Miroslav,
Try going to:
http://www.tapr.org/pr_whypacketradio.html
to see if it meets your needs.
Rick W3BI
--- On Sat, 7/5/08, Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and
/5/08, Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Miroslav Skoric (YT7MPB) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 11:16 AM
expeditionradio
expeditionradio wrote:
> A blatant example was what we saw with abolition of morse testing. If
> the old morse test wasn't enough to scare away the first generation of
> computer-raised youngsters, then the next generation of web kids was
> turned off by the vitriol spewed by those who fought to k
twice quicker than Olivia and almost as sensitive. It
is
> > built on
> > > the same principle as Olivia but with different parameters and a
> > reduced set
> > > of characters.
> > >
> > > It is present at least on Mixw and Multipsk
> > >
>
Contestia & RTTYM are implemented in PocketDigi also.
73, Vojtech OK1IAK, AB2ZA
> >
> > It is present at least on Mixw and Multipsk
> >
> > 73
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -
> > From: "Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent
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Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
Hello Dick,
Mixw has a "Contestia+RTTYM" DLL. The second mode (RTTYM) is not very
interesting has you have the same sort of problem as with RTTY (you can
switch from one set to another of characters and lo
tegered in Mixw.
73
Patrick
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From: "kc4cop996" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 4:12 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
> Patrick:
>
> Please advise the version of MixW that has "
and a
reduced set
> of characters.
>
> It is present at least on Mixw and Multipsk
>
> 73
> Patrick
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:35 PM
> Subject: [digital
esent at least on Mixw and Multipsk
>
> 73
> Patrick
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:35 PM
> Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
>
>
>
MFSK16 is available as freeware on both MMVARI and Stream.
It's a little finicky to tune on Stream (the orignial software for the mode),
but easy using MMVARI.
As for its usefulness under poor conditions, a station in Reno and I used it to
extend the useful like of a sked the other evening by a
Benson wrote:
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave AA6YQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On what basis do you claim that Olivia, DominoEX, and MFSK are
"better" than
PSK for ragchewing? Olivia is slow, and MFSK is difficult to tune.
I could care less about "mode envy" but I
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, tailfeathers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: tailfeathers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 4:03 PM
> PSK softwar
Lindecker
*Sent:* Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:06 PM
*To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
Hello all,
Just to say that aside to Olivia, you have a mode which name is
Contestia,
which is twice quicker than Olivia and almost as sensitive
Yes, Gary,
Most of the digital software is freeware.
Then only ones I can think of that cost money are the ones from Russia:
RFSM8000 that uses the MIL-STD 188-110A single tone modem (though not
legal here in the U.S. on the HF RTTY/Data portions). May be OK for
pictures and fax in the phone/i
Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:35 AM
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com>, "Dave AA6YQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
Hello all,
Just to say that aside to Olivia, you have a mode which name is Contestia,
which is twice quicker than Olivia and almost as sensitive. It is built on
the same principle as Olivia but with different
Multipsk
73
Patrick
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From: "Benson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 3:35 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave AA6YQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
John,
You should have been in a comm center with anywhere from 3 to 40 running at
the same time! Turn on the AC!!
73 Buddy WB4M
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From: ""John Becker, WØJAB"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [
ED]
Behalf Of Benson
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:35 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave AA6YQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On what basis do you claim that Olivia,
Yes indeed. And that noise and smell lives on in this shack...
You should be here sometime when I have all 3 running at once.
What a wonderful sound !
At 07:34 AM 7/3/2008, you wrote:
>HI John,
>
>I was in the USAF from 1968-1972, and we used the old oilers with punched
>tape, I think it was a
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:34 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
HI John,
I was in the USAF from 1968-1972, and we used the old oilers with punched
tape, I think it was a model 15? Nothing like the smell and noise of the
old
I was in the USAF from 1968 to 1972 but did not work in communications
(more along the lines of security, HI). It was not until a few years
after I was relicensed in 1980 that I got involved with digital modes
buying a Model 15 and making a simple TU promoted by the ARRL as a state
of the art T
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Dave AA6YQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On what basis do you claim that Olivia, DominoEX, and MFSK are
"better" than
> PSK for ragchewing? Olivia is slow, and MFSK is difficult to tune.
I could care less about "mode envy" but I will say that I enjoy both
Ol
HI John,
I was in the USAF from 1968-1972, and we used the old oilers with punched
tape, I think it was a model 15? Nothing like the smell and noise of the
old clunkers.
73 Buddy WB4M
> Interesting statement.
>
> Not to long ago I was at a meeting of a big group of hams.
> The subject came u
02, 2008 7:42 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
garylinnrobinson wrote:
> If most PSK operators are interested in rag chewing -they need to move
> on to a better digital mode. PSK and RTTY are the two worst modes
> available
2008 5:21 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
If most PSK operators are interested in rag chewing -they need to move
on to a better digital mode. PSK and RTTY are the two worst modes
available. And that's the problem. Too many peo
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "John Becker, WØJAB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Not to long ago I was at a meeting of a big group of hams.
> The subject came up about RTTY of who was using what program.
> I was listening to all when I was ask what I use. My answer opened
> many eyes whe
At 04:21 PM 7/2/2008, you wrote in part:
> And still PSK and RTTY reign as the popular soundcard modes. Geeesh!
Interesting statement.
Not to long ago I was at a meeting of a big group of hams.
The subject came up about RTTY of who was using what program.
I was listening to all when I was ask wh
garylinnrobinson wrote:
> If most PSK operators are interested in rag chewing -they need to move
> on to a better digital mode. PSK and RTTY are the two worst modes
> available. And that's the problem. Too many people, groups, and
> leaders in the Ham Community promoting OLD and less than effectiv
If most PSK operators are interested in rag chewing -they need to move
on to a better digital mode. PSK and RTTY are the two worst modes
available. And that's the problem. Too many people, groups, and
leaders in the Ham Community promoting OLD and less than effective
modes of communication.
I cam
One use of split frequency operation is to spread a DX station's
callers out over a range of frequencies that does not include the DX
station's frequency. This enables the DX station to more rapidly work
callers (because they don't overlap each other as much, and because
the DX station's transm
Most PSK operators are interested in rag-chewing rather than DXing,
which does make it difficult for a DX station to achieve a reasonable
rate in PSK. When operating from a DX location, I operate PSK to take a
break between CW and RTTY pileups.
The ability to decode many independent transmissio
Bill Lovell wrote:
>
>
> I think the basic problem is that fewer than 10% of PSK31 operators have
> ever bothered to learn how to set up split operation. One more reason
> that the mode is great for casual DXing, but next to useless for serious
> DX work.
>
> 73,
> Bill
>
I have never tried
I think the basic problem is that fewer than 10% of PSK31 operators have ever
bothered to learn how to set up split operation. One more reason that the mode
is great for casual DXing, but next to useless for serious DX work.
73,
Bill
As usual, Dave puts the correct perspective to advancing technology. Ask
yourself why others would attack what many radio amateurs enjoy doing
and even go so far as to use extreme name calling and personal attacks
of hams don't happen to support their vision or beliefs of what should
be a succe
21, 2008 1:48 PM
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
>
> >>>AA6YQ comments below
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com,
> "expeditionradio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>
>>>AA6YQ comments below
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com,
"expeditionradio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dave, AA6YQ wrote,
>> The amateur radio's community rapidly adopted PSK31
>> once panoramic reception on soundcard-equipped
>> PCs became available.
>> When the dogs don't like the d
ogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of expeditionradio
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:12 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New Hams and New Digital Technology
> Dave, AA6YQ wrote,
> The amateur radio's community rapidly adopted PSK31
> once p
> Dave, AA6YQ wrote,
> The amateur radio's community rapidly adopted PSK31
> once panoramic reception on soundcard-equipped
> PCs became available.
>
> When the dogs don't like the dogfood, its a mistake
> to blame the dogs...
Dave,
A more accurate "ham radio dogfood" analogy would go like
The amateur radio's community rapidly adopted PSK31 once panoramic
reception on soundcard-equipped PCs became available.
Given this rapid transition, it seems unlikley that the amateur
community then shifted gears en amsse and refused to consider all
subsequent advances in digital mode technol
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