Re: Setting import paths - project (dub) and also rdmd or dmd
Thank you Steven and Christian. I had a look at both those methods, creating a local dmd.conf file almost worked but it wasn't a simple modification, I was hoping it would be as simple as just adding the extra path but it seems that I needed to add the whole path from the existing dmd.conf otherwise the build broke due to not being able to find stuff, I added extra stuff but it was a clumsy solution... Local dub packages I'm not not quite ready to do properly on this part of the learning curve and it is something I looked at and I think that I may end up using this. In the end I cheated. I simply added symlinks in my source directory to the *.d files I wanted to import and that solved the problem. It's probably(certainly ?) not the best way to do it but it works and as I become better with D I'm pretty sure I'll change it to something more sensible. Regards, D
Re: Poste some interesting vibe.d webpages
On Wednesday, 14 September 2022 at 19:34:01 UTC, Alain De Vos wrote: Although the framework is good. There is no community. Or general acceptance. Which is a pitty. Currently I ask myself how to do "sessions" with vibe.d. Hi Alain, I'm new to D and looking at vibe as well but I'm not as far down the path as settling on it as the final solution. Have you looked at alternatives to vibe such as the hunt framework ? https://code.dlang.org/packages/hunt-framework It does seem better documented and fuller featured than vibe but that could be due to me not having an in-depth knowledge of either of them :-) Regards, D
Setting import paths - project (dub) and also rdmd or dmd
Hi, New to D (and enjoying the learning..) I've probably missed something obvious but I'm slightly confused with the best way to achieve a simple build. I like to keep my reusable modules in a directory outside of the project directory so I can use them on another project for example. I do :- import externalmodulename; rdmd app.d and get a fail. No problems, I can run rdmd thus :- rdmd -I../EXTERNALMODULES app.d and it all compiles nicely. Same goes for dmd just use dmd -I and it compiles the code clean. I'd normally just have a CPPFLAGS=... line in a classic Makefile to do this for me but can't see a native D way of doing it. I looked at dub and that that :- dub add-path ../EXTERNALMODULES would do the trick but it doesn't make a difference (the path is added to the relevant json file in ~/.dub), I also tried add-local but no difference. I was expecting it to add something to dub.sdl but that hasn't changed since I created the project. TLDR: How do I automatically specify the -I to the compilers so I don't need to specify it manually each time ? Regards, D
Re: Is it possible to suppress standard lib and dlang symbols in dylib (macos)
On Wednesday, 17 March 2021 at 15:16:36 UTC, Jacob Carlborg wrote: On Wednesday, 17 March 2021 at 13:52:48 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: On Sunday, 14 March 2021 at 11:33:00 UTC, David wrote: Anyone else done this? Pointers welcome. Sorry for delay. Just add "dflags-osx-ldc": ["-static"], macOS doesn't support static linking. -- /Jacob Carlborg Ah that's really useful to know, thanks - this is my first bit of macOS dev (other than high level stuff like R, Python, kdb etc) and I'm having to learn more about internals than I really care to - ho hum.
Re: How do I load dylib (i.e. phobos and druntime for ldc) in Macos sandboxed app?
On Sunday, 14 March 2021 at 11:40:25 UTC, David wrote: This is more a macos thing than a D thing but still relevant. In another thread I was asking about cleaning up a D dylib for using in Excel. Ldc was suggested though first I have to figure out how to make the phobos and druntime loadable from within the sandbox. (I've posted in a new topic as it was drift from the original question - hope that helps anyone else searching for the same answers). I'm not expecting many relies - unless someone has happened to have solved it. Will post links once I've figured a solution. Solved using install_name_tool and https://medium.com/@donblas/fun-with-rpath-otool-and-install-name-tool-e3e41ae86172
How do I load dylib (i.e. phobos and druntime for ldc) in Macos sandboxed app?
This is more a macos thing than a D thing but still relevant. In another thread I was asking about cleaning up a D dylib for using in Excel. Ldc was suggested though first I have to figure out how to make the phobos and druntime loadable from within the sandbox. (I've posted in a new topic as it was drift from the original question - hope that helps anyone else searching for the same answers). I'm not expecting many relies - unless someone has happened to have solved it. Will post links once I've figured a solution.
Re: Is it possible to suppress standard lib and dlang symbols in dylib (macos)
On Sunday, 14 March 2021 at 01:38:23 UTC, David Skluzacek wrote: On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 22:10:04 UTC, David wrote: I wasn't aware that object files could be manipulated like the strip manual page - thx for the heads up. With the caveats that the linked post is almost 14 years old, I can't try this command myself, and the ldc solution is probably preferable if you can get it to work - if you want to compile with dmd and use the strip command, this might help you (the OP answered his own question at the bottom): https://forum.juce.com/t/how-to-build-dylib-exporting-only-wanted-symbols/2180 He suggests doing: strip -u -r -s FILE_CONTAINING_EXPORTS_LIST MY_DYLIB.dylib It looks straight forward that way - thx
Re: Is it possible to suppress standard lib and dlang symbols in dylib (macos)
On Sunday, 14 March 2021 at 00:00:59 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 23:41:28 UTC, David wrote: So Excel complains that it can't load my library - presumably because libphobos2 and libdruntime are not in the sandbox.ly You *might* be able to compile with --link-defaultlib-shared=false to use the static phobos+druntime... but with shared libs it prefers shared and might not allow this. Probably worth a try. Otherwise I'd try to just add the phobos so to your sandbox somehow. or the rpath set to current directory and putting them in your correct directory may also work. I don't know how that works on Mac but on Linux it is passing... `-L-rpath -L.` or something like that when compiling... I can't find my notes on this but something like that. I think figuring out how to add phobos to the sandbox is probably the best option as I'm sure it won't be the last dylib I need to load. Anyone else done this? Pointers welcome.
Re: Is it possible to suppress standard lib and dlang symbols in dylib (macos)
On Friday, 12 March 2021 at 00:12:37 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: Create a exports.lst file with: _addDD_D as the only line there. Build with: "lflags-osx-ldc": [ "-exported_symbols_list", "exports.lst", "-dead_strip" ], Thx that's really helpful. I've hit a snag with LDC. After serveral hours of searching and reading I think it's coming down to sandboxing and needing to deploy libraries in a place that excel can find them. The library DMD creates just references /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib and Excel can load my dylib. LDC on the other hand additionally references: @rpath/libphobos2-ldc-shared.95.dylib (compatibility version 95.0.0, current version 2.0.95) @rpath/libdruntime-ldc-shared.95.dylib (compatibility version 95.0.0, current version 2.0.95) So Excel complains that it can't load my library - presumably because libphobos2 and libdruntime are not in the sandbox.ly Can anyone (either tell me how to fix this) or give me pointers pls? (I'm current reading up on DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH (shouldn't use that), sandboxing on Mac, and rpaths) I suppose a solution that allows the additional libraries to be put in a subdirectory of my library would be idea as then I can deploy that within the sandbox. Thx for the help
Re: Is it possible to suppress standard lib and dlang symbols in dylib (macos)
On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 18:35:37 UTC, Imperatorn wrote: On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 17:00:06 UTC, David wrote: On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 14:49:32 UTC, Imperatorn wrote: On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 10:29:55 UTC, David wrote: On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 08:40:58 UTC, Imperatorn wrote: [...] [...] Of course - but unless I've missed something I don't believe it works on macos. Hmm, I'm not sure. Have you tried? Nope the documentation implies it only works on windows so I've ruled it out. But the thing I'm trying to solve is suppression of symbols in the library. I see, there might be something similar to .def? https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/build/reference/module-definition-dot-def-files?redirectedfrom=MSDN&view=msvc-160 Or I guess you could strip it? https://www.linux.org/docs/man1/strip.html But I guess you already thought of that and want to not even generate them in the first place? I was wondering if there was something similar to def - my next attempt will be a combination of ldc and export. I wasn't aware that object files could be manipulated like the strip manual page - thx for the heads up.
Re: Is it possible to suppress standard lib and dlang symbols in dylib (macos)
On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 14:49:32 UTC, Imperatorn wrote: On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 10:29:55 UTC, David wrote: On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 08:40:58 UTC, Imperatorn wrote: On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 08:34:48 UTC, David wrote: I thought it would be fun to convert some old C++/C quant utils to D. I'm starting with a simple library that I call from vba in Excel on macos: [...] *trigger warning* "vba in Excel on macos" ⚠️ Btw, have you looked at excel-d? https://code.dlang.org/packages/excel-d Btw, have you looked at excel-d? Of course - but unless I've missed something I don't believe it works on macos. Hmm, I'm not sure. Have you tried? Nope the documentation implies it only works on windows so I've ruled it out. But the thing I'm trying to solve is suppression of symbols in the library.
Re: Is it possible to suppress standard lib and dlang symbols in dylib (macos)
On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 14:35:45 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote: Pipe it to grep should work | grep -v "__D2" Thanks - though I'm trying to suppress the symbols being generated in the library. A colleague says it can be done in ldc but not dmd. I'll think I'll try that out.
Re: Is it possible to suppress standard lib and dlang symbols in dylib (macos)
On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 08:40:58 UTC, Imperatorn wrote: On Thursday, 11 March 2021 at 08:34:48 UTC, David wrote: I thought it would be fun to convert some old C++/C quant utils to D. I'm starting with a simple library that I call from vba in Excel on macos: [...] *trigger warning* "vba in Excel on macos" ⚠️ Btw, have you looked at excel-d? https://code.dlang.org/packages/excel-d Btw, have you looked at excel-d? Of course - but unless I've missed something I don't believe it works on macos.
Is it possible to suppress standard lib and dlang symbols in dylib (macos)
I thought it would be fun to convert some old C++/C quant utils
to D. I'm starting with a simple library that I call from vba in
Excel on macos:
module xlutils;
import core.stdc.string : strlen, strcpy;
//import std.conv : to;
//import std.string : toStringz;
import core.stdc.stdlib : malloc, free;
extern (C) double addDD_D(double a, double b) {return a + b;}
...
which results in:
nm -gU libxlutils.dylib
3f10 S __D7xlutils12__ModuleInfoZ
3e44 T _addDD_D
3ebc T _addrC
3e84 T _freeP
3e9c T _strcpyCC
3e6c T _strlenC_L
If I import `to` and `toStringz` I get more symbols than will fit
in my shell output. E.g.
000318bc T
__D2rt5minfo11ModuleGroup9sortCtorsMFAyaZ8findDepsMFmPmZ9__lambda5MFNbNiQBjZv
00031534 T
__D2rt5minfo11ModuleGroup9sortCtorsMFAyaZ8findDepsMFmPmZb
00030dcc T __D2rt5minfo11ModuleGroup9sortCtorsMFAyaZv
00031db4 T __D2rt5minfo11ModuleGroup9sortCtorsMFZv
00048ef0 S __D2rt5minfo12__ModuleInfoZ
000327e4 T
__D2rt5minfo16rt_moduleTlsCtorUZ14__foreachbody1MFKSQBx19sections_osx_x86_6412SectionGroupZi
...
000183ac T _thread_resumeAll
00018660 T _thread_scanAll
00018480 T _thread_scanAllType
00019658 T _thread_suspendAll
Is there a way of not exposing the symbols that aren't mine? - I
only need a simple C interface.
Thx
David
Re: Memory allocation
On Wednesday, 24 February 2021 at 06:14:58 UTC, Imperatorn wrote: On Tuesday, 23 February 2021 at 19:44:39 UTC, David wrote: Not sure if `learn` is the right topic or not to post this.. I've been going through Bob Nystrom's "Crafting Interpreters" for a bit of fun and over the weekend put together a toy allocator in D - free and gc not yet done. It's single threaded and unsurprisingly faster than malloc for small objects up to 512 bytes, and about the same for larger objects (simulated with a linear distribution of size requests). [...] Have you looked at the "experimental" allocator(s) in D? std.experimental.allocator Hi, yes, good question, yes I did - my first cut using the mmap_allocator was slower - I presume because I should really allocate a good chunk of virtual memory and manage the pages myself. So some questions I'm asking myself - What people's heuristics for switching methods say from, some sort of pool to another approach - e.g. linked list of pages? At the page level does a bitmap allocator make more sense? Knuth (it seems) was under the impression that a third of memory is wasted by fragmentation, aka the 50% rule - that doesn't seem likely, does anyone measure these things? How does one go about choosing a set of pool sizes? Given that virtual pages are not necessarily physically contiguous are some of the considerations that inspired the buddy system no longer relevant. I should also say I'm aiming for a single thread longish running process (one + working days) that I anticipate could use a good chunk say 100GB or so on occasion but I'd like to be more efficient than java in terms of memory reuse - past experience was I had to reboot my workstation a few times a day as it did something really horrible (I don't know what). Any there any GC frameworks that someone has shared in D?
Memory allocation
Not sure if `learn` is the right topic or not to post this.. I've been going through Bob Nystrom's "Crafting Interpreters" for a bit of fun and over the weekend put together a toy allocator in D - free and gc not yet done. It's single threaded and unsurprisingly faster than malloc for small objects up to 512 bytes, and about the same for larger objects (simulated with a linear distribution of size requests). But I'd like to be able to benchmark it to see how I'm doing. A colleague suggested I ask here for resources and pointers - I was trying to find stats on malloc performance (internal and external fragmentation, long running reuse, distributions of size requests for testing and comparison, how to reason about trade-offs of cache missing, branch misprediction, meta data, etc). So academic papers, books, blogs, experiences are all welcome, especially with regard to optimising for immutability / COW - would be welcome or even just some good ol' conversation.
Re: do mir modules run in parallell
On Sunday, 6 October 2019 at 05:32:34 UTC, 9il wrote: mir-blas, mir-lapack, and lubeck parallelism depend on system BLAS/LAPACK library (OpenBLAS, Intel MKL, or Accelerate Framework for macos). mir-optim by default single thread but can use TaskPool from D standard library as well as user-defined thread pools. mir-random was created for multithread programs, check the documentation for a particular engine. The general idea is that each thread has its own engine. Other libraries are single thread but can be used in multithread programs with Phobos threads or other thread libraries. Best, Ilya thanks! I will try it out accordingly. Bests, David
Re: do mir modules run in parallell
On Saturday, 5 October 2019 at 04:38:34 UTC, 9il wrote: On Friday, 4 October 2019 at 20:32:59 UTC, David wrote: Hi I am wondering if MIR modules run in parallel by default or if I can enforce it by a compiler flag? Thanks David Hey David, Do you mean unittests run in parallel or mir algorithms themselves run in parallel? Ilya Hi Ilya Thanks for coming back on this and sorry for not being precise. I am wondering about the Mir algorithms. David
do mir modules run in parallell
Hi I am wondering if MIR modules run in parallel by default or if I can enforce it by a compiler flag? Thanks David
Re: mir.ndslice: assign a vector to a matrix row
On Friday, 28 December 2018 at 08:11:37 UTC, 9il wrote: On Friday, 28 December 2018 at 08:09:09 UTC, 9il wrote: On Thursday, 27 December 2018 at 21:17:48 UTC, David wrote: On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 18:59:25 UTC, 9il wrote: [...] great many thanks!! Is there any logic why getting a row works by auto row = matrix[0]; but assigning to a row works (only) by the two variant you posted? This case gets a slice of a row, it does not copy the data. So row[i] is matrix[0, i], the same number in the RAM. auto row = matrix[0]; This case gets a slice of a row, it does not copy the data. If you wish to copy data you need to use a slice on the right side: EDIT: a slice on the LEFT side Many thanks for this background!!
Re: mir.ndslice: assign a vector to a matrix row
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 18:59:25 UTC, 9il wrote:
On Saturday, 15 December 2018 at 19:04:37 UTC, David wrote:
Hi
I am wondering if it is possible to assign a vector to a row
of a matrix?
main.d ==
import mir.ndslice;
void main() {
auto matrix = slice!double(3, 4);
matrix[] = 0;
matrix.diagonal[] = 1;
auto row = matrix[0];
row[3] = 4;
assert(matrix[0, 3] == 4);
// assign it to rows of a matrix?
auto vector = sliced!(double)([10, 11, 12, 13]);
// ??? Here I would like to assign the vector to the last
(but it is not working)
// matrix[2] = vector;
}
So I am wondering what the correct way is to do such an
assignment without looping?
matrix[2][] = vector;
Or
matrix[2,0..$] = vector;
great many thanks!! Is there any logic why getting a row works by
auto row = matrix[0];
but assigning to a row works (only) by the two variant you posted?
Re: dscanner --ctags: local variables, functions, ... are now shown in vim/neovim Tagbar
On Monday, 17 December 2018 at 08:56:07 UTC, Laurent Tréguier wrote: I think that's not possible right now, D-Scanner skips over body functions and unittest blocks to not clutter the tags with potentially lots of local names. A pity; nevertheless many thanks for coming back on it!
dscanner --ctags: local variables, functions, ... are now shown in vim/neovim Tagbar
I am wondering how I could display (nested) local variables and
functions in vim's tagbar (majutsushi/tagbar) using dscanner? So
far I only see gloable variables, functions, ...
=== script.d ==
import std.stdio;
enum globalEnum1 { A = 1, B = 2 }
enum globalEnum2 { C, D }
void globalFun(){ writeln("global"); }
double globalDouble = 2.3;
string globalString = "hi";
void main(){
enum localEnum { A = 1, B = 2 }
void localFun(){ writeln("local"); }
double localDouble = 2.3;
}
===
=== Tagbar shows: ===
◢ functions
globalFun()
main()
◢ globalEnum1 : enum
[enumerators]
A
B
◢ globalEnum2 : enum
[enumerators]
C
D
◢ variables
globalDouble
globalString
===
" tagbar:
let g:tagbar_type_d = {
\ 'ctagstype' : 'd',
\ 'kinds' : [
\ 'c:classes:1:1',
\ 'f:functions:1:1',
\ 'T:template:1:1',
\ 'g:enums:1:1',
\ 'e:enumerators:0:0',
\ 'u:unions:1:1',
\ 's:structs:1:1',
\ 'v:variables:1:0',
\ 'i:interfaces:1:1',
\ 'm:members',
\ 'a:alias'
\ ],
\'sro': '.',
\ 'kind2scope' : {
\ 'c' : 'class',
\ 'g' : 'enum',
\ 's' : 'struct',
\ 'u' : 'union',
\ 'T' : 'template',
\},
\ 'scope2kind' : {
\ 'enum' : 'g',
\ 'class' : 'c',
\ 'struct': 's',
\ 'union' : 'u',
\ 'template' : 'T',
\ },
\ 'ctagsbin' : 'dscanner',
\ 'ctagsargs' : ['--ctags']
\ }
mir.ndslice: assign a vector to a matrix row
Hi
I am wondering if it is possible to assign a vector to a row of a
matrix?
main.d ==
import mir.ndslice;
void main() {
auto matrix = slice!double(3, 4);
matrix[] = 0;
matrix.diagonal[] = 1;
auto row = matrix[0];
row[3] = 4;
assert(matrix[0, 3] == 4);
// assign it to rows of a matrix?
auto vector = sliced!(double)([10, 11, 12, 13]);
// ??? Here I would like to assign the vector to the last (but
it is not working)
// matrix[2] = vector;
}
So I am wondering what the correct way is to do such an
assignment without looping?
Re: working with and installing multiple versions of dmd and D's std-library on linux/ubuntu
Many thanks! dvm works as a dream and I will also give Coedit a try
working with and installing multiple versions of dmd and D's std-library on linux/ubuntu
Hi I am wondering what a good strategy would be to install and work with multiple versions of DMD and the associated standard library on Linux/Ubuntu? The background is that for some features and libraries I need another compiler/std-lib version than for others. So having the opportunity to choose the compiler and the associated std-lib manually would be nice. David
Re: Address of an array
A dynamic array looks something kind of like this:
struct DynamicArray(T)
{
size_t length;
T* ptr;
}
So, if you take the address of a dynamic array, you're
basically taking the address of a struct on the stack, whereas
the address in ptr is the address in memory where the data is
(be it GC-allocated memory, malloc-ed memory, or a static array
on the stack somewhere).
Similarly, if you have a class reference, and you take its
address, you're taking the address of the reference, not the
class object that it points to. e.g.
class MyClass
{
string foo;
}
MyClass mc;
auto addr = &mc;
addr is the address of mc on the stack, whereas mc itself is
null.
- Jonathan M Davis
Many thanks for your speedy and clear answer Jonathan! That makes
even sense to me :-)
Re: Address of an array
On Thursday, 27 October 2016 at 16:13:34 UTC, David wrote:
Hi
The pointer (.ptr) of an array is the address of the first
array element. But what exactly is the address of the array?
And how is it used?
auto myArray = [5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35];
writeln("myArray.ptr: ", myArray.ptr); // myArray.ptr:
7FFA95F29000
writeln("&myArray[0]: ", &myArray[0]); // &myArray[0]:
7FFA95F29000
writeln("&myArray: ", &myArray); // &myArray: 7FFE4B576B10
writeln("*&myArray: ", *&myArray); // *&myArray: [5, 10, 15,
20, 25, 30, 35]
Sorry that went to quickly ;-)
I observe for example that the even if the pointer is moved to
another address the address of the (dynamic) array stays constant:
auto shrink = myArray[0 .. $-1];
writeln("shrink.ptr: ", shrink.ptr);
writeln("&shrink: ", &shrink);
Note: myArray and shrink have the same ptr but a different address
shrink ~= 100;
writeln("shrink.ptr: ", shrink.ptr);
writeln("&shrink: ", &shrink);
Note: After appending, shrink changes its ptr but its address
stays the same.
Thanks for your help in advance.
Address of an array
Hi
The pointer (.ptr) of an array is the address of the first array
element. But what exactly is the address of the array? And how is
it used?
auto myArray = [5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35];
writeln("myArray.ptr: ", myArray.ptr); // myArray.ptr:
7FFA95F29000
writeln("&myArray[0]: ", &myArray[0]); // &myArray[0]:
7FFA95F29000
writeln("&myArray: ", &myArray); // &myArray: 7FFE4B576B10
writeln("*&myArray: ", *&myArray); // *&myArray: [5, 10, 15,
20, 25, 30, 35]
Game Development Using D
Hi, I want to try to create a game using D. I'm a complete newbie though (other than having C/C++ experience). Where would I start? Does D have an openGL binding? I am assuming I'll need to leverage a good amount C APIs? Any list of these that would be useful it a game setting? Obviously this all depends on *how* much work I want to do. Ideally, I'd like a collection of tools that will get me roughly the equivalent of what XNA provides.
Re: Programming a Game in D? :D
Hi, About 2 month ago I started learning modding for minecraft with the Forge API I was reading through a lot of classes of minecraft and even no it might not seem like, I learned a freking lot about how games work and stuff and improved my programming skill a lot (Yes for Java but also overall) So now, I want to come back to my own game with a lot of questions :P So first of all, I'm not sure if D is really the best choice for me. Since its just pretty hard for begginers like me without any tutorials and anything to come up with a game. Then what language should it be? It should have a big community around and be a good language for games (fast) and it should not be called C++. And I know you told me it would be a better idea to get going first with easier tools like gamemaker or something like that, but I seriously don't want to come up with something big anyway and if i fail completly I don't mind. And finally, (now thats going far away from the actual point and maybe thats even the wrong forum for that) how is wrapping working? lets say I wrote a method methodA in Java in ClassA and wanted to use MethodA in D, how would I go about doing this? (Well, is a wrapper actually doing what I think?). David = still a fool.
Re: Programming a Game in D? :D
Hi, not too sure if there's still someone reading this post, but i do have another question. So, I heared so much good stuff about D, it's powerfull, fast the syntax is nice, but well, why is D actually not used for common games yet? (I mean I know about some smaller projects, but nothing "big")
Re: Programming a Game in D? :D
On Wednesday, 28 May 2014 at 21:38:07 UTC, Francesco Cattoglio wrote: I'll be honest, perhaps I risk being misunderstood, but the questions you are asking denote a lack of even basic knowledge about the subject, so I really think you should do some good amount of research before even trying to write something on your own. Well, I really don't have a lot of knowledge but I don't know where to start. The Problem is just that there is sooo much stuff in the internet and it's kinda hard to get some knowledge. Have you tried at least some free tools that allow you to script stuff and have simple stuff displayed on screen? I'm talking about stuff like Construct 2, GameMaker, RPGMaker, zGameEditor... even map editors like the ones from Blizzard (WarCraft 3 : TFT or StarCraft 2)? So, i made a very little game with delphi Genesis3D and an Editor i don't remember about 2 years ago, but i don't know if i really knew what i was doing there :P
Re: Programming a Game in D? :D
On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 10:13:13 UTC, Szymon Gatner wrote: On Tuesday, 27 May 2014 at 10:03:36 UTC, David wrote: On Saturday, 24 May 2014 at 08:54:53 UTC, ponce wrote: Hi David, Learning programming, learning D and learning 3D are 3 significant endeavours. You might want to begin with http://www.basic4gl.net/ which will get you going with 3D, quite a topic in itself. Then learn D regardless :) So, I'v used Blender for a half year or sth. and I think I can make a little area :) As far as I know, I do now need a graphic and physics engines, 1 of the graphic APIs and for sure my programming stuff and here I'm stuck :D And I still can't install Mono-D :( if I try I just get a whole bunch of errors that any packages couldn't be found, don't know if I'm doing sth. wrong (I probably do :P) I would STRONGLY advise to go with a ready engine like Unity. You still have to learn a lot before you will have just building blocks to create a game like loading and rendering 3D models, a gameplay framework etc etc. Start with Unity, lean how to make a game there. Learn how to programm gameplay there and after that, when you see what is needed before even being able to make a game, only then try to make things from scratch. Use C# in Unity too as it is similar to D so you will have easier transition when necessary. Ok, now I just wonder wich Engine. (I know everybody hates the discussion about the "best" engine.) CryEngine, UDK, Unity or a less known Engine?
Re: Programming a Game in D? :D
On Saturday, 24 May 2014 at 08:54:53 UTC, ponce wrote: Hi David, Learning programming, learning D and learning 3D are 3 significant endeavours. You might want to begin with http://www.basic4gl.net/ which will get you going with 3D, quite a topic in itself. Then learn D regardless :) So, I'v used Blender for a half year or sth. and I think I can make a little area :) As far as I know, I do now need a graphic and physics engines, 1 of the graphic APIs and for sure my programming stuff and here I'm stuck :D And I still can't install Mono-D :( if I try I just get a whole bunch of errors that any packages couldn't be found, don't know if I'm doing sth. wrong (I probably do :P)
Re: Programming a Game in D? :D
On Saturday, 24 May 2014 at 09:49:30 UTC, evilrat wrote: On Saturday, 24 May 2014 at 09:35:01 UTC, David wrote: On Friday, 23 May 2014 at 17:47:56 UTC, evilrat wrote: why not just use Xamarin Studio with Mono-D? But only the trial of Xamarin Studio is for free, and I used eclipse for Java before and really like it :P actually not. you don't even need to register at all. just go to http://monodevelop.com and get ur XS without all this fancy mobile stuff. So I installed that Xamarin studio (hope i had to), what to do with the mono D thing now? don't know hot to install it :P
Re: Programming a Game in D? :D
On Friday, 23 May 2014 at 17:47:56 UTC, evilrat wrote: why not just use Xamarin Studio with Mono-D? But only the trial of Xamarin Studio is for free, and I used eclipse for Java before and really like it :P
Re: Programming a Game in D? :D
On Friday, 23 May 2014 at 14:11:26 UTC, David wrote: Ok so I installed DDT for eclipse now but have a problem :D First the imports are changed, std.studio is now std.stdio (or its something completly else) And if I try to run the file now it says that the exe file of my file doesn't exsist wich I actully thought I creat by clicking on run? In Java it was just pressing run.. :/ actually no it was std.stdio before too :D woops but wont solve my problem with getting it run
Re: Programming a Game in D? :D
Ok so I installed DDT for eclipse now but have a problem :D First the imports are changed, std.studio is now std.stdio (or its something completly else) And if I try to run the file now it says that the exe file of my file doesn't exsist wich I actully thought I creat by clicking on run? In Java it was just pressing run.. :/
Programming a Game in D? :D
Hey, I'm really new to D, and pretty new to programming overall too, But I want to make a 3d Game, (just sth. small). I really like D and want to do it in D, but in the Internet there is no shit about programming a game in D ^^ Is there any engine written in D? For example the CryEngine is for C++, so I would have to write a wrapper? So, how do I write a wrapper? I would need a wrapper for DirectX too right? Are there any wrappers ore Engines for D i can use? btw. I know I dont write that in 1 day ^^ Are there any tutorials or sth. on Programming a Game in D? S I just wanna come as far to have a little Cube where i can run around on with a few phisics :) so just the startup to load a world and so on Thanks in advance :) And sry my english sucks :D
Re: DMD & Deimos || GDC & Deimos?
Am 26.04.2014 20:18, schrieb Entry: > I'd like to use GLFW from Deimos, but I couldn't get it to work (DMD > said it cannot use libglfw.a) and I've read somewhere that only GDC can > use these DLLs directly (with a D header, but that's still better than > hooking the methods). So do I need GDC for that or not? And would you > actually recommend it? > > On a side note, getting GDC to work is a bitch. I had to copy around > several DLLs (like libiconv-2.dll) and it's now working only with the > libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll copied right next to my application's exe. What am I > doing wrong? > > This is really frustrating :/ I have a 10 month old glfw3.dll https://github.com/Dav1dde/BraLa/tree/master/lib/win Since glfw didnt change much (that was already at release), this is probably enough for you. Simply pass the glfw3.lib to the compiler and make sure glfw3.dll is reachable in runtime. But you can also build your own using cygwin (that's how I made it) and use implib for format conversion.
