Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
Original Message Follows From: bruce mallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 08:14:08 -0700 (PDT) --- Skip Teller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
Bruce, When are you ever going to stop your babling ignorance about wide band HSMM on 6-meters? You are worried about 100 kHz when the band maybe opens in a few years out of a 4,000 kHz wide band. Get real! Attach brain to keyboard. I am getting very tired of reading about something you know

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
You better work on your math, Bruce! A 100 kHz channel in 4 MHz is only 2.5% Original Message Follows From: bruce mallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols Date:

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 08:54:36 -0700 John Champa wrote: Bruce, When are you ever going to stop your babling ignorance about wide band HSMM on 6-meters? You are worried about 100 kHz when

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
is't usless to all others ... IM DONE --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You better work on your math, Bruce! A 100 kHz channel in 4 MHz is only 2.5% Original Message Follows From: bruce mallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio

RE: [digitalradio] Re: FCC's Riley Cross Clarify

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
Very cute, Bonnie! Obviously there are AT LEAST two sets of regulations 1. What is written in the books (CFR, etc.) 2. What is actually ENFORCED. Reference: The Sociology of Regulations by Bonnie Crystal, KQ6XA, as published in the Summer Issue, CQ-VHF Magazine. Thanks, John - K8OCL

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
Bruce, You are just one big lovable DINOSAUR. Vy 73, John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: bruce mallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols Date: Sun, 3 Jun

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
find it better for everyone, including yourself. Rick, KV9U John Champa wrote: Bruce, When are you ever going to stop your babling ignorance about wide band HSMM on 6-meters? You are worried about 100 kHz when the band maybe opens in a few years out of a 4,000 kHz wide band. Get

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
@yahoogroups.com, John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you have had the opportunity to lead such an effort, it is you who should knock it off. That's wrong, John. A leader must not only accept, but actively solicit critique from everywhere, not just from others who have taken leadership roles. And he

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comments to ARRL on New Digi Protocols

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
cause serious interference to other areas and even regions if the bands open with Es and F layer propagation. Rick, KV9U John Champa wrote: Rick, Unless you have had the opportunity to lead such an effort, it is you who should knock it off. Obviously you have never stepped

RE: [digitalradio] FCC's Riley Cross Clarify

2007-06-03 Thread John Champa
Suggestion? Don't hold your breath while you are waiting for this to happen (HI). Vy 73, John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: kd4e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] FCC's Riley Cross Clarify Date:

RE: [digitalradio] Dead US Veteran/Ham question

2007-06-01 Thread John Champa
http://www.amvets.org/ Original Message Follows From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Dead US Veteran/Ham question Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:37:15 -0400 A little different from the usual

RE: [digitalradio] Signals at 14076

2007-05-08 Thread John Champa
Does this help? http://www.signals.taunus.de/TABLES/ALE.HTML Original Message Follows From: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Signals at 14076 Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 21:23:36 - There is a musical

RE: [digitalradio] Signals at 14076

2007-05-08 Thread John Champa
Does this help? http://www.signals.taunus.de/TABLES/ALE.HTML Original Message Follows From: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Signals at 14076 Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 21:23:36 - There is a musical

RE: [digitalradio] Signals at 14076

2007-05-08 Thread John Champa
Does this help? http://www.signals.taunus.de/TABLES/ALE.HTML Original Message Follows From: Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Signals at 14076 Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 21:23:36 - There is a musical

Re: [digitalradio] Digi Voice: No Bandwidth Limit (was Re: ARRL wake up ......)

2007-05-04 Thread John Champa
flopped here except for cost I don't have a clue why they work OK but no one is interested in them ORLANDO FL AES has the nearest system so much for buying one Ill stick with the new sound card digimoder. Bruce --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, That is excellent

Re: [digitalradio] Digi Voice: No Bandwidth Limit (was Re: ARRL wake up ......)

2007-05-03 Thread John Champa
Bruce, We call it LISTEN FIRST before transmitting... You really need to get on the air more, OM! (HI) And stop wasting your time on this reflector... John Original Message Follows From: bruce mallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To:

Re: [digitalradio] Digi Voice: No Bandwidth Limit (was Re: ARRL wake up ......)

2007-05-03 Thread John Champa
... the old box is on the FT-100 which allows me to run it on 6 psk-31 when its on or 14.070. Give a listen one day you might hear me ... on just about any mode.. --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, We call it LISTEN FIRST before transmitting... You really need to get

Re: [digitalradio] Digi Voice: No Bandwidth Limit (was Re: ARRL wake up ......)

2007-05-03 Thread John Champa
: No Bandwidth Limit (was Re: ARRL wake up ..) Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 11:32:34 -0700 (PDT) I'm trying to keep the bands populated It gets lonely on 432 SSB ..LOL --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, That's impressive! Good for you... John Original

Re: [digitalradio] Digi Voice: No Bandwidth Limit (was Re: ARRL wake up ......)

2007-05-02 Thread John Champa
Good operating practice is to always ID in the mode! Even in ATV...hold up a QSL card in front of the camera. Original Message Follows From: Danny Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Digi Voice: No

RE: [digitalradio] The ARRL

2007-05-01 Thread John Champa
Yes, we all LOVE the ARRL in reality...it's the only show in town to defend Amateur Radio here in the US. Therefore, it's sort of similar to getting along with the in-laws (HI). John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: Mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To:

RE: [digitalradio] Digi Voice: No Bandwidth Limit (was Re: ARRL wake up ......)

2007-05-01 Thread John Champa
John, Didn't you read all those many rants on the HSMM pages last year? They were all saying the same thing Bonnie is writing here, i.e., the the ARRL bandwidth proposal takes away privileges because under exisiting regs there is NO BANDWIDTH limit. It's the secret hidden in the proposal that

Re: [digitalradio] New 200kHz Wideband Digital Voice on 20 meters in USA?

2007-05-01 Thread John Champa
Yes, that is the way the FCC seems to work to They really don't seem to care much what digital stuff we send out... AS LONG AS NOBODY COMPLAINS! John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: wa8vbx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To:

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption MAYBE!

2007-04-29 Thread John Champa
: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Champa k8ocl@ wrote: Wow! N6CRR stated that very, very well... Congrats! Wowser right back. Guess I'm just one of those simple folks that call a spade a spade, and point out the attempt to back door change the nature of amateur radio

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption NOT!

2007-04-29 Thread John Champa
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep... There is a role for Ham Radio in EMCOM, but I don't know what it is so I just stay out of it. Some of other guys are wearing badges, etc. My desire in HSMM was more along the lines of digital video (ADV), but nobody

Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......

2007-04-29 Thread John Champa
to ask THEM. 6) OR THEY ARE USELESS . --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:k8ocl%40hotmail.com wrote: Brfuce, __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
the Air Ways anyway! Rod John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, The International Regs changed last January (2006) to allow Amateurs to use encryption. However, not for international traffic. It's only permitted for internal domestic traffic

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
My digital Ham station on 2.4 GHz is ALWAYS encrypted and the FCC said that's OK because we share that frequency with a portion of the Part 15 allocation. Original Message Follows From: Danny Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To:

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Off-topic, but any help appreciated

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Wow! One of the local head hunters...oppps, I mean Professional Recruiters!...sorry... recently wanted me to accept a job as a VP for off-shore technical resources. Wonder if this is what he was writing about? (HI, HI) Gotta buy that World if flat book! Tnx Garrett Dave! 73, John - K8OCL

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Kurt, It is already here! We have been encrypting Amateur Radio Part 97 digital traffic 24/7 on 2.4 GHz for years! It is expanding in use in the Amateur Radio VHF UHF bands, but is not likely to be found on any HF bands as international encrypted traffic is not permitted by the ITUbut

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
it take for the FCC to shut all digital encription down --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, Encryption is a requirement in Ham Radio whenever a band is shared with another service AND there is automatic data connection capability enabled, e.g. the use of 802.11b

RE: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
not the members have to ask THEM. 6) OR THEY ARE USELESS . --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brfuce, __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

RE: [digitalradio] Wideband on 6

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Bruce, Yes, frequency coordination above 53 MHz would be a problem when the band open, but I think we would have a few years to work that out as the technology evolved from self-designed kit modems, to publicly available kits, to a manufactured product such as is sold for 4 MHz ATV at present.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption... NOT

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
a nascent group that is studying and applying what might be the tip of the iceberg. Rick, KV9U John Champa wrote: Kurt, It is already here! We have been encrypting Amateur Radio Part 97 digital traffic 24/7 on 2.4 GHz for years! It is expanding in use in the Amateur Radio VHF UHF bands

Re: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up ......

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
: [digitalradio] ARRL wake up .. Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:39:14 -0700 (PDT) OPINION is still allowed in this country When it's not there will be no need for HAM radio. IF the ARRL feels it's members are slandering it then let us know .. --- John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, Knock

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
buy that argument (HI). John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: n2qz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:25:47 -0400 John Champa wrote: So

[digitalradio] RE: [illinoisdigitalham] ARRL Withdraws Regulation by Bandwidth Petition, Plans to Refile

2007-04-27 Thread John Champa
Mathew, I don't think the League is trying to control anything. My guess is that the FCC simply isn't buying the concept! Perhaps it looks too much like an enforcement nightmare. 73, John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: Matthew Genelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL

Re: [digitalradio] FCC Announcement

2007-04-01 Thread John Champa
Bruce, Knock off the generalized attacks, OK. If that is the best you can do, then please shut up. Thanks, John K8OCL Original Message Follows From: bruce mallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] FCC

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 symbols/second)

2007-03-26 Thread John Champa
Bruce, It is uncertain that a typical OFDM 5W signal spread over 100 kHz would have enough power density to break the squelch on an FM receiver. In other words, FM rigs may not even hear the 100 kHz signal. If they bother to open their squelch, they may note a slight increase in background noise

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Tearing Down USA's Data Wall

2007-03-26 Thread John Champa
Walt, I think Rick has some good points here. The FCC has their own agenda, and contrary to times past does NOT follow ARRL recommendations. Again, I don't think the FCC is really all that much in favor of reg by BW. We can send Bruce to DC. He'll talk some smarts into 'em. (HI) 73, John

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 symbols/second)

2007-03-26 Thread John Champa
Guys, Here is my guess...the ARRL would NOW love to do reg by BW, but the FCC isn't buying it. They don't want to get into that level of detail in any enforcement actions. The agency may go along with it for VHF and UHF because the impact is more local, but on HF their ability to enforce (or

RE: [digitalradio] ARRL Offers Alternate Approach to Regulation by Bandwidth

2007-03-25 Thread John Champa
Bruce, Gee, I am starting to sound like Bonnie now! But I think I have heard that before too! (HI) What are you doing here anyway? Aren't you an AMer? BTW, if it is any comfort to you, OFDM is sometimes defined as a form of digital AM, so you should feel right at home (HI). John

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Report of the ARRL Ad Hoc HF Digital Committee Dissenting

2007-03-25 Thread John Champa
Erik, I think you hit the nail on the head... The FCC doesn't buy the approah of reg by BW! At least not for HF. Just my guess. John Original Message Follows From: list email filter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Report of the ARRL Ad Hoc HF Digital Committee Dissenting

2007-03-25 Thread John Champa
@yahoogroups.com, John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Dave's No. 1: Obviously, as he knows, Chris Imlay is a paid employee. He puts in more time than his pay demands, but he is paid. To lay this all on him is wrong, though. I know of 19 people (including me) in addition to Chris and anyone else

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Report of the ARRL Ad Hoc HF Digital Committee Dissenting Recommendation

2007-03-24 Thread John Champa
of the ARRL Ad Hoc HF Digital Committee Dissenting Recommendation Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:51:39 - AA6YQ comments below --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Not the attorney, silly! I had to pay my attorney when I was forced to take legal action

Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 symbols/second)

2007-03-24 Thread John Champa
think the RTTY/CW guys are livid right now ? how many ARRL members will be left after this mess you are proposing get going ? hopefully none . They GAVE you 222 and up but untill you OWN all the bands your kind will not be happy It's the truth and you know it . --- John Champa

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Report of the ARRL Ad Hoc HF Digital Committee Dissenting

2007-03-24 Thread John Champa
know anyway (HI). 73, John K8OCL Original Message Follows From: John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Report of the ARRL Ad Hoc HF Digital Committee Dissenting Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:13:31

RE: [digitalradio] ARRL Offers Alternate Approach to Regulation by Bandwidth

2007-03-24 Thread John Champa
Dave, Oh, that's great Dave!. Thanks a lot, partner. (HI) Not that it's not an excellent proposal, mind you, but the HSMM modes cover BRUCE's personally owned AM Worldwide 6M Calling spot @ 50.4 MHz! I am the destroyer of worlds! (The Hunt for Red October?) So now Bruce will be on constant

Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300 symbols/second)

2007-03-23 Thread John Champa
Bruce, Do you ALWAYS over-react, of is that just for this reflector? ;o) John Original Message Follows From: bruce mallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Tearing Down USA's Data Wall (300

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Report of the ARRL Ad Hoc HF Digital Committee Dissenting Recommendation

2007-03-23 Thread John Champa
, not lowering the bar and making excuses. If there's a faint glow of hope in that material, it Dave K1ZZ's acknowledgement of broad opposition by the amateur radio community to the ARRL' RM-11306 proposal. 73, Dave, AA6YQ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Champa [EMAIL

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread John Champa
OK. I'd be glad to helpif Bruce doesn't mind! (HI) I haven't done a search yet. Does anyone have a copy of the protocol? 73, John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: kd4e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread John Champa
Found this, but there not much activity yet... http://www.eham.net/forums/Digital/3369 Original Message Follows From: kd4e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re:

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread John Champa
, John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought we decided somebody else said that? (HI) Chris Imlay worked pretty hard for us. He was able to get an FCC consensus on encryption being OK for Hams to use when the FCC staff in the SAME office had somewhat different views on the same

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-20 Thread John Champa
Roger! I will await your posting on HFLINK. Original Message Follows From: expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:28:10 -

RE: FW: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-19 Thread John Champa
Hey, knock it off Steve. Who are you to judge how I feel? I have been licensed for almost 50 years and I have seen regs come and go. I do care. I am NOT saying I don't care! What I am saying is don't replace your brain with the rule book. I worked closely the League's legal staff for 4 years

RE: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-19 Thread John Champa
happen with that? 73, KV9U John Champa wrote: Rick, Paul as the CTO was our reporting person. However, he did not come into the picture until the last year. A lot of frustration had built up by then. It was also his recommendation to the Board that the HSMM Working Group

RE: [digitalradio] Gray Areas of USA Ham Radio Regulations and Rules

2007-03-19 Thread John Champa
Dave, You have made some good points about US hams having too many regs. We seem to have this incestuous love affair with regs, or at least seem to think we lack the ability to perform as good operators without them. It has an impact on our performance and perspective, too! Please note that

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-19 Thread John Champa
that a bit too risky and outside of our comfort zone. And that assumes that the individual supports the directions that your group wanted to go. The democratic process works both ways and is intentionally made to be difficult to steer the ship in a new direction. KV9U John Champa wrote: Rick

[digitalradio] Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-19 Thread John Champa
Rick, Those are good points. We must be careful about making cross-cultural comparisons when discussing International regs. We learned that big time in various gun control debates! If we were to compare our radio regs to anyone, it should probably be to Japan, and right off we can see problems

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams

2007-03-19 Thread John Champa
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Getting RFSM2400 Approved for US Hams Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:54:49 - --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I thought you said, Kill all the lawyers, guess that does not include the ARRL legal staff.. Prohibitions

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-18 Thread John Champa
Bruce, that is an extremely offensive posting. I happen to LOVE 6M and have operated the band for almost 50 years. Sorry, you feel the way you do. You are of course, in error once again. The excellent response from John, KD6OZH, clarified that our OFDM testing will not be on the AM calling

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-18 Thread John Champa
Thank you, Bill! I couldn't have written it any better! 6M is a huge band, that even when it is red hot, as we hope it is again in a few years, is very coveted by many businesses, in addition to BPL. The ARRL HSMM Working Group was trying to save 6M, in addition to finding a spot to operate SS.

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-18 Thread John Champa
, Rick, KV9U bruce mallon wrote: This is from the same guys that want to distroy 6 meters with 200 khz wide signals? Nice very nice . --- John Champa mailto:k8ocl%40hotmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rod, I have NEVER heard of any Amateur being fined

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-18 Thread John Champa
majority of hams would strongly oppose here in the U.S. 73, Rick, KV9U bruce mallon wrote: This is from the same guys that want to distroy 6 meters with 200 khz wide signals? Nice very nice . --- John Champa mailto:k8ocl%40hotmail.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Gray Areas of Ham Radio Regulations and Rules

2007-03-18 Thread John Champa
Wilco! You're response has so much class and rationale. Original Message Follows From: expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Gray Areas of Ham Radio Regulations and Rules Date: Sun, 18 Mar

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-18 Thread John Champa
be changing...I think are changing. I think we kicked them in the back side and woke up some of the OFs. John Champa wrote: PS - Rick is correct about one item. Those policy recommendations were part of the reason the ARRL disbanded the HSMM Working Group. They didn't like hearing

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-18 Thread John Champa
Rick, Paul as the CTO was our reporting person. However, he did not come into the picture until the last year. A lot of frustration had built up by then. It was also his recommendation to the Board that the HSMM Working Group be founded. That's why we called him the Father of HSMM. Paul was

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RFSM2400

2007-03-18 Thread John Champa
Rick, I was Ok until that last parargraph and then you fell off the creeen. Have you ever done it? It takes several months to get an STA, and it can easily take 4-5 YEARS to get a reg change. Even getting an FCC interpratation can take months! My suggestion? Just get the protocol posted to a

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread John Champa
Rod, I have NEVER heard of any Amateur being fined by the FCC for experimenting with a new mode...so what serious trouble? Radio experimenting is one of the reasons our service was established! Wouldn't that be just a bit counter-productive to be so heavy handed? I agree with LA4VNA. We have

Re: [digitalradio] legal Mode guidelines

2007-03-17 Thread John Champa
Steve, You just don't get it yet, partner. As long as nobody complains about disruptive behavior, the FCC doesn't really care, nor do they have the manpower, to police anything. IMHO, be considerate of other Hams, don't try out your new mode experiment in the middle of their net frequency, etc.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSM2400 / MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-16 Thread John Champa
Poor Bonnie! We are hitting you from both directions: --some want better weak signal performance at the cost of speed (~HF) --some want more speed at the cost of signal performance (~10M VHF) Original Message Follows From: kv9u [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com

Re: [digitalradio] RFSM2400/MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-16 Thread John Champa
If you want to have a revolution, first you must kill all the lawyers. William Shakespeare Does that include barracks lawyers? Just kidding guys. Keep it light! HI HI 73, John K8OCL Original Message Follows From: Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

RE: [digitalradio] Re: RFSM2400/MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-16 Thread John Champa
Bonnie, If one more so called radio experimenter asks if something is legal, tonight, I am going to go out and get drunk...which I really would rather not do. I am getting too old for such foolishness. HI 73, John, K8OCL PS - I found a store that will ship an ICOM IC-F7000 to my address in

RE: [digitalradio] Re: RSM2400 / MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-16 Thread John Champa
such as attached. Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Champa Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 2:57 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSM2400 / MIL-STD-188-110 Poor Bonnie! We are hitting

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSM2400 / MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-16 Thread John Champa
Rick, Now that is some interesting research! More please. Thanks, John K8OCL Original Message Follows From: kv9u [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSM2400 / MIL-STD-188-110 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007

RE: [digitalradio] RFSM2400/MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-15 Thread John Champa
Unless you are in MARS... John, K8OCL Original Message Follows From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] RFSM2400/MIL-STD-188-110 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:29:44 -0400 Just a reminder to the USA

RE: [digitalradio] Re: RFSM2400/MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-15 Thread John Champa
Haven't the HF-LINK folks been using this mode for over 5 years? John. K8OCL Original Message Follows From: Bill McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: RFSM2400/MIL-STD-188-110 Date: Fri, 16 Mar

RE: [digitalradio] Re: RSM2400 / MIL-STD-188-110

2007-03-15 Thread John Champa
Bonnie, Have you ever used HF-CPSHF? John Original Message Follows From: expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: RSM2400 / MIL-STD-188-110 Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:27:04 - John K8OCL

RE: [digitalradio] [Fwd: [tapr-announce] HPSDR Janus and Ozy Board Production An

2007-02-13 Thread John Champa
Bob, I re-posted this on the HSMM list too ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Thanks and good luck! John - K8OCL

Re: [digitalradio] US Hams Codeless Feb 23

2007-01-19 Thread John Champa
Danny, Yes, I have always thought that was a strange statement, too! My experience would cause me to write something more like: ...eliminates an unnecessary regulatory burden that keeps many otherwise technically well qualified individuals from enjoying the benefits of Amateur Radio. After

Re: [digitalradio] US Hams Codeless Feb 23

2007-01-19 Thread John Champa
I don't think psychological testing would be required to empty the 75M band. I am convinced that all it would take is a tightly controlled reading test! They seem to enjoy being considered red neck southern dumb. (HI) I have never really wanted to operate CW before, but for some strange reason

Re: [digitalradio] US Hams Codeless Feb 23

2007-01-19 Thread John Champa
Chuck, Guess I am no longer fully qualified as a Ham (HI). What is a 10-36? Tnx, John K8OCL Original Message Follows From: Chuck Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] US Hams Codeless Feb 23 Date:

Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software?

2007-01-12 Thread John Champa
Well stated, John! John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Movement toward open digital software? Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 00:13:52 -0600 I First of all ,

RE: [digitalradio] Coaxial Antenna System - Patent 7,151,497

2007-01-06 Thread John Champa
Congratulations on your new patent approval, Bonnie. I know what a long process that is! Original Message Follows From: expeditionradio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Coaxial Antenna System - Patent

[digitalradio] Strange

2006-12-20 Thread John Champa
UPS delivered my new IC-2200 2M FM xcvr today! ~$160 The tiny little UT-118 unit for D-Star is match box size!~$200 Doesn't seem right! Then I remembered the usual radio rule of thumb: The smaller the package, the more it costs! Think I will pretend the $20 rebate is on the tiny package.

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New ARRL Petition

2006-12-15 Thread John Champa
Only from the League's lawyer, silly. That's as good as it gets. Anyway, does anyone really want a response directly from the FCC, for Cat's sake?! Not I, dear sir. Especially after their recent Uni-Bus or whatever that crash was (HI). Here is the League's strategy: Ask them for

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New ARRL Petition

2006-12-15 Thread John Champa
Mark, I think you might be correct! TELL...I write again**TELL** the FCC what you want down to the last detail. If they don't respond in a reasonable period (90 days?), well, then ya got it! (HI) It's called management by exception, I think. Although the League, to their credit, did

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New ARRL Petition

2006-12-15 Thread John Champa
You would normally be correct. However, again, the FCC does not give a %$# about Ham Radio! That includes the ARRL and all the celebrities you can find. Original Message Follows From: kd4e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject:

RE: [digitalradio] Re: New ARRL Petition

2006-12-14 Thread John Champa
Yes, we asked for 200 kHz on 6M. They proposed only 100 kHz. (HI) Like Walt wrote, it's all relative. John K8OCL Original Message Follows From: jgorman01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New ARRL

Re: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

2006-12-05 Thread John Champa
meters, even MFSK16 and DominoEX have their limits, and that is under fairly good conditions in the winter period of the northern hemisphere with low QRN. Low power, modest antennas, still make digital modes a challenge at times with normal keyboard speeds. 73, Rick, KV9U John Champa wrote

RE: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

2006-12-05 Thread John Champa
Remember the old story about the lone lawyer living in a small town? He was nearly starving to death for lack of business. Then another lawyer moved to the little town, and then they both prospered (HI). JJC Original Message Follows From: Michael Hatzakis Jr MD [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14075 , various modes.

2006-12-04 Thread John Champa
Now that post only took a few minutes! Go figure. Original Message Follows From: John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] QRV 14075 , various modes. Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 04:10:22 -0500 Me too

[digitalradio] The Hinternet

2006-12-02 Thread John Champa
Rod Mitchell, KL1Y, has written an article for QEX to appear in a Spring 2007 issue. In it he describes how he made a data link from his wireless laptop using 802.11 modulation to HF. I forwarded some of the topics we have been discussing on this reflector, and here is his response: Hi John,

RE: [digitalradio] Re: CPU performance ?

2006-11-28 Thread John Champa
Correct me, if I am wrong, but one does not have to change the monitor to get better resolution, right? Can't you simply change the video card in the PC? That would be a lot less expensive! John, K8OCL Original Message Follows From: cesco12342000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

RE: [digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques

2006-10-27 Thread John Champa
. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed, Nobody said it is available now, only that a solution is possible. Bob even pointed out that any solution may be too expensive anyway. If we can pause for a minute and stop thinking in strictly

RE: [digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques

2006-10-27 Thread John Champa
All, Somebody, not just Ed (HI), wrote to me off-list about this posting. I reject my former positon as being simplistic and in error. Carry on ARRL! 73, John - K8OCL From: John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], digitalradio

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Don't ignore proposals/local HF net successes

2006-10-26 Thread John Champa
have any problem critizing Ed Hare and by fiat, the ARRL on their position on BPL interference mitigation. Seems to me that what's good for the goose is good for the gander! Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Champa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everybody...please stop griping about

Re: [digitalradio] local HF net successes

2006-10-26 Thread John Champa
Antenna are important here, guys! Are you using NVIS antennas, e.g., a dipole NMT 1/4 wave high, etc. John - K8OCL From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] local HF net successes Date: Tue, 24 Oct

RE: [digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques

2006-10-25 Thread John Champa
Ed, Nobody said it is available now, only that a solution is possible. Bob even pointed out that any solution may be too expensive anyway. If we can pause for a minute and stop thinking in strictly analog terms, then it is clear a solution is possible. For example, I work in a virtual sea

RE: [digitalradio] QEX ?

2006-10-25 Thread John Champa
Bruce, Who did you say SMIRK was again? Just kidding! Yes, we are using an established 6M calling frequency for a TEST. Don't you do that sometimes too? Besides, it's the only portion of the band that is classified as ALL MODE. Nobody uses Ancient Modulation (AM) anymore anyway, right?

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