Re: Andrei's "The D Programming Language" book. Up to date?

2017-11-29 Thread Jonathan M Davis via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 17:26:11 Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d-
learn wrote:
> On Wednesday, 4 October 2017 at 20:49:26 UTC, John Gabriele wrote:
> > What's changed in the language, library, and community since
> > then that I should be aware of if following along with and
> > learning from that book?
>
> Here's a list of significant things - maybe incomplete:
> https://wiki.dlang.org/Differences_With_TDPL

I didn't even realize that that page existed. I just made some tweaks to it,
though it's still probably far from complete as far as stuff not mentioned
in TDPL goes. As for unimplemented stuff, it made it sound like shared isn't
implemented (which isn't true at all; it just doesn't have memory barriers
like TDPL talks about; the big thing missing for shared is arguably that the
memory model for D needs to be properly defined like C++ finally did, but
TDPL doesn't talk about that at all), and the wiki page didn't list
synchronized classes, which is the other big one that isn't implemented
(though putting synchronized on classes actually has _some_ effect now,
which it didn't until fairly recently).

- Jonathan M Davis



Re: Andrei's "The D Programming Language" book. Up to date?

2017-11-29 Thread John Gabriele via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 at 17:26:11 UTC, Nick Treleaven 
wrote:
On Wednesday, 4 October 2017 at 20:49:26 UTC, John Gabriele 
wrote:
What's changed in the language, library, and community since 
then that I should be aware of if following along with and 
learning from that book?


Here's a list of significant things - maybe incomplete:
https://wiki.dlang.org/Differences_With_TDPL


Nice! Thanks, Nick!



Re: Andrei's "The D Programming Language" book. Up to date?

2017-11-29 Thread Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 at 17:50:59 UTC, Arun 
Chandrasekaran wrote:

Multiple alias this
You can only have one subtyping member currently.



Shared
Not all of shared's guarantees are implemented yet.



SafeD
@safe (and therefore SafeD) isn't fully implemented. So, it 
doesn't necessarily work quite like it's supposed to yet.


How much of these are relevant today with 2.077.0?


The first two are true AIUI. @safe is mostly implemented, there's 
been a lot of progress on that since TDPL.


Re: Andrei's "The D Programming Language" book. Up to date?

2017-11-29 Thread Arun Chandrasekaran via Digitalmars-d-learn
On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 at 17:26:11 UTC, Nick Treleaven 
wrote:

Here's a list of significant things - maybe incomplete:
https://wiki.dlang.org/Differences_With_TDPL



Multiple alias this
You can only have one subtyping member currently.



Shared
Not all of shared's guarantees are implemented yet.



SafeD
@safe (and therefore SafeD) isn't fully implemented. So, it 
doesn't necessarily work quite like it's supposed to yet.


How much of these are relevant today with 2.077.0?


Re: Andrei's "The D Programming Language" book. Up to date?

2017-11-29 Thread Nick Treleaven via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 4 October 2017 at 20:49:26 UTC, John Gabriele wrote:
What's changed in the language, library, and community since 
then that I should be aware of if following along with and 
learning from that book?


Here's a list of significant things - maybe incomplete:
https://wiki.dlang.org/Differences_With_TDPL


Re: Andrei's "The D Programming Language" book. Up to date?

2017-10-05 Thread Seb via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 4 October 2017 at 20:49:26 UTC, John Gabriele wrote:

Hi all,

This is my first message to this forum. And what a pleasure it 
is to be here. :)


I was just looking around at what D books are available. I see 
that Andrei's "The D Programming Language" was published in 
2010. What's changed in the language, library, and community 
since then that I should be aware of if following along with 
and learning from that book?


Incidentally, is a new edition is on its way any time soon?

Thanks!


I can only recommend his book. You get a "second-hand" insight 
into all decisions of D2 and Andrei's writing style is very 
vivid, so one can barely stop reading the book.


In case you are interested on the list of things that have 
changed, there's http://erdani.com/tdpl/errata (it's mostly just 
typos though).


Re: Andrei's "The D Programming Language" book. Up to date?

2017-10-05 Thread Dukc via Digitalmars-d-learn

On Wednesday, 4 October 2017 at 20:49:26 UTC, John Gabriele wrote:

Hi all,

This is my first message to this forum. And what a pleasure it 
is to be here. :)


I was just looking around at what D books are available. I see 
that Andrei's "The D Programming Language" was published in 
2010. What's changed in the language, library, and community 
since then that I should be aware of if following along with 
and learning from that book?


Incidentally, is a new edition is on its way any time soon?

Thanks!


The core language hasn't changed that much (yet some). Most of 
the differences from times back then are because we now have much 
more third-party libraries, and the implementation is much more 
stable. Or that's what I've heard anyway.


And I think that the book is ahead of it's time, advertising 
features that probably only barely worked and were seldom used 
back then. Just what Modern c++ is known for too. That makes it 
feel easily three years younger than it really is. I wasn't here 
myself trough so I don't know for sure.


Re: Andrei's "The D Programming Language" book. Up to date?

2017-10-04 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d-learn
Andrei's book contains some outdated and some not-yet-implemented things 
but it's still a great read. It explains core features and design 
decisions of D very well.


Ali