Many of the guys had a financial / banking background or an academic background - for example we had some guys working on market data, another guy who ran a hedge fun as well as people from scientific / research and university backgrounds. We touched on IDE's and editors for D - I demo'd my intellij plugin. Bruno was also there (he maintains the eclipse D plugin DDT) and he had some interesting things to say about where he thought the future of IDE's is going especially in terms of code completion. In my intellij plugin I actually re-use the guts of the DDT parser/lexer and the general opinion seemed to be that have a single set of tools that could be re-used in multiple IDE projects was a good way forward. I already implemented Brian's DCD and DScanner tools in my plugin and Bruno was looking to go that way also rather than re-writing the wheel each time. Brian certainly has some great tools in D for this kind of thing. (Hackerpilot - DCD/libdparse/DScanner etc) We also had some discussion about the popularity of D - and many felt that D was a great language especially coming from C/C++ but that the whole community was perhaps a little fragmented and finding information on the Dlang site was also a bit disjointed and that in order for a language to gain popularity it needed the appropriate community support and information - the recent language Rust was mentioned as having great documentation/support for new people and is arguably doing a better job at that aspect than D especially since its such a new language compared to D. There was also a bit of discussion around the dub package manager with Russel W feeling strongly that dub was more like a java maven and had many issues for what he wanted to do. I think he has since posted something on the D forum about his dub feelings. We got onto dub from my intellij plugin which uses dub by default. We got together in pairs with 1 more experienced D person and 1 newbie / less experienced D persons and paired on the secret santa challenge. We only had about 45 mins for this one and then some discussion on how we chose to implement things. A couple of issues came out of the challenge regarding familiarity with syntax and then spending time hunting down the docs - is there a forall in D? Also one of the guys ended up with an out of data d compiler and spend a lot of time trying to get the right version instead of the one that came with the IDE he downloaded. The slides for the evening are here: http://slides.com/kingsleyhendrickse/london-d-programmers Our kind host Skills Matter are organising a Functional Programming conference in the summer and they have suggested we add a D talk to it that focuses on the functional aspects of D. I'll be arranging meetups every 6 weeks or so. Hope to see you all at the next one :) On Sunday, 1 February 2015 at 17:33:48 UTC, Kingsley wrote: Hi Just a reminder that the first London D Programmers meet up is happening on Tuesday February 3rd at Skills Matter. Looking forward to seeing you there :) http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ --Kingsley On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 18:26:52 UTC, Kingsley wrote: Hi, I've created this meetup group for any London based D enthusiasts to meet up and get excited about D. I'll also demo my intellij plugin for D at the first meetup which I've scheduled for February. Although I might be a bit lonely if I'm the only person there! lol. http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ Please join me if you are in the area and feel like getting some D.
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
Hi Just a reminder that the first London D Programmers meet up is happening on Tuesday February 3rd at Skills Matter. Looking forward to seeing you there :) http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ --Kingsley On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 18:26:52 UTC, Kingsley wrote: Hi, I've created this meetup group for any London based D enthusiasts to meet up and get excited about D. I'll also demo my intellij plugin for D at the first meetup which I've scheduled for February. Although I might be a bit lonely if I'm the only person there! lol. http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ Please join me if you are in the area and feel like getting some D.
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On 1/25/15 1:22 AM, Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 22:12 +, Kingsley via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: We now have a venue for the London D meetup. Skills Matter have kindly offered us their support. The first meetup will be Tuesday 3rd February - see details here: http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ Please come along if you can :) Excellently done sir. You have succeeding in creating a London meetup where I have singularly failed. I shall make all endeavours to be there. A day of Go followed by an early evening of D. There is a pub a few doors down from Skills Matter that serves good food for a late supper. (I'll check with Oana what their "last food order" time is.) Awesome. Would be great if a volunteer could do a short write-up afterwards. -- Andrei
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 22:12 +, Kingsley via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > We now have a venue for the London D meetup. Skills Matter have > kindly offered us their support. > > The first meetup will be Tuesday 3rd February - see details here: > http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ > > Please come along if you can :) Excellently done sir. You have succeeding in creating a London meetup where I have singularly failed. I shall make all endeavours to be there. A day of Go followed by an early evening of D. There is a pub a few doors down from Skills Matter that serves good food for a late supper. (I'll check with Oana what their "last food order" time is.) -- Russel. = Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: rus...@winder.org.uk London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
Thanks for organising this, I'm looking forward to it. On Thursday, 22 January 2015 at 22:12:43 UTC, Kingsley wrote: We now have a venue for the London D meetup. Skills Matter have kindly offered us their support. The first meetup will be Tuesday 3rd February - see details here: http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ Please come along if you can :) --Kingsley On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 18:26:52 UTC, Kingsley wrote: Hi, I've created this meetup group for any London based D enthusiasts to meet up and get excited about D. I'll also demo my intellij plugin for D at the first meetup which I've scheduled for February. Although I might be a bit lonely if I'm the only person there! lol. http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ Please join me if you are in the area and feel like getting some D.
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
We now have a venue for the London D meetup. Skills Matter have kindly offered us their support. The first meetup will be Tuesday 3rd February - see details here: http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ Please come along if you can :) --Kingsley On Tuesday, 23 December 2014 at 18:26:52 UTC, Kingsley wrote: Hi, I've created this meetup group for any London based D enthusiasts to meet up and get excited about D. I'll also demo my intellij plugin for D at the first meetup which I've scheduled for February. Although I might be a bit lonely if I'm the only person there! lol. http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ Please join me if you are in the area and feel like getting some D.
Re: London D Programmers MeetUp
On 23 December 2014 at 18:26, Kingsley via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > Hi, > > I've created this meetup group for any London based D enthusiasts to meet up > and get excited about D. > > I'll also demo my intellij plugin for D at the first meetup which I've > scheduled for February. Although I might be a bit lonely if I'm the only > person there! lol. > > http://www.meetup.com/London-D-Programmers/ > > Please join me if you are in the area and feel like getting some D. Awesome, I'll let people aware of this. Iain.