On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 18:15:22 UTC, Seb wrote:
- good nosql interface
what's wrong with vibed's mongodb?
Probably nothing for those who use it. I only use:
https://cloud.google.com/datastore/
https://cloud.google.com/storage/
https://cloud.google.com/sql/
Amazon and Microsoft have si
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:59:29 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:43:23 UTC, dewitt wrote:
vibes website doesn't use a proxy.
Yes, but more people visit dlang.org, and it makes it more
official if it is showcased here as a visible part of the
website (one
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:50:11 UTC, Seb wrote:
I agree that a showcase website for vibed (or another D web
framework) would be beneficial, but a real showcase has totally
different specs:
- > 1 million visitors per day
- highly dynamic content (high-throughput databases)
- solved techno
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:43:23 UTC, dewitt wrote:
vibes website doesn't use a proxy.
Yes, but more people visit dlang.org, and it makes it more
official if it is showcased here as a visible part of the website
(one way or another).
But if D wants to compete in web then there are alot
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:43:03 UTC, Seb wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:05:42 UTC, Jonathan Marler
wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:51:58 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim
Grøstad wrote:
The forum-index http header report:
Ser
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:34:25 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:17:37 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
bother with a proper setup. There's a reason ALL the other
major languages and frameworks use Apache/nginx/IIS on their
websites. It's the recommended way to do
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:34:25 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:17:37 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
bother with a proper setup. There's a reason ALL the other
major languages and frameworks use Apache/nginx/IIS on their
websites. It's the recommended way to do
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:05:42 UTC, Jonathan Marler wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:51:58 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
The forum-index http header report:
Server:nginx/1.4.6 (Ubuntu)
People check out stuff like t
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:25:32 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:41:55 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
[snip]
I like the "are we fast yet" websites that various project put
up, displaying improvements over time.
You mean like this? http://digger.k3.1azy.net/tre
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:17:37 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
bother with a proper setup. There's a reason ALL the other
major languages and frameworks use Apache/nginx/IIS on their
websites. It's the recommended way to do it.
Sure, you can have vibe.d behind nginx, if you want to, but it
w
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:41:55 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
[snip]
I like the "are we fast yet" websites that various project put
up, displaying improvements over time.
You mean like this? http://digger.k3.1azy.net/trend/
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:58:42 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
At any rate, we *are* using our own tech in several places. And
I think Seb has shown that in practice, it probably isn't that
big a deal that the entire website isn't served by a D project.
If you want to convince me, as a backend
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:05:42 UTC, Jonathan Marler wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:51:58 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
The forum-index http header report:
Server:nginx/1.4.6 (Ubuntu)
People check out stuff like t
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 17:05:42 UTC, Jonathan Marler wrote:
I can picture the article now:
I can't. It is an industry-standard deployment with a commonly
used configuration option - people change that all the time. PHP,
for example, will modify it to output something like this:
Server
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:51:58 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
The forum-index http header report:
Server:nginx/1.4.6 (Ubuntu)
People check out stuff like that.
Yeah, and that's an industry-standard production deployment.
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:58:31 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
This is very basic marketing 101.
engineers doesn't do marketing. engineers solving tasks.
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:45:58 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
What does that have to do with the website? The forum software
is written in D and has a reputation for performance. This is
simply a matter of it not popping up o
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:53:32 UTC, ketmar wrote:
go write it! nope? why do you think that D devs should? they
have other work to do, it would be *stupid* to not reuse
existing tools.
If I thought that D was good for the purpose, I would. I have not
made such claims. I am pointing out
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:44:00 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:38:02 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
They do of course use golang for their blog and make it
available as a download.
As they _should_.
google. money. does that rings the bell?
No. The go blog softwar
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:49:46 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:44:00 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:38:02 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
They do of course use golang for their blog and make it
available as a download.
As they _should
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:40:37 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
DFeed is a NNTP client, not a NNTP server.
sure. why should it be an NNTP server? there is task to solve:
provide web frontend to the existing NNTP server. that task was
solved. there was no task "waste some time to rewrite
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:36:50 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:23:13 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
Yes, no point in writing your own forum software.
ah, sure, there was the reason to write DFeed! that's why
forum.dlang.org is using engine written in D.
DFeed is a
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:38:02 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
They do of course use golang for their blog and make it
available as a download.
As they _should_.
google. money. does that rings the bell?
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 13:32:00 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 13:13:07 UTC, Jonathan Marler
wrote:
I've decided to write a web application using vibe and was
shocked to see that dlang.org was using apache.
Should I be scared that even after this long, the official
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:28:54 UTC, dewitt wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:18:27 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
People check out stuff like that. The forum backend also use
a standard NNTP server, not implemented in D? That
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:23:13 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
Yes, no point in writing your own forum software.
ah, sure, there was the reason to write DFeed! that's why
forum.dlang.org is using engine written in D.
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:18:27 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
People check out stuff like that. The forum backend also use a
standard NNTP server, not implemented in D? That's ok too as
there is no D forum software...
it's even
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 16:07:26 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:57:42 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
Huh? No, as long as D is not backed by some giant like Google
or Apple it has to do its own marketing and showcase its own
stuff where it can.
the key words are "wher
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:57:42 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
Huh? No, as long as D is not backed by some giant like Google
or Apple it has to do its own marketing and showcase its own
stuff where it can.
the key words are "where it can". rewriting already working tools
(perfectly wor
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:52:06 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:40:48 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:31:34 UTC, ketmar wrote:
i'm trying to hint that there is no reason to reimplement
*everything* in D. bad engineers reinvent, good engin
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:40:48 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:31:34 UTC, ketmar wrote:
i'm trying to hint that there is no reason to reimplement
*everything* in D. bad engineers reinvent, good engineers
reuse!
This is about marketing, not engineering.
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
The forum-index http header report:
Server:nginx/1.4.6 (Ubuntu)
People check out stuff like that.
Yeah, and that's an industry-standard production deployment.
But perhaps we should just change the server line for the peopl
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:31:34 UTC, ketmar wrote:
i'm trying to hint that there is no reason to reimplement
*everything* in D. bad engineers reinvent, good engineers reuse!
This is about marketing, not engineering.
Walter is arguing that vibe.d should be distributed with the
compiler.
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:23:58 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:18:27 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
People check out stuff like that. The forum backend also use
a standard NNTP server, not implement
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:18:27 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
People check out stuff like that. The forum backend also use a
standard NNTP server, not implemented in D? That's ok too as
there is no D forum software...
it's even
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:04:24 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:57:11 UTC, Jonathan Marler
wrote:
However, I think you have to consider the emotional impact of
this.
nodejs.org's homepage is served by nginx. D is general purpose,
node is specifically web.
Nob
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 15:05:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
People check out stuff like that. The forum backend also use a
standard NNTP server, not implemented in D? That's ok too as
there is no D forum software...
it's even more than that: D servers are using OS which is not
imple
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:45:58 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
What does that have to do with the website? The forum software
is written in D and has a reputation for performance. This is
simply a matter of it not popping up on anyone's radar and has
nothing to do with the GC or performance hits
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:57:11 UTC, Jonathan Marler wrote:
However, I think you have to consider the emotional impact of
this.
nodejs.org's homepage is served by nginx. D is general purpose,
node is specifically web.
Nobody seems to care (probably because using nginx is the
recommend
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:43:35 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Really? I just don't see it as that big of a deal. Again, three
subdomains are using D right now. So it's not like it's not
being used at all. Moving the website to D just hasn't been a
priority (nor should it be, IMO). Anyone in the
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:41:55 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
But DMD also doesn't use the GC because it doesn't perform well
enough. Stuff like this adds up.
So I agree with you in essence, sending the message that there
are things to avoid is not good in the long run. It might be
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:33:50 UTC, Jonathan Marler wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 13:32:00 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Why would we change over when Apache is working quite happily
to serve up static content?
I didn't say that. Rikki did :)
If the official D website doesn't feel lik
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:33:50 UTC, Jonathan Marler wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 13:32:00 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Why would we change over when Apache is working quite happily
to serve up static content?
I've heard that same argument as the reason people don't use
the D language
On 6/8/16 10:33 AM, Jonathan Marler wrote:
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 13:32:00 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Why would we change over when Apache is working quite happily to serve
up static content?
I've heard that same argument as the reason people don't use the D
language. Why would I change ov
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 14:30:53 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
These servers tend to be very efficient at front end tasks like
load balancing, static file serving and cache management,
standards compliance (including automatically up/down grading
HTTP versions or TLS requirements), management,
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 13:32:00 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
Why would we change over when Apache is working quite happily
to serve up static content?
I've heard that same argument as the reason people don't use the
D language. Why would I change over to D when C/C++ is working
quite happil
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 13:13:07 UTC, Jonathan Marler wrote:
I've decided to write a web application using vibe and was
shocked to see that dlang.org was using apache.
It is very common for real world web apps to run behind Apache,
nginx, IIS, or another major production server.
These s
On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 at 13:13:07 UTC, Jonathan Marler wrote:
I've decided to write a web application using vibe and was
shocked to see that dlang.org was using apache.
Should I be scared that even after this long, the official D
website doesn't rely on its own web tools?
No, you shouldn
On 09/06/2016 1:13 AM, Jonathan Marler wrote:
I've decided to write a web application using vibe and was shocked to
see that dlang.org was using apache.
Should I be scared that even after this long, the official D website
doesn't rely on its own web tools?
Why would we change over when Apache
I've decided to write a web application using vibe and was
shocked to see that dlang.org was using apache.
Should I be scared that even after this long, the official D
website doesn't rely on its own web tools?
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