Re: Novice web developer trying to learn D
On Monday, 8 September 2014 at 21:17:40 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 21:05:53 + Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: I would agree but that little C book is an amazing read and full of valuable lessons. and pointer arithmetic, and memory leaks, and zero-terminated strings, and writing generic algoritms with ugly casting, and... bad habits die hard. Maybe only to know, what to avoid. https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/2459 But books on D can already propose a good programming style. That should be enough. Also it can be better for a php programmer to start with high level D and go lower if and as needed.
Re: Novice web developer trying to learn D
On Sunday, 7 September 2014 at 21:06:48 UTC, zuzuleinen wrote: The reason I post this is to ask you what other books do you think I should try in order to become hireable in the next 2 years? See http://forum.dlang.org/thread/sgtnnyvmhxzexupgw...@forum.dlang.org
Re: Novice web developer trying to learn D
On Sunday, 7 September 2014 at 21:06:48 UTC, zuzuleinen wrote: Hello, First, here is my Linkedin profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/andreiboar in order to make an image of my professional background. I do realise here are really good programmers for which this background might sound like a joke, but this is what I did so far. After watching some presentantions from DConf, and trying the language I decided to give it a try in the future. Currrently I'm reading the Programming in D book by Ali Çehreli, and then The D Programming Language by Andrei Alexandrescu in order to learn more. The reason I post this is to ask you what other books do you think I should try in order to become hireable in the next 2 years? As a web developer I know I lack a lot of information, but I'm willing to do the hard work. So if anyone has any other books/things I need to know and is willing to make me like a small roadmap to become a good D developer I would really appreciate. Thanks a lot, Andrei Hi and welcome. I find it great that you want to learn and grow as a developer, many web devs don't and yet still think they're awesome. Using a language like D is a complete departure from what you've been doing so far because it compiles to native code and with that brings quite a few things to learn. So where to start. First, i would take time to learn about pointers. These are pretty fundamental when dealing with native code and there's no real way of getting around that. Here's a five minute guide: http://denniskubes.com/2012/08/16/the-5-minute-guide-to-c-pointers/ After that i would probably familiarise myself with the compiler and linker: http://dlang.org/dmd-windows.html http://dlang.org/dmd-linux.html http://www.lurklurk.org/linkers/linkers.html You're already reading Ali's and Andrei's books so that's good. Try reading the phobos documentation to familiarise yourself with the library: http://dlang.org/phobos/index.html Maybe controversial but i would also consider reading the C book for a good grounding in pointers and memory allocation, etc. A lot of this is relevant in D. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language It's nice to know these basics and you'll appreciate D a whole lot more coming from C. ;) Remember to ask questions here as you go.
Re: Novice web developer trying to learn D
Thank you all for all your suggestions, I really appreciate them :) Now it's time to dive in, you gave me good resources :)
Re: Novice web developer trying to learn D
On Sunday, 7 September 2014 at 21:06:48 UTC, zuzuleinen wrote: Hello, First, here is my Linkedin profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/andreiboar in order to make an image of my professional background. I do realise here are really good programmers for which this background might sound like a joke, but this is what I did so far. After watching some presentantions from DConf, and trying the language I decided to give it a try in the future. Currrently I'm reading the Programming in D book by Ali Çehreli, and then The D Programming Language by Andrei Alexandrescu in order to learn more. The reason I post this is to ask you what other books do you think I should try in order to become hireable in the next 2 years? As a web developer I know I lack a lot of information, but I'm willing to do the hard work. So if anyone has any other books/things I need to know and is willing to make me like a small roadmap to become a good D developer I would really appreciate. Thanks a lot, Andrei Before go to D I recomend you to take a look at the C programming language (as Gary Willoughby already mentioned). I think it's really fundamental.
Re: Novice web developer trying to learn D
On Monday, 8 September 2014 at 20:58:20 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 20:47:19 + AsmMan via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: Before go to D I recomend you to take a look at the C programming language (as Gary Willoughby already mentioned). I think it's really fundamental. do you really want him to drop programming? there is no need to start with Ford Model T to drive Lamborghini Estoque. *conceptions* are fundamental, not languages. and D is much better starting point than C. i know it, i have almost two decades of C expirience. I would agree but that little C book is an amazing read and full of valuable lessons.
Re: Novice web developer trying to learn D
On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 21:05:53 + Gary Willoughby via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: I would agree but that little C book is an amazing read and full of valuable lessons. and pointer arithmetic, and memory leaks, and zero-terminated strings, and writing generic algoritms with ugly casting, and... bad habits die hard. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Novice web developer trying to learn D
On Monday, 8 September 2014 at 20:58:20 UTC, ketmar via Digitalmars-d-learn wrote: On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 20:47:19 + AsmMan via Digitalmars-d-learn digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com wrote: Before go to D I recomend you to take a look at the C programming language (as Gary Willoughby already mentioned). I think it's really fundamental. do you really want him to drop programming? there is no need to start with Ford Model T to drive Lamborghini Estoque. *conceptions* are fundamental, not languages. and D is much better starting point than C. i know it, i have almost two decades of C expirience. +1 If you really want background before moving on to D, go with assembly instead. C is no more a prerequisite for D than is lambda calculus.
Re: Novice web developer trying to learn D
There's Adam Ruppe's excellent D Cookbook available here: https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/d-cookbook And since you specifically said web developer I hope you're looking at vibe.d: http://vibed.org/
Re: Novice web developer trying to learn D
On Sunday, 7 September 2014 at 21:06:48 UTC, zuzuleinen wrote: Hello, First, here is my Linkedin profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/andreiboar in order to make an image of my professional background. I do realise here are really good programmers for which this background might sound like a joke, but this is what I did so far. After watching some presentantions from DConf, and trying the language I decided to give it a try in the future. Currrently I'm reading the Programming in D book by Ali Çehreli, and then The D Programming Language by Andrei Alexandrescu in order to learn more. The reason I post this is to ask you what other books do you think I should try in order to become hireable in the next 2 years? As a web developer I know I lack a lot of information, but I'm willing to do the hard work. So if anyone has any other books/things I need to know and is willing to make me like a small roadmap to become a good D developer I would really appreciate. Thanks a lot, Andrei I would also recommend for you to investigate my work on: Cmsed[0] Dakka[1] Dvorm[2] livereload[3] skeleton[4] Please note next version of Cmsed which will support livereload/skeleton/Dakka is currently not ready to go on github. [0] https://github.com/rikkimax/Cmsed [1] https://github.com/rikkimax/dakka [2] https://github.com/rikkimax/Dvorm [3] https://github.com/rikkimax/livereload [4] https://github.com/rikkimax/skeleton
