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It is true when I served as
> No one is selling the NGOs anything, they are NOT communications
> ignorant.
> But one thing for sure, even though we have a large number of amateur
> radio
> operators volunteering for disaster communications, the number is less
> than
> 15% of the number needed. Walt
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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:36:33 -0800
It is an industry that creates it own demand and, thereby, supply. MH
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, etc. That is RADIO to them...not this stange stuff we do with 250
foot long wires on 160M.
73, John
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If the folks working on getting nerve responses to control artificial
limbs really wanted to make some money they would be working on how to
interface a cell phone keyboard via bluetooth directly to nerve
conne
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--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA"
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If the folks working on getting nerve responses to control artificial
limbs really wanted to make some money they would be working on how to
interface a cell phone keyboard via bluetooth directly to nerve
connections. My son would be standing in line to have it transplanted
tommorrow if he could t
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> Danny,
>
> Not just for text messagesthink multimedia
riday, December 01, 2006 9:36 PM
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms
>
>> If the NGO's don't have the resources to use the frequencies they
>> currently have assigned, where would the resources come fr
John and all,
Multimedia on HF is just not going to ever happen other than the
occasional still picture that we already do now. It is difficult enough
now to even get text messages under typical keyboard speed of around 40
+ wpm.
Based upon my experience, digital motion images are difficult en
Please see below... Walt/K5YFW
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Your argument
led any longer it
seems.
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Even if we could do multimedia at a decent speed on HF kids wouldn't
be interested
;snail's-paced approach" overall just doesn't cut it any
more.
IMHO of course....
Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN
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27;t understand a phone that doesn't take pics, and soon has
an MP3
> player built-in too (HI).
>
> 73, John - K8OCL
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>
>
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Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 21:37:59 -0500
I still dont understand why everyone seems to think we need multi gigibit
bandwidth to allow people to tal
use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.
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> I will also ask the question again:
>
> If we
Bill and all,
The thing is that I really don't think that we would actually use high
speed digital data for everyday use. Right now we can use Pactor modes
for about the fastest current modes on our frequencies and it is rarely
done except for connecting to an e-mail server. It is not just the
2006 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms
The question was what would we send with Highspeed that we don't now?
Probably nothing, but it would be nice to do so.
I have been watching this debate for some time, and readily admit that I
do
Advanced Digital HF Data Comms
Yes! :(
Erik
KI4HMS/7
John Bradley wrote:
>
> Are lawyers and lobbyists a growth industry?
>
> John
> VE5MU
>
Yes! :(
Erik
KI4HMS/7
John Bradley wrote:
>
> Are lawyers and lobbyists a growth industry?
>
> John
> VE5MU
>
The question was what would we send with Highspeed that we don't now?
Probably nothing, but it would be nice to do so.
I have been watching this debate for some time, and readily admit that I
don't understand this headlong rush into more regulations, on top of what to me
would be an onero
> I will also ask the question again:
>
> If we had the ability to send high speed digital data on HF, what would
> we be sending to each other that we don't do now?
Anything. Everything. There's no 'technical' reason we don't do
everything on HF. Discussion groups like this, pictures, favo
lready out of sync with the
>rest of the world, again IMHO for whatever that's worth.
>
>Howard W6IDS
>Richmond, IN
>
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W6IDS
Richmond, IN
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Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:35 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms
Your argument isn't logical.
If the NGO's don't have the resources to use t
Your argument isn't logical.
If the NGO's don't have the resources to use the frequencies they
currently have assigned, where would the resources come from to allow
them to use amateur service frequencies reassigned to the land
fixed/mobile service? How would they convince the FCC to allocate and
7:06 PM
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Subject: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms
Let me paraphrase N7DC's comment. The local, state, and federal
governments and NGO's want our help - then they should provide the
equipment and the bandwidth for its use- and that
Let me paraphrase N7DC's comment. The local, state, and federal
governments and NGO's want our help - then they should provide the
equipment and the bandwidth for its use- and that bandwidth is out
there, assigned to agencies and NGO's now. I've checked and both the
Red Cross and Salvation Army h
At 10:45 PM 11/29/06, cesco12342000 wrote:
> > Near the equator,
> > there is little frequency spread (< 4 Hz), but it is larger
> > in near-polar paths and can be very large (up to 40 Hz)
> > under disturbed conditions.
>
>A question: where does the frequency spread come from ?
>Is this a doppler
the poles. My information comes
from measurements summarized in published papers.
73,
John
KD6OZH
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From: cesco12342000
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Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 03:45 UTC
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF
> Near the equator,
> there is little frequency spread (< 4 Hz), but it is larger
> in near-polar paths and can be very large (up to 40 Hz)
> under disturbed conditions.
A question: where does the frequency spread come from ?
Is this a doppler effect of a moving ionosphere, or are
there other c
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